Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-17 Thread Edna Taylor

Rascal has not gained a lot of weight back but he did gain a little and is 
doing well.  Sorry to hear about Cutie Pie and Vinney :( We take our cats to 
Gulf Coast Veterinary Specialists when they need specialized treatment AND what 
many people do not know about is the Care Credit card.  It is a medical credit 
card that can be used both for animals and people :)  Anything over $1,000 is 
one year to 18 months no interest, $500 and under is six months no interest.  
Best credit card we have.
 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 23:14:16 -0700
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

Long time ago, before the radiation therapy for hyperthyroidism came here from 
Houston, one of my tiny calicos began having thyroid issues, ate a lot, lost 
weight, tested and had it.  At that time, they were still doing surgery.  I 
went to a very expensive cat specialist who I will not name because he treated 
me like dinosaurs used to treat women, like I did not have a brain.  However, 
he was an excellent surgeon and Cutie Pie lived several more years without 
losing another ounce of weight.  She didn't gain much either but she had always 
been a slim cat.  She passed of old age.  

There is also the transdermal treatment with the same meds as the pill has.  I 
was very unsuccessful with treating Vinney that way.  He was not a candidate 
for radiation therapy because of the money involved
 and also because he lost weight so rapidly that he became weakened and the vet 
said that since he was over 15 years old, the treatment would not extend his 
life or quality of life much.  Vinney passed away two years ago.

 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors too!


From: Edna Taylor 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 6:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
   




We had one cat with hyperthyroidism and we did the one time iodine treatment, 
brought him home 4 days later and he has been great ever since.  We did not 
want to force pills down his gullet twice a day for the rest of his life.  Plus 
there was the cost factor, $1,000 a year for the rest of his life or one time 
$1,675 treatment.  We opted for the one time treatment.
 
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:31:49 -0500
> From: dlg...@windstream.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
> 
> I had 2 cats with hyper thyroid.  Shallie i took to Missou at Columbia and 
> had to leave her there for 3 weeks because she was radioactive.  Convinced 
> them to let me bring her home early after I agreed to keep her seperate for 
> the others and dispose of her litter safely.  She was on Tapazole, but it did 
> not do
 much good as she kept spitting them out when I was not looking.  I kept 
finding little white pills all over.  Second was her brother 1 year later.  I 
decided not to pursue treatment considering results with Shallie.  She lost 
much of her hair, never was able to ut on wieight and every time she sneezed, 
it was blood.  Like the meds were a blood thinner.  She was miserable and I did 
not want to ut tigger thru that.
> 
> 
>  Natalie  wrote: 
> > BTW – Re :HYPERTHYROIDISM – my vet told me that RadioCat has a 4-month, ½
> > price special for radioiodine treatments, starting Nov. 1 – performed at
> > area veterinary clinics on East Coast, check with them if it’s going on in
> > other areas.  I’ve had bad experiences with Tapazole/Methimazole….and this
> > would be a lot cheaper in the long run!  Have had 3 cats done, and 2 more
> > are getting
 it done by RadioCat (www.RadioCat.com ) at a super price.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > My new email address is:atia@gmail.com
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
> > Evans
> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:58 AM
> > To: felvtalk
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Costco's Kirkland is excellent.  Unfortunately, it just went up in price a
> > dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99.  It was about $17.59 a couple of
> > weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality
> > cat food.  I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were
> > losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away
> > from the ACO's
 who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats.
> > Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place.
> > Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems.  I finally have it
> > under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well
> > known in the rescue community. I got

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-16 Thread Lee Evans
Long time ago, before the radiation therapy for hyperthyroidism came here from 
Houston, one of my tiny calicos began having thyroid issues, ate a lot, lost 
weight, tested and had it.  At that time, they were still doing surgery.  I 
went to a very expensive cat specialist who I will not name because he treated 
me like dinosaurs used to treat women, like I did not have a brain.  However, 
he was an excellent surgeon and Cutie Pie lived several more years without 
losing another ounce of weight.  She didn't gain much either but she had always 
been a slim cat.  She passed of old age.  

There is also the transdermal treatment with the same meds as the pill has.  I 
was very unsuccessful with treating Vinney that way.  He was not a candidate 
for radiation therapy because of the money involved and also because he lost 
weight so rapidly that he became weakened and the vet said that since he was 
over 15 years old, the treatment would not extend his life or quality of life 
much.  Vinney passed away two years ago.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Edna Taylor 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
 

 
We had one cat with hyperthyroidism and we did the one time iodine treatment, 
brought him home 4 days later and he has been great ever since.  We did not 
want to force pills down his gullet twice a day for the rest of his life.  Plus 
there was the cost factor, $1,000 a year for the rest of his life or one time 
$1,675 treatment.  We opted for the one time treatment.
 

> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:31:49 -0500
> From: dlg...@windstream.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
> 
> I had 2 cats with hyper thyroid.  Shallie i took to Missou at Columbia and 
> had to leave her there for 3 weeks because she was radioactive.  Convinced 
> them to let me bring her home early after I agreed to keep her seperate for 
> the others and dispose of her litter safely.  She was on Tapazole, but it did 
> not do much good as she kept spitting them out when I was not looking.  I 
> kept finding little white pills all over.  Second was her brother 1 year 
> later.  I decided not to pursue treatment considering results with Shallie.  
> She lost much of her hair, never was able to ut on wieight and every time she 
> sneezed, it was blood.  Like the meds were a blood thinner.  She was 
> miserable and I did not want to ut tigger thru that.
> 
> 
>  Natalie  wrote: 
> > BTW – Re :HYPERTHYROIDISM – my vet told me that RadioCat has a 4-month, ½
> > price special for radioiodine treatments, starting Nov. 1 – performed at
> > area veterinary clinics on East Coast, check with them if it’s going on in
> > other areas.  I’ve had bad experiences with Tapazole/Methimazole….and this
> > would be a lot cheaper in the long run!  Have had 3 cats done, and 2 more
> > are getting it done by RadioCat (www.RadioCat.com ) at a super price.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > My new email address is:atia@gmail.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
> > Evans
> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:58 AM
> > To: felvtalk
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Costco's Kirkland is excellent.  Unfortunately, it just went up in price a
> > dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99.  It was about $17.59 a couple of
> > weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality
> > cat food.  I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were
> > losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away
> > from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats.
> > Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place.
> > Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems.  I finally have it
> > under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well
> > known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her
> > organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed
> > on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about
> > 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor.  I think it was all due to the
> > stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway,  to straighten
> > out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest
> > fat content of any of the dry foods.  Several months and several bags of
> > Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald n

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-15 Thread Edna Taylor

We had one cat with hyperthyroidism and we did the one time iodine treatment, 
brought him home 4 days later and he has been great ever since.  We did not 
want to force pills down his gullet twice a day for the rest of his life.  Plus 
there was the cost factor, $1,000 a year for the rest of his life or one time 
$1,675 treatment.  We opted for the one time treatment.
 > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:31:49 -0500
> From: dlg...@windstream.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
> 
> I had 2 cats with hyper thyroid.  Shallie i took to Missou at Columbia and 
> had to leave her there for 3 weeks because she was radioactive.  Convinced 
> them to let me bring her home early after I agreed to keep her seperate for 
> the others and dispose of her litter safely.  She was on Tapazole, but it did 
> not do much good as she kept spitting them out when I was not looking.  I 
> kept finding little white pills all over.  Second was her brother 1 year 
> later.  I decided not to pursue treatment considering results with Shallie.  
> She lost much of her hair, never was able to ut on wieight and every time she 
> sneezed, it was blood.  Like the meds were a blood thinner.  She was 
> miserable and I did not want to ut tigger thru that.
> 
> 
>  Natalie  wrote: 
> > BTW – Re :HYPERTHYROIDISM – my vet told me that RadioCat has a 4-month, ½
> > price special for radioiodine treatments, starting Nov. 1 – performed at
> > area veterinary clinics on East Coast, check with them if it’s going on in
> > other areas.  I’ve had bad experiences with Tapazole/Methimazole….and this
> > would be a lot cheaper in the long run!  Have had 3 cats done, and 2 more
> > are getting it done by RadioCat (www.RadioCat.com ) at a super price.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > My new email address is:atia@gmail.com
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
> > Evans
> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:58 AM
> > To: felvtalk
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Costco's Kirkland is excellent.  Unfortunately, it just went up in price a
> > dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99.  It was about $17.59 a couple of
> > weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality
> > cat food.  I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were
> > losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away
> > from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats.
> > Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place.
> > Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems.  I finally have it
> > under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well
> > known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her
> > organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed
> > on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about
> > 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor.  I think it was all due to the
> > stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway,  to straighten
> > out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest
> > fat content of any of the dry foods.  Several months and several bags of
> > Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald now has a really nice
> > coat (long fur girl, house feral) and the scabs on her skin are gone.  She
> > has put on at least a pound, if not two.  The other cats are gaining weight,
> > all except one.  He needs a thyroid profile when I get some money.  But he's
> > holding his own also.  Of course, my fat cats are getting fatter by the
> > minute.  But on the whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland.  I also use Paws
> > and Claws, which is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite
> > a bargain although not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds.  I
> > only use canned for the cat who has stomatitis.  Since Kirkland is smaller
> > pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble.  I have a
> > membership at Costco through my animal rights organization.  There are three
> > of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee each year.  We are
> > tax exempt,  which helps also with the price.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> > neighbors too!
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> > neighbors too!
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-15 Thread dlgegg
I had 2 cats with hyper thyroid.  Shallie i took to Missou at Columbia and had 
to leave her there for 3 weeks because she was radioactive.  Convinced them to 
let me bring her home early after I agreed to keep her seperate for the others 
and dispose of her litter safely.  She was on Tapazole, but it did not do much 
good as she kept spitting them out when I was not looking.  I kept finding 
little white pills all over.  Second was her brother 1 year later.  I decided 
not to pursue treatment considering results with Shallie.  She lost much of her 
hair, never was able to ut on wieight and every time she sneezed, it was blood. 
 Like the meds were a blood thinner.  She was miserable and I did not want to 
ut tigger thru that.


 Natalie  wrote: 
> BTW – Re :HYPERTHYROIDISM – my vet told me that RadioCat has a 4-month, ½
> price special for radioiodine treatments, starting Nov. 1 – performed at
> area veterinary clinics on East Coast, check with them if it’s going on in
> other areas.  I’ve had bad experiences with Tapazole/Methimazole….and this
> would be a lot cheaper in the long run!  Have had 3 cats done, and 2 more
> are getting it done by RadioCat (www.RadioCat.com ) at a super price.
> 
>  
> 
> My new email address is:atia@gmail.com
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
> Evans
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:58 AM
> To: felvtalk
> Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
> 
>  
> 
> Costco's Kirkland is excellent.  Unfortunately, it just went up in price a
> dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99.  It was about $17.59 a couple of
> weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality
> cat food.  I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were
> losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away
> from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats.
> Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place.
> Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems.  I finally have it
> under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well
> known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her
> organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed
> on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about
> 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor.  I think it was all due to the
> stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway,  to straighten
> out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest
> fat content of any of the dry foods.  Several months and several bags of
> Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald now has a really nice
> coat (long fur girl, house feral) and the scabs on her skin are gone.  She
> has put on at least a pound, if not two.  The other cats are gaining weight,
> all except one.  He needs a thyroid profile when I get some money.  But he's
> holding his own also.  Of course, my fat cats are getting fatter by the
> minute.  But on the whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland.  I also use Paws
> and Claws, which is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite
> a bargain although not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds.  I
> only use canned for the cat who has stomatitis.  Since Kirkland is smaller
> pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble.  I have a
> membership at Costco through my animal rights organization.  There are three
> of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee each year.  We are
> tax exempt,  which helps also with the price.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
> 


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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-15 Thread dlgegg

Every time you hear about a recall, it involves a company in Georgia that does 
foods for almost every brand of cat and dog food.  i got hung up in the one 
with the filler that caused kidney and liver damage.  My guys didn't get hurt, 
but I had to test to be sure they were safe and they were on Hill's Science 
Diet at the time.  You know the SAFE food.  That and the fact that everyoe 
seems to put corn, wheat and soy + other things in their food and I started 
looking for something better.  On Blud Bufalo now.  We expecially like DUCK.  
Now it is treats that the FDA can't figure out what is wrong with the treats so 
they have not issued a recall.  Pretty soon we will be forced to make our own 
if we want safe, quality food.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> That was Diamond brand cat food, from a manufacturer on the East Coast - I 
> think in Georgia.  Kirkland purple bag cat food made for Costco was not 
> involved.  The Diamond cat food that was involved had salmonella.


 
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too!





 From: Beth 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
 
They also had q recall not to long ago. I don't remember what happened but I 
know somranimalsgot very sick, including a friend of mine's cats. But that can 
happen with any brand esp if they are buying ingredients from other suppliers.

Lee Evans  wrote:

>Costco's Kirkland is excellent.  Unfortunately, it just went up in price a 
>dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99.  It was about $17.59 a couple of 
>weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good 
>quality cat food.  I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they 
>were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal 
>County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me 
>citations for too many cats.  Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a 
>known to an unknown place.  Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, 
>behavior problems.  I finally have it under control thanks to a friend 
>who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got 
>several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd 
>nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from 
>cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who 
>was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor.  I think it was 
>all due to the stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. 
>Anyway,  to straighten out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland 
>because it has the highest fat content of any of the dry foods.  
>Several months and several bags of Kirkland later, one of my cats who 
>was almost bald now has a really nice coat (long fur girl, house feral) 
>and the scabs on her skin are gone.  She has put on at least a pound, if not 
>two.  The other cats are gaining weight, all except one.  He needs a thyroid 
>profile when I get some money.  But he's holding his own also.  Of course, my 
>fat cats are getting fatter by the minute.  But on the 
>whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland.  I also use Paws and Claws, which 
>is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite a bargain although 
>not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds.  I only 
>use canned for the cat who has stomatitis.  Since Kirkland is smaller 
>pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble.  I 
>have a membership at Costco through my animal rights organization.  
>There are three of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee 
>each year.  We are tax exempt,  which helps also with the price.
>
>
> 
>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>neighbors too!
>
>
>
>
> 
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>neighbors too!
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-15 Thread Lee Evans
That was Diamond brand cat food, from a manufacturer on the East Coast - I 
think in Georgia.  Kirkland purple bag cat food made for Costco was not 
involved.  The Diamond cat food that was involved had salmonella.


 
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 From: Beth 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
 
They also had q recall not to long ago. I don't remember what happened but I 
know somranimalsgot very sick, including a friend of mine's cats. But that can 
happen with any brand esp if they are buying ingredients from other suppliers.

Lee Evans  wrote:

>Costco's Kirkland is excellent.  Unfortunately, it just went up in price a 
>dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99.  It was about $17.59 a couple of 
>weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good 
>quality cat food.  I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they 
>were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal 
>County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me 
>citations for too many cats.  Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a 
>known to an unknown place.  Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, 
>behavior problems.  I finally have it under control thanks to a friend 
>who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got 
>several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd 
>nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from 
>cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who 
>was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor.  I think it was 
>all due to the stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. 
>Anyway,  to straighten out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland 
>because it has the highest fat content of any of the dry foods.  
>Several months and several bags of Kirkland later, one of my cats who 
>was almost bald now has a really nice coat (long fur girl, house feral) 
>and the scabs on her skin are gone.  She has put on at least a pound, if not 
>two.  The other cats are gaining weight, all except one.  He needs a thyroid 
>profile when I get some money.  But he's holding his own also.  Of course, my 
>fat cats are getting fatter by the minute.  But on the 
>whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland.  I also use Paws and Claws, which 
>is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite a bargain although 
>not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds.  I only 
>use canned for the cat who has stomatitis.  Since Kirkland is smaller 
>pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble.  I 
>have a membership at Costco through my animal rights organization.  
>There are three of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee 
>each year.  We are tax exempt,  which helps also with the price.
>
>
> 
>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>neighbors too!
>
>
>
>
> 
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>neighbors too!
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-15 Thread Natalie
BTW – Re :HYPERTHYROIDISM – my vet told me that RadioCat has a 4-month, ½
price special for radioiodine treatments, starting Nov. 1 – performed at
area veterinary clinics on East Coast, check with them if it’s going on in
other areas.  I’ve had bad experiences with Tapazole/Methimazole….and this
would be a lot cheaper in the long run!  Have had 3 cats done, and 2 more
are getting it done by RadioCat (www.RadioCat.com ) at a super price.

 

My new email address is:atia@gmail.com

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:58 AM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

 

Costco's Kirkland is excellent.  Unfortunately, it just went up in price a
dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99.  It was about $17.59 a couple of
weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good quality
cat food.  I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they were
losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal County to get away
from the ACO's who were constantly giving me citations for too many cats.
Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a known to an unknown place.
Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, behavior problems.  I finally have it
under control thanks to a friend who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well
known in the rescue community. I got several adoptions through her
organization which culled the herd nicely. A couple of my older cats passed
on from kidney failure, one from cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who was about
13) and one from heart disease and a tumor.  I think it was all due to the
stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. Anyway,  to straighten
out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland because it has the highest
fat content of any of the dry foods.  Several months and several bags of
Kirkland later, one of my cats who was almost bald now has a really nice
coat (long fur girl, house feral) and the scabs on her skin are gone.  She
has put on at least a pound, if not two.  The other cats are gaining weight,
all except one.  He needs a thyroid profile when I get some money.  But he's
holding his own also.  Of course, my fat cats are getting fatter by the
minute.  But on the whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland.  I also use Paws
and Claws, which is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite
a bargain although not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds.  I
only use canned for the cat who has stomatitis.  Since Kirkland is smaller
pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble.  I have a
membership at Costco through my animal rights organization.  There are three
of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee each year.  We are
tax exempt,  which helps also with the price.

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-15 Thread Beth
They also had q recall not to long ago. I don't remember what happened but I 
know somranimalsgot very sick, including a friend of mine's cats. But that can 
happen with any brand esp if they are buying ingredients from other suppliers.

Lee Evans  wrote:

>Costco's Kirkland is excellent.  Unfortunately, it just went up in price a 
>dollar and fifty cents more to $18.99.  It was about $17.59 a couple of 
>weeks ago but it's still the best deal around for 25 pounds of good 
>quality cat food.  I began feeding it again to my inside rescues because they 
>were losing weight after we moved out of San Antonio to Comal 
>County to get away from the ACO's who were constantly giving me 
>citations for too many cats.  Anyway, cats are not good with moving from a 
>known to an unknown place.  Lots of stress, fur loss, weight loss, 
>behavior problems.  I finally have it under control thanks to a friend 
>who has her own 501 c 3 and is quite well known in the rescue community. I got 
>several adoptions through her organization which culled the herd 
>nicely. A couple of my older cats passed on from kidney failure, one from 
>cancer (my oldest FIV+ cat who 
>was about 13) and one from heart disease and a tumor.  I think it was 
>all due to the stress of moving and being in a much smaller place. 
>Anyway,  to straighten out the fur and weight problem, I bought Kirkland 
>because it has the highest fat content of any of the dry foods.  
>Several months and several bags of Kirkland later, one of my cats who 
>was almost bald now has a really nice coat (long fur girl, house feral) 
>and the scabs on her skin are gone.  She has put on at least a pound, if not 
>two.  The other cats are gaining weight, all except one.  He needs a thyroid 
>profile when I get some money.  But he's holding his own also.  Of course, my 
>fat cats are getting fatter by the minute.  But on the 
>whole, I'm very happy with Kirkland.  I also use Paws and Claws, which 
>is the brand Tractor Supply feed store puts out. It's quite a bargain although 
>not as fatty as Kirkland but costs $20 for 36 pounds.  I only 
>use canned for the cat who has stomatitis.  Since Kirkland is smaller 
>pellets than other cat food, he is able to eat it without trouble.  I 
>have a membership at Costco through my animal rights organization.  
>There are three of us who do cat rescue and we share the membership fee 
>each year.  We are tax exempt,  which helps also with the price.
>
>
> 
>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>neighbors too!
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-14 Thread Susan Hoffman
Kirkland is Costco's store brand name.  The Kirkland dry food in the purple bag 
is very high quality at a low price.  (In California, where I am, the Kirkland 
dry in the purple bag is $18 for 25 pounds.  First ingredient is chicken, the 
second is chicken meal.  No byproducts or corn.  Best deal out there. They also 
make a no-grain dry in an orange bag, I think they call it Nature's Domain, 
that is around $20 for an 18 pound bag.  I'd pay for my Costco membership for 
access to the dry food alone.
 
Do you have a Costco nearby?
 


 From: dot winkler 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
  

Hi - can you tell me what Kirkland is?  Is it a brand of food?  Where do you 
buy it?
 


 From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
  

i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD.  THEY 
LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT.  I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT 
KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM.  i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE 
FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE.  AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A 
PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right 
> now.  Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a 
> month.  On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to 
> the cats.  Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while 
> others might throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours 
> work to my day.  My freezer would be full of frozen
 chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane.

The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of Kirkland 
going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the 
Kirkland due to fat content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I used to buy 
Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that).  Then I 
bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in 
unison.  Stopped buying that also.  They seem to be able to digest Paws and 
Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones 
lose weight when they eat it.  One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur 
(long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin.  I began feeding Kirkland 
about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs 
and had grown back her fur.  The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She
 looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons 
(Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on
>  Kirkland.  I need to widen the doorway for him.
I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. 


 
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From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food


I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I am 
able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the chicken from 
Whole
 Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, 
then you could roll in for around half that.   

I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of 
food.   Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, 
grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF.  



On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be 
$16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. 
bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my 
cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It went 
up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so
 depressed.  The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content 
and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  
Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless 
Mommy can get another job online.  Sigh.
>
>
>
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-14 Thread dot winkler
Hi - can you tell me what Kirkland is?  Is it a brand of food?  Where do you 
buy it?



 From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
 

i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD.  THEY 
LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT.  I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT 
KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM.  i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE 
FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE.  AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A 
PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right 
> now.  Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a 
> month.  On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to 
> the cats.  Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while 
> others might throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours 
> work to my day.  My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in 
> time for their dinner and I would go insane.

The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of Kirkland 
going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the 
Kirkland due to fat content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I used to buy 
Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that).  Then I 
bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in 
unison.  Stopped buying that also.  They seem to be able to digest Paws and 
Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones 
lose weight when they eat it.  One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur 
(long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin.  I began feeding Kirkland 
about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs 
and had grown back her fur.  The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She 
looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons 
(Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on
>  Kirkland.  I need to widen the doorway for him.
I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. 


 
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too!





From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food


I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I am 
able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the chicken from 
Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic 
butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.   

I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of 
food.   Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, 
grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF.  



On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be 
$16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. 
bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my 
cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It went 
up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The crap I buy 
at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual 
chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well, kitties, you're 
going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another 
job online.  Sigh.
>
>
>
> 
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>neighbors too!
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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: 
http://vimeo.com/nokill/vi

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I spend half again that much.However, it's not a numbers game, it's
what you can handle.   I know of someone who has 40 colonies in three
cities.   She gets up at 2:30 a.m. each morning to do half each day, and
then goes to work full time.  (BTW, she spends $1000/month on mostly
kibble.)

Do you have pet food banks near you?   You can also contact pet food stores
to see if they will give you outdated food.   Even if the cans are dented,
they are OK, as they have a protective lining.


On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 6:13 PM,  wrote:

> I never thought about that!  I cry at $100 a month. $1000 would give me
> heart failure!  Will try those cards.  Great idea!
>
>
>  Susan Hoffman > wrote: > I spend about $1000 a month with a
> population that ranges from 25-40, depending on adoptions and new intake.




Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!

If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
life.  Contact your local pound for information.


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
http://vimeo.com/48445902



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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Lee Evans
Hey Susan, where do you get PetsMart discounted gift cards.  I have never seen 
them.  Is this one of those online places or eBay or where?


 
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 From: Susan Hoffman 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
 

I spend about $1000 a month with a population that ranges from 25-40, depending 
on adoptions and new intake.  We feed primarily canned but with dry (mostly 
Kirkland Premium and the no-grain in the orange bag).  It's a big chunk of 
money every month but the cats are happy and healthy.
 
For the past year I've been planning ahead and buying discounted PetSmart gift 
cards through http://www.giftcardbin.com/ and http://www.cardpool.com/  They 
also have petco cards but nothing for Costco.  Take a look.  It really has 
helped my budget.  (I recently combined gift cards discounted by 18% with the 
PetSmart Friends & Family sale discount of 15%, and used a few random coupons.  
For awhile there I had a lot of cases of friskies stacked up in the living 
room!)

From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

Since Homey and Nitnoy, I feed half canned and dry.  I also have water 
fountains and that makes a diffrence in how much they drink.  I have to fill up 
the 2 fountains every morning and afternoon.  Each takes 64 ounces. Course Casey
 spills some.  She likes to bat at the water before she drinks.  I never 
thought about how much per day per cat, just feed them.  I usually give about 
1/4 cup in morning, afternoon and evening of the dry Blue Buffalo and 1 can 
divided by 7.  I mix the can with 2 cans of hot water.  The heat makes it smell 
more and they always drink the liquid and later on eat the meat.

 Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote: 
> I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I
> am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the
> chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say
> local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.
> 
> I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as
 high-octane
> of food.  Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food,
> grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with
> CRF.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:
> 
> > Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be
> > $16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb.
> > bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my
> > cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It
> > went up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The
> > crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't
>
 > have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well,
> > kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless
> > Mommy can get another job online.  Sigh.
> >
> >
> > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> > neighbors too!
> >
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> Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!
> 
> If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
> life. 
 Contact your local pound for information.
> <http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm>
> 
> If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
> to free up cage space.
> 
> 
> Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
> implementing the No Kill Equation:
> http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/<http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/>
> 
> Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
> http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/
> 
> Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org
> 
> More fun reading:
 http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/
> 
> More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
> http://vimeo.com/48445902
> 
> 
> 
> Local feral cat crisis?  See Alley Cat Allies'

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread dlgegg
I never thought about that!  I cry at $100 a month. $1000 would give me heart 
failure!  Will try those cards.  Great idea!




 Susan Hoffman > wrote: > I spend about $1000 a month with a population 
that ranges from 25-40, depending on adoptions and new intake.  We feed 
primarily canned but with dry (mostly Kirkland Premium and the no-grain in the 
orange bag).  It's a big chunk of money every month but the cats are happy and 
healthy.   For the past year I've been planning ahead and buying discounted 
PetSmart gift cards through http://www.giftcardbin.com/ and 
http://www.cardpool.com/  They also have petco cards but nothing for Costco.  
Take a look.  It really has helped my budget.  (I recently combined gift cards 
discounted by 18% with the PetSmart Friends & Family sale discount of 15%, and 
used a few random coupons.  For awhile there I had a lot of cases of friskies 
stacked up in the living room!)  From: 
"dlg...@windstream.net" > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, 
October 11, 2012 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food Since 
Homey and Nitnoy, I feed half canned and dry.  I also have water fountains and 
that makes a diffrence in how much they drink.  I have to fill up the 2 
fountains every morning and afternoon.  Each takes 64 ounces. Course Casey 
spills some.  She likes to bat at the water before she drinks.  I never thought 
about how much per day per cat, just feed them.  I usually give about 1/4 cup 
in morning, afternoon and evening of the dry Blue Buffalo and 1 can divided by 
7.  I mix the can with 2 cans of hot water.  The heat makes it smell more and 
they always drink the liquid and later on eat the meat.  Kathryn Hargreaves 
> wrote: > I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding 
dry.  I > am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the 
> chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say > 
local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. > > I've 
heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane > of 
food.  Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, > 
grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with > CRF. 
> > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans > wrote: > > > Oh, @#$%!!!.  
The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be > > $16.99.  Then 
it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. > > bags a week 
and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my > > cats ate 
most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It > > went up 
$1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The > > crap I buy 
at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't > > have actual 
chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well, > > kitties, 
you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless > > Mommy can 
get another job online.  Sigh. > > > > > > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs 
and your weird relatives and nasty > > neighbors too! > > > > > > 
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> > > -- >  > Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter 
Animal! > > If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to 
save their > life.  Contact your local pound for information. > > > > If you 
can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and > to free up 
cage space. > > > Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their 
intake by > implementing the No Kill Equation: > 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/> > > 
Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: > 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/ > > Legislate 
better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org > > More fun reading: 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ > > More fun 
watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially > http://vimeo.com/48445902 
> > > > 

Local feral cat crisis?  See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: > 
http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread dlgegg
That is especially true of my Harley, he will chase, catch and eat anything 
that moves.  He was chasing a moth one night an it flew to the ceiling.  He 
jumped and hit his head on the ceiling.  I didn't see if he caught the moth, I 
was laughing at him.  Had the funniest look on his face.


 Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote: 
> Actually, a lot of ferals live on/supplement with insects.   We don't have
> water bugs inside here, but I've seen them around, so the cats must be
> eating them.(BTW, just read that insects are the healthiest meat humans
> can eat, as they are low-fat and animal fat is hard on humans.)
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:34 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
> molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > **
> > Should have tied a string to the rabbit and dragged it along the floor.
> >  They chase and eat anything that moves in my house!  If flies had enough
> > protein several of mine could live off them.
> >
> > Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on AT&T
> >
> >
> > - Reply message -
> > From: dlg...@windstream.net
> > To: 
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
> > Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 4:09 pm
> >
> >
> >
> > i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD.  
> > THEY LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT.  I ONLY HAVE 
> > 7, BUT KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM.  i HAVE A SIDE BY 
> > SIDE AND THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE.  AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW 
> > WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY.
> >
> >  Lee Evans  > > wrote:
> > > It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right 
> > > now.  Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around 
> > > $250 a month.  On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw 
> > > chicken to the cats.  Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what 
> > > it was while others might throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add 
> > > about 3 hours work to my day.  My freezer would be full of frozen 
> > > chicken, not defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane.
> >
> > The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of 
> > Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat 
> > less of the Kirkland due to fat content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I 
> > used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to 
> > eat that).  Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats 
> > began throwing up in unison.  Stopped buying that also.  They seem to be 
> > able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 
> > 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it.  One of my cats, 
> > Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her 
> > skin.  I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I 
> > realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur.  The 
> > fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a 
> > pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also 
> > gained weight on
> > >  Kirkland.  I need to widen the doorway for him.
> > I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> > to free up cage space.
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
It's even worse than that:
http://siriusdog.com/rendering-plants-pet-food.htm   And I've heard that at
a local plant, the animals weren't even all dead.   The tough guy who told
me that was crying, so I believe him.

On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> Yum!  It's lunch time here.  So glad I'm a vegetarian and don't have to
> face a plate of meat after that tidbit of information.  But yes, cats do
> eat the whole animal and I won't get into the things that they have so
> generously given me after they caught a bird or lizard but they don't eat
> cows or sheep or pigs or intestines with the crap in them and that's what
> commercial by-products are.  No one is going to empty and wash out
> intestines before adding them to the heap.
>
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
>   --
> *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2012 4:36 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
>
> They do eat by-products when they eat the whole prey, but they are getting
> all the rest, too, which they don't get with just by-products (where the
> good stuff has been taken out for human consumption).   By-products contain
> much less nutrition and are often indigestible.  Note that cats also get
> some minerals by eating the dirt that's on the animals.   Guess that's why
> some feral feeders just put the food on the ground.  :-)
>
> That has always surprised me when people report that their cat doesn't eat
> the organs, as those (exept for feces-filled intestines) are the most
> nutritious things in the prey's body, and also (I've read that) the big
> cats eat the organs first and bury the rest of the body for the next day.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM,  wrote:
>
> While we are on the subject of raw diet, don't they eat some of those
> things when they catch a mouse, rabbit or squirrel or bird?  The only
> things my guys don't eat are the organs, especially intestines.  Other
> wise, they eat the whole thing.
>
>
>
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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
life.  Contact your local pound for information.
<http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm>

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/<http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/>

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Lee Evans
Yum!  It's lunch time here.  So glad I'm a vegetarian and don't have to face a 
plate of meat after that tidbit of information.  But yes, cats do eat the whole 
animal and I won't get into the things that they have so generously given me 
after they caught a bird or lizard but they don't eat cows or sheep or pigs or 
intestines with the crap in them and that's what commercial by-products are.  
No one is going to empty and wash out intestines before adding them to the heap.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
 

They do eat by-products when they eat the whole prey, but they are getting all 
the rest, too, which they don't get with just by-products (where the good stuff 
has been taken out for human consumption).   By-products contain much less 
nutrition and are often indigestible.  Note that cats also get some minerals by 
eating the dirt that's on the animals.   Guess that's why some feral feeders 
just put the food on the ground.  :-)
That has always surprised me when people report that their cat doesn't eat the 
organs, as those (exept for feces-filled intestines) are the most nutritious 
things in the prey's body, and also (I've read that) the big cats eat the 
organs first and bury the rest of the body for the next day.




On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM,  wrote:

While we are on the subject of raw diet, don't they eat some of those things 
when they catch a mouse, rabbit or squirrel or bird?  The only things my guys 
don't eat are the organs, especially intestines.  Other wise, they eat the 
whole thing.
>
>
>
>-- 

Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!

If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: 
http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902




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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Actually, a lot of ferals live on/supplement with insects.   We don't have
water bugs inside here, but I've seen them around, so the cats must be
eating them.(BTW, just read that insects are the healthiest meat humans
can eat, as they are low-fat and animal fat is hard on humans.)


On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 3:34 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com <
molvey...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> **
> Should have tied a string to the rabbit and dragged it along the floor.
>  They chase and eat anything that moves in my house!  If flies had enough
> protein several of mine could live off them.
>
> Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on AT&T
>
>
> - Reply message -
> From: dlg...@windstream.net
> To: 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
> Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 4:09 pm
>
>
>
> i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD.  THEY 
> LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT.  I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT 
> KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM.  i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND 
> THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE.  AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A 
> PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY.
>
>  Lee Evans  > wrote:
> > It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right 
> > now.  Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 
> > a month.  On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken 
> > to the cats.  Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was 
> > while others might throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add about 3 
> > hours work to my day.  My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not 
> > defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane.
>
> The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of Kirkland 
> going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the 
> Kirkland due to fat content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I used to buy 
> Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that).  Then 
> I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in 
> unison.  Stopped buying that also.  They seem to be able to digest Paws and 
> Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older 
> ones lose weight when they eat it.  One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her 
> fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin.  I began feeding 
> Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no 
> more scabs and had grown back her fur.  The fat content did her a whole lot 
> of good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more 
> active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on
> >  Kirkland.  I need to widen the doorway for him.
> I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder.
>
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
> neighbors too!
>
> >
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>
> If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
> life.  Contact your local pound for information.
>
>
> If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
> free up cage space.
>
> Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
> implementing the No Kill Equation: 
> http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/
>
>
> Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
> http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/
>
> Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org
>
> More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/
>
> More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially 
> http://vimeo.com/48445902
>
>
>
>
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> http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537
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to free up

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread molveywda
Should have tied a string to the rabbit and dragged it along the floor.  They 
chase and eat anything that moves in my house!  If flies had enough protein 
several of mine could live off them.

Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on AT&T

- Reply message -
From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: 
Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
Date: Fri, Oct 12, 2012 4:09 pm
i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD.  THEY 
LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT.  I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT 
KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM.  i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE 
FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE.  AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A 
PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. 
>  Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a 
> month.  On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to 
> the cats.  Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while 
> others might throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours 
> work to my day.  My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in 
> time for their dinner and I would go insane.

The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of Kirkland 
going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the 
Kirkland due to fat content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I used to buy 
Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that).  Then I 
bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in 
unison.  Stopped buying that also.  They seem to be able to digest Paws and 
Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones 
lose weight when they eat it.  One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur 
(long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin.  I began feeding Kirkland 
about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs 
and had grown back her fur.  The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She 
looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons 
(Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on
>  Kirkland.  I need to widen the doorway for him.
I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. 



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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially 
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Yes, searing the raw meat is a good way to get the smell factor up.   I had
one cat that took six months to get off kibble and onto raw.


On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote:

> I tried raw with my 15 year old calico a few years ago.  She wouldn't
> touch it, wanted me to fry it up in some butter first.
>
> --

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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
life.  Contact your local pound for information.


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
http://vimeo.com/48445902



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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
They do eat by-products when they eat the whole prey, but they are getting
all the rest, too, which they don't get with just by-products (where the
good stuff has been taken out for human consumption).   By-products contain
much less nutrition and are often indigestible.  Note that cats also get
some minerals by eating the dirt that's on the animals.   Guess that's why
some feral feeders just put the food on the ground.  :-)

That has always surprised me when people report that their cat doesn't eat
the organs, as those (exept for feces-filled intestines) are the most
nutritious things in the prey's body, and also (I've read that) the big
cats eat the organs first and bury the rest of the body for the next day.


On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM,  wrote:

> While we are on the subject of raw diet, don't they eat some of those
> things when they catch a mouse, rabbit or squirrel or bird?  The only
> things my guys don't eat are the organs, especially intestines.  Other
> wise, they eat the whole thing.
>
>
> --

Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!

If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
life.  Contact your local pound for information.


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
http://vimeo.com/48445902



Local feral cat crisis?   See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond:
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Edna Taylor

Sounds like a girl after my own heart ;)
 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:28:35 -0700
From: susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

I tried raw with my 15 year old calico a few years ago.  She wouldn't touch it, 
wanted me to fry it up in some butter first.





From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food


i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD.  THEY 
LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT.  I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT 
KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM.  i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE
 FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE.  AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A 
PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now. 
>  Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a 
> month.  On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to 
> the cats.  Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while 
> others might throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours 
> work to my day.  My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in 
> time for their dinner and I would go insane.

The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of Kirkland 
going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the 
Kirkland due to fat
 content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I used to buy Friskies regular type, 
and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that).  Then I bought HEB brand Hill 
Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in unison.  Stopped buying that 
also.  They seem to be able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand 
that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it.  
One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and 
sores on her skin.  I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other 
day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur.  The 
fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a pound 
or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight 
on
>  Kirkland.  I need to widen the doorway for him.
I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder.
 


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food


I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I am 
able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the chicken from 
Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic 
butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.   

I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of 
food.   Also, cats don't drink enough
 water to compensate for dry food, grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very 
good chance of ending up with CRF.  



On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be 
$16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. 
bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my 
cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It went 
up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The crap I buy 
at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual 
chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well, kitties, you're 
going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get
 another job online.  Sigh.
>
>
>
> 
>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>neighbors too!
>
>
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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation:
 http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Le

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Remember, rabbits don't produce Taurine the way cats don't, so if you feed
rabbits again, add Taurine.   Cats died in studies where they were only fed
rabbit.

I have forgotten to get meat out of the freezer, but put it in a plastic
bag and float it in cold water.   That defrosts it really quickly.   That's
a tip I got from Harmony Farms.


On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:09 PM,  wrote:

>
> i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD.
>  THEY LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT.  I ONLY HAVE
> 7, BUT KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM.  i HAVE A SIDE BY
> SIDE AND THE FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE.  AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW
> WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY.
>
>
>
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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
life.  Contact your local pound for information.


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
http://vimeo.com/48445902



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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Susan Hoffman
I tried raw with my 15 year old calico a few years ago.  She wouldn't touch it, 
wanted me to fry it up in some butter first.




From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food


i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD.  THEY 
LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT.  I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT 
KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM.  i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE 
FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE.  AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A 
PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right 
> now.  Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a 
> month.  On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to 
> the cats.  Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while 
> others might throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours 
> work to my day.  My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in 
> time for their dinner and I would go insane.

The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of Kirkland 
going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the 
Kirkland due to fat content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I used to buy 
Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that).  Then I 
bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in 
unison.  Stopped buying that also.  They seem to be able to digest Paws and 
Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones 
lose weight when they eat it.  One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur 
(long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin.  I began feeding Kirkland 
about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs 
and had grown back her fur.  The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She 
looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons 
(Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on
>  Kirkland.  I need to widen the doorway for him.
I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. 


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food


I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I am 
able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the chicken from 
Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic 
butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.   

I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of 
food.   Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, 
grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF.  



On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be 
$16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. 
bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my 
cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It went 
up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The crap I buy 
at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual 
chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well, kitties, you're 
going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another 
job online.  Sigh.
>
>
>
> 
>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>neighbors too!
>
>
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>
>


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Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!

If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org/

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread dlgegg
While we are on the subject of raw diet, don't they eat some of those things 
when they catch a mouse, rabbit or squirrel or bird?  The only things my guys 
don't eat are the organs, especially intestines.  Other wise, they eat the 
whole thing.


 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> This is why my check register and my bank account never balance.  You're 
> right.  It's more like $24 a day.  Back to the 36 pounds of corn meal and 
> by-product powder in a bag.  Incidentally, a by-product can be anything that 
> is not the main product of what is being produced.  So a by-product of meat 
> production can be animal poop, hair, bone, hoofs, and other unmentionables.  
> It's usually intestines and organs that humans would not consider eating. The 
> exception is cow hooves.  Gelatin is made from cow hooves.  I guess Jello 
> sounds more appetizing than Hoofo.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
 

I'm not quite sure how you arrived at the $9/day, at least not based on what I 
said.   It seems too low.

Yes, transition to raw is sometimes a slow one, at least for some cats.



On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now.  
Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month.  
On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats.  
Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might 
throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day.  
My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their 
dinner and I would go insane.
>
>The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of Kirkland 
>going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the 
>Kirkland due to fat content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I used to buy 
>Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat
 that).  Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began 
throwing up in unison.  Stopped buying that also.  They seem to be able to 
digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but 
the older ones lose weight when they eat it.  One of my cats, Isadora lost most 
of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin.  I began feeding 
Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no 
more scabs and had grown back her fur.  The fat content did her a whole lot of 
good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. 
Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland.  I need to widen the 
doorway for him.
>I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. 
>
>
>
> 
>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>neighbors too!
>
>
>
>
>
>____
> From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM
>
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
> 
>
>
>I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I am 
>able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the chicken from 
>Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic 
>butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.   
>
>
>I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of 
>food.   Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, 
>grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF.  
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:
>
>Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be 
>$16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. 
>bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my 
>cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It went 
>up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The crap I buy 
>at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual 
>chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well, kitties, you're 
>going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another 
>job online.  Sigh.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>>neighbors too!
>>
>>
>>___
>&g

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread dlgegg

i TRIED RABBIT FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO RAISES HIS ORGANIC FOR HIS OWN FOOD.  THEY 
LOOKED AT IT LIKE IT WAS ALIEN, WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH IT.  I ONLY HAVE 7, BUT 
KEEPING ENOUGH MEAT FOR THEM WOULD BE A PROBLEM.  i HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE AND THE 
FREEZER IS NOT THAT LARGE.  AND GETTING IT OUT IN TIME TO THAW WOULD BE A 
PROBLEM WITH MY MEMORY.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right 
> now.  Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a 
> month.  On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to 
> the cats.  Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while 
> others might throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours 
> work to my day.  My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in 
> time for their dinner and I would go insane.

The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of Kirkland 
going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the 
Kirkland due to fat content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I used to buy 
Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that).  Then I 
bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in 
unison.  Stopped buying that also.  They seem to be able to digest Paws and 
Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones 
lose weight when they eat it.  One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur 
(long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin.  I began feeding Kirkland 
about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs 
and had grown back her fur.  The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She 
looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons 
(Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on
>  Kirkland.  I need to widen the doorway for him.
I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. 


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
 

I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I am 
able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the chicken from 
Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic 
butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.   

I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of 
food.   Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, 
grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF.  



On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be 
$16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. 
bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my 
cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It went 
up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The crap I buy 
at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual 
chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well, kitties, you're 
going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another 
job online.  Sigh.
>
>
>
> 
>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>neighbors too!
>
>
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>
>


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Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!

If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: 
http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902




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respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537

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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Lee Evans
This is why my check register and my bank account never balance.  You're 
right.  It's more like $24 a day.  Back to the 36 pounds of corn meal and 
by-product powder in a bag.  Incidentally, a by-product can be anything that is 
not the main product of what is being produced.  So a by-product of meat 
production can be animal poop, hair, bone, hoofs, and other unmentionables.  
It's usually intestines and organs that humans would not consider eating. The 
exception is cow hooves.  Gelatin is made from cow hooves.  I guess Jello 
sounds more appetizing than Hoofo.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
 

I'm not quite sure how you arrived at the $9/day, at least not based on what I 
said.   It seems too low.

Yes, transition to raw is sometimes a slow one, at least for some cats.



On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now.  
Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month.  
On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats.  
Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might 
throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day.  
My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their 
dinner and I would go insane.
>
>The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of Kirkland 
>going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the 
>Kirkland due to fat content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I used to buy 
>Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat
 that).  Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began 
throwing up in unison.  Stopped buying that also.  They seem to be able to 
digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but 
the older ones lose weight when they eat it.  One of my cats, Isadora lost most 
of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin.  I began feeding 
Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no 
more scabs and had grown back her fur.  The fat content did her a whole lot of 
good. She looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. 
Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on Kirkland.  I need to widen the 
doorway for him.
>I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. 
>
>
>
> 
>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>neighbors too!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM
>
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
> 
>
>
>I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I am 
>able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the chicken from 
>Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic 
>butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.   
>
>
>I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of 
>food.   Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, 
>grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF.  
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:
>
>Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be 
>$16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. 
>bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my 
>cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It went 
>up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The crap I buy 
>at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual 
>chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well, kitties, you're 
>going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another 
>job online.  Sigh.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
>>neighbors too!
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I'm not quite sure how you arrived at the $9/day, at least not based on
what I said.   It seems too low.

Yes, transition to raw is sometimes a slow one, at least for some cats.


On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right
> now.  Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250
> a month.  On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken
> to the cats.  Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was
> while others might throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add about 3
> hours work to my day.  My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not
> defrosted in time for their dinner and I would go insane.
>
> The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of
> Kirkland going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat
> less of the Kirkland due to fat content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I
> used to buy Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to
> eat that).  Then I bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats
> began throwing up in unison.  Stopped buying that also.  They seem to be
> able to digest Paws and Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for
> 36 pounds but the older ones lose weight when they eat it.  One of my cats,
> Isadora lost most of her fur (long hair) and had scabs and sores on her
> skin.  I began feeding Kirkland about 3 months ago and the other day I
> realized that Isadora had no more scabs and had grown back her fur.  The
> fat content did her a whole lot of good. She looks like she has gained a
> pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons (Big Butt-tons) also
> gained weight on Kirkland.  I need to widen the doorway for him.
> I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder.
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
>   --
> *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
>
> I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.
>  I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the
> chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say
> local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.
>
> I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane
> of food.   Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food,
> grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with
> CRF.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans wrote:
>
> Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be
> $16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb.
> bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my
> cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It
> went up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The
> crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't
> have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well,
> kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless
> Mommy can get another job online.  Sigh.
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
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<http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm>

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
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Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-11 Thread Lorrie
I have 24 cats total... 14 at home and 10 in my shelter/sanctuary. 
Plus I feed a feral colony.

I use Purina One which is moderately priced. About $23.00 for a 16 pound
bag at Walmart.  I spend about $150.00 to $200. a week on cat food and
litter and it is infuriating how they keep cutting the size of the bags!
Every few months there is less in the bag. My cats also get canned Friskies
and Fancy Feast or Sheba for my special needs cats.

Lorrie

On 10-11, Lee Evans wrote:
>Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to
>be $16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two
>20 lb. bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco
>because my cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to
>$18.99!!!  It went up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so
>depressed.  The crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat
>content and doesn't have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a
>36 pound bag.  Well, kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap
>and corn meal unless Mommy can get another job online.  Sigh.
> 
>Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
>neighbors too!

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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-11 Thread Lee Evans
It would be nice if I could do that but I'm feeding around 35 cats right now.  
Feeding raw would cost me around $9 a day with turns into around $250 a month.  
On top of which, I would be a little nervous to feed raw chicken to the cats.  
Some of them probably wouldn't even understand what it was while others might 
throw it up at first.  Cooked chicken would add about 3 hours work to my day.  
My freezer would be full of frozen chicken, not defrosted in time for their 
dinner and I would go insane.

The dry food costs me about $100 - $150 a month.  With the price of Kirkland 
going up it would cost me about equal to that because they eat less of the 
Kirkland due to fat content.  Seems to fill them up better.  I used to buy 
Friskies regular type, and Purina Cat Chow (no one wanted to eat that).  Then I 
bought HEB brand Hill Country Fair and all the cats began throwing up in 
unison.  Stopped buying that also.  They seem to be able to digest Paws and 
Claws, the Tractor Supply brand that cost $20 for 36 pounds but the older ones 
lose weight when they eat it.  One of my cats, Isadora lost most of her fur 
(long hair) and had scabs and sores on her skin.  I began feeding Kirkland 
about 3 months ago and the other day I realized that Isadora had no more scabs 
and had grown back her fur.  The fat content did her a whole lot of good. She 
looks like she has gained a pound or two and is much more active. Mr. Buttons 
(Big Butt-tons) also gained weight on
 Kirkland.  I need to widen the doorway for him.
I will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. 


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food
 

I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I am 
able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the chicken from 
Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic 
butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.   

I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane of 
food.   Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food, 
grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with CRF.  



On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be 
$16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. 
bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my 
cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It went 
up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The crap I buy 
at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual 
chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well, kitties, you're 
going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another 
job online.  Sigh.
>
>
>
> 
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>neighbors too!
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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: 
http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902




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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-11 Thread Susan Hoffman
I spend about $1000 a month with a population that ranges from 25-40, depending 
on adoptions and new intake.  We feed primarily canned but with dry (mostly 
Kirkland Premium and the no-grain in the orange bag).  It's a big chunk of 
money every month but the cats are happy and healthy.
 
For the past year I've been planning ahead and buying discounted PetSmart gift 
cards through http://www.giftcardbin.com/ and http://www.cardpool.com/  They 
also have petco cards but nothing for Costco.  Take a look.  It really has 
helped my budget.  (I recently combined gift cards discounted by 18% with the 
PetSmart Friends & Family sale discount of 15%, and used a few random coupons.  
For awhile there I had a lot of cases of friskies stacked up in the living 
room!)



From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

Since Homey and Nitnoy, I feed half canned and dry.  I also have water 
fountains and that makes a diffrence in how much they drink.  I have to fill up 
the 2 fountains every morning and afternoon.  Each takes 64 ounces. Course 
Casey spills some.  She likes to bat at the water before she drinks.  I never 
thought about how much per day per cat, just feed them.  I usually give about 
1/4 cup in morning, afternoon and evening of the dry Blue Buffalo and 1 can 
divided by 7.  I mix the can with 2 cans of hot water.  The heat makes it smell 
more and they always drink the liquid and later on eat the meat.

 Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote: 
> I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I
> am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the
> chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say
> local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.
> 
> I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane
> of food.  Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food,
> grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with
> CRF.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:
> 
> > Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be
> > $16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb.
> > bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my
> > cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It
> > went up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The
> > crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't
> > have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well,
> > kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless
> > Mommy can get another job online.  Sigh.
> >
> >
> > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> > neighbors too!
> >
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> 
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> 
> Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!
> 
> If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
> life.  Contact your local pound for information.
> <http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm>
> 
> If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
> to free up cage space.
> 
> 
> Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
> implementing the No Kill Equation:
> http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/<http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/>
> 
> Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
> http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/
> 
> Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org
> 
> More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/
> 
> More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
> http://vimeo.com/48445902
> 
> 
> 
> Local feral cat crisis?  See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond:
> http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537


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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-11 Thread Natalie
Muyltiply that by 10 + - Natalie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food


ME TOO!  I only have 7 and their food and litter costs over $100.00 per month.  
Vet bills are something else.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be 
> $16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. 
> bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my 
> cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It went 
> up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The crap I 
> buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual 
> chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well, kitties, you're 
> going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another 
> job online.  Sigh.


 
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too!


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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-11 Thread dlgegg
Since Homey and Nitnoy, I feed half canned and dry.  I also have water 
fountains and that makes a diffrence in how much they drink.  I have to fill up 
the 2 fountains every morning and afternoon.  Each takes 64 ounces. Course 
Casey spills some.  She likes to bat at the water before she drinks.  I never 
thought about how much per day per cat, just feed them.  I usually give about 
1/4 cup in morning, afternoon and evening of the dry Blue Buffalo and 1 can 
divided by 7.  I mix the can with 2 cans of hot water.  The heat makes it smell 
more and they always drink the liquid and later on eat the meat.

 Kathryn Hargreaves  wrote: 
> I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I
> am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the
> chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say
> local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.
> 
> I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane
> of food.   Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food,
> grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with
> CRF.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:
> 
> > Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be
> > $16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb.
> > bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my
> > cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It
> > went up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The
> > crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't
> > have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well,
> > kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless
> > Mommy can get another job online.  Sigh.
> >
> >
> > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> > neighbors too!
> >
> >
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> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!
> 
> If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
> life.  Contact your local pound for information.
> 
> 
> If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
> to free up cage space.
> 
> 
> Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
> implementing the No Kill Equation:
> http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/
> 
> Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
> http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/
> 
> Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org
> 
> More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/
> 
> More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
> http://vimeo.com/48445902
> 
> 
> 
> Local feral cat crisis?   See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond:
> http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537


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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-11 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry.  I
am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat.  If you didn't buy the
chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say
local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that.

I've heard they have to eat more dry than raw, as it isn't as high-octane
of food.   Also, cats don't drink enough water to compensate for dry food,
grain/starch-free or not, and stand a very good chance of ending up with
CRF.


On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Lee Evans  wrote:

> Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be
> $16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb.
> bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my
> cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It
> went up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The
> crap I buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't
> have actual chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well,
> kitties, you're going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless
> Mommy can get another job online.  Sigh.
>
>
> Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
> neighbors too!
>
>
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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
life.  Contact your local pound for information.


If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
http://vimeo.com/48445902



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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-11 Thread dlgegg

ME TOO!  I only have 7 and their food and litter costs over $100.00 per month.  
Vet bills are something else.

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be 
> $16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. 
> bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my 
> cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It went 
> up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The crap I 
> buy at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual 
> chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well, kitties, you're 
> going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another 
> job online.  Sigh.


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-11 Thread Edna Taylor

We went the "good food" route and were feeding everyone Blue for a long time 
and everyone kept throwing up (A LOT) so we went back to Purina Complete and 
everyone seems happy, there is no more throwing up and they are healthy.  Our 
vet said some cats cannot tolerate the high fat and protein in some of the 
"holistic" brands and considering it was $40 a bag, I am A OK with that ;)
 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 11:06:37 -0700
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

Oh, @#$%!!!.  The price of Kirkland Adult Maintenance cat food used to be 
$16.99.  Then it went up a year later to $17.59.  Well, I bought two 20 lb. 
bags a week and a half ago.  This Tuesday, I went back to Costco because my 
cats ate most of the Kirkland and the price had gone up to $18.99!!!  It went 
up $1.49 in about a week.  This is robbery.  I'm so depressed.  The crap I buy 
at the feed store doesn't have a high fat content and doesn't have actual 
chicken like Kirkland and is $20  for a 36 pound bag.  Well, kitties, you're 
going to be back on a diet of crap and corn meal unless Mommy can get another 
job online.  Sigh.

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neighbors too!


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