Michelle,
I am so sorry for your loss. I felt like I knew Bramble too. I know you are going to miss him so much after spending so much time caring for him. I'm so glad he had such a loving home. You were both lucky to find each other and Bramble knows how much you loved him.
tonyaDel Daniels
Michelle,
Peace to you and your sweet Bramble. He is surely romping once again,
healthy and full of vigor. You fought hard for him and gave him the love
he deserved.
Hugs,
Del
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Thanks for that info, Jo. I wasa big fan of Rebound (a liquid meal replacement for sick cats; had some electroloyetes in it, too) until they changed the formula! Since I discovered it, I always had sick kitties lap it; NOW, the new improved formula is a) lower in calories (?huh? why would you
I haven't seen this mentioned, but its worth a shot... Have you tried CliniCare? Its like Ensure for kitties... in fact they are made by the same company. Its complete nutrition and its even used for kitties fed via a tube. Here's a link so you know what to look for.
Michelle,
Sniffing at food is a good sign and is often a precursor to them starting to eat on their own.
Michelle
(just make sure you have a barf bag right next to
you when you go to open it) LOL!
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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That is really great! And you have no idea how crazy you sound saying that your mom has cat care duties because you are parachuting for a donkey sanctuary! It's why I love this group!
Michelle
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That is really great! And you
Wow, Michelle! What wonderful news about Bramble! I have my fingers crossed! Best of luck tomorrow; I think what you're doing is fantastic and you have WAY more gumption than I do!
I don't even like being up in the air when I stay inside the plane!
Julie
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Dear Michelle
Great to hear that Bramble is enjoying his food---AND eating on his own
now. He's obviously benefiting from your strength---I can't tell you how much I
admire you, Michelle, for signing up for a parachute jump for the donkey
sanctuary. ICAN tell you however that that's one of
Parachuting?
You are CRAZY! I'd rather perform home dentistry
with a pair of pliers and an ice pick!
You do have a will that specifies for the care of
your cats if you die, right?
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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and the first thing i said when i came out of the anesthetic after my
second back surgery was, i guess this means i never will get to take
up skydiving, huh? i LOVE heights, always wanted to do
parachuting..
yep, we are a STRANGE group of folks
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Michelle,
Hi, hope Bramble is eating some more today..
I have used a feeding tube in the past...I had a kitty that hadlymphosarcoma, so she wasput on chemo monthly and had to have a tube which when they did the exploratory and found they couldn't remove the mass they just inserted it then...They
Glad to hear he is still hanging in there... I
kinda suspected he would, he is one TOUGH cat!
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Michelle, you're doing so well, getting
enough food into Bramble. That's great to hear.
He's such a trooper--you both
are!
I'm rooting for him--(and hope for your sake
he decides to eat for himself soon!).
take care
Kerry
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Michelle,
I've never had to use a feeding tube, but from what I hear, the kitties
that need them do really well and even enjoy being fed through them when
they adjust to the concept. When Gypsy was so close to death, I would
have welcomed one for her, but she was too weak to undergo the
I had to syringe feed Ginger for two weeks, through bad teeth and a bad URI, before she started eating on her own. Cyproheptadine (periactin) did help her some-- I don't remember if Bramble is already getting this or not. Did you try the liver shake?
Michelle
that you are
already doing that..
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I had to syringe feed Ginger for two weeks, through bad
teeth and a bad URI
Hi,
I hope Bramble is feeling somewhat better today. I don't know if you posted or someone else about your kitty having a hot head and ears with a normal rectal temp..I have a 14 yr old that does this all the time..It is his blood pressure...When it is elevated, his ears are red and his head is
Michele, I am very sorry to hear Bramble is getting worse. I will pay for you two.
Hug
Alejandra
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Bramble is worseDate: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:22:33 EDTToday Bramble is worse - he is very lethargic,
I keep mentioning this, but I think it is worth trying Immuno-regulin shots. They really helped, I think, when Patches had pneumonia and when Ginger had a URI that gave her a fever and made her not eat anything. There are articles in I-R and FeLV on this group's website. I would assume they help
Michelle,
I'm sorry Bramble is giving up, he has surely been a brave fella.
Peace and prayers for you and Bramble.
Hugs,Del
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Oh, Michelle, I am so sorry
andIcompletely understand -- we all do -- your anguish over what
poor, brave Brambleis going through. Whatever you decide you need to do to
help him, please never forget that Bramble could not have a more loving and
devoted "mom" than you. And that
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Michelle,
I'm sorry Bramble is giving up, he has
surely been a brave fella. Peace and prayers for you and Bramble.
Hugs,
Del
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I am so sorry to hear about Bramble I have been off and on and tring to follow as best I can but,
Have you tried an animal communicator?
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Today Bramble is worse - he is very lethargic, has swollen lymph nodesand refuses to eat showing no interest in food. Iforce fed
Oh Michelle,
I hope somehow you are wrong and Bramble's just especially down today.
Go ahead and cry, you certainly have cause. If your intuition is right
and Bramble is too tired to keep fighting... I so hope that's not the
case. You've done so much more than most would have to bring him
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Michelle,
I'm sorry Bramble is giving up, he has surely been a brave fella.
Peace and prayers for you and Bramble.
Hugs,Del
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Have you tried chilling the food or heating it--chilling is what comes to
mind for people.
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Subject: Bramble can't eat - ideas please
Any ideas please
Bramble has Calici
Chilling food sounds like it might help make it easier on poor Bramble's
throat. Blending, or liquefying might help. He may need you to
assist-feed him to help him get started. There's a recipe for liver
shake, but I would substitute the tomato/V8 juice, (maybe plain chicken
broth?), it
1. Get your vet to give him Immuno-regulin, which you can order cheaply online if he does not have it. I really think it helps them get over infections and viruses faster.
2. To soothe his mouth and throat, syringe him slippery elm syrup. You can get powdered slippery elm at a health food
Poor Bramble! He has such bad luck! No
newideas here, just wanted to offer some support and good wishes to you
and Bramble. Personally, I would force-feed if it is more than 2 days without
food. Try and see if he will lick a bit of honey off your finger, that makes my
throat feel better
I would definitely try a little syringe feeding. A/D food for ill
animals easily mixes with water. It may perk up his appetite. Cats who
go too long without eating will get Hepatic Lipidosis.
Bonnie
www.elephants.com
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Nutrical is probably the best choice, since it's made for cats. I
hadn't heard about giving cats honey, I know there's a reason you're not
suppose to give it to human babies, can't remember why though. I think
it would be safer to give white Karo corn syrup. That's one of the
ingredients in
Has anyone mentioned valium yet? I haven't caught up with my emails so forgive me if it has already been mentioned.
Valium has a weird side effect with cats. It makes them eat like crazy. The downside is that the cat must be restrained in a carrier because they will hallucinate and perhaps harm
I think Bramble is already hungry, he doesn't want to eat because of his
ulcerated nose and Michelle (Lomax) suspects his throat hurts. We were
trying to come up with things that would be soothing.
Nina
Lewis Faye wrote:
Has anyone mentioned valium yet? I haven't caught up with my emails
The reason why you don't give it to human babies
isbecause honey has been known to contain Botulismspores. Human
babies are notorously unhealthy little fragile things. Most cats shouldn't
beeffected in any way, even if they do get a dab of contaminated honey. In
fact, I can quote the
It has to be given IV to stimulate appetite.
Michelle
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Has anyone mentioned valium yet? I haven't caught up with my emails so forgive me if it has already been mentioned.
Valium has a weird side effect
Have you tried chilling Just Born or one of the mother's milk products on
the market---calories + protein + formulated for catsmaybe mixed with
AD
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My vet gave it orally to a cat of mine and it worked
great. However, if the cat is already hungry it seems
unnecessary.
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I have tried clam juice on top of his favorite food as well..or little cottage cheese..
I have to agree with the a/d. I have had good results when someone is off food with the a/d.
Also, I have used with good results evap. milk. egg yolk and white karo syrup..
Hope he feels better soon.
Kerry and
I forgot to mention that my Bandy is on oxazepam transdermal for appetite stimulant..It seems to be working good with no side effects.. He receives this twice daily..You might ask your vet about that...It really seems to work...
Kerry R.__Do You
Actually A/D is very similar to the meat part of Liver
Shake that a lot of us have usedI have found that adding a little
tomato juice to A/D seems to taste extra good to a cat that is not
eating well...
Tad
Kerry Roach wrote:
I have tried clam juice on top of his favorite food as
But if his throat is raw and that is the problem, the tomato juice, while tasting good, would probably sting.
I still recommend trying slippery elm for the soreness.
Michelle
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Actually A/D is very similar
Good luck with the ringworm, and Buddy's
sickness. I, too, hope it's not anything that will get passed around
again!
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Michelle--I'm sure you already know this, but thought
I'd touch base anyway--I had to give all my Felv cats broiled chicken for weeks
(there was no way the others were going to sit and watch the genuine "patient"
enjoy his without getting in on the act themselves.) (I hear you
, Kerry N.
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Subject: For Michelle re Bramble
RE: George
Michelle--I'm sure you already know this,
but thought I'd touch base anyway--I had to give all my Felv cats broiled
chicken for weeks (there was no way the others were
Thank you Kerry for pointing this out. It's not that important if you
are making a home made diet for just a short time, but extended 'plain
chicken' will cause other problems in the long run. Wysong puts out a
supplement to add to their plain meat canned food called Call of the
Wild. There
Hi Michelle,
I wonder if you could find broth with no sodium as some sort of
specialty food for people who can't tolerate sodium in their diets.
You're going to have to spend some time in the grocery store checking
labels! Bramble won't eat the better brands of cat food? Wysong has an
How does his Fur feel, Amber had that problem when I got her, and for two or three months, she had no hair by her ears at allvitamin E helped her.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Sending strength and healing to you and Bramble and Minstrel from
across the pond.
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well - I've come home to find he has scratched fur and skin off the side
Sending strength and healing to you and Bramble and Minstrel from across the pond.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The boy was doing so well - I've come home to find he has scratched fur and skin off the side of his face over the last couple of hours and it's a big chunk. He will need to go back to the
Michelle,
I hope things go well with poor Bramble at the vet's tomorrow. You'll both be in my thoughts and prayers.
tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The boy was doing so well - I've come home to find he has scratched fur and skin off the side of his face over the last couple of hours and it's a
I asked my vet about seisure meds interfering with the interferon,
she said it would not, and she absolutely can't understand why a vet
would withhold seisure medicine for an animal thats needs them, I got
the distinct impression she didn't think very much of this vet, although
she was too
That is good news. I think Bramble is telling you he wants to hang on. When will his good vet be back?
It sounds like Minstrel might be having an allergic reaction to something. Has he been in contact with the flea treatment or anything else? Or it could be that he just allergies to dust or
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Wonderful to hear that Bramble is doing
well, Michelle. And very glad to hear you had the benefit of another vet's
input---and it was positive input.
Continuing to send lots of healing vibes
Bramble's way. take care, Kerry
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That's WONDERFUL Michelle, I'm so happy for
you!
I can see the injection site warning if your
vet is still going against the recommended vaccine site locations, and doing
them in the scruff, the topical spot on flea meds would be applied in the same
spot. Scary indeed! We MUST get the
Michelle,
Bramble and your family are in my thoughts and prayers, he's such a
fighter! Can you tell if his sight is still slowly improving? Thank
goodness his seizures seem to have stopped.
I had read that not covering feces in the litter box can be indicative
of status, (lower ranking
I think it was sold for dogs with Parvo before it ever caught on for
cats.
Gloria
On Jun 11, 2005, at 9:58 PM, catatonya wrote:
This is promising news!!!
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I will certainly add Grace to my prayers - hope she ok soon.
I will try to answer the questions recently
It was. And that is good news. I was talking about the last paragraph though, where Michelle said that Bramble is holding his own as of yesterday! : )
I hope there's a report from today that's even better!
tonyaGloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Michelle
This is just a short email in relation
tothe fear you expressed about Bramble possiblybecoming
blindit's a short quote from Anitra Frazier's The New Natural Cat (page 33):
"For us, the sense of sight is Number One; to a cat, smell and
hearing are much more
Michelle,
I'm s behind on my emails I'm reading them backwards, so I'm assuming Bramble is hanging in there for now. Good luck. I hope this works out soon, and for the better!
tonya"Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Prayers coming for Bramble! We are all pulling for you! GloriaAt
Jenn,
I'll try and give my Internist a call. They don't always get back to me
right away, but maybe they'll be able to answer the question about
interferon and seziure meds.
Nina
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Hey guys... I've been talking to Michelle privately, and she said
something that
Michelle, or Jenn,
Which Interferon are we talking about feline, or human?
Nina
Nina wrote:
Jenn,
I'll try and give my Internist a call. They don't always get back to
me right away, but maybe they'll be able to answer the question about
interferon and seziure meds.
Nina
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Michelle L.,
Formulate your questions and what Bramble has been prescribed/tested for
so I can ask my vet's office. They've been incredibly indulgent with me
in the past, so I'm hoping they will help. I'm not a vet, so I can't
say what the reason would be to not give Bramble seizure meds,
of rooms and a yard so i can expand the
brood, but so far zippo.
Kerry
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Michelle L
expand the
brood, but so far zippo.
Kerry
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Michelle L.,
Formulate your questions and what
- so if you need them, try to contact me, and I will ship
it to you.
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Kerry N.
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:59 PM
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I'm so
10, 2005 2:14
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(help guys, need advise)Hi Kerry,You know, I do
understand about liability, and not wanting to base judgments on what people
relate without actually doing an exam. I get that, really I do. I
can't tell you how many times
Subject: RE: Bramble (help guys, need advise)
If you ever need for an antibiotics (clavormox or amoxicillin), let me
know - I will try to get it for you. My vets prescribes to me for my
feral cats for the very reason you mentioned - there is no way that I
can catch some of them to bring
LOL, yeah, I know, but when you work in rescues,
you need to find every break you can. It helps that I've worked in a vet office
and a few livestock supply stores, I picked up alot of info that
way.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Thanks Jenn,It really helps when you have a lot of animals.
Hi Michelle,
I talked with my vet and asked her what she thought about what was
going on with Bramble. She asked if he had been tested for toxopsamosis
(sp?), she said FIV+ cats can hace seizures related to this. Has he
been tested for toxopasmosis? If not I would get that done, it is
Michelle, how are you doing? What has happened? Is Bramble still holding on?
Jenn
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Michelle,
I am so sorry about Bramble.He is though a lucky boy to have found a compassionate person, such as yourself, to help release him from his pain.
Joan.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bramble is going to the vet in 1 1/2 hours. I came in to find him appearing visually impaired - he couldn't
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Michelle,
I am so sorry about Bramble. He is though a lucky boy to have found a
compassionate person, such as yourself, to help release him from his
pain.
Joan.
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Bramble is going
Michelle,
There's nothing I can say that you don't already know. I feel your
pain in having to make the toughest decision we ever face. It does
sound like Bramble is suffering, but you're there, I'm not. Make sure
you've made peace with letting him go, if that's what you decide to
do.
Michelle, I'm so sorry to hear Bramble did not
get better overnight. By now, you are probably still at the vet's or back from
there. Please let us know how it went, and if Bramble is gone. My heart goes out
to you on this.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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All paws and fingers crossed.
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Thankyou for you support
Well I stood in the vets sobbing my
Fingers toes
crossed!
Chris
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Subject: Bramble
Thankyou
for you support
I am pulling for you guys, let us know every so often what is happeninggood luck
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thankyou for you support
Well I stood in the vets sobbing my heart out - she considered the flea treatment and said she thinks it is highly unlikely but she couldn't rule it out.
Michelle, do you have any
access to Bach flower remedies? If so, get Oak, Scleranthus and Rescue Remedy.
Pick up a 1oz dropper bottle from the vets or the health food store (if
they carry them). Put 1 oz filtered water with 2 drops each of Oak and Scleranthus,
and 4 drops of Rescue
Hi Michelle,
Did you read the post about rubbing an animal's ears when they are
having a seizure? It's suppose to lessen the severity/duration, I think
they said. (Sorry I can't remember who posted it). If there's a
possibility that it could help, I'd certainly try it. I know how awful
all paws crossed, and all spirits sending GLOW for you both.
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Prayers coming for Bramble! We are all pulling for you! Gloria
At 01:34 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
Thankyou for you support
Well I stood in the vets sobbing my heart out - she considered the flea
treatment and said she thinks it is highly unlikely but she couldn't rule
it out. She had only
with you ever after..
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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:35 PM
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Prayers coming for Bramble! We are all pulling for you! Gloria
At 01:34 PM 6
How's the vigil going Michelle? Figured I'd better check in on you before I
called it
a night
Jenn
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Hi Michelle,
Maybe I'm grasping at straws here, but has he been tested for
toxoplasmosis? That can cause seizures, among other things. Just
wanted to throw out that possibility, since it's treatable. I'll be
keeping Bramble in my prayers.
Yvonne
Mom of FIV+ Simba
to me the seizures would indicate more that he's developed a 2ndary cancer or tumor that's causing the disturbances. yeah, poor Bramble has a lot going on (still not believing they mixed FIV+ and FeLV+) How is his personality changing? Is he leaving, do you think? With such an ill
Positive thoughts coming your way from me and my gang.
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furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
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ah. The other kitties behaving differently is a very big sign that he's really ill. Sending comfort and strength to you both.
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Thanks for the support - I know that this is an FeLV group and Bramble's problem is mainly FIV - althouhgawaiting FeLV results it's nice that
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