From: Aaron Sherber
Take the note position tool from the special tools and drag the 32nd rests
to the right in order to achieve the length of the 32nd beam which you want.
For precision's sake select them all first and then figure out what you need
to set your N
To: "Fisher, Allen"
I'm engraving a 4 and/or 5 staff choral piece. One page has many
bracketed tuplets on it that have slurs that fall on the same side as
the tuplet bracket sits. I'm unsure where the slurs should be in
relation to the tuplet brackets. My scouring of Read, Ross, and the
like
s
From: Ole Buck
I guess I miss what you're after. If I enter a whole note in layer 1,
and fill layer 2 in the same measure with hidden 16ths, the hidden 16th
notes. With "Affects Music Spacing" checked for layer 2, the 16th notes
have an effect on the spacing (no matter what kind o
From: "Fisher, Allen"
I guess I miss what you're after. If I enter a whole note in layer 1,
and fill layer 2 in the same measure with hidden 16ths, the hidden 16th
notes. With "Affects Music Spacing" checked for layer 2, the 16th notes
have an effect on the spacing (no matter what kind of spacing
From: "Fisher, Allen"
Just to clarify, in 2k3 and 2k4 you can turn the spacing of hidden notes on and off in layer options.
Maybe, but not with note spacing. All notes will then consequently
collide when hidden. But with Tobias plugin you can both hide notes and
have them spaced at the same t
From: Javier Ruiz
Is it possible that the note-spacing process includes hidden notes of other
layers?
I thought I had seen it in TGTools somewhere but I can´t find it...
Thanks to all!
Javier Ruiz,
(who is about to take his n-th coffee of the day...)
TGTools/New Spacing/Special Notes/Take hidden
From: "Raymond Horton"
It's really very simple. In 4/4 time, use dotted quarters on beats one and
three, but not on beat two.
Yes and Finale (version 2k3) will only change the dotted quarter where
there really are dis
From: Johannes Gebauer
Sorry, but this is not a very accurate translation, there is actually
absolutely nothing about beats there. This is how not to translate if you
want to make a point.Sure, 'markante einschnitte' is not 'beats' but rather 'distinctive divisions' (of a measure) and I would n
From: Johannes Gebauer
On 18.02.2004 17:11 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote
> Finale is actually correct about this, because you've told it that
> the beat is the quarter note, and modern notational standards require
> that note values larger than the beat (with certain exceptions) be
> notated
From: Rich Caldwell
At first I figured this had to be possible, either in Finale or
elsewhere. So, I first tried with the expression shape creator. I
came up with something, but it wasn't too pretty. I decided it
wasn't worth the trouble for the results. Just now, though, I gave
it anothe
From: Eric Dussault:
I know it's a pain, but couldn't you create a 64ths notes tuplets and with
mass edit --> note duration --> 50% to transform it in 128th. If you have
tons of it, then it will be painful to do all of the occurance, but it's a
workaround.
Again, thanks for the reply, I was not aw
ialog and it don't support 128ths values. Maybe a feature request?
Ole Buck
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, but then I have to use the Tuplet Defintion dialog and
it don't support 128ths values. Maybe a feature request?
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From: Randolph Peters
No. The lack of use in scroll view is why I ignored the feature.
TGTools then came up with a way to align dynamics and hairpins and so
I soon forgot the guides function was there. What are people doing
with this?
I think Guides are most useful when you shall place graphic
From: "Mr. Liudas Motekaitis"
My experience [Finale 2003, Windows] shows that when you go from scroll view
with a measure in question at the left-most measure (say it is #350), then,
upon going to page view, that measure will definately be on screen, even if
you do not highlight it with the Mass E
From: Johannes Gebauer
Does anyone know whether there is a simpler way to enter a repeating rhythm
in Finale, than to enter every note? The rhythm is half a measure long, that
half measure has the same pitches. Then it repeats, with the pitches
changing with every repeat.
Is there a way to enter t
Finale do push grace notes to the left, without changing the spacing. I
don't know much about play-back issues, but they (conductors, musicians)
will always ask you about two things, are they on the beat or are they
before the beat (or off-beat)? Besides of that grace notes groups are
not count
From: Aaron Sherber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Is it a bug or a feature that grace notes on ledger lines get more space
than grace notes on the staff?
It must be a feature since grace note is always notated as close to the
beat as possible. So there are no special note spacing in grace notes
groups
Since no one so far have mentioned Finale's Easy Measure Number plugin,
I will recommend this for pick up measure groups, and in Measure
Tool/Measure Number/Edit region define the display; - I think it can do
here what Lawrence want, namely counting two measure as one, and define
that as regio
From: Darcy James Argue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Is there some easy way -- via plugin or otherwise -- to tell Finale to
find all instances of rhythm X (say dotted half tied to eighth +
eighth) and replace them with rhythm Y (double-dotted half + eighth)?
Darcy,
No, Finale can't copy and replace rh
From: "David H. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You can insert a short measure (messes up measure numbers and playback
but you can make the layout look proper) just before the measure you
want to look like there is a repeat to. Make it something like 1/8 or
shorter, set the time signature to alwa
From: "d. collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
this beaming by four was only recommended if there were
only 8th notes/quavers under the beam: if you have a dotted 8th and a 16th,
for instance, you should revert to beaming by two.
Dennis,
Again, I'm not quite sure there was such a rule for beaming 8th
From: "d. collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
When is it better to beam eighth notes/quavers by four rather than by two
(with C as time signature), in 17th-century pieces? Are there any rules for
this?
Dennis,
You hardly find any exampels where it is beamed in two, and the time signature is always C
Sorry, I had no right so say it was a bug, it was just that I couldn't
understand why TGTools could calculate duration based on shifting Tempo
Tool's metronome markings, and Finale couldn't, at least not in version 2k3.
Glad that it is fixed in 2k4. It is a usefull feature anyway.
Kind regards
O
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Am I the only one who thinks that there should be a plug in, that can tell
you how many minutes & seconds a composition will last, based on the tempos
that you dictate???
Seem to me that it should be fairly easy to do, and useful, too.
From: "Mr. Liudas Mo
Michael Cook wrote:
Ole,
Finale does not offer the possibility of automatically extending
complete secondary beams over rests while keeping the partial
secondary beams (the 32nd stub in your example) short. Here is a
workaround for the case you mention:
- in Document Options/Beams make sure
Robert Patterson wrote:
Hello, Ole. The responses you have gotten so far are correct in that this is major deficiency in Finale. I don't think there is any need for an additional global setting, but a way to shorten individual secondary beams is definitely missing.
But no one has told you the bes
David H. Bailey Wrote:
Keep us posted on what sort of response you get from support.
Ole,
There is unfotunately not a way to adjust the length of secondary beams individually when they are part of a group of beamed notes as shown on your example. I logged in and documented your question as a fea
From: "Burt Fenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The long 32nd stub is caused by beaming over rests being in effect. It looks
much better if you also check 'Display Half Stems for Beamed Rests.'
Burt:
It was not so much first that it should look better, but the fact that a
16th followed by a 32th rest a
David:
Ok, let me specific a bit further what the problem is. Enter, one 16th
note, one 32th rest, one 32th note (that's also called a dotted rhythm),
select Document option/Beams/check Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests, to
beam the 16th together and over the rest, but unfortunately the 32th
st
Hi all,
I guess this has been up before, still I can't believe, that it is not
possible to shortend the secondary beam after a rest. The problem comes
when you have Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests as a option in Document
option/Beams, that means that the secondary stub also is extended over
I'm working on a piano file where all the 8th stems length are too short in
layer 2.
Do you know a way to change this globally without utilizing stem length tool
for each notes?
Thanks for your responses.
Pierre.
Are you sure they are too short? - I suppose it is downstem flags you
mean, for b
From: "Mr. Liudas Motekaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Imagine this: instead of the many circumstances that you have to set
separately at present, you have a single number to provide Finale with:
"Distance From Center of Note head". Oh, how about one more: "Distance from
Center of Whole note Note head
From: "Mr. Liudas Motekaitis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[WinFin 2003]
When editing manually the disgusting tab slides one gets when the notes get
too close together, one has to do this at a pretty high zoom. Often, very
often, one clicks a handle and tries to drag it, and the line goes down into
infi
Thanks David - I guess Finale sees the triplet instruction already in force
and I was doubling the instruction. But I can't get this to work on the
last beat of a bar. What's the trick for that? The Finale manual really
needs to make this clearer - I've been working with the documentation and
no
From: "Daniel Dorff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
First I entered the 8th triplet note, then entered a quarter-triplet to the
left of it. Rather than a long-short grouped tuplet, I get a regular
quarter note followed by the beginning of a triplet grouping (and the cursor
shows triplets activated). Secon
From: "James O'Briant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Needless to say, going back and individually changing all these
articulations is a big pain. So is copying and pasting the same passage
in tiny segments.
What is the solution to this problem?
I believe SmartFind And Paint can do it. Possible automatic
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From: Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I don't know what you are refering to, but if you include me in the list of
people who will save Finale if MakeMusic goes bust, I am afraid I will be
just as f?'#ed as most oth
But both Tobias and I can be somewhat cheerful about it, because in that hopefully unlikely scenario, either one or both of us could fairly easily write a program to downgrade the files.
Besides you have Johannes and Jari, I think also Dennis and Phil, so we don't have to worry, oh, I think the who
consistent syncopated figure notated as 2+3+3 (quarter - dotted quarter
- dotted quarter) would be entirely correct'. The conclusion must be
that 3+3+2 and 3+2+3 is consistent too.
Kind regards
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From: Richard Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Someone asked awhile back about changing fonts on existing chord
suffixes...maybe this was mentioned in replies but I needed to do that today
and found that Data Check > Swap One Font for Another works just fine to do
this. Just do as you would any swap a
the mouse?
Select Attached to Measure in the Smart Shape menu.
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Hello,
I am working on a piece without time-signature. The way i layouted the score
is to hide time sig. and set all barlines to invisible. The bars are mostly
2/4 and rests are shown like it would be a 2/4 bar.
The publisher wants to have all common notes (i.e. all 1/8
m if you try to install on top of a old version. Fin 2003a is not
a updater, but the whole program.
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ld update to Fin 2003a
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Go to Measure Attribute dialogbox, then check the Option for Position
Notes Evenly Across Measure.
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Think you can also have a backward tie end if the bar begins a new staff
system.
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library like "Chord Suffixes Size 9 (Ariel)" and load them again.
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brary and load them again. - Chord
Definition dialog box>Suffix>Select>Click on one Suffix>Edit. Click on
the Next button to move the handle to the alteration symbol>Set
Font...now you can change the font and the size>Press Cmd and click OK
(on Mac) to return dir
easure-attached,
not if it is note-attached. So to avoid that problem Duplicate the shape
and reduce it's size in the Shape Designer to match the staff.
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Carriage return
Text Expression with carriage returns is easy in Expression
Tool>Shape>Shape Designer>Text Tool. - Press Cmd (on Mac) and click OK
to return right back to the score.
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Larry,
Again, I used Finales Chord Suffixes. - Parentheses, Flats and Sharps
are from the Maestro Music Font, Numbers and Letters are form Ariel or
Times text font. So you have at least to ask two times in Chord
menu>Change Chord Suffix Fonts if you want to change the size, one for
each font.
There were all sorts of altered chord symbols like Cm7(b5) in the piece I was
working with, and everything changed just fine when I used "Change Chord
Suffix", including the (b5). I started from a fresh 2003a template. Could that be the difference?
Larry,
Interesting since "Change Chord Suffi
The next button in Chord Suffix Editor move the handle to the next
character. Now you can change the size or the character in the suffix.
And create your own suffix too.
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Earlier this week I used "Change Chord Suffix" in the Chord Menu to change
the chord suffix fonts in several pages of music and it worked just fine. (There
were some pretty long suffix's on some of the chords, too!) Are you talking
about something different than this? If not, I wonder why it w
to
create suffixes as Expressions and align them using TGTools.
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I tried searching for the Apple site for info regarding Chinese
Language Kit, and saw an updater. But after I updated the CLK, it did
not seem to change anything.
As far as I know you can only opdate your Language Kit from the full
install OS 9.1 CD and you must update both at the same time, sy
, and you should
either, but that they are applied to notes (or stemside) with metatools,
so you can have accents and staccato both way automatic.
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in Finales voices feature and special not in how the stem flip, and it's just inside a few keystroke; if you want to learn it, there are a simpel Tuturial in the handbook, chapter 8: Other Notation Topics. It give a good basic understanding of how to use inner voices.
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before you enter the notes in voice 2
(except the very first) to ensure right flipping of the stems in voice
1; if you don't press apostrophe twice then the stem remain un-flipped.
And then you have to flip the stem pressing the key of L.
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characters showing on the screen; however 'light ghosts'
still remain on lines etc. Kind regards Ole Buck
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hould try to program your Smart Shape Selection using metatools.
Then you can both have a line with glissando (or gliss. if you like)
and the very same line without glissando, and only have to enter the
dialog one time.
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ere isn't an easier way.
Robert Patterson's Setting Scrapbook can copy Metatool for Articulations, Expressions and Tuplets.
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Hi list,
don't miss two important books which studies contrapunct in depth: Knud Jeppesen
Kontrapunkt (every aspect of the Palestrina-style) and Dieter de la Motte: Kontrapunkt
(gives a surveys from Perotin to Lutoslawsky), both books have a lot of exampels);
they are to acquaint from english
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