Re: Igor (was [Finale] Sibelius - Dynamic Parts)

2005-07-14 Thread Michael Cook
www.noteheads.com is still there. You can download a demo of Igor, which has sadly not been updated for quite a long time (there's no Mac OSX version). You can even apparently buy it for 295 USD. There are lots of excellent ideas in Igor: it's well worth looking at it just to inspire feature

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
Ken, thanks. The last version of Sib I did serious work in was 1.4, so I'm all-too familiar with many of those frustrations. Some of the fixes I knew about, and some I didn't, but the nicest thing about Mr. Spreadbury's comments is that they seem to reflect a genuine change in attitude from

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Karen
Christopher, I for one, not speaking for anyone else of course but suspecting I'm not alone, appreciate you once again for your voice of reason. Even when I don't agree with what is posted on this list, I nonetheless appreciate the merit in such...there is usually something to be gained.

Re: [Finale] Infrequent posts (fast becoming OT)

2005-07-14 Thread Bunnydowns
In a message dated 7/13/2005 6:58:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Lurker" is not a pejorative term. For the most part I have seen it used in exactly the way I described. But I shall defer to the judgement of Darcy and David and bow out of the discussion now, lest I

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Not to take anyone's illusions away, but I have just been trying to make the full GPO imitate a string quartet. To be honest, the only instrument that is sort of acceptable is the cello, in some registers at least. None of the violins sound remotely like solo violins

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
Darcy James Argue wrote: It was grabbing the tie ends that was hard (especially when items overlapped). Apparently there's now a shortcut to cycle through overlapping items, which is nice (and which would be nice for Finale). Can't you cycle through overlapping items with the selection

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Tyler Turner wrote: [snip] I'm discovering that scores which have a lot of markings for HP to interpret can sound better than a lot of the scores I hear on the GPO demo page - and that's using the Finale GPO set that comes with Finale. Do you HAVE to use HP? Nope. It's all MIDI data that Finale

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Tyler Turner wrote: [snip] For most of the instruments, you get a single solo instrument and 3 ensemble instruments. Thanks for adding that -- after reading Ronald's post I was feeling a bit let-down. I am intrigued now! -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
ronan wrote: [snip] I understand that will not be able to use the full GPO with Finale2006 immediately. But Gary has promised a free patch will be out soon. [snip] That's interesting, especially in light of the fact that they are offering extra-cost addon GPO versions for Finale users to

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Tyler Turner schrieb: Sections strings are solid, but I'm not sure about how well the solo strings can stand on their own or in small ensembles (string quartets, etc.). Not to take anyone's illusions away, but I have just been trying to make the full GPO imitate a

Re: [Finale] Dare I?? O.T.

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
keith helgesen wrote: [sniip] What is the word for ‘identical word- different meaning’e.g. tie, (equal score in game, or neckwear) bolt, (door fastener, run away) Is there a word for same spelling, different meaning and pronounciation- e.g. lead (heavy metal, dog restraint, past

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Lee Actor wrote: Thanks, this is very helpful. It's hard to tell what's missing just from the list of patch names, e.g., Viola Section is included with Finale, but Viola Section (10 players) is only in the full GPO. Also, no Violin II section in either? [snip] Oh, no! No violin II

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: Ken, Great work! Thanks for this; it is indeed point by point and extremely detailed. Of course, given the source, some points will bear confirmation, but it was good to see someone who knows the present version of the program as well as the older version give a

Re: [Finale] Dare I?? O.T.

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Wade KOTTER wrote: Good point. Here's the definition of homograph from the OED: Philol. A word of the same spelling as another, but of different origin and meaning. Wade Kotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/13/05 6:51 PM On 13 Jul 2005, at 23:57, keith helgesen wrote: Is

Re: [Finale] Dare I?? O.T.

2005-07-14 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/14/2005 06:15 AM, dhbailey wrote: Okay, what's the term for words which are originally antonyms but which in certain situations mean the same thing? Example: Cool, HotThat's really cool! That's really hot! (both meaning essentially that's really phat!) ;-) Slang?? Colloquialisms?

Re: Fwd: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/13/2005 09:03 PM, Ken Durling wrote: Sorry, Phil. I overreacted because it was so old as to defy relevance in my eyes. But of course I know the program. I'm sure it's interesting and relevant to someone who hasn't been tracking its progress.. See the response on this list from Daniel

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:12 AM 07/14/2005, dhbailey wrote: Compare that with MakeMusic's official disregard for this list and how we have to look out for each other. On the other hand, Coda does provide forums (as does Sibelius) which are officially monnitored. It would be nice if there were an official presence

Re: [Finale] Dare I?? O.T.

2005-07-14 Thread John Bell
On 14 Jul 2005, at 11:15, dhbailey wrote:Okay, what's the term for words which are originally antonyms but which in certain situations mean the same thing? Example:  Cool, Hot    That's really cool!  That's really hot!  (both meaning essentially "that's really phat!")  ;-)

Re: [Finale] The last system and measure width lock

2005-07-14 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Jul 13, 2005, at 4:27 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: David W. Fenton schrieb: 2. cautionary accidentals I thought they were locked in versions since about Fin2k. You can tell by a * appearing in the Speedy frame when the cursor is on that note (and pitch). This is pretty stable. In

[Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-14 Thread Colin Broom
Hooray! Sparks flying on the Finale list! :) To be honest, I never fail to be somewhat amused at the fact that complaints about non-Finale-related thread inevitably result in threads even longer than the ones complained about. I too am very much in the if you don't like it, you don't have to

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 14, 2005, at 5:38 AM, dhbailey wrote: Well, let me qualify that -- the sounds are unsatisfying, even if not having to deal with all the egos and attitude problems often present in human orchestras makes working at my computer that much more enjoyable! ;-) Heh, heh! Have you read

Re: [Finale] Dare I?? O.T.

2005-07-14 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 14, 2005, at 6:15 AM, dhbailey wrote: Okay, what's the term for words which are originally antonyms but which in certain situations mean the same thing? Example: Cool, HotThat's really cool! That's really hot! (both meaning essentially that's really phat!) ;-) Or, That

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Andrew Stiller
68: It is impossible to have two brackets of the same type in different horizontal positions, as for example when a divided string section uses extra staves. This is still fiddly to do, and we should have better automatic support for it. Fiddly is a bit euphemistic. At least as of Sib.

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread John Wyman
I talked with a rep at MakeMusic yesterday about the absence of saxophones in the GPO set that come with 2006. There will be none in the full version of GPO either, for saxophones one must purchase the jazz GPO package. Can this be a blessing in disguise?John WymanI have just one question

RE: [Finale] Dare I?? O.T.

2005-07-14 Thread Joel Sears
In a jazz context, That band really sucks means a band that's so bad it can't blow. No other meaning. Joel Sears -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:25 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re:

Re: [Finale] Dare I?? O.T.

2005-07-14 Thread Raymond Horton
Joel Sears wrote: In a jazz context, "That band really sucks" means a band that's so bad it can't blow. No other meaning. Joel Sears On Jul 14, 2005, at 6:15 AM, dhbailey wrote: Okay, what's the term for words which are originally antonyms but which in certain situations mean

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
How does one access the smartmusic soundfount for playback (not through the internal speaker) with Mac Fin 04c? Dean On Jul 14, 2005, at 2:31 AM, dhbailey wrote: ronan wrote: Oh well. At least Tyler's review in another post leaves me hopeful that playback in Fin2006 using GPO will be at

Re: [Finale] USB MIDI Interface (was: Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!)

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 1:20, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 13 Jul 2005, at 10:19 PM, Rocky Road wrote: Are you sure about this? MIDI's 1980 technology is so slow Not *that* slow. Right, and the issue is not the amount of data that MIDI produces, but coordination of the MIDI data with the

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 1:23, Darcy James Argue wrote: If you don't have an OpenGL-compatible graphics card with at least 32 MB of video RAM, Sibelius redraws will be painfully slow. Could that be the problem? I corresponded at length with the same very nice Sibelius employee who annotated the

Re: [Finale] USB MIDI Interface (was: Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!)

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 14 Jul 2005, at 1:45 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: That would suggest that each USB device adds its own timecode to the data. If it didn't, the hub shouldn't be causing any bottlenecks, because in computer terms, there really *isn't* much data involved. Hi David, My understanding is that a

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 14 Jul 2005, at 1:52 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Nonetheless, the competitor program, Finale, exhibits no such problems. That's because Finale doesn't use OpenGL-enhanced drawing. If you have an OpenGL-compatible video card, drawing in Sib 3 is virtually instantaneous, and drawing in Sib

Re: [Finale] Dare I?? O.T.

2005-07-14 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 14, 2005, at 6:15 AM, dhbailey wrote: Okay, what's the term for words which are originally antonyms but which in certain situations mean the same thing? Example: Cool, HotThat's really cool! That's really hot! (both meaning essentially that's really phat!) ;-) Try this on

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 6:12, dhbailey wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: Great work! Thanks for this; it is indeed point by point and extremely detailed. Of course, given the source, some points will bear confirmation, but it was good to see someone who knows the present version of the

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 7:36, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 06:12 AM 07/14/2005, dhbailey wrote: Compare that with MakeMusic's official disregard for this list and how we have to look out for each other. On the other hand, Coda does provide forums (as does Sibelius) which are officially monnitored.

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread A-NO-NE Music
David W. Fenton / 2005/07/14 / 01:52 PM wrote: Nonetheless, the competitor program, Finale, exhibits no such problems. It used to. I remember painful redraw slowness prior to FinMac3, and there was an option to turn off redraw until you ask for it. ProComp had much faster redraw back then, but

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 10:36, Andrew Stiller wrote: Another Sibelius flaw, unmentioned in the long list quoted in this thread, is its inability (as of Sib. 3) to break secondary beams. To me this is a deal breaker all by itself, though I do keep a copy of the program to edit the occasional

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 14:00, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 14 Jul 2005, at 1:52 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Nonetheless, the competitor program, Finale, exhibits no such problems. That's because Finale doesn't use OpenGL-enhanced drawing. If you have an OpenGL-compatible video card, drawing

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 14:13, A-NO-NE Music wrote: David W. Fenton / 2005/07/14 / 01:52 PM wrote: Nonetheless, the competitor program, Finale, exhibits no such problems. It used to. I remember painful redraw slowness prior to FinMac3, and there was an option to turn off redraw until you ask

Re: [Finale] USB MIDI Interface (was: Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!)

2005-07-14 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 14, 2005, at 1:45 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 14 Jul 2005 at 1:20, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 13 Jul 2005, at 10:19 PM, Rocky Road wrote: Are you sure about this? MIDI's 1980 technology is so slow Not *that* slow. Right, and the issue is not the amount of data that MIDI produces,

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 14 Jul 2005, at 2:13 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/14 / 02:00 PM wrote: If you have an OpenGL-compatible video card, drawing in Sib 3 is virtually instantaneous, and drawing in Sib 4 is still very good. (There are some slowdowns when you have to actually adjust

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:06 PM 07/14/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: Back in the Randy Stokes days, we had somebody like that, but who also was one of the programmers and could give technical explanations for problems. Boy, but I do miss Randy. Having him around really increased my confidence in Finale. And it seems

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 14 Jul 2005, at 2:18 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: That's because Finale doesn't use OpenGL-enhanced drawing. If you have an OpenGL-compatible video card, drawing in Sib 3 is virtually instantaneous, and drawing in Sib 4 is still very good. (There are some slowdowns when you have to actually

[Finale] Mass copy [was: the last system and measure width lock}

2005-07-14 Thread Ken Moore
David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I wish there were a number of things that could be locked and not changed: 1. manual spacing 2. cautionary accidentals 3. manual beaming breaks All of these edits, despite my having explicitly told Finale I want to override the defaults, are

RE: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread ronan
Here's the list of strings that I took directly from MaekMusic!'s site. With Finale: Viola Solo Viola: Player 1 Viola: Player 2 Viola: : Player 3 Cello: : Modern Solo Cello: : Player 1 Cello: : Player 2 Cello: : Player 3 Bass: : Solo Bass: Player 1 Solo Bass: Player 2 Bass: Player 2

[Finale] Staff Name Font

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
How do I change the font for all existing staff names simultaneously? Changing the default font only affects newly created staff names, not the ones already entered. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Dean M. Estabrook schrieb: How does one access the smartmusic soundfount for playback (not through the internal speaker) with Mac Fin 04c? Not sure how you mean. Where would the sound come out if not the internal speaker? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
David W. Fenton schrieb: Secondly, the implementation of default beaming rules is exactly what I've always requested for Finale. Finale works a lot better since the implementation of classic 8ths into the basic beaming algorithm, but it still doesn't properly beam smaller subdivisions (at

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Darcy James Argue / 2005/07/14 / 02:33 PM wrote: Hiro, I don't think you understood what I meant. Ha-ha. I did it again. I reread it and you are right I got it backward. Sorry about that. By the way, in general, the difference between OGL app and non-OGL app is CPU hit rather than GUI

RE: [Finale] Staff Name Font

2005-07-14 Thread Fisher, Allen
Darcy-- The Global Staff Attributes PI should do the job. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darcy James Argue Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 1:44 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Staff Name Font How do I change the font for

Re: [Finale] Staff Name Font

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 14 Jul 2005, at 3:06 PM, Fisher, Allen wrote: Darcy-- The Global Staff Attributes PI should do the job. Allen Thanks! BTW -- have you guys considered folding some of these plugin items into the regular menus? You could just borrow the code from the Global Staff Attributes PI and make

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Tyler Turner
--- David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in the Randy Stokes days, we had somebody like that, but who also was one of the programmers and could give technical explanations for problems. Boy, but I do miss Randy. Having him around really increased my confidence in Finale.

RE: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Fisher, Allen
Nope. Randy's still here. He just does more lurking (:-P) these days. A -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Sherber Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 1:36 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius At 02:06 PM

RE: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Fisher, Allen
Ah, but you can cycle through overlapping elements with the +/- keys in the selection tool... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 3:20 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale]

Re: [Finale] Mass copy [was: the last system and measure width lock}

2005-07-14 Thread James Gilbert
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Ken Moore wrote: Not quite the same, but reading this reminded me of it: I use dotted quarter rests in 6/8, 9/8 and 12/8, because I think it makes it easier to see where the beats are. Whenever I copy a measure, Finale turns each of these into a quarter plus an eighth.

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 14 Jul 2005, at 3:18 PM, Fisher, Allen wrote: Ah, but you can cycle through overlapping elements with the +/- keys in the selection tool... Yes, but Allen, as you know, the selection tool has been so slow as to be completely useless on MacFin since 2k4. It's faster to just drag

RE: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Tyler Turner
Or just by clicking them again. --- Fisher, Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, but you can cycle through overlapping elements with the +/- keys in the selection tool... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Hindson Fastmail

Re: [Finale] Mass copy [was: the last system and measure width lock}

2005-07-14 Thread Michael Cook
I know this is annoying. Two things can help: 1. If you make sure that you copy whole measures, with no partial measure selection, Finale should copy the measures exactly as you wrote them. 2. Go to Options Quantization Settings and click on More Settings. Here you will find the option Allow

[Finale] Finale in education in the States (Was: Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?)

2005-07-14 Thread Michael L. Meyer
On 7/14/05 9:08 AM, Colin Broom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be interested in hearing more about Finale in education elsewhere. I've always had this (probably largely unfounded) idea that Finale is for the most part still the prominent product in the States, is this true? Colin. Based on

RE: [Finale] Mass copy [was: the last system and measure width lock}

2005-07-14 Thread Lee Actor
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Ken Moore wrote: Not quite the same, but reading this reminded me of it: I use dotted quarter rests in 6/8, 9/8 and 12/8, because I think it makes it easier to see where the beats are. Whenever I copy a measure, Finale turns each of these into a quarter plus an

RE: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-14 Thread keith helgesen
In the Australian Army Band circles Sibelius is, I understand, the primary system- but Finale is available. Most schools I know of here in Canberra use Sibelius- I am regularly told it is more user friendly. Anyone who learns at school or in the Army is almost certainly going to stay with that

RE: [Finale] Mass copy [was: the last system and measure width lock}

2005-07-14 Thread keith helgesen
Excuse a bunny daring to offer an answer- but I found Finale will not believe, as described, if in select partial measures' (edit menu) mode. It works for me with dotted v tied notes, but I don't know about rests. (I haven't got Finale handy to check up!) Click alt.e.m. (with no dots) before

[Finale] Anyone else have playback issues on FinMac 2005?

2005-07-14 Thread Stephen Peters
Lately my FinMac 2005b installation has seriously been acting up when it comes to playback. After running for a while, it will suddenly decide to stop playing anything, either when I hit play or use Opt-Space-Drag to listen to a preview. During playback, the little green bar will move across the

Re: [Finale] Anyone else have playback issues on FinMac 2005?

2005-07-14 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 14, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Stephen Peters wrote: Lately my FinMac 2005b installation has seriously been acting up when it comes to playback. After running for a while, it will suddenly decide to stop playing anything, either when I hit play or use Opt-Space-Drag to listen to a preview.

[Finale] Controlled accel.

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
Ever since the unfortunate demise of JW Tempo for Mac, I've been looking for an easy way to tell Finale Change smoothly from q=X to q=Y over Z number of measures. I know tempo improvements are coming in Fin2k6, but is there any *easy* way to do this in FinMac2k5? (And just in case, using

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-14 Thread m_lawlor
Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Sibelius discussion was directly related to the future of Finale and the kind of features and approach we'd like to see Finale emulate… And why is it always the lurkers who never contribute solutions to Finale problems (or contribute to the

RE: [Finale] Controlled accel.

2005-07-14 Thread Lee Actor
Ever since the unfortunate demise of JW Tempo for Mac, I've been looking for an easy way to tell Finale Change smoothly from q=X to q=Y over Z number of measures. I know tempo improvements are coming in Fin2k6, but is there any *easy* way to do this in FinMac2k5? (And just in case, using

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Gerhard Torges, geb. Hölscher
Hello Tyler, Am 14.07.2005 um 21:15 schrieb Tyler Turner: Part of the nice thing about the forum is that the organization into threads makes it much easier to browse through and quickly see where your input is beneficial and skip over the stuff where you aren't needed. You can get the

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Gerhard Torges, geb. Hölscher
Hello Darcy, Am 14.07.2005 um 08:04 schrieb Darcy James Argue: 14 Clunky text selection for expressions etc. I assume this is a complaint about our word menu system (where you right-click during text input for a useful menu of terms to input into the score). This is actually pretty

Re: [Finale] Controlled accel.

2005-07-14 Thread Tyler Turner
Human Playback usually does it pretty well. Just make sure to have an expression at the end set to the desired target tempo, and put the accel expression where you want it to start. Tyler --- Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since the unfortunate demise of JW Tempo for Mac,

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Tyler Turner
--- Gerhard Torges, geb. Hölscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Tyler, Am 14.07.2005 um 21:15 schrieb Tyler Turner: Part of the nice thing about the forum is that the organization into threads makes it much easier to browse through and quickly see where your input is beneficial

Re: [Finale] Is this a Finale or Sibelius list?

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Colin Broom wrote: [snip] I'd be interested in hearing more about Finale in education elsewhere. I've always had this (probably largely unfounded) idea that Finale is for the most part still the prominent product in the States, is this true? The brand new high school plus the rebuilt older

Re: [Finale] USB MIDI Interface (was: Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!)

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 14:31, Christopher Smith wrote: I don't have a hub. All I have (right now) is my MIDI interface plugged into one of the two available USB ports in the back of the Mac G4, and my keyboard plugged into the USB port for that purpose on the back of my Apple Cinema Display. There

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 14:36, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 02:06 PM 07/14/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: Back in the Randy Stokes days, we had somebody like that, but who also was one of the programmers and could give technical explanations for problems. Boy, but I do miss Randy. Having him around

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 14:37, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 14 Jul 2005, at 2:18 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: That's because Finale doesn't use OpenGL-enhanced drawing. If you have an OpenGL-compatible video card, drawing in Sib 3 is virtually instantaneous, and drawing in Sib 4 is still very

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 14:37, Darcy James Argue wrote: When Sib3 first came out, there was a discussion on this list of the effectively instantaneous graphics-card assisted redraw. Several PC users downloaded the demo and reported the same results. Um, the Sibelius 3 demo is FINE on my PC --

Re: [Finale] Controlled accel.

2005-07-14 Thread John Bell
On 15 Jul 2005, at 00:45, Tyler Turner wrote:Human Playback usually does it pretty well. Just makesure to have an _expression_ at the end set to thedesired target tempo, and put the accel _expression_where you want it to start.I don't understand how to do this. Target tempo, OK, but how do I

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 12:15, Tyler Turner wrote: I'll be honest. When I was working as an employee of MakeMusic, I tried to keep up with this list so I could comment when needed. But boy, there are so many e-mails going through here every day that keeping up here meant not being able to keep up

Re: [Finale] Mass copy [was: the last system and measure width lock}

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 21:39, Michael Cook wrote: I know this is annoying. Two things can help: 1. If you make sure that you copy whole measures, with no partial measure selection, Finale should copy the measures exactly as you wrote them. 2. Go to Options Quantization Settings and click on

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread John Bell
On 15 Jul 2005, at 02:11, David W. Fenton wrote:I would think that MakeMusic would want someone's job description to  include monitoring this list, in any case. There are too many heavy  hitters here to ignore, in my opinion. SecondedJohn___ Finale

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 15 Jul 2005 at 1:25, Gerhard Torges, geb. Hölscher wrote: Am 14.07.2005 um 08:04 schrieb Darcy James Argue: 14 Clunky text selection for expressions etc. I assume this is a complaint about our word menu system (where you right-click during text input for a useful menu of terms to

Re: [Finale] USB MIDI Interface (was: Sibelius version 4 has dynamic score/parts linking!)

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi David, That probably wouldn't work. IIRC, the USB port on the Apple keyboard is only designed to take 1.5 Mb/s devices (like a mouse). - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 14 Jul 2005, at 8:59 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 14 Jul 2005 at 14:31, Christopher Smith wrote: I

Re: [Finale] Controlled accel.

2005-07-14 Thread Tyler Turner
--- John Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 00:45, Tyler Turner wrote: Human Playback usually does it pretty well. Just make sure to have an expression at the end set to the desired target tempo, and put the accel expression where you want it to start. I don't

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Tyler Turner
--- David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I don't find this at all difficult in the Sibelius 4 demo. I can select and entire measure and apply an articulation to all notes. Of I can click a note and then shift-click any additional notes, then apply an articulation. This

Re: [Finale] Controlled accel.

2005-07-14 Thread John Bell
On 15 Jul 2005, at 02:28, Tyler Turner wrote: --- John Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 00:45, Tyler Turner wrote: Human Playback usually does it pretty well. Just make sure to have an expression at the end set to the desired target tempo, and put the accel

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Jul 2005 at 18:31, Tyler Turner wrote: --- David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I don't find this at all difficult in the Sibelius 4 demo. I can select and entire measure and apply an articulation to all notes. Of I can click a note and then shift-click any

Re: [Finale] Anyone else have playback issues on FinMac 2005?

2005-07-14 Thread Rich Caldwell
I had this problem when HP was introduced, and reported it, but it remains an issue in 2005 (Mac). I have found no consistent way to get it to play. I think it's merely chance, so I just keep hitting the play button until I get a pass that will play. It'll happen, but it might take a

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
John Wyman wrote: I talked with a rep at MakeMusic yesterday about the absence of saxophones in the GPO set that come with 2006. There will be none in the full version of GPO either, for saxophones one must purchase the jazz GPO package. Can this be a blessing in disguise? Oh,

Re: [Finale] Dare I?? O.T.

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Raymond Horton wrote: Joel Sears wrote: In a jazz context, That band really sucks means a band that's so bad it can't blow. No other meaning. Joel Sears On Jul 14, 2005, at 6:15 AM, dhbailey wrote: Okay, what's the term for words which are originally antonyms but which in certain

Re: [Finale] Controlled accel.

2005-07-14 Thread Rich Caldwell
I've had mixed success with accel. rit. markings. Sometimes it works fairly well. Other times, it does nothing. Most of the time, it doesn't make a smooth transition from one tempo to the new tempo. Perhaps it doesn't work well over short distances (2 measures or less?), with changes

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 02:06 PM 07/14/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: Back in the Randy Stokes days, we had somebody like that, but who also was one of the programmers and could give technical explanations for problems. Boy, but I do miss Randy. Having him around really increased my

Re: [Finale] Mass copy [was: the last system and measure width lock}

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Ken Moore wrote: David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I wish there were a number of things that could be locked and not changed: 1. manual spacing 2. cautionary accidentals 3. manual beaming breaks All of these edits, despite my having explicitly told Finale I want to

Re: [Finale] comparing finale/sibelius

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
David, You don't have to use partial measure selection, *or* the apply articulation dialog. In the articulation tool, hold down the metatool for the articulation you want, and then just drag enclose the notes you want. I only wish note expressions worked like this too. - Darcy -

Re: [Finale] Anyone else have playback issues on FinMac 2005?

2005-07-14 Thread James E. Bailey
Gosh, I was going to write, I have the same problem finmac2k4. I thought it was because I have first gen harman kardon soundsticks, but maybe not. I guess I'll just go back to not worrying about it. Am 14.07.2005 um 15:39 schrieb Stephen Peters: Lately my FinMac 2005b installation has

Re: [Finale] Staff Name Font

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: How do I change the font for all existing staff names simultaneously? Changing the default font only affects newly created staff names, not the ones already entered. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: Dean M. Estabrook schrieb: How does one access the smartmusic soundfount for playback (not through the internal speaker) with Mac Fin 04c? Not sure how you mean. Where would the sound come out if not the internal speaker? Johannes The line-out jack. -- David

Re: [Finale] Dare I?? O.T.

2005-07-14 Thread James E. Bailey
I think the word is slang Am 14.07.2005 um 19:05 schrieb dhbailey: Raymond Horton wrote: Joel Sears wrote: In a jazz context, That band really sucks means a band that's so bad it can't blow. No other meaning. Joel Sears On Jul 14, 2005, at 6:15 AM, dhbailey wrote: Okay, what's the term

Re: [Finale] Mass copy [was: the last system and measure width lock}

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
Lee Actor wrote: [snip] Something that bothers me is when Finale combines rests on a partial measure copy. For example, if I copy a beat consisting of two 16th notes surrounding two 16th rests, Finale will combine the rests into a single 8th rest. This annoying behavior doesn't occur when

Re: [Finale] Staff Name Font

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 14 Jul 2005, at 10:16 PM, dhbailey wrote: Can't you use the Swap Fonts function? No. Or does that do it for every instance of a given font in a file? Yes. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] 2006/GPO

2005-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 14 Jul 2005, at 10:04 PM, dhbailey wrote: John Wyman wrote: I talked with a rep at MakeMusic yesterday about the absence of saxophones in the GPO set that come with 2006. There will be none in the full version of GPO either, for saxophones one must purchase the jazz GPO package. Can this

Re: [Finale] Controlled accel.

2005-07-14 Thread dhbailey
John Bell wrote: On 15 Jul 2005, at 00:45, Tyler Turner wrote: Human Playback usually does it pretty well. Just make sure to have an expression at the end set to the desired target tempo, and put the accel expression where you want it to start. I don't understand how to do this. Target

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