On Jun 20, 2007, at 7:31 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
I recently did a rather conservative hymn-like choral setting, and
adding a extra eighth note to one of the verses (multiple verses
stacked below one staff) proved to be a real kludge in Finale! The
extra eighth note was reduced in size
Christopher, my personal likes and needs- and yours, are precisely the
point!
As I said in my original post- (which sparked Denis's response which created
this thread)- I do not want or need anything more complex than Fin 2001 for
my usage.
My son has a watch which tells the time- in all time zones
On Wed Jun 20 21:00:48 CDT 2007, Christopher Smith wrote:
You are right of course, that nobody wants to sacrifice the
versatility of the notation that Finale offers for sequencing
features, BUT...
("everyone has a big BUT" Pee Wee Herman)
Finale COULD do much better transcribing MIDI files.
On Wed Jun 20 12:05:33 CDT 2007 John Howell wrote:
I'm wondering if I'm just ignorant of a few things. This is the
first time ever that I've seen the words "opening a case" in regard
to MakeMusic. And I've gotten the distinct impression that MakeMusic
does not operate on the basis of "vote-a-f
>And before anyone gets started on MIDI files not being
>notation and so has no real place in a notation program, well,
>there are a whole cartload of MIDI transcriptionists who spend
>a large part of their day getting MIDI files from composers
>and turning them into notation to be read by li
On Jun 20, 2007, at 7:37 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jun 20, 2007, at 10:28 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
Or, as a jazz player would say "the notes you don't play are as
important as the ones you do."
:)
Was it Dizzy Gillespie who said something like this about Miles Davis?
"I like the
On Jun 20, 2007, at 10:28 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
Or, as a jazz player would say "the notes you don't play are as
important as the ones you do."
:)
Was it Dizzy Gillespie who said something like this about Miles Davis?
"I like the notes he plays well enough, but it's the notes he DOESN'T
On Jun 20, 2007, at 7:09 PM, keith helgesen wrote:
Your site simply proves my point.
I freely admit I like music in straight lines!
Well, your (or my) personal likes are not really the point. A bunch
of us who use Finale need to be able to accommodate odd requests from
composers we don't
Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jun 20, 2007, at 8:59 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
Christopher Smith wrote:
On 20.06.2007 Bob Florence wrote:
Do you all know the term "underscore" as used on a computer
keyboard.
I do. However, a friend told me he always had trouble using this one.
It's shift dash_
On Jun 20, 2007, at 8:59 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
Christopher Smith wrote:
On 20.06.2007 Bob Florence wrote:
Do you all know the term "underscore" as used on a computer
keyboard.
I do. However, a friend told me he always had trouble using
this one.
It's shift dash_. I want to use this in
On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:05 PM, John Howell wrote:
And I might also observe that Finale is primarily a notation
program, while MIDI is a set of performance standards. Finale does
not pretend to be a full-featured sequencer, and MIDI was not
designed to produce notation. (Same is true of S
Your site simply proves my point.
I freely admit I like music in straight lines!
I don't want or need staggered barlines, or the various geegaws(?) you
mention. Stockhausen? Who?
Un-metered music? Not my scene- and I suspect that there are a lot of
Finale-ists out there who would never use 'circles
Christopher Smith wrote:
On 20.06.2007 Bob Florence wrote:
Do you all know the term "underscore" as used on a computer keyboard.
I do. However, a friend told me he always had trouble using this one.
It's shift dash_. I want to use this in my e mail address.
Heh, heh, I think I know why he
Rob Deemer wrote:
The request for new topics plus the fact that there's a Mythbusters
marathon
going on got me thinking about confirming or busting a notation myth. I've
heard many composers state that composing/arranging on paper with pencil is
not only preferable but artistically "better" than
At 10:58 AM -0700 6/20/07, Bob Florence wrote:
Do you all know the term "underscore" as used on a computer keyboard.
I do. However, a friend told me he always had trouble using this one.
It's shift dash_. I want to use this in my e mail address.
And the question is?
John
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At 12:21 PM -0500 6/20/07, Rob Deemer wrote:
The request for new topics plus the fact that there's a Mythbusters marathon
going on got me thinking about confirming or busting a notation myth. I've
heard many composers state that composing/arranging on paper with pencil is
not only preferable but
At 1:32 PM -0700 6/19/07, Bob Morabito wrote:
Again, Ryan W. (who ALSO wants this feature added, and who has kindly
supplied this info thru my online case)) has told me, that to make
the feature request vote official, people would need to submit it by
opening a case online or call.
I'm wonderi
Finale 2001 certainly has staff styles! Used a lot too!
Cheers
Keith Helgesen.
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I have used Finale since version 2.0.1 for Mac in early 1990. From what I've
seen, Finale is the most versatile notation software ever. Even Sibelius --
Finale's closest competitor -- can't compare to Finale's overall
flexibility.
All software involves kludges in order to perform certain specializ
Transcription?
Hyperscribe?
Can I route different hardware controllers (i.e., mod wheelm sliders) to
different CCs?
Help please!
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I've found it prefereable to go back and forth between pencil-and-paper on
one hand, and the computer on the other. There's no point to requiring a
computer in the formative stages of a work as a pencil can still do some
things the computer can't. Computers impose a certain formality that is
not al
On 20.06.2007 Bob Florence wrote:
Do you all know the term "underscore" as used on a computer
keyboard.
I do. However, a friend told me he always had trouble using this
one.
It's shift dash_. I want to use this in my e mail address.
Heh, heh, I think I know why he wants to do this. He
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 20.06.2007 Bob Florence wrote:
Do you all know the term "underscore" as used on a computer keyboard.
I do. However, a friend told me he always had trouble using this one.
It's shift dash_. I want to use this in my e mail address.
A long time ago I had a compuserve
At 08:00 PM 6/20/2007 +0200, Daniel Wolf wrote:
>Dennis wrote:
>
>"A score is a score."
>
>Dennis, with all due respect, this is not the case. We ask scores to
>perform a variety of very different tasks -- prescriptive, descriptive,
>and analytical -- and do so in ways that are often contradicto
On Jun 20, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Rob Deemer wrote:
The request for new topics plus the fact that there's a Mythbusters
marathon
going on got me thinking about confirming or busting a notation
myth. I've
heard many composers state that composing/arranging on paper with
pencil is
not only prefe
On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Rob Deemer wrote:
The request for new topics plus the fact that there's a Mythbusters
marathon
going on got me thinking about confirming or busting a notation
myth. I've
heard many composers state that composing/arranging on paper with
pencil is
not only prefer
At 12:21 PM 6/20/2007 -0500, Rob Deemer wrote:
>The request for new topics plus the fact that there's a Mythbusters marathon
>going on got me thinking about confirming or busting a notation myth. I've
>heard many composers state that composing/arranging on paper with pencil is
>not only preferable
Dennis wrote:
"A score is a score."
Dennis, with all due respect, this is not the case. We ask scores to
perform a variety of very different tasks -- prescriptive, descriptive,
and analytical -- and do so in ways that are often contradictory. For
example, the horizontal spacing of notes may
Undubitably, from a statistical point of view, the vast majority of the
composers between 1650 and now did prefer pencil and paper...
:-)
More seriously: pen is a tool, rather simple; computer is a tool, a little
more complicated. I think it is very good (or necessary?) to be able to
compose only
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 20.06.2007 Bob Florence wrote:
Do you all know the term "underscore" as used on a computer keyboard.
I do. However, a friend told me he always had trouble using this one.
It's shift dash_. I want to use this in my e mail address.
A long time ago I had a compuserve
On 20.06.2007 Bob Florence wrote:
Do you all know the term "underscore" as used on a computer keyboard.
I do. However, a friend told me he always had trouble using this one.
It's shift dash_. I want to use this in my e mail address.
A long time ago I had a compuserve address, which began J_Ge
Do you all know the term "underscore" as used on a computer keyboard.
I do. However, a friend told me he always had trouble using this one.
It's shift dash_. I want to use this in my e mail address.
Bob F.
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The request for new topics plus the fact that there's a Mythbusters marathon
going on got me thinking about confirming or busting a notation myth. I've
heard many composers state that composing/arranging on paper with pencil is
not only preferable but artistically "better" than composing directly
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
[snip]
You know -- and this is another topic -- that the limitations of tools
often contribute to corresponding limitations of the art in the hands of
those without vision or determination. My problem with the software is not
so much my problem, but my problem with th
At 10:23 AM 6/20/2007 -0400, dhbailey wrote:
>That someone could engrave such a score by hand 45 years ago by no means
>proves that the vast majority of human engravers at the time would have
>been able to do that. It just means that one person could. And was it
>engraved or was it lithographe
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 09:15 AM 6/20/2007 -0400, dhbailey wrote:
I'll bet that if you submitted that circular score to most
human engravers, they also would be unable to engrave it. It is a
graphic design issue, not a notation engraving issue.
They're integral. The separation is arti
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
[snip]
Anyway, that circular Stockhausen was done by his team more than 45 years
ago...
That someone could engrave such a score by hand 45 years ago by no means
proves that the vast majority of human engravers at the time would have
been able to do that. It just
Hi, this seems to be a rather severe bug that almost got me bad.
In FinMac2007c, I create a score using the Setup Wizard, entering
notes and saving as I go.
From the File menu I select Save Special>Save as Audio File, then I
hit MP3 and navigate to the same folder as the file is in.
Somet
At 09:15 AM 6/20/2007 -0400, dhbailey wrote:
>I'll bet that if you submitted that circular score to most
>human engravers, they also would be unable to engrave it. It is a
>graphic design issue, not a notation engraving issue.
They're integral. The separation is artificial and underscored by Fi
At 08:45 AM 6/20/2007 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote:
>Part of the problem with "wish lists" of features is how to implement
>them, because implementation IS the feature.
>As you have mentioned so often, the UI is so much of the program that
>a LOT of time and planning have to be spent to make
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
At 06:40 AM 6/20/2007 -0400, dhbailey wrote:
But in general, the notation aspects of Finale are very mature and there
isn't all that much room for improvement.
Whaaa?
Please do me this:
http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/music/waam/lunar-cascade-june.pdf
(
On Jun 20, 2007, at 8:29 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
beaming over barlines (why
shouldn't the Speedy "/" just toggle that natively?)
Say, that's pretty smart!
Part of the problem with "wish lists" of features is how to implement
them, because implementation IS the feature.
(Kind of h
At 06:40 AM 6/20/2007 -0400, dhbailey wrote:
>But in general, the notation aspects of Finale are very mature and there
>isn't all that much room for improvement.
Whaaa?
Please do me this:
http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/music/waam/lunar-cascade-june.pdf
(Yeah, I had one day both to c
Mark D Lew wrote:
On Jun 19, 2007, at 4:51 PM, keith helgesen wrote:
I am sure there are quite a few people like me out there in Finale-land
still happily using WinFin 2001 or earlier. I seem to recall someone
asking
a question on Fin 97!
Well, I'm not *that* far behind, but I'm in complet
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