Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010

[Girard Bowe]

Hi, Jef - I made the same upgrade from 2010 to 2012 without any problems. I
was on WinXP at the time, then migrated to a new box with Win7. The updater
caused no problems. I mostly do horn charts & transcriptions - no lyrics.

Giz

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|SN jef chippewa
|Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:04 AM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010
|
|
|carl, i am about to upgrade a few things, including finale, and wonder if
you could
|tell me what you found so disastrous moving from
|2010 to 2012 (which is what i would be doing soon).
|
|At 17:59 -0700 4/16/12, dershem wrote:
|>I still get some good stuff from the list, even though I went back to
|>Finale 2010b after 2012 being such a disaster.
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2013

[Girard Bowe]

Might not be a bad idea to reiterate (on Justin's blog comments) some of the 
bug fixes and features we've been requesting. Here's a few off the top of my 
head:

In JazzFont, the dot in the dotted eighth rest is too far separated from the 
rest. Changing the spacing in Document Options then results in a dot too close 
to a quarter rest.

Checking Avoid Collisions of chord symbols can result in some very ugly spacing 
issues.

When using the Chord Tool, I have to right-click twice to get an arrow instead 
of the chord pointer ( I hope I'm explaining this clearly). Makes it very 
clunky when I want to change tools.

Can we get a decent looking letter Z in the JazzFont? 

How about a JazzFont version of the Bill Duncan chord library?

Giz



|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Eric Dannewitz
|Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:50 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2013
|
|Good. MakeMusic finally sees that they need to fix things rather than just 
making
|everyone pay for the next version and maybe fixing stuff.



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Re: [Finale] Finale Windows 2011 - problems in part extraction

[Girard Bowe]

I use linked parts, and this sometimes happens. I just select everything,
then Break Multimeasure Rests, then Create Multimeasure Rests. This has
always fixed "missing" measures. I don't know if this will work in extracted
parts.

BTW, linked parts is probably my favorite upgrade improvement. I don't miss
extracting parts AT ALL.

Giz


|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Marcello Noia
|Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 9:16 AM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale Windows 2011 - problems in part extraction
|
|Driving me crazy...
|I extracted all parts and each one jumps from bar 121 to bar 132 (that is
the last
|one of the piece) What happened to the bars in the gap? The main score is
|complete. 

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Re: [Finale] Finale Windows 2011 - problems in part extraction

[Girard Bowe]

You'll have to create 3 text inserts in the score:   page number, part/score
name, and title. For each insert, from the Text menu, select Frame
Attributes. You'll probably want to set up different inserts for the first
page and subsequent pages. If you set this up in your template, you'll save
yourself loads of time for future pieces.

If you want, I can send you a pdf of a horn chart to see what this looks
like.

Giz

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Marcello Noia
|Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:39 AM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale Windows 2011 - problems in part extraction
|
|Another little thing I did not get is to have part name in all pages of the
linked
|parts, kind of "page 2 - Tenor sax - Night and day" 

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Re: [Finale] chord chart slash spacing

[Girard Bowe]

The reason I don't usually include chords in the music spacing is the very
ugly way it affects notation. 

This is the way Don describes it:  "My recollection of chord spacing is that
a chord taking up a lot of horizontal space wouldn't 'ride' over the next
item in the measure w/out a chord, but push it to the end of the space taken
by that chord, similar to the way lyrics used to space."

I've created 2 small PNG files to illustrate, but was unsure about sending
them as attachments to the list. Let me know if you'd like to see 'em. I
would love to see this fixed or improved in Fin2013.

Beat spacing (Ctrl-5) may help spacing for slash measures.

Giz
Richmond VA



|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Jari Williamsson
|Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:00 AM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] chord chart slash spacing
|
|Is there any specific reason why you don't include chords in the music
spacing
|options?
|
|I think your solution of putting rests for spacing purposes is an excellent
solution.
|That gives you the ability to control the width and chord placement quite
well. If
|you need more space in some part of the measure, insert rests at half the
|duration and put twice as many rest for that part of the measure. 

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Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes

[Girard Bowe]

I print-screened the chord suffix selection pages and keep them at hand. I
have the most common ones memorized. If you load different chord libraries,
or delete chords, that will affect the numbering.

Giz
Richmond VA

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Chuck Israels
|Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 3:06 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes
|
|Hi Doug,
|
|I do remember I used to do it this way, but it stopped working when I
forgot that I
|needed to include the colon.  Thanks for the reminder.  This can be quicker
if you
|memorize the slots for complex suffixes, so I will find this useful for
things like
|7#5#9 too.
|
|Thanks again,
|
|Chuck
|
|
|
|
|On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Doug Walter  wrote:
|
|> Hi Chuck and Mike,
|>
|> While this won't solve the underlying issue you're both talking about, I
thought
|it would be worth mentioning another input method that can work in these
|situations that doesn't require using the mouse (which you may already know
|about). The drag is that is requires memorizing the suffix's placement in
the
|library - the number of the "box" that it occupies (assuming the suffix
exists
|already, of course).
|>
|> While in "Type into Score", you type the letter name of the root,
followed by a
|colon, followed by the number of the "slot" from the library (e.g. my
"add9"
|happens to be in slot 22, so if I type C:22 I get that symbol).
|>
|> If you don't have too many suffixes that you need to do this way, it's
not too
|cumbersome, although obviously it would be preferable to be able to just
type as
|we do for the other ones.
|>
|> Again, you probably know this already, but may not have had reason to use
it in
|this context.
|>
|> Doug
|>
|>
|> On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Chuck Israels wrote:
|>
|>> I have a similar problem with sus4 suffixes.  I assumed that it was
because of
|the special keystrokes required to create the superscript text, key
combinations I
|don't have reason to remember after having created the suffixes I need.  I
always
|have to enter those suffixes by going into dialog boxes and selecting them.
If
|there is an easy "Type Into Score" method for this, I'd be grateful to know
it too.
|>>
|>> Chuck
|>>
|>>
|>> On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Mike Casteel  wrote:
|>>
|>>> Hello all,
|>>>
|>>> I have encountered a problem with Bill Duncan's ChordSuf font- namely
the
|(addX) suffix (it is not recognized, even if it is already in my library
when "typing
|into score"). I can create it easily if I enter it manually (in the chord
definition
|dialog box) but if I "type into score" it will not work. Nor will it work
if I create the
|suffix from scratch in the chord suffix editor window. In each of those
cases, I get
|unwanted characters. I suppose this has something to do with Finale's
Unicode
|font support?
|>>>
|>>> Has anyone encountered this specific problem and is there a way around
it?
|>>>
|>>> Many thanks!
|>>> Mike Casteel
|>>> ___
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|>>> Finale@shsu.edu
|>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
|>>
|>> Chuck Israels
|>> 8831 SE 12th Ave.
|>> Portland, OR 97202-7097
|>>
|>> land line: (503) 954-2107
|>> cell phone: (360) 201-3434
|>>
|>> 
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|
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Re: [Finale] [JWplugins] New accidental setting

[Girard Bowe]

Hi, Jari - this might be the place to renew a suggestion: how about a
plug-in that will apply document settings from one file to another? As I've
tweaked my personal templates over the years, I find myself re-doing older
files with my most recent file settings, a pains-taking project. These would
include basic text blocks & placement (title, page numbers, instrument,
date) and layout (system percentages, system & page margins.

Thanks again for all of your work and contributions!

Giz
Richmond VA

|-Original Message-
|From: JWplugins [mailto:jwplugins-boun...@jwmusic.nu] On Behalf Of Jari
|Williamsson
|Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:27 PM
|To: JW Freeware plug-ins for Finale
|Subject: Re: [JWplugins] New accidental setting
|
|Hello again!
|
|The reason I asked about the linked part before (regarding the cover page
idea), is
|because of the technical limitation text blocks and linked parts in Finale.
Text
|blocks can't be inserted to just one part (to display in just one part they
need to
|be hidden in all other
|parts/score) and it easily becomes a visual mess if (for example) the score
|contains a title page and the parts don't.
|
|I have a couple of old ideas that are related to your cover page template
idea
|(such as "table of contents" pages, custom page borders and text style
sheet). I
|personally too often resort to create information text pages in other
applications
|for my own material. Let's see if I can merge multiple ideas into one tool
in a
|future plug-in.
|
|
|Best regards,
|
|Jari Williamsson
|
|
|On 2013-03-20 20:20, Steve Vai wrote:
|> In regards to your question here, I saw this as a composer tool that lays
out a
|description cover page for a score. It would be a template of sorts that
would
|outline the instrumentation, percussion legends, Title, composer, is it a
concert or
|transposed score, special notes about performance or transposition,
copyright
|notice, composer, arranger and orchestrator info, date of completed
|composition, previous performances of composition or special credits such
as
|"This piece was commissioned by bla bla bla for bla bla bla, And perhaps
some
|graphics so the page isn't just dry text.
|> None of the above would be necessary for parts unless there is a specific
note
|for the performance of a particular instrument, then it could be
automatically
|linked to that particular part. One such thought on this is guitar
notation. People
|have different ideas of how to notate things on the guitar and an
explanation
|section in the score notes (this template) can be linked to the printed
guitar part.
|>
|> Thanks
|> s
|> On Mar 18, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
|>
|>>
|>> 8. Cover Page templates: Would be nice to have some pre-created cover
|>> page templates or a template you can fill in that would create a
|>> cover page that has instrumentation, composers notes, percussion
|>> legends etc. The only way I figured out how to do it now is to create
|>> a blank page and build something on it with the text tool. Finale
|>> redraws every letter sometimes, massive waste of time.
|>
|> Should this page be inserted to all linked parts?
|>
|>
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Re: [Finale] [JWplugins] New accidental setting

[Girard Bowe]

Hi, Steve -yes, I've looked at them, but neither seems to be able to apply
text inserts or layout preferences from one document to another. If I'm
missing something, please point me in the right direction!

Giz

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Fiskum, Steve
|Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:52 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] [JWplugins] New accidental setting
|
|Have you looked into TGTools and Robert Patterson's plugins? A lot of what
you
|are asking for can be found  in those plugins.
|
|Steve
|
|On Mar 21, 2013, at 4:45 PM, "Girard Bowe"  wrote:
|
|> Hi, Jari - this might be the place to renew a suggestion: how about a
|> plug-in that will apply document settings from one file to another? As
|> I've tweaked my personal templates over the years, I find myself
|> re-doing older files with my most recent file settings, a pains-taking
|> project. These would include basic text blocks & placement (title,
|> page numbers, instrument,
|> date) and layout (system percentages, system & page margins.
|> 


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Re: [Finale] [JWplugins] New accidental setting

[Girard Bowe]

Unfortunately, TGTools isn't updated through Fin2012. In looking at
Scrapbook, I don't see any settings for layouts. There is a feature for
staves, but it specifies scroll view.

Thanks anyway! I'm still hoping that Jari will be able to come up with a
comprehensive settings transfer.

Best regards,

Giz

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Fiskum, Steve
|Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:48 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] [JWplugins] New accidental setting
|
|Look at TGTools-Modify-Trasfer select tab Object for page text.
|
|In Patterson use either Scrapbook or TGTools Transfer for your layout
settings
|depending on how you have your files setup.
|
|Good luck.
|Steve
|
|On Mar 21, 2013, at 5:40 PM, "Girard Bowe"  wrote:
|
|> Hi, Steve -yes, I've looked at them, but neither seems to be able to
|> apply text inserts or layout preferences from one document to another.
|> If I'm missing something, please point me in the right direction!
|>
|> Giz 



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Re: [Finale] Hummingbird

[Girard Bowe]

Maybe it's my age, but it hardly seems simple or intuitive. And pity the
poor child who has to go into any musical situation knowing only
Hummingbird. If it takes months or longer to read conventional notation,
something is wrong somewhere.

Giz

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Richard Yates
|Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:12 AM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: [Finale] Hummingbird
|
|Anyone seen this: http://www.hummingbirdnotation.com/
|
|My first reaction is that, regardless of any merit, there is about zero
chance of
|such an initiative succeeding, but to even attempt it is interesting.
Shape-note,
|anyone? 


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Re: [Finale] F2012 HP doesn't apply swing timing to chord playback AND Garritan question

[Girard Bowe]

What I do is type the chord name followed by a colon, then the number of the
chord from Chord Suffix Selection. I've got a print-screen of these which I
keep at hand, although by now I have my most-used suffix numbers memorized.
It's a pretty quick process (chord entry), except that it's a pain because
the cursor seems stuck in chord entry mode.

I keep chord playback turned off - ALWAYS! If I need to put my horn parts in
harmonic context, I just enter the chord notes in the rhythm section staff.

I use playback mainly for aural spell-check, so I don't have to be too
particular about a comping style. If necessary, I enter them in rhythm and
it swings (or not!) properly - and I never use a swing value higher than 51.


And has anybody heard anything more atrocious than Finale's on-board
Garritan sounds for brass? Does Garritan JABB sound any better? If so, how
much tweaking is involved? Is there another jazz band sound option which
doesn't cost an arm and a leg? 

Giz
Richmond VA

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Craig Parmerlee
|Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:46 AM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] F2012 HP doesn't apply swing timing to chord playback
|
|I know what you are saying about the lack of voice leading of any fashion
on the
|chord playback.  But my biggest problem with chords is that I can't ever
figure out
|what bizarre spellings Finale expects of me when I type in chord names.  I
have
|been over the documentation several times and I can never make any sense
out
|of it.  It seems like each time a start a new project, 90% of the names I
try to enter
|are not accepted.
|And I cannot figure out if it is a chord that Finale honestly doesn't know
or if I just
|have to put in an extra set of parentheses or something. 


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Re: [Finale] missing measures in linked parts

[Girard Bowe]

Try breaking multimeasure rests, then recreate them. I've noticed odd things
with this sometimes, but it's always been an easy fix. Hope this works for
you!

Giz
Richmond

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Haroldo Mauro
|Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 10:44 AM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: [Finale] missing measures in linked parts
|
|A simple score that would take me a few hours to finish has already taken
me a
|day and a half. All sorts of unexpected behaviors occur. I've been deleting
linked
|parts and creating them again over and over due to missing measures in
parts,
|the reason of which I haven't the faintest idea.
|
|Why does that happen? The score is finished, all staves are shown. There is
one
|missing measure in the Voice I part (for now - several more parts need to
be
|checked). 


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Re: [Finale] missing measures in linked parts

[Girard Bowe]

Another shortcut - thanks! And I think you can go straight to the Edit menu
to do "parts & score" without selecting all. You would only need select all
to break multi-measure rests.

I do miss having a hardcopy of the manual.

How many little things do we do that others would love to know? I just
recently discovered that I can type "t" to create a tie, as well as hit the
equals key.

Giz

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Christopher Smith
|Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:21 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] missing measures in linked parts
|
|No need to break. Just select all and create. Create for "all parts and
score" while
|you're at it. This happens to me so often I don't even think about it any
more. 


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Re: [Finale] I notice that there is still no Finale update

[Girard Bowe]

Is the Finale team aware that we desperately want a bug-fix release? At this
point, I'd gladly pay for it, even without new features. Glad to hear that
Finale is alive & well - thanks for the update!

Giz

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Phillips, Justin
|Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 10:45 AM
|To: 
|Cc: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] I notice that there is still no Finale update
|
|Hi all,
|
|In the past we released a new version yearly around May-July. In the summer
of
|2012, we announced we'd be extending Finale's release schedule. While I
cannot
|announce any dates at this time, we have stated that there will be a new
version
|this year, one that our Finale team has been working very hard on. Finale
is very
|much alive and well.
|
|Justin Phillips
|Senior Product Manager
|MakeMusic,Inc
|763-772-3964 



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Re: [Finale] volume adjustment

[Girard Bowe]

This doesn't solve the problem, as the Finale volume can't be easily heard
over the MIDI device. Raising the system volume raises everything. I run
into the same thing using Transcribe! Luckily, I can turn T! down.

Giz

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Michael Lawlor
|Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:38 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] volume adjustment
|
|Turn up the volume!
|I am being serious.  I went through finding all the places I could adjust
the output
|of Finale and ended up messing up the output of other sources.  It took me
ages
|to figure out all the changes I needed to undo to get it back to normal.
|Regards,
|Michael Lawlor
|
|On 07/10/2013 21:47, Ryan wrote:
|> Is there a way to adjust the volume that Finale outputs? I'm not
|> talking about the key velocities, necessarily, I just want the overall
|> sound to be louder.
|> When I do take downs, I need to REALLY lower the output volume of the
|> media player I'm using in order to hear the MIDI keyboard play through. 


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[Finale] Finale 2014 pricing

[Girard Bowe]

Why does it cost more to upgrade from Finale than to crossover from
Sibelius? Doesn't seem fair to loyal Finale users. . . .

 

Giz

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[Finale] Garritan Sale

[Girard Bowe]

Just got in and saw that Garritan is offering 50% off their JABB set for
CyberMonday. I'm wondering if those sounds are any better than the
Finale/Garritan sounds. The trumpet, sax & trombone sound synthesized -
they're just terrible. However, the samples on the website are killer. If
they're the same sounds, how much tweaking has to be done to get them to
sound right?

 

I don't need a bunch of special effects; I don't need a bunch of obscure
instruments. If I could get decent horn sounds easily, it would be worth $75
to me.

 

Just wondering if anybody has any insight. And if good sounds are possible
from the resident Garritan setup in Finale 2014, how do I get them?

 

If anyone has a quick answer, that would be great. I've got till 12 CST to
take advantage of the sale.

 

Thanks!

 

Giz

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Re: [Finale] Garritan Sale

[Girard Bowe]

Thanks for all the replies. Chuck weighed in first last night before the
sale ran out, so Garritan JABB3 is on my desktop waiting to be opened.

Check out the samples on the Garritan site:

http://www.garritan.com/products/jazz-big-band-3/

How much tweaking had to be done here?

Can anyone point me to some self-help resources for setting up & maximizing
Garritan JABB?

Thanks again!

Giz
Richmond VA

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Craig Parmerlee
|Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 2:10 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Garritan Sale
|
|I agree 100% with what Chuck said. Without tweaking, it is pretty lame.
|I struggle with the volume levels.  I really have to work to get anything
heard in
|the mix. Spreading out the stereo field helps a lot. 


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Re: [Finale] Garritan libraries

[Girard Bowe]

I asked this question early this month, and the consensus seemed to be that
at $75 (the sale price then), it was worth it, although few seemed to be
able to replicate the quality of the samples on the Garritan site, or the
samples used by Chuck Israels for his Exploring Jazz Arranging book. I'm
thinking you'd get better results if you were using the Garritan sounds with
a DAW rather than a notation program.

That said, I bit at the $75 price for the Jazz & Big Band collection, and I
found a significant improvement in sounds and volume. Perhaps it is because
I spent a bit more time with the Aria player once I purchased JABB, but in
any case, I'm glad I went for it.

Most of my work is transcribing and arranging for smaller horn sections with
rhythm section, and I use playback as an audible spellcheck, so I don't need
commercial quality playback, but it's nice having something that sounds
closer than the resident Finale Garritan sounds. The trumpet sounds still
suffer most, but are an improvement.

You'll have to decide if it's worth waiting another year to save another $25
- assuming they'll offer another half-price sale next Christmas. I think I'd
still be pleased had I spent $99.

Giz

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Dalvin Boone
|Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:57 PM
|To: Finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: [Finale] Garritan libraries
|
|I would like to have better sounding Finale files;  are the Garritan
libraries a
|significant improvement over what comes with Finale, and are they generally
|worth $99.95 (each)? 


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Re: [Finale] F2014 bug: articulations sometimes don't work at some zoom levels

[Girard Bowe]

I have experienced this problem, also. The hot key won't work, selecting
single or multiple notes won't work. It's definitely NOT a layer problem for
me. Exiting & restarting Finale sometimes works. Working with different
tools and coming back to articulations has sometimes worked. I work almost
exclusively at zoom level 3 (user defined at 65%). I'll try switching zoom
levels.

Maybe I should start another thread, but has anyone experienced more
frequent crashes with Fin 2014 (I'm using Win7)? Previously, a very rare
occurrence, but now, several times per session. I suspect it's connected to
my simultaneous use of Transcribe!, but this didn't seem to be a problem
before. I'm Ctrl-S-ing much more frequently now, and I really miss the edit
toolbar (no handy save, print, undo, redo buttons).

Giz
|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Scott Jones
|Make sure you have not accidentally changed the layer you are working in
|accidentally.  That drives me bananas when I do that accidentally.
|
|> On Jan 17, 2014, at 19:41, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
|>
|> Has anybody experienced this?  Working in scroll most at zoom level 2
|> (Ctrl-2) on a Windows 7 system, I kept getting into a case where I
|> couldn't apply articulations.  



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[Finale] Ossias, I think

[Girard Bowe]

I'm trying to create a leadsheet for Benny Golson's Blues on My Mind, and
there are rhythm kicks integral to the song. I wanted to notate them above
the melody line as an ossia, but it seems as if I have to create a separate
ossia for each measure - very clunky. And when I tried to use the rhythm
section staff as the source, the rhythm staff style did not carry over.

 

Is there an easier way to do this, or am I going to have to create a 2-staff
lead sheet?

 

Thanks for any help on this!

 

Giz

Richmond VA

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Re: [Finale] Ossias, I think

[Girard Bowe]

Thanks to all for the suggestions, and thank goodness for Jari's plug-ins!

I did experience a bug - when entering notes & rests into layer 4, the rests
moved down, and the rests in layer 1 moved up. At least I think it's a bug.

Would anyone care to look at this and critique it? I'd be glad to pdf it to
you.

Thanks again!

Giz 
Richmond VA
FinWin2014a


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Re: [Finale] Ossias, I think

[Girard Bowe]

I used Darcy's & Steve's suggestions for the Blues on My Mind leadsheet, and
here is the result:

http://freejazzinstitute.com/showposts.php?dept=transcriptions

Thanks again - I'm open to comments regarding the look - would you have laid
it out this way?

Giz
Richmond VA

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Darcy James Argue
|Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 1:40 AM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Ossias, I think
|
|Don't use the Ossia Tool. Put the kicks in a separate layer above staff,
reduce size,
|and use the "Hide Ledger Lines" plugin. 


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Re: [Finale] Ossias, I think

[Girard Bowe]

I thank all who took the time to look at my leadsheet and make suggestions -
this is the type of feedback I was hoping for! I've printed them all, and
will be revising my leadsheet accordingly.

For Darcy, regarding the font - I'm using Dom Casual. I was tired of some of
the cartoonish Jazz text characters, but if Dom Cas looks like Comic Sans to
you, my choice wasn't much better! I'm open for suggestions for a text font
which will work with the Jazz music font.

For Christopher - yes, I got the French title wrong. It should be Des Femmes
Disparaissent.

Thanks again!

Giz
Richmond VA


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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014B

[Girard Bowe]

Despite proclaiming "Numerous crashing situations have been fixed," Finale
2014b is still crashing when I use Transcribe! This happens reliably several
times a sesssion. If it doesn't crash, playback doesn't work when I press
the spacebar and click the score. Restarting Finale fixes this temporarily,
till the next crash.

Maybe they fixed this on the Mac side: "Many audio-related crashes have been
fixed and USB mono input devices no longer cause errors." This fix doesn't
appear on the Windows highlights.

I guess I'll have to wait till Finale 2014c, or pay another $100+ and hope
it's fixed in Finale 2015.

And yes, I did submit this problem (again), but have little hope of
resolution.

Giz
Richmond VA

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|John Blane
|Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:47 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2014B
|
|http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/now-available-finale-2014b/


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[Finale] Creating key sig for ascending melodic minor

[Girard Bowe]

I've tried doing this, but with no success. The notes I play with my
keyboard aren't what appear on the staff. Obviously, I've not set this up
properly. I was hoping someone had an easy-to-use quick-guide for this.

 

I was also hoping that once I had created the key sig I would be able to
transpose it diatonically, so that a pattern I create on the tonic could be
transposed to the other modes of that same scale & key signature. My failed
attempt at creating the key sig precluded me from getting this far. Is what
I'm asking for possible? Will this work if I make the scale keyless, so as
to show accidentals?

 

Thanks for any help & suggestions!

 

Giz

Richmond VA

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Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves

[Girard Bowe]

Try bringing up the group attributes and make sure that "When hiding empty
staves" is set to "Hide normally." I had this same problem, and somehow
"Never hide" was the selection.

Sorry to come to this so late, I hope this helps.

Giz
Richmond VA

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Richard Huggins
|Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 3:38 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Won't hide empty staves
|
|Well, I'll be d#
|
|The suggestion to change the document back to the last-known working
|percentage (90%) did not work. (But thanks for the reminder to consider
that.)
|
|So, on a total " I wonder..." basis,I  renamed the file, I exported it to
xml,
|Imported it back to .mus, tried the hiding manuever at 90% and it worked,
then
|tried it at 85% and it still worked!
|
|Apparently the export-import trick flushed out the bugs causing my problem.
|Sigh
|
|
|On Monday, August 4, 2014 12:34 PM, David H. Bailey
| wrote:
|
|
|
|On 8/4/2014 12:53 PM, Simon Troup wrote:
|> Sorry just noticed your comment about 85%, curiously I'm working at a
|> staff reduction of 85% too, I wonder if this is a voodoo number
|> responsible for a bug under various conditions. Then again, it could
|> just be a coincidence - enormous conspiracy theories start this way...
|>
|
|There have been bugs in Finale over the 20+years I've been using it which
only
|appeared at specific percentages.
|
|But it's easy enough to test -- he can go back to 90% and see if the
problem is still
|there.  Or he could try 86% or 84% and see if the problem is still there.
|
|
|--
|David H. Bailey
|dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
|http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com
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Re: [Finale] Clef Won't Change

[Girard Bowe]

Try going to the Instrument List in Score Manager. In the lower right is a
clef option. Fiddling with this may help. Sometimes there's more than one
approach in Finale, and it's not always clear which one dominates.

Giz
Richmond VA

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Blake Richardson
|Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:29 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: [Finale] Clef Won't Change
|
|I'm using Finale 2009 on a Mac Pro, and I've run into something puzzling.
I'm
|working on a score that includes Bb Bass Clarinet, which Finale defaults to
the
|treble clef. I want to change it bass clef, but Finale won't let me do it.
In fact, it
|won't let me change the clef to anything at all. What's weird is that when
I go to
|change it, the bass clef is highlighted in the clef change dialog box,
indicating that
|Finale thinks it's *already* in bass clef, even though the actual staff has
a treble
|clef on it. No matter what clef I choose (alto, tenor, 

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Re: [Finale] Michael (is) Good

[Girard Bowe]

Hi, Michael - I'm glad to hear that Finale will continue to be improved &
tweaked. I'll reiterate what has been expressed by many in this forum often
over the years: we would love a release that just fixes bugs. The last
several releases have seen a number of users who feel forced to move to a
previous release due to new bugs introduced with the lastest version.

Here's a few of my bugs, and a few wishes as well:

Chords become unchecked in the filter.
Articulation macro doesn't always work.
Selection tool is buggy. Shift-click doesn't always encompass selection.
In Speedy entry, can't always select the last note in the frame.
Spacebar-click doesn't always start playback. Finale must be restarted to
enable playback.
In JazzFont, the augmentation dot on a dotted-eighth rest is spaced too far
to the right.
Finale 2014 shuts down for no apparent reason.
Finale 2014 shuts down randomly when I use Transcribe! software.
There are a few Jazzfont characters which need reworking (eg, the Z looks
like a 2).
(I contacted Customer Support re: the shutdown issues, but nothing they
suggested worked.)
Aria loading is painfully slow.

Not a bug, but. . .
Edit toolbar should be available (Save, Do/Undo, Print, etc). I REALLY miss
this!
"Open most recent document" should be an option for startup action.
It would be nice to have user-defined text inserts.
Adjust Jazzfont Chord Symbols to conform with Roemer-Brandt styling.

There are others who more serious issues than mine - I hope you all will
chime in!

I love the linked parts - that's been my favorite upgrade feature of recent
releases.

Giz Bowe
Richmond VA
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Re: [Finale] OT: Baroque Articulation

[Girard Bowe]

I've seen daggers over 8th notes in big band swing scores to indicate even
eighths, but this is probably not exactly what you're looking for! :-)  

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Lawrence Yates
|Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 12:09 PM
|To: 
|Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: Baroque Articulation
|
|There was a recent conversation in one of the mailing lists of which I am a
|member (possibly this one) where it was stated that these "daggers" have
nothing
|to do with the length of the note but that they indicate that the notes
should be
|given equal weight (as opposed to a strong first beat) and that this
indication
|continued beyond the baroque into the early romantic period. 

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Re: [Finale] Anybody think we will ever see any more fixes for F2014?

[Girard Bowe]

Michael Good poked his head into our mailing list early last month, but
there's no clue if he heard the responses, so I have copied him on this
email. I would love to have a bug-fix release, and would pay for it.
Several people have requests for new features, but a lot of traffic on this
list concerns bugs. A number of users are using previous Finale versions due
to various issues.

Quote from Michael's email of 7/30:
"As a general rule, I will never be able to offer dates or estimates for
future features, bug fixes, releases, or downloads.
What I can do is acknowledge the issue and work with my colleagues to create
ever better products in the future."

I, for one, don't need a better product - I just want the one I have to work
as it should. I would love to hear that someone in  MakeMusic takes our
concerns with bug-fixes seriously.

Here's a repost of my earlier email (a number of bug-fixes were requested in
response to this email):

Here's a few of my bugs, and a few wishes as well:

Chords become unchecked in the filter.
Articulation macro doesn't always work.
Selection tool is buggy. Shift-click doesn't always encompass selection.
In Speedy entry, can't always select the last note in the frame.
Spacebar-click doesn't always start playback. Finale must be restarted to
enable playback.
In JazzFont, the augmentation dot on a dotted-eighth rest is spaced too far
to the right.
Finale 2014 shuts down for no apparent reason.
Finale 2014 shuts down randomly when I use Transcribe! software.
There are a few Jazzfont characters which need reworking (eg, the Z looks
like a 2).
(I contacted Customer Support re: the shutdown issues, but nothing they
suggested worked.) Aria loading is painfully slow.

Not a bug, but. . .
Edit toolbar should be available (Save, Do/Undo, Print, etc). I REALLY miss
this!
"Open most recent document" should be an option for startup action.
It would be nice to have user-defined text inserts.
Adjust Jazzfont Chord Symbols to conform with Roemer-Brandt styling.

There are others who more serious issues than mine - I hope you all will
chime in!

I love the linked parts - that's been my favorite upgrade feature of recent
releases.

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[Finale] Accidental spacing issue

[Girard Bowe]

I'm transcribing Open Sesame, which has a series of dotted
eighths-sixteenths, and the 16th is often accidentalized. The right stem of
the natural sign touches the 16th beam. Making an adjustment in Document
Options results in bad spacing for every other accidental occurrence. Is
there an easy way to globally fix the spacing of a natural sign? And
doubling the note values and switching to cut time is not an option!

 

Thanks,

 

Giz

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Re: [Finale] What quoting all of a popular thread does

[Girard Bowe]

I actually favor top-posting (can you believe there's even a name for that 
practice?). But I'm a firm believer in trimming replies so that what remains is 
pertinent to your response, but not because of size and bandwidth issues, as 
Aaron points out. It certainly makes it easier for digest-folks so they don't 
have to wade through multiply repeated headers and re-re-quoted material. Too 
much editing can be bad too. I'm on a neighborhood group where some delete 
everything, and it's rarely clear what they intend.

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Aaron Sherber
|Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 9:23 AM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] What quoting all of a popular thread does
|
|On 2/5/2015 4:51 PM, Kenneth Moore wrote:
|> In the early days of email, ISTR
|> that recommended practice was to quote only the most recent
|> contribution to a thread.
|
|Yes, and also to put your reply under the relevant quote, like so. But I'm 
afraid
|that both of these battles have largely been lost. In the context of modern 
email,
|the difference between 55KB and 9KB is trivial in terms of storage and 
bandwidth
|– even though the older conventions also made comprehension much easier in
|terms of seeing exactly what was being replied to. Sic transit etc. 


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Re: [Finale] Templates

[Girard Bowe]

Recreating a template for a new version is a tortuous and torturous task.
Robert Patterson's Scrapbook Setting plugin just doesn't seem to work for
me, and I'm not sure it's comprehensive enough to completely recreate a
template with all one's refinements.

If someone came up with a plug-in that did this reliably, I'd pay good money
for it. I've requested this from the Finale developers, but they didn't
bite.

Giz
Richmond VA

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|SN jef chippewa
|Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:36 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Templates
|
|
|when i had to do this, i simply took screenshots of every possible page in
the
|document options, opened my finale doc in the main screen and the images on
|my smaller screen and hacked through transferring the settings one by one.
yuck.
|
|thought i was being clever by naming all the screenshots (ties_short,
|ties_medium, etc.) - i was to a degree, but should have prefixed numbers to
them
|(1a_xxx, 1b_xxx, ...) so they would be listed alphabetically corresponding
to the
|order in which they appear in the dialogue tabs 

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[Finale] Key sig for melodic minor

[Girard Bowe]

Ascending, of course. I've tried to create this, but without success. If
anybody has any easy way to do this, or at least a clear explanation, I'd be
grateful.

 

Also, assuming this is possible, will it transpose as expected? That is, if
I have a D melodic minor, will it transpose up a major second as E melodic
minor?

 

And lastly, will it transpose diatonically according to the key signature?
I'd like to be able to select a section, press 6, and have everything be one
step lower in the same key.

 

Thanks again for any help! I'm trying to create melodic minor exercises for
myself, and would be glad to share these.

 

Giz

Richmond VA

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Re: [Finale] Key sig for melodic minor

[Girard Bowe]

Exactly.

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Ryan Beard
|Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:29 PM
|To: 
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Key sig for melodic minor
|
|Just to clarify, for A melodic minor, you just want an F# and G# in the key
|signature? 


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Re: [Finale] Key sig for melodic minor

[Girard Bowe]

I agree! The non-standard key sig would be for various scalar articulation
exercises, adapting some standard trumpet exercises to the melodic minor
mode for improvisational purposes. If the melodic minor key sig worked as
expected, it would obviate a tremendous amount of work in transposing an
exercise into all 7 modes of all 12 keys.

I would probably be the only one to use these, unless one of my Finale list
or trumpet buddies were interested in seeing these.

Thanks Raymond!

Giz

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Raymond Horton
|Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 9:36 AM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Key sig for melodic minor
|
|>From a performer's standpoint, I would strongly advise against it.
|>IMHO
|
|Raymond Horton
|Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
|Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT
|rayhortonmusic.com
|
|On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Girard Bowe 
|wrote:
|
|> Ascending, of course. I've tried to create this, but without success.
|> If anybody has any easy way to do this, or at least a clear
|> explanation, I'd be grateful. 

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Re: [Finale] Darcy Argue 2015 Guggenheim Fellow

[Girard Bowe]

You're worthy, you're worthy! Congratulations!

Giz

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Darcy James Argue
|Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 5:24 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Darcy Argue 2015 Guggenheim Fellow
|
|Hello all,
|
|Thank you so much everyone for your very kind words! It's an unbelievable
honor,
|obviously, and I will endeavor to be worthy of it. 

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[Finale] Chuck Israels

[Girard Bowe]

Nice article on our friend:

 

http://www.portlandmonthlymag.com/articles/2015/7/16/portland-s-best-kept-ja
zz-secret

 

linked from the Mosaic Daily Jazz Gazette;

 

http://www.mosaicrecords.com/?utm_source=ExactTarget

&utm_medium=email&utm_content=http%3a%2f%2fwww.mosaicrecords.com&utm_campaig
n=20881425&utm_umg_et=125291990

 

Chuck, I hope you're writing a book! And your insight into our present-day
culture is simple, accurate, and sad.

 

Play on!

 

GizB

Richmond VA

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Re: [Finale] Preferred method for entering notes/etc into finale 2012

[Girard Bowe]

That's funny - I use Speedy also, but I select the value on the QWERTY, then
press the pitch on the midi. Maybe you're not using a midi keyboard? So for
me, it's note value first, then pitch. However, "pitch first" is great for
banjos!

I've gotten to be pretty adept at using 2 keyboards. I also have several
templates set up for different projects. The main ones are jazz/funk band
arrangements (2-5 horns + rhythm), jazz solo transcriptions, and a legit
template.

Linked parts has been a huge time-saver for me - so much better for my
purposes than part extraction.

There are no plug-ins for entering notes that I'm aware of, but there are
number which are very useful once you've entered notes. I seem to use the JW
Plugins every session.

GizB
Richmond VA

|-Original Message-
|From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
|Chuck Israels
|Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:53 PM
|To: finale@shsu.edu
|Subject: Re: [Finale] Preferred method for entering notes/etc into finale
2012
|
|And the biggest reason for my use of Speedy entry is - pitch first, then
note value.
|I can't wrap my head around the opposite way. Perhaps if Simple were to
have
|that option, I'd have reason to consider changing.
|
|Chuck 

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[Finale] Spacing issue for dotted rest

[Girard Bowe]

Here is the latest response from MakeMusic regarding my complaint about the 
eighth rest dot spacing in JazzFont:

"At the risk of going into semantics, bug fixes are defined as the software not 
operating as designed. The augmentation dots appear next to notes and rests at 
a distance that is defined in the settings - this works exactly as designed. 
Your request is to add functionality that allows this distance to be set 
differently for rests than it is for notes."

JW Change has the ability to do this, but it is cumbersome, and I have 
forgotten how to use it. I'm hoping someone else will request this "feature" 
and that someone will remember the JW Change workaround so that I won't have to 
change each instance individually.

After making this complaint for several years to MakeMusic, this is the first 
cogent response I've received from them. Now I know the spacing issue is not a 
bug!

Thanks for sharing my misery!

GizB
Richmond VA

PS - maybe we can get them to provide a JazzFont "Z" that doesn't look like a 2.


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[Finale] Augmentation dot bug redux

[Girard Bowe]

For those of you who have been following this (2?!), here is the latest
communique from MakeMusic. This is possibly the best and most cogent
response I've received from MakeMusic in response to bugs & feature
requests. For those not following, this regards the misplacement of the
augmentation dot on eighth rests in Jazzfont, and the inability of the
program to adjust augmentation dot spacing of rests without adjusting
augmentation note spacing.

 

"Hi Girard,

Thanks for your patience on this.

I want to first apologize for my initial answers to your question - in my
mind, I had compartmentalized the issue down to the simple matter of
Finale's Augmentation Dot settings not differentiating between note-attached
vs rest-attached augmentation dots. After going through this process, it is
clear that there is an Augmentation Dot bug that affects the placement of
the dot relative to the rest (using Jazz font). I stand corrected.

Unfortunately, we do not currently have this on our issues list, but I will
be happy to submit it today. As such, I do not believe that this will be
fixed in Finale v.25.

The separate-but-related issue of whether there should be configuration
settings for the spacing of rest-attached augmentation dots (as opposed to
note-attached) is not something that we have on our radar (to the best of my
knowledge). If this is something that you think should be a feature in
Finale, I would recommend that you submit this on our Feature Request page:

https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/200449177-Finale-Fea
ture-Requests

This page is set up to allow our customer base to submit new features for
peer review and discussion. Our Product Management team can then review this
information as a whole for each feature request, and determine an
appropriate disposition.

I am sorry that I don't have better news for you regarding this, but I hope
this information helps. Please let me know if you have any questions or
concerns about this.

Once again, my sincere apologies for misconstruing your initial question. I
do hope that we are able to fix this issue in an upcoming release."




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[Finale] Augmentation dots redux

[Girard Bowe]

https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/216619307-Augmentatio
n-dots

 

I received a notice a few weeks ago that there was a response to a
months-old post. The exchange has moved past just dots, and I thought Finale
listers may be interested.

 

GizB

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Re: [Finale] Third party big band fonts

[Girard Bowe]

Pretty sure the Maria Schneider book is in JazzFont. I don't care for B'way 
Copyist, either. I use JazzFont for notation and Dom Casual for text & chords. 
There are some problems with JazzFont, and supposedly MakeMusic (or whatever) 
is looking at an alternative; they can't alter the JF, probably for proprietary 
issues.

GizB
Richmond VA

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of 
Eric Dannewitz
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:44 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Finale] Third party big band fonts

Have an example perhaps? The stuff I’ve seen seems to be JazzFont to me


> On Mar 10, 2017, at 4:37 PM, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi there could somebody suggest or recommend A third party big band 
> font That would look hip for example if anybody has the Maria 
> Schneider book of scores they look great I believe they were produced 
> in Finale Not keen on Broadway copyist
> 
> Thanks for any help
> Martin
> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Girard Bowe]

Yes. I use CutePDF Writer. You just send your files to it as you would a
printer. Unfortunately, Finale appends an "X" to each filename. It's a known
issue, but . . . .

http://www.cutepdf.com/

You can export to pdf in Finale, but you have to do each file individually,
and rename it if you want the partname included in the filename. I submitted
a request to make "export to pdf" function as the printer function does
(selection of multiple files, partname included). I was told it was a good
idea. . . .

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
Martin Nickless
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:53 AM
To: Finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file


Hi there is it possible to export just the parts or score and parts  in to a
PDF which I can then email for the recipient to print off my arrangement  as
They wish I use windows 10 Very Best Thanks for any help 

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

[Girard Bowe]

CutePDF does just what it says it does, and no more. No spyware, no adware,
no nags. Very easy, and free!

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
Martin Nickless
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 10:46 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 Printing parts from a PDF file

Thanks was just looking at a few Some look as though they may be a perfect
hiding place for spyware so thank you for your advice 

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[Finale] Cutepdf & Finale

[Girard Bowe]

Well, after creating dozens of pdf's to load to my tablet, Cutepdf has
stopped working with Finale. It works in other applications. Any thoughts or
advice or recommendations for other free pdf readers?

 

Many thanks!

 

GizB

Richmond VA

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Re: [Finale] Cutepdf & Finale

[Girard Bowe]

Now it appear that Finale isn't printing to hard copy, either.

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
Girard Bowe
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:52 AM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] Cutepdf & Finale

Well, after creating dozens of pdf's to load to my tablet, Cutepdf has
stopped working with Finale. It works in other applications. Any thoughts or
advice or recommendations for other free pdf readers? 

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Re: [Finale] Cutepdf & Finale

[Girard Bowe]

Thanks for the info, but not very helpful to me. Besides, it sounds like a Rube 
Goldberg solution. I just discovered I can export to PDF, which is fine as a 
temporary workaround till I discover a solution that will work on my pc.

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of 
Eric Dannewitz
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:13 AM
To: finale 
Subject: Re: [Finale] Cutepdf & Finale

If you had a mac you wouldn’t have an issue.

You could print them to postscript and use something like ps2pdf.com 
<http://ps2pdf.com/> to convert them.

> On Jan 11, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Girard Bowe  wrote:
> 
> Now it appear that Finale isn't printing to hard copy, either.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On 
> Behalf Of Girard Bowe
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:52 AM
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Subject: [Finale] Cutepdf & Finale
> 
> Well, after creating dozens of pdf's to load to my tablet, Cutepdf has 
> stopped working with Finale. It works in other applications. Any 
> thoughts or advice or recommendations for other free pdf readers?
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Re: [Finale] Cutepdf & Finale

[Girard Bowe]

I just tried Bullzip pdf creator – no luck there, either. Must be a Finale 
issue.

 

From: Raymond Horton [mailto:horton.raym...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:01 PM
To: Girard Bowe 
Subject: RE: [Finale] Cutepdf & Finale

 

Yes, I have run into that problem too, the renaming with the finale PDF app, I 
mean. Annoying!

​Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com <http://rayhortonmusic.com> 

 

On Jan 11, 2018 7:53 PM, "Girard Bowe" mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net> > wrote:

Yep, several times! But to no avail. There's a number of pdf apps out there, so 
I'll try one and see what happens. Finale will let me export to pdf, but it's a 
clunkier process, as I need to manually enter the part info as part of the 
filename.

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[mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu <mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu> ] On Behalf Of 
Raymond Horton
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:29 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu <mailto:finale@shsu.edu> 
Subject: Re: [Finale] Cutepdf & Finale

Did you reboot, Girard?

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Re: [Finale] MIDI

[Girard Bowe]

I've experienced the 1/2 step discrepancy recently, but haven't nailed down the 
circumstances or the cure. I thought it was just me or my setup. I haven't been 
using Finale much lately, spending most of my music time practicing instead of 
transcribing or arranging. I'll pay better attention when this occurs, and will 
try Larry's fix then report.

-Original Message-
From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Lawrence David Eden
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 7:17 AM
To: FinaleList 
Subject: [Finale] MIDI

I have a question about MIDI with FinaleMac 25/OS 10.13.5.

I am working on a transposed score that includes trumpets in Bb and horn in F.  
When I display the score in concert pitch the notes I enter return a single 
note sound, but if I display my score in transposed pitch (score showing 
different key signatures) Finale and my MIDI plays 2 notes at a time that are a 
minor second apart.  Most annoying!  I prefer to have Finale handle the 
transposition, so want to use Speedy to enter the notes in transposed 
pitch….one pitch only. 


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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Girard Bowe]

Here is my response to a thread I started on the Finale Forum
  regarding the spacing of the eighth-rest dot in JazzFont:

 

"Well, here it is, 2 years since my post on this thread, and 11  years since
Christopher Smith reported this bug, and with yet another new release, this
bug remains. Finale 26 is an extremely thin improvement, and woefully short
in bug fixes. I wish I could get my money back. I think this will be my last
Finale upgrade. Also, where is the promised alternative to JazzFont, which
has some truly ugly characters? Is there a reason there is no shortcut to
the Jazz character map in the Help dropdown menu? Is there any improvement
to creating mix-font enclosures? Does ANYBODY from Finale care?"

 

I'm curious what bug fixes have been made that users on this list have found
in Finale 26, and what bug fixes you're still waiting for.

 

GizB

Richmond VA

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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Girard Bowe]

I've considered doing just that, but unfortunately, the Bill Duncan fonts are 
part of an expensive package. All I would really want is the chord library. 
That doesn't seem to be an option on the NPC site.

Giz

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From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:56 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

Jazz Font is a terrible font. You should switch to Bill Duncan’s articulation 
font and use Maestro. 


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Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

[Girard Bowe]

Thanks, Chuck - you're right. There are some problems with the Jazz 
articulations, too. The tenuto has a blob on it, the staccato doesn’t space 
properly, and the fermata is just plain ugly.

 

I should have spent that $150 on the Bill Duncan set instead of Finale 26.

 

Best regards,

 

Giz 

 

-Original Message-
From: Finale [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Cisraels
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:21 PM
To: Finale 
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

 

  

  

 

I think you’d want the articulation font as well.   

  

 

  

There are jazz articulations that look appropriate with Maestro. Using Jazz 
font articulations with Maestro looks awful and that discrepancy was why Bill 
made the articulations (for Greg Hamilton and me).   

  

 

  

There’s lots in the package Nick sells you don’t normally need,but I’d be 
unhappy to lose the things mentioned above and the use of the chord font for 
slashes and rhythmic notation.   

  

 

  

Jazz charts look much better with them.   

  

 

  

Chuck   

  

  

  

  

 

  

 

  

  

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 mailto:cisra...@comcast.net)

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>   

> On Oct 11, 2018 at 11:26 AM,  mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net> 
> mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net)>  wrote:

>   

>   

>   

>   

>  I've considered doing just that, but unfortunately, the Bill Duncan fonts 
> are part of an expensive package. All I would really want is the chord 
> library. That doesn't seem to be an option on the NPC site.

> 

> Giz

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: Finale [  
> mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz

> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 1:56 PM

> To:   finale@shsu.edu

> Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 26 -- Opinions?

> 

> Jazz Font is a terrible font. You should switch to Bill Duncan’s articulation 
> font and use Maestro.  

> 

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Re: [Finale] Cannot create some multi measure rests in parts

[Girard Bowe]

Raymond, you might go through the process again. Sometimes it takes more than 
one pass to fix – I’ve no idea why.

 

I’m glad that this was at least partially helpful! It’s not often that I can be 
as helpful as some of our listmates.

 

Regards,

 

Giz

 

From: Raymond Horton [mailto:horton.raym...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 8:40 PM
To: Girard Bowe 
Subject: Re: [Finale] Cannot create some multi measure rests in parts

 

Sorry, let me amend that. It worked some of the time, but not in other 
instances. Thanks!

​Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com <http://rayhortonmusic.com> 

 

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018, 8:29 PM Raymond Horton mailto:horton.raym...@gmail.com>  wrote:

Thanks for the tip! It works!

​Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
Visit us at rayhortonmusic.com <http://rayhortonmusic.com> 

 

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018, 5:34 PM Girard Bowe mailto:girard.b...@verizon.net>  wrote:

Raymond, you may already have tried this, but select all the empty measures, 
then hit Backspace to clear all items. Select those same empty measures, then 
Break Multi-measure rest, then Create multi-measure rest. This has worked for 
me in the past when an errant item has entered what I thought was an empty 
measure.

Giz 

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[Finale] Topline notation

[Girard Bowe]

When I apply Jari's Topline Notation plugin, the ties & ledger lines are
still visible. Is there any easy way around this? Playback isn't critical,
so I don't need to go the route of having two layers to get playback and the
notation I want. Just something simple, if possible. I'd have thought that
since the noteheads can be hidden, so can the ties & ledger lines.

 

Thanks!

 

Giz

Richmond VA

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[Finale] Garritan-Aria sounds

[Girard Bowe]

Can someone please point me to a resource to explain how Garritan works with
Aria, and how best to utilize them? I've used playback for a spell-check
function for years, and endured less than optimal sound, even though I have
the Garritan Jazz library.

 

Making changes in Score Manager and VST banks is confusing. For example,
changing Trumpet Plr 1 to Trumpet KS in VST Banks doesn't seem to affect
Score Manager.

 

When I want to assign sounds, where should I start - score manager or VST
Banks & Effects? Should I ever reassign sounds from the MIDI menu? Is there
a way to universally change libraries, say from Garritan JABB3 to Garritan
Instruments for Finale? 

 

Lastly, is there a way to change score order in Score Manager-Instrument
list?

 

Many thanks for any help!

 

Giz

Richmond VA

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[Finale] Garritan-Aria sounds

[Girard Bowe]

Resending this - never saw it or replies (if any). I apologize if this is
duplicative.

 

 

Can someone please point me to a resource to explain how Garritan works with
Aria, and how best to utilize them? I've used playback for a spell-check
function for years, and endured less than optimal sound, even though I have
the Garritan Jazz library.

 

Making changes in Score Manager and VST banks is confusing. For example,
changing Trumpet Plr 1 to Trumpet KS in VST Banks doesn't seem to affect
Score Manager.

 

When I want to assign sounds, where should I start - score manager or VST
Banks & Effects? Should I ever reassign sounds from the MIDI menu? Is there
a way to universally change libraries, say from Garritan JABB3 to Garritan
Instruments for Finale? 

 

Lastly, is there a way to change score order in Score Manager-Instrument
list?

 

Many thanks for any help!

 

Giz

Richmond VA

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