RE: [Flashcoders] photo mosaics

[Andreas Weber]

Despite the Bitmap API in Flash 8, I'd still recommend to use the GD
library of PHP to do this, mainly for saving the resulting mosaic. 
Either way, you'll have to:

- 'homogenize' the size of the images in the pool. They will come in
different orientations and sizes now, but in the end you have to map
them to one of the square-shaped pixels in the target image. Cut out the
central square part and size each to e.g. 100x100 pixels.

- store the average color of each picture in a database. Get the average
color by scaling a copy of the image down to 1x1 pixel, GD (or Flash)
will do the work of calculating the average value. You may get better
results by scaling down in several steps.

- the average color is a value between 0 and > 16 millions - but the
pool consists of only 3'000 images. To find a match for each pixel in
the target image we'll not be able to work with identical colors, we'll
have to find similar colors. Finding the closest 'websafe' color might
be a good approach:
http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/pipermail/flashcoders/2005-July/143567.html

Now that the we have indexed all images and saved their average color in
the db, we can take any other image, iterate through each pixel, get its
color (probably convert to 'websafe'), search the db for images with
matching colors, randomly select one of them, add it to the big,
emerging mosaic.

Be aware that these operations are very heavy on any processor (after
indexing several ten-thousands 'googled' images, my ISP disabled the PHP
script because it ate to many processor cycles...)

If you do not need to do this 'on the fly' (and prepare for a rather
slow flight...) I don't see a good reason why you would want to program
this yourself - there are several programs, even free ones, out there
(google).

hth
--
Andreas Weber
motiondraw.com


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Sent: Dienstag, 17. Januar 2006 22:32
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] photo mosaics


No one has replied to this post of mine so I am wondering if there is a
better way to describe what I am doing could it be some thing else I
need to look into first to accomplish this? Thanks!

Corban Baxter


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Subject: [Flashcoders] photo mosaics

Hey guys do you all by chance remember seeing a site that used flash to
create photo mosaics of an image you upload to the site. I am looking to
do the same thing but I am not sure where to start. I have this database
with about 3,000 images I'd like to use to make photo mosaics out of.
Does anyone remember the site for one and for two know of any tutorials
that would get me started in creating this application. Thanks for the
help everyone!

Corban Baxter


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Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[grant]

Thanks clark.

I have a non public RIA that used ARP and is pretty big (3000 hours total) I 
did the flash and java with 2 other developers over six months.  We used 
openAMF and love remoting having done webservices with flash before (I like web 
services for java/.net stuff)

Our isn't pretty like yours though :)

Grant.

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Sent: 1/17/06 5:43 PM 
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

> Thanks Grant, yeah the controls are lightweight custom components with an
> event model designed to allow the kind of communication between them so that
> recommended sizes can be autoselected. Uses FlashRemoting (via CF) for all
> product data, pricing and options.
> 
> Often I think the blistering performance of Remoting is overlooked - it's
> definitely a huge advantage of developing RIA's in Flash.
> 
> Clark
> 
> 
> On 17 Jan 2006 18:43:44 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:
> >
> > Clark, are the controls (scroller, dropdown box and vertical accordian)
> > entirely custom components ?
> >
> > very nice interface btw.
> >
> > grant
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: clark slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> > Sent: 1/17/06 12:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs
> >
> > > Here's one we developed for a Golf Club manufacturer who sells highly
> > > customized clubs directly to the public.
> > >
> > > http://www.gigagolf.com
> > >
> > > I think this is a good example of a business RIA because it makes the
> > > product configuration a lot easier than an HTML version might in terms
> > of
> > > using the 'eFit' tools to determine best option for your measurements
> > and
> > > instantly recommending (and selecting) the appropriate product options.
> > >
> > > Clark
> > >
> > > On 1/17/06, matt stuehler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to convince a potential client that Flash is the way to go
> > > > for a B2B RIA for a project it's working on, and I'd like to develop a
> > > > showcase of a RIAs developed in Flash.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure there are hundreds of great examples, but most of them are
> > > > not public. The few available through Macromedia are OK, but not
> > > > great.
> > > >
> > > > The ideal apps would meet two main criteria:
> > > >
> > > > - It should include functionality that's not reproduceable with
> > > > dhtml/ajax (e.g., custom controls or interactivity)
> > > >
> > > > - It should be a real substantive "business"-type application (e.g.,
> > > > not a pseudo-app that's really just a fancy web advertisement)
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks in advance to anyone who can suggest a few great URLs.
> > > >
> > > > I'll be happy to send a list of all the URLs I receive to anyone who's
> > > > interested - just send me your email address, and I'll forward all the
> > > > great apps I find.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Matt Stuehler
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Re: [Flashcoders] An Issue of Encapsulation

[Chris Kennon]

Hi,

This reply was very helpful. I'll sleep on it, but had planned  
something along the lines of your example.



Respectfully,




Christopher Kennon
Principal & Creative Director -Bushidodeep
www.bushidodeep.com
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On Jan 17, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Alan MacDougall wrote:


Chris Kennon wrote:


Hi,

If my understanding of encapsulation is misguided, please correct.  
In  the following code snippet, should in the interest if  
encapsulation,  the "Good Morning/Afternoon" strings be called  
from another function?


That depends on exactly how you interpret "formatTime". The point  
of encapsulation is not that your code embodies an ideal, but that  
it separates unrelated functions in a way that is useful to you.


In the case of a time formatting function, I would argue that you  
might wish to put a string representation of the current time into  
many contexts. Maybe a character in a game says "It is now 12:34PM.  
Good morning!" Or maybe a desktop clock displays only mm:ss. Maybe  
a logging application displays a timestamp before every log  
message. It isn't likely you'll want to say "The current time is:"  
or "Good morning!" in all of these cases.


It would probably be more useful to have a function, formatTime,  
which returns only a string representing the time itself; and then  
construct strings like this: "It's " + formatTime(myDate) + "! Time  
to make the donuts!"


Or if you want the best of both worlds, do this:

function formatTime(date:Date):String
{
   // return the time string
}

getTimeGreeting(date:Date):String
{
   var timeString:String = formatTime(date);
   var greeting:String = "The time is now " + timeString + ".";

   if (date.getHours() < 12)
   {
   greeting += " Good morning!";
   }
   else
   {
  greeting += " Good afternoon... or night.";
   }

   return greeting;
}

This way, you have two functions, each of which does only what it  
should, no more or less. Just remember that "should" is always  
based strictly on the needs of your application... with a little  
room for future expansion or revision. A lot of the main point of  
encapsulation -- and object orientation itself -- is that it makes  
it easier to alter or re-use code later.


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[Flashcoders] PrintJob Landscape printing with Portrait

[Steven Sacks]

Hello everyone,

I'm posting this here in order to provide another solution to the terrible
misinformation available on Macromedia's site about how to convert a
landscape image to portrait for printing using the PrintJob class.

The code posted here at Macromedia's forums is VERY WRONG:
http://tinyurl.com/e4cuf

Real URL:
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=288&;
threadid=1089277&enterthread=y

It's so wrong, in fact, that it took me a fair bit of debugging to figure
out just how wrong it was.  Whoever wrote it obviously didn't test the code
they posted as a solution.  It's pseudocode and you don't post pseudocode as
real code unless you're an asshat, which evollove is.  If you're on this
list, evollove, do us all a favor and don't post anymore solutions anywhere
on the web.  ;)

Here is the correct, tested code for rotating a movieclip to print as
landscape in portrait using PrintJob, for anyone who is looking for the
solution.

function printImage(mc) {
var realW = mc._width;
var realH = mc._height;
var origX = mc._x;
//
pj = new PrintJob();
var pageCount = 0;
if (pj.start()) {
var orient = pj.orientation;
if (orient.toLowerCase() != "landscape") {
mc._rotation = 90;
mc._x = mc._width;
}
var cWidth = mc._width;
var cHeight = mc._height;
var cXscale = (pj.pageWidth / cWidth) * 100;
var cYscale = (pj.pageHeight / cHeight) * 100;
mc._xscale = mc._yscale = Math.min(cXscale, cYscale);
if (pj.addPage(mc, {xMin:0, xMax:realW, yMin:0,
yMax:realH})) {
pageCount++;
}
}
if (pageCount > 0) {
pj.send();
}
mc._xscale = mc._yscale = 100;
mc._rotation = 0;
mc._x = origX;
delete pj;
}

// Explanation
Here are the places the original code was wrong and why, and how this proper
code works.  There are inconsistencies between the clip you're trying to
print and they way PrintJob handles that clip, due mostly to PrintJob being
a poorly written class, which doesn't surprise me.

When you rotate a movieclip 90 degrees, Flash swaps its _width and _height,
or rather, it returns the clip's current _width and _height, which when
rotated 90 degrees, are swapped.  If the clip was 1024x768 and you set its
_rotation = 90, its _width will now return 768 and its _height 1024.  This
is important because you're going to use the rotated width and height to
determine how much to scale the printClip down for PrintJob to print the
entire clip on the page.

When you're scaling an image you normally don't want to scale it out of
proportion, so you need to determine which scale difference is greater (the
lower of the 2 scales returned) and use that for both _xscale and _yscale
equally.  Evollove's script did not do this properly.

PrintJob is retarded in that you need to scale the target clip down for it
to print the entire clip image, but PrintJob still uses the clip's
non-scaled and non-rotated width and height as its xMax and yMax values, not
the _width and _height that Flash returns after rotation and scaling.
Evollove obviously didn't test his code because he passed the adjusted
values and didn't take the time to figure out that the PrintJob Class is
stupid.

This is important:  PrintJob requires you to rotate and scale the clip down
before you print it in order to fit the entire image on a page, but it still
wants you to pass the clip's original width and height (not adjusted for
rotation or scaling) for its print area.  Not only is this dumb and
inconsistent, it's not documented at all (nor are the properties like
orientation, pageWidth, pageHeight, etc.).  Par for the course.

Once you send the print job, reset the _xscale, _yscale, _rotation, and _x
of the clip(s) you were printing.

HTH!

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Re: [Flashcoders] An Issue of Encapsulation

[Alan MacDougall]

Chris Kennon wrote:


Hi,

If my understanding of encapsulation is misguided, please correct. In  
the following code snippet, should in the interest if encapsulation,  
the "Good Morning/Afternoon" strings be called from another function?


That depends on exactly how you interpret "formatTime". The point of 
encapsulation is not that your code embodies an ideal, but that it 
separates unrelated functions in a way that is useful to you.


In the case of a time formatting function, I would argue that you might 
wish to put a string representation of the current time into many 
contexts. Maybe a character in a game says "It is now 12:34PM. Good 
morning!" Or maybe a desktop clock displays only mm:ss. Maybe a logging 
application displays a timestamp before every log message. It isn't 
likely you'll want to say "The current time is:" or "Good morning!" in 
all of these cases.


It would probably be more useful to have a function, formatTime, which 
returns only a string representing the time itself; and then construct 
strings like this: "It's " + formatTime(myDate) + "! Time to make the 
donuts!"


Or if you want the best of both worlds, do this:

function formatTime(date:Date):String
{
   // return the time string
}

getTimeGreeting(date:Date):String
{
   var timeString:String = formatTime(date);
   var greeting:String = "The time is now " + timeString + ".";

   if (date.getHours() < 12)
   {
   greeting += " Good morning!";
   }
   else
   {
  greeting += " Good afternoon... or night.";
   }

   return greeting;
}

This way, you have two functions, each of which does only what it 
should, no more or less. Just remember that "should" is always based 
strictly on the needs of your application... with a little room for 
future expansion or revision. A lot of the main point of encapsulation 
-- and object orientation itself -- is that it makes it easier to alter 
or re-use code later.


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[Flashcoders] Frame or duration limit on FLV

[JP]

Wondering if there is frame or duration limit on progressively downloaded
FLVs.(?)

I've got a project with roughly 150 MPEG videos (anywhere from 3-20 minutes
each) that I'm preparing to convert to FLV. I'm aware of this tech note
regarding the 16,000 frame limit for .fla/.swf (
http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_14437 ) but
my client just emailed to say that he'd heard of a duration limit of 8
minutes.

Anyone have any info on this?


- jp
  

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RE: [Flashcoders] Accessibility: keyboard tabbing

[Yip, Stanley]

Just a small update the tabbing in WinXP FF1.5 should be


WinXP FF1.5 tabbing ok in HTML only, cannot tab into Flash


s


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Stanley
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2006 12:38
To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: [Flashcoders] Accessibility: keyboard tabbing

G'day Flashcoders,

 

I am building Flash interactives for the public education sector in
Australia

 

We're having grief with accessibility in regards to keyboard tabbing
into and out of Flash from the HTML container and vice versa with Flash
player 7 and Flash player 8.

 

Keyboard tabbing tested on:

 

WinXP IE6 SP2 tabbing all ok, normal tabbing
cycle in and out of HTML/Flash

WinXP FF1.5 tabbing ok into Flash, then
cycle ok in Flash but trapped within Flash movie

 

OS/X 10.4.2 Safari2.0 tabbing ok into Flash, then cycle
ok in Flash but trapped within Flash movie

OS/X 10.4.2 IE5.2.3   tabbing ok into Flash, then cycle
ok in Flash but trapped within Flash movie

 

OS/X 10.3.9 Safari1.2 tabbing ok in HTML only, cannot
tab into Flash

OS/X 10.3.9 IE5.2.3   tabbing ok into Flash, then cycle
ok in Flash but trapped within Flash movie   

OS/X 10.3.9 FF1.0.7  tabbing ok in HTML only, cannot tab
into Flash

 

I've set tab ordering and from what I've Google'ed and read up on in
Flash help and www.macromedia.com   Flash
player 7 has fixed this?

 

How do you setup correct keyboard tabbing behaviour?

 

Thanks.

 


-
Stanley Yip
Educational Programmer
TLI PTRS 
Centre for Learning Innovation
(02) 9715 8203
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[Flashcoders] Accessibility: keyboard tabbing

[Yip, Stanley]

G'day Flashcoders,

 

I am building Flash interactives for the public education sector in
Australia

 

We're having grief with accessibility in regards to keyboard tabbing
into and out of Flash from the HTML container and vice versa with Flash
player 7 and Flash player 8.

 

Keyboard tabbing tested on:

 

WinXP IE6 SP2 tabbing all ok, normal tabbing
cycle in and out of HTML/Flash

WinXP FF1.5 tabbing ok into Flash, then
cycle ok in Flash but trapped within Flash movie

 

OS/X 10.4.2 Safari2.0 tabbing ok into Flash, then cycle
ok in Flash but trapped within Flash movie

OS/X 10.4.2 IE5.2.3   tabbing ok into Flash, then cycle
ok in Flash but trapped within Flash movie

 

OS/X 10.3.9 Safari1.2 tabbing ok in HTML only, cannot
tab into Flash

OS/X 10.3.9 IE5.2.3   tabbing ok into Flash, then cycle
ok in Flash but trapped within Flash movie   

OS/X 10.3.9 FF1.0.7  tabbing ok in HTML only, cannot tab
into Flash

 

I've set tab ordering and from what I've Google'ed and read up on in
Flash help and www.macromedia.com   Flash
player 7 has fixed this?

 

How do you setup correct keyboard tabbing behaviour?

 

Thanks.

 


-
Stanley Yip
Educational Programmer
TLI PTRS 
Centre for Learning Innovation
(02) 9715 8203
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Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Miles Thompson]

Yes, I should echo that, despite my earlier crack about the back button. It 
was very, very nic, as one progressed through the order, how the 
different  illustrations and descriptions displayed.


Miles

At 02:43 PM 1/17/2006, you wrote:

Clark, are the controls (scroller, dropdown box and vertical accordian) 
entirely custom components ?


very nice interface btw.

grant

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Sent: 1/17/06 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

> Here's one we developed for a Golf Club manufacturer who sells highly
> customized clubs directly to the public.
>
> http://www.gigagolf.com
>
> I think this is a good example of a business RIA because it makes the
> product configuration a lot easier than an HTML version might in terms of
> using the 'eFit' tools to determine best option for your measurements and
> instantly recommending (and selecting) the appropriate product options.
>
> Clark
>
> On 1/17/06, matt stuehler  wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I'm trying to convince a potential client that Flash is the way to go
> > for a B2B RIA for a project it's working on, and I'd like to develop a
> > showcase of a RIAs developed in Flash.
> >
> > I'm sure there are hundreds of great examples, but most of them are
> > not public. The few available through Macromedia are OK, but not
> > great.
> >
> > The ideal apps would meet two main criteria:
> >
> > - It should include functionality that's not reproduceable with
> > dhtml/ajax (e.g., custom controls or interactivity)
> >
> > - It should be a real substantive "business"-type application (e.g.,
> > not a pseudo-app that's really just a fancy web advertisement)
> >
> > Many thanks in advance to anyone who can suggest a few great URLs.
> >
> > I'll be happy to send a list of all the URLs I receive to anyone who's
> > interested - just send me your email address, and I'll forward all the
> > great apps I find.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Matt Stuehler
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Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Miles Thompson]

And if I use the back button on my browser the entire order is tossed away.
Yeah, I know - it's a Flash problem.

So, is a B2B best done in Flash?

Miles

At 01:40 PM 1/17/2006, clark slater wrote:


Here's one we developed for a Golf Club manufacturer who sells highly
customized clubs directly to the public.

http://www.gigagolf.com

I think this is a good example of a business RIA because it makes the
product configuration a lot easier than an HTML version might in terms of
using the 'eFit' tools to determine best option for your measurements and
instantly recommending (and selecting) the appropriate product options.

Clark

On 1/17/06, matt stuehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I'm trying to convince a potential client that Flash is the way to go
> for a B2B RIA for a project it's working on, and I'd like to develop a
> showcase of a RIAs developed in Flash.
>
> I'm sure there are hundreds of great examples, but most of them are
> not public. The few available through Macromedia are OK, but not
> great.
>
> The ideal apps would meet two main criteria:
>
> - It should include functionality that's not reproduceable with
> dhtml/ajax (e.g., custom controls or interactivity)
>
> - It should be a real substantive "business"-type application (e.g.,
> not a pseudo-app that's really just a fancy web advertisement)
>
> Many thanks in advance to anyone who can suggest a few great URLs.
>
> I'll be happy to send a list of all the URLs I receive to anyone who's
> interested - just send me your email address, and I'll forward all the
> great apps I find.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt Stuehler
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[Flashcoders] PrintJob.orientation = "landscape" not working

[Steven Sacks]

Hey,

I did a Google to figure out how to set a PrintJob to default to landscape
and found this page:

http://tinyurl.com/8uqbw

PrintJob.orientation = "landscape";

But it doesn't work.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[pixelassembly]

Hi

I think I've done this in two different ways in the past (for different
situations)

I'm at work and don't have any code here,
but, from memory, the main concepts were


1: tag / stack based (was filtering tags at the same time)

go through the htmltext,
push opening tags onto a stack (ignor  and other non-spanning tags)
pop when closing tag is encountered(check that it's the same tag if you
like - if not, do some workaround ? :S )
count actual displayed characters as you go

when you get to the text you want,
use the stack contents (it should contain all the applicable tags)

continue on and copy the html text (keep pushing/popping)
when you've got the required character count,
pop down through the stack closing each tag (these are the one's still open)


2: text format based

make a html textfield (source)
stick your text in it
look at the mytextFld.text string to find the required substring indices
make another html textfield (destination)
put your unformatted substring in it

got through the new field copying each characters the textformat from the
source texfield (using your substring start index as an offset) and applying
it to the source

the sourceFld.htmltext should now have what you're after




hope this give you more ideas (unless you've got too many options already :)

cheers,
glenn




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From: "Jayson K Hanes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Flashcoders mailing list" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function?
orsimilaridea?


Hmmm... so then... I would have to re-assemble the htmltext each time...


That's possibly not a bad idea... I'll try it!.. doesn't solve the
original goal.. but it might work well enough!

Thanks Paul!

-Jayson

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul BH
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:18 PM
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function?
> orsimilaridea?
>
> so, what you are trying to do is store information, and be able to
> display the information as html text, *and* have a maximum size of the
> stored information so that the html text doesnt get too unweildly...
>
> so, the trouble you are having is that using html is a tricky way of
> storing your information, when you want to manipulate it?
>
> so, how about you have a class that accepts html text as an input,
> each time you input it, it adds to a stack of some sort, and then the
> class has a toHTMLString(maxSize) function on it, used to generate the
> outputted html
>
> I guess what I am suggesting is that it might be easier to work with
> objects that can be combined to output html text than trying to work
> directly on the html...
>
> did that muddy the waters enough ;) ?
>
> On 1/17/06, Jayson K Hanes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes you have the issue understood! :)
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[Jayson K Hanes]

Hmmm... so then... I would have to re-assemble the htmltext each time...


That's possibly not a bad idea... I'll try it!.. doesn't solve the
original goal.. but it might work well enough!

Thanks Paul!

-Jayson

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul BH
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:18 PM
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> orsimilaridea?
> 
> so, what you are trying to do is store information, and be able to
> display the information as html text, *and* have a maximum size of the
> stored information so that the html text doesnt get too unweildly...
> 
> so, the trouble you are having is that using html is a tricky way of
> storing your information, when you want to manipulate it?
> 
> so, how about you have a class that accepts html text as an input,
> each time you input it, it adds to a stack of some sort, and then the
> class has a toHTMLString(maxSize) function on it, used to generate the
> outputted html
> 
> I guess what I am suggesting is that it might be easier to work with
> objects that can be combined to output html text than trying to work
> directly on the html...
> 
> did that muddy the waters enough ;) ?
> 
> On 1/17/06, Jayson K Hanes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes you have the issue understood! :)
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[Flashcoders] Printing "bmovie" frame on a createMovieClip clip?

[Steven Sacks]

Hey all,

In Flash 7, how would you print a "bmovie" frame in a dynamically created
movieclip using createMovieClip()?

Thanks,
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Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[Paul BH]

so, what you are trying to do is store information, and be able to
display the information as html text, *and* have a maximum size of the
stored information so that the html text doesnt get too unweildly...

so, the trouble you are having is that using html is a tricky way of
storing your information, when you want to manipulate it?

so, how about you have a class that accepts html text as an input,
each time you input it, it adds to a stack of some sort, and then the
class has a toHTMLString(maxSize) function on it, used to generate the
outputted html

I guess what I am suggesting is that it might be easier to work with
objects that can be combined to output html text than trying to work
directly on the html...

did that muddy the waters enough ;) ?

On 1/17/06, Jayson K Hanes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes you have the issue understood! :)
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius - XK
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:05 PM
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> > orsimilaridea?
> >
> > I think I understand now :)  You're looking for the last 10% of "legal
> > html"
> > or as
> > close as you can get and still be good html...  1, you'd still have to
> > parse
> > to be sure
> > the html is good..  let's try this..  We'll make yer html string a bit
> > longer..
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RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[Jayson K Hanes]

Yes you have the issue understood! :)

> -Original Message-
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius - XK
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:05 PM
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> orsimilaridea?
> 
> I think I understand now :)  You're looking for the last 10% of "legal
> html"
> or as
> close as you can get and still be good html...  1, you'd still have to
> parse
> to be sure
> the html is good..  let's try this..  We'll make yer html string a bit
> longer..
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Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[Julius - XK]

I think I understand now :)  You're looking for the last 10% of "legal html" 
or as
close as you can get and still be good html...  1, you'd still have to parse 
to be sure
the html is good..  let's try this..  We'll make yer html string a bit 
longer..


"hello world
abc123hi again world
hello worldabc123hi again world
abc123hi again world
hello worldabc123hi again world"

ok, I'm not gonna calculate what the last 10% of that string is, I'll just
grab a small section at the end..

"llo worldabc123hi again world"

We'll call that 10% for the sake of argument..  Now what you'd be looking
for out of that would be: "abc123hi again world"

no?  Am I getting it right now?  the leading  would be considered legal
so we'd leave it in?  but the "llo world" should either be left 
out,

or we need to back up to include the "- Original Message - 
From: "Jayson K Hanes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Flashcoders mailing list" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? 
orsimilaridea?



Thanks for your detailed effort, Julius, but, I'm afraid you do not
understand.

I need to be able to arbitrarily truncate and html string to maintain a
stable length, without damaging the html to the point of mucking up
flash's ability to render it.

I don't want to strip anything, I need to remove old collections of the
html data safely.

-Jayson


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius - XK
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:45 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
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orsimilaridea?

Why not just strip out tags ya don't need?  Using regex strip out
all "" and "" and/or the "" and ""
stuff..  When I first started reading this thread I was thinking along
the lines of real optomizing..  Say ya got:
"some 
face='verdana'>text

"

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Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[elibol]

Hey Jayson,

It sounds like the only problem with your algorithm is the periodical errors
it runs into, where it breaks the html. If you put some elbow grease into it
you could write a serious algorithm that analyzed the tag that was being
evaluated for the cutoff point, and, if it were within a tag that would
break if it was truncated at that point, then, you could truncate at the
highest level tag, or, substring the point of entry of the parent tag and
cut to the point of truncation (I have no idea if such a word exists.).

Here is an example of what I'm describing:

'hello a little
text here, a little text there  die   and have a nice day
'


Lets say we evaluate this string to split in half, a reduction of 50
percent, but doing this would clearly break the html, correct? So, in the
algorithm, there is an array variable that stores the opening tags of all
the tags it's within. You can then cut the string at the cut off point, take
the array of opening tags and prepend them to the string so that the html
stays intact.

So, cutting the string in half looks like this:

're, a little text there  die   and have a nice day
'

the html would break.
In the example, the array would look like this:

['']

it's the only tag the index is within, so you would take the array, join it
using '' and prepend it to the beginning of the string:


're, a little text there 
die   and have a nice day '

you can even add a little '...' string for the sake of legibility:

'...re, a little text there
 die   and have a nice day '

I hope I'm making sense, nonetheless, good luck.

H
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RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Tony]

I totally agree,

We used remoting for SNL as well. I forget the exact benchmarks we came up
with, but it was honestly about 10 times faster when using remoting.

We were moving gigantic amounts of data in some cases though, and that is
where you really see the difference.


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Thanks Grant, yeah the controls are lightweight custom components with an
event model designed to allow the kind of communication between them so that
recommended sizes can be autoselected. Uses FlashRemoting (via CF) for all
product data, pricing and options.

Often I think the blistering performance of Remoting is overlooked - it's
definitely a huge advantage of developing RIA's in Flash.

Clark




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Re: [Flashcoders] (no subject)

[Alan Shaw]

Either of these may be helpful:

DisplacementMapFilter Tutorial
http://nodename.com/blog/2006/01/16/psyarks-displacementmapfilter-tutorial/

Free Transform in Flash
http://dev.media-box.net/sandy/index.php/2005/11/01/7-distordimage-the-way-to-distord-bitmaps-by-code

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RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Merrill, Jason]

Thanks Tony - always been a big fan of your corporate site - great
design work.

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>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:13 PM
>>To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs
>>
>>Also note that this demo does not have the entire feature set of the
>>application. We wanted to put a preview version up mainly because of
the
>>fact that as the original poster said, There are not many great public
>>examples of full blown RIA's out there.
>>
>>The demo version is missing the following features that are in the
actual:
>>
>>1/ PDF report generation
>>2/ Excel Sheet export with formulas
>>3/ Branch Map Generation
>>4/ Worksheet/Workbook Save/Manage
>>5/ Canned Datasource with old data.
>>
>>To get all the goodness you have to subscribe to the service =)
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:59 PM
>>To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs
>>
>>SNL merger Model:
>>
>>http://mergers.teknision.com
>>
>>
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Merrill,
>>Jason
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:56 PM
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>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs
>>
>>Tony - I missed the url for this project you're describing - can you
>>re-send? Thanks
>>
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Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[clark slater]

Thanks Grant, yeah the controls are lightweight custom components with an
event model designed to allow the kind of communication between them so that
recommended sizes can be autoselected. Uses FlashRemoting (via CF) for all
product data, pricing and options.

Often I think the blistering performance of Remoting is overlooked - it's
definitely a huge advantage of developing RIA's in Flash.

Clark


On 17 Jan 2006 18:43:44 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Clark, are the controls (scroller, dropdown box and vertical accordian)
> entirely custom components ?
>
> very nice interface btw.
>
> grant
>
> - Original Message -
> From: clark slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> Sent: 1/17/06 12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs
>
> > Here's one we developed for a Golf Club manufacturer who sells highly
> > customized clubs directly to the public.
> >
> > http://www.gigagolf.com
> >
> > I think this is a good example of a business RIA because it makes the
> > product configuration a lot easier than an HTML version might in terms
> of
> > using the 'eFit' tools to determine best option for your measurements
> and
> > instantly recommending (and selecting) the appropriate product options.
> >
> > Clark
> >
> > On 1/17/06, matt stuehler  wrote:
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to convince a potential client that Flash is the way to go
> > > for a B2B RIA for a project it's working on, and I'd like to develop a
> > > showcase of a RIAs developed in Flash.
> > >
> > > I'm sure there are hundreds of great examples, but most of them are
> > > not public. The few available through Macromedia are OK, but not
> > > great.
> > >
> > > The ideal apps would meet two main criteria:
> > >
> > > - It should include functionality that's not reproduceable with
> > > dhtml/ajax (e.g., custom controls or interactivity)
> > >
> > > - It should be a real substantive "business"-type application (e.g.,
> > > not a pseudo-app that's really just a fancy web advertisement)
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance to anyone who can suggest a few great URLs.
> > >
> > > I'll be happy to send a list of all the URLs I receive to anyone who's
> > > interested - just send me your email address, and I'll forward all the
> > > great apps I find.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Matt Stuehler
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RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Tony]

Well, here is the team:

Wireframe, UseCases, Planning, Project Management:

Gabor Vida (Teknision)
Steve Duong (SNL)
Tony MacDonell(Teknision)
Paolo Farago (Teknision)

Graphic Design:
Steve MacKenzie(Teknision)

Flash Development:
Tony MacDonell
Stacey Muchahy (Teknision)

Java Development:
Brian Pietrewicz(SNL)
Shubham Meta(SNL)
Chetan Vig(SNL)

We had a QA team as well.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danton Chin
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:03 PM
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Tony,

How many Flash developers/designers were involved?

Regards,
Danton

Tony wrote:

>I can tell you a bit about it:
>
>It took about 7 months to complete. It was worked on from July 2004, to
>February 2005. A large amount of time was dedicated to wireframing the
>application, and doing use cases, because the original request of the
client
>was not:
>
>"We want an RIA"
>
>Instead it was:
>
>"Our app is soo powerful, but no one is using it".
>
>As a result we spent most of our time on designing a new experience for the
>application, that got final results faster, and in less steps.
>
>>From a development standpoint the client did not want to go the Flex route
>at the time. We weighed the options of using it, but neither our team nor
>their team felt comfortable enough with it then(things are a bit different
>now).
>
>We ended up building the framework for it from the ground up in Flash. The
>majority of the components are custom, other than a few textinputs and
>comboboxes.
>
>We worked with a team of 3 Java programmers from SNL that had designed the
>back-end. The app was originally done with an HTML face, but luckily it was
>totally Service Oriented. Moving it to a Flash interface was actually
pretty
>straight forward.
>
>The challenge though was not in swapping interfaces feature for feature. We
>totally redesigned the whole process of how the app worked. The Java guys
>had to add a whole new series of entry points to manage concepts we brought
>to them, like Worksheets for example. One of our main goals was to make the
>application feel nice along side of Excel, the main tool for analytics
>professionals.
>
>One of the coolest parts of the project was that we were pitted against
>another part of the company that was bent on .net and smart clients. While
>they are powerful, our application turned some heads inside the company due
>to the fact that all that was required was the Flash plug-in, as opposed to
>the .net framework download. Many people were happy with the result, and it
>has got nothing but positive feedback from those that actually use it.
>
>I can tell you more offlist if you there is anything more you want to know
>about it. 
>
>
>
>
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>stuehler
>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:39 PM
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>
>Stacey,
>
>Wow - that's really something.
>
>Great functionality, and a beautiful UI. It's BY FAR the most
>sophisticated RIA I've seen.
>
>If you don't mind me asking, how long did that take you and your team
>to build? What was the budget?
>
>Of course, if you can't share that info - no worries. I understand
>completely.
>
>My congrats and admiration for this terrific piece of work.
>
>Cheers,
>Matt
>
>
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RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[Jayson K Hanes]

Thanks for your detailed effort, Julius, but, I'm afraid you do not
understand.

I need to be able to arbitrarily truncate and html string to maintain a
stable length, without damaging the html to the point of mucking up
flash's ability to render it.

I don't want to strip anything, I need to remove old collections of the
html data safely.

-Jayson

> -Original Message-
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius - XK
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:45 PM
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function?
> orsimilaridea?
> 
> Why not just strip out tags ya don't need?  Using regex strip out
> all "" and "" and/or the "" and ""
> stuff..  When I first started reading this thread I was thinking along
> the lines of real optomizing..  Say ya got:
> "some text
> "
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RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Tony]

Also note that this demo does not have the entire feature set of the
application. We wanted to put a preview version up mainly because of the
fact that as the original poster said, There are not many great public
examples of full blown RIA's out there.

The demo version is missing the following features that are in the actual:

1/ PDF report generation
2/ Excel Sheet export with formulas
3/ Branch Map Generation
4/ Worksheet/Workbook Save/Manage
5/ Canned Datasource with old data.

To get all the goodness you have to subscribe to the service =)


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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:59 PM
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SNL merger Model:

http://mergers.teknision.com


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Jason
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Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

Tony - I missed the url for this project you're describing - can you
re-send? Thanks

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RE: [Flashcoders] How to Build a Flash Bandwidth Tester?

[Don Petersen]

It's kind of cool...  It looks like it calls some server side script
that generates a random noisy image, which it then proceeds to download:

http://chi.speakeasy.net/speedtest/random350x350.jpg

I'm guessing it probably uses MovieClipLoader, which fires off events to
give you the progress updates on downloads.  That's how they can
determine speed on the fly.  It kicks off downloading that 350x350
image(around 200k), but then it finishes with an almost 5mb generated
image.

The upload test posts a pretty sizable amount of random gibberish(200k
and then 1mb).  I'm not really sure how they track that, is there
something akin to MovieClipLoader for uploads with Flash 7?  It might
just be a timer, where they just take your Total Size / Seconds Taken...

Don Petersen

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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:54 PM
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Subject: [Flashcoders] How to Build a Flash Bandwidth Tester?

Does anyone have any ideas how this flash bandwidth tester is working?

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

It must be fetching a file from the server somehow, but how?  Also, it 
must be posting that file or some other file back to the server.

We have an application that let's our users upload files to our servers,

so we'd like to provide something like this on our website so that our 
users can test their upload speeds.  If anyone knows of an open source 
one, that would be superb.

Thanks,
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[Flashcoders] An Issue of Encapsulation

[Chris Kennon]

Hi,

If my understanding of encapsulation is misguided, please correct. In  
the following code snippet, should in the interest if encapsulation,  
the "Good Morning/Afternoon" strings be called from another function?


//code snippet

private function formatTime(theDate) {
var hour = theDate.getHours();
		var minute = theDate.getMinutes()>9 ? theDate.getMinutes() :  
"0"+theDate.getMinutes();

if (hour>12) {
			var timeString = "The current time is: " + (hour-12) +":"+minute 
+"PM," + " Good Afternoon";

} else {
			var timeString = "The current time is: " + hour+":"+minute+"AM" +  
" Good Morning";

}
return timeString;
}
}









Respectfully,
Christopher Kennon
Principal & Creative Director -Bushidodeep
www.bushidodeep.com
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Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Danton Chin]

Tony,

How many Flash developers/designers were involved?

Regards,
Danton

Tony wrote:


I can tell you a bit about it:

It took about 7 months to complete. It was worked on from July 2004, to
February 2005. A large amount of time was dedicated to wireframing the
application, and doing use cases, because the original request of the client
was not:

"We want an RIA"

Instead it was:

"Our app is soo powerful, but no one is using it".

As a result we spent most of our time on designing a new experience for the
application, that got final results faster, and in less steps.


From a development standpoint the client did not want to go the Flex route

at the time. We weighed the options of using it, but neither our team nor
their team felt comfortable enough with it then(things are a bit different
now).

We ended up building the framework for it from the ground up in Flash. The
majority of the components are custom, other than a few textinputs and
comboboxes.

We worked with a team of 3 Java programmers from SNL that had designed the
back-end. The app was originally done with an HTML face, but luckily it was
totally Service Oriented. Moving it to a Flash interface was actually pretty
straight forward.

The challenge though was not in swapping interfaces feature for feature. We
totally redesigned the whole process of how the app worked. The Java guys
had to add a whole new series of entry points to manage concepts we brought
to them, like Worksheets for example. One of our main goals was to make the
application feel nice along side of Excel, the main tool for analytics
professionals.

One of the coolest parts of the project was that we were pitted against
another part of the company that was bent on .net and smart clients. While
they are powerful, our application turned some heads inside the company due
to the fact that all that was required was the Flash plug-in, as opposed to
the .net framework download. Many people were happy with the result, and it
has got nothing but positive feedback from those that actually use it.

I can tell you more offlist if you there is anything more you want to know
about it. 





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stuehler
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

Stacey,

Wow - that's really something.

Great functionality, and a beautiful UI. It's BY FAR the most
sophisticated RIA I've seen.

If you don't mind me asking, how long did that take you and your team
to build? What was the budget?

Of course, if you can't share that info - no worries. I understand
completely.

My congrats and admiration for this terrific piece of work.

Cheers,
Matt



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[Flashcoders] Re: Flashcoders Digest, Vol 12, Issue 49

[Jeff Fox]

Thanks PR.

It actually now seems that it is an environment issue on our servers, as the
XML load works when a server is hit directly by IP, but not when resolving
through the domain name. Weirdest bug I've ever seen! Only happens in IE on
the PC too. Is IE sensitive to data being brought it when mixing application
and Web content environments?

-Jeff

Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:57:20 +0100
> From: PR Durand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] XML Data Limit in IE?
> To: Flashcoders mailing list 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi Jeff
> I sometimes had to use very long XML files, but never encountered any
> problem in IE with any XML flash had problems before IE.
> But I thought one time that there were one because I had a format error
> at the line about 30.000 , so very too far to think about an error...
> but finally the accent error was repaired and the full XML was nearly
> 50.000 lines long, and the only problem was to parse it with flash.
> PR
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RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Tony]

SNL merger Model:

http://mergers.teknision.com


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Tony - I missed the url for this project you're describing - can you
re-send? Thanks

Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com


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RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Merrill, Jason]

Tony - I missed the url for this project you're describing - can you
re-send? Thanks

Jason Merrill   |   E-Learning Solutions   |  icfconsulting.com










>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:51 PM
>>To: 'Flashcoders mailing list'
>>Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs
>>
>>I can tell you a bit about it:
>>
>>It took about 7 months to complete. It was worked on from July 2004,
to
>>February 2005. A large amount of time was dedicated to wireframing the
>>application, and doing use cases, because the original request of the
client
>>was not:
>>
>>"We want an RIA"
>>
>>Instead it was:
>>
>>"Our app is soo powerful, but no one is using it".
>>
>>As a result we spent most of our time on designing a new experience
for the
>>application, that got final results faster, and in less steps.
>>
>>>From a development standpoint the client did not want to go the Flex
route
>>at the time. We weighed the options of using it, but neither our team
nor
>>their team felt comfortable enough with it then(things are a bit
different
>>now).
>>
>>We ended up building the framework for it from the ground up in Flash.
The
>>majority of the components are custom, other than a few textinputs and
>>comboboxes.
>>
>>We worked with a team of 3 Java programmers from SNL that had designed
the
>>back-end. The app was originally done with an HTML face, but luckily
it was
>>totally Service Oriented. Moving it to a Flash interface was actually
pretty
>>straight forward.
>>
>>The challenge though was not in swapping interfaces feature for
feature. We
>>totally redesigned the whole process of how the app worked. The Java
guys
>>had to add a whole new series of entry points to manage concepts we
brought
>>to them, like Worksheets for example. One of our main goals was to
make the
>>application feel nice along side of Excel, the main tool for analytics
>>professionals.
>>
>>One of the coolest parts of the project was that we were pitted
against
>>another part of the company that was bent on .net and smart clients.
While
>>they are powerful, our application turned some heads inside the
company due
>>to the fact that all that was required was the Flash plug-in, as
opposed to
>>the .net framework download. Many people were happy with the result,
and it
>>has got nothing but positive feedback from those that actually use it.
>>
>>I can tell you more offlist if you there is anything more you want to
know
>>about it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of matt
>>stuehler
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:39 PM
>>To: Flashcoders mailing list
>>Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs
>>
>>Stacey,
>>
>>Wow - that's really something.
>>
>>Great functionality, and a beautiful UI. It's BY FAR the most
>>sophisticated RIA I've seen.
>>
>>If you don't mind me asking, how long did that take you and your team
>>to build? What was the budget?
>>
>>Of course, if you can't share that info - no worries. I understand
>>completely.
>>
>>My congrats and admiration for this terrific piece of work.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Matt
>>
>>
>>
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[Flashcoders] How to Build a Flash Bandwidth Tester?

[Jeff Mastropietro]

Does anyone have any ideas how this flash bandwidth tester is working?

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

It must be fetching a file from the server somehow, but how?  Also, it 
must be posting that file or some other file back to the server.


We have an application that let's our users upload files to our servers, 
so we'd like to provide something like this on our website so that our 
users can test their upload speeds.  If anyone knows of an open source 
one, that would be superb.


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RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Tony]

I can tell you a bit about it:

It took about 7 months to complete. It was worked on from July 2004, to
February 2005. A large amount of time was dedicated to wireframing the
application, and doing use cases, because the original request of the client
was not:

"We want an RIA"

Instead it was:

"Our app is soo powerful, but no one is using it".

As a result we spent most of our time on designing a new experience for the
application, that got final results faster, and in less steps.

>From a development standpoint the client did not want to go the Flex route
at the time. We weighed the options of using it, but neither our team nor
their team felt comfortable enough with it then(things are a bit different
now).

We ended up building the framework for it from the ground up in Flash. The
majority of the components are custom, other than a few textinputs and
comboboxes.

We worked with a team of 3 Java programmers from SNL that had designed the
back-end. The app was originally done with an HTML face, but luckily it was
totally Service Oriented. Moving it to a Flash interface was actually pretty
straight forward.

The challenge though was not in swapping interfaces feature for feature. We
totally redesigned the whole process of how the app worked. The Java guys
had to add a whole new series of entry points to manage concepts we brought
to them, like Worksheets for example. One of our main goals was to make the
application feel nice along side of Excel, the main tool for analytics
professionals.

One of the coolest parts of the project was that we were pitted against
another part of the company that was bent on .net and smart clients. While
they are powerful, our application turned some heads inside the company due
to the fact that all that was required was the Flash plug-in, as opposed to
the .net framework download. Many people were happy with the result, and it
has got nothing but positive feedback from those that actually use it.

I can tell you more offlist if you there is anything more you want to know
about it. 




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of matt
stuehler
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

Stacey,

Wow - that's really something.

Great functionality, and a beautiful UI. It's BY FAR the most
sophisticated RIA I've seen.

If you don't mind me asking, how long did that take you and your team
to build? What was the budget?

Of course, if you can't share that info - no worries. I understand
completely.

My congrats and admiration for this terrific piece of work.

Cheers,
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Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[Julius - XK]

Why not just strip out tags ya don't need?  Using regex strip out
all "" and "" and/or the "" and ""
stuff..  When I first started reading this thread I was thinking along
the lines of real optomizing..  Say ya got:
"some text
"

which should be optomized to:
"some text"

This could be a chore, but just ripping out tags..  that would be easy..

Something you could do is look into XMLToObject..  Run that on the
html string and then pull out all the data it spits out..  If ya look into a
"traceObject" you can get an idea on how to traverse what xmlToObject
spits out.

For an example, your "hello world
abc123hi again world" after ran through xmlToObject
spits out this...

br: [object Object]
  i: [object Object]
 br: [object Object]
br: [object Object]
   data: undefined
   attributes: undefined
data: hi again world<--
attributes: undefined
 data: abc123 <--
 attributes: undefined
  data: null
  attributes: undefined
font: [object Object]
  b: [object Object]
 data: hello world   <--
 attributes: undefined
  data: null
  attributes: undefined
 face: verdana

You could traverse this object to get what ya want..
Using just the data's and br's you'd get:

"hello worldabc123hi again world"

We could call this your 10% call...  But let's not..
Let's call this "level 1", or max reduction cuz I'd assume
you'd at least want the 's   but you could replace
's with spaces and call that the max reduction or
"level 1"..   Now we can build a "level 2" model..  if it's
in a "b" or "i" object, wrap the text with the appropreate
tags..  "level 3" could be to allow levels 1 and 2, and
font tags..  ect..  Also, with this method you could strip
attributes..  like allowing font color changes, but not
the font family..

This is prolly how I'd go about doing what your asking..
All I used was "xmlToObject" and "traceObject" to get
to this point..  You could also rework the xmlToObject
to spit out what you want..  Hope this helps :)







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From: "Jayson K Hanes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Flashcoders mailing list" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? 
orsimilaridea?



Say I have this htmltext

"hello worldabc123hi again
world"

And it is being appended with other html lines over time, but no two
lines are the same, nor is there a pattern of 's being a common
separator per 'line'.

I want to be able to execute something like
myHtmlText=myHtmlText.reduce(10);

And have it become something like:

"abc123hi again world"

Seeing as that's the lowest amount closest to 10% reduction it could be
trimmed to without breaking the html output when displayed...

If it was:

"hi again world"

It wouldn't work as needed.. and would paralyze an htmltext box from
showing anymore text from that point forward.

Even if just a 50% reduction could be worked out easily.. that'd at
least be functional..

Do you see now the dilemma?

-Jayson


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elibol
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:25 PM
To: Flashcoders mailing list
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function?
orsimilaridea?

I hate to impose, but my curiousity is forcing me to question: what is

the

reason for html reduction? How does a regular html tag look compared

to a

reduced one? What exactly does the algorithm do?

I apologize for side tracking, I hope you find the answer you're

looking

for
Jayson.

H

On 1/17/06, Jayson K Hanes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks gunnar.. I've used regex stuff for simple string

manipulation..

> but I can't see how it could be applied to arbitrarily reduce the

length

> of an html string??.. at least.. not without a lot of work?
>
> -Jayson
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:flashcoders-

> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gunnar Reinseth
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:19 AM
> > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function?

or

> > similaridea?
> >
> > You should definetly be looking into regular expressions. The
> following
> > could be wrapped up in a utility class and help build your method:
> >
> > var regex:RegExp = /<.*?>.*?<\/.*?>/g;
> > var str:String = myHtmlTextBox.text; // or wherever you get your
> source
> > text
> > var result:Object = regexp.exec(str);
> > while(result != null) {
> >   trace(result.index + ", " + result);
> >   // Place the result in a new string or array and do whatever
> >   // processing you'd like
> >   result = regex.exec(str);
> > }
> >
> > Useful info:
> > http://www.regular-expressions.info
> > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/labs/1/flex/langref/RegExp.html
> >
> > cheers,
> > gunnar
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [Flashcoders] photo mosaics

[Corban Baxter]

No one has replied to this post of mine so I am wondering if there is a
better way to describe what I am doing could it be some thing else I
need to look into first to accomplish this? Thanks!

Corban Baxter


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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:50 AM
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Subject: [Flashcoders] photo mosaics

Hey guys do you all by chance remember seeing a site that used flash to
create photo mosaics of an image you upload to the site. I am looking to
do the same thing but I am not sure where to start. I have this database
with about 3,000 images I'd like to use to make photo mosaics out of.
Does anyone remember the site for one and for two know of any tutorials
that would get me started in creating this application. Thanks for the
help everyone!

Corban Baxter


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[Flashcoders] Preloader not working in IE

[Johnny Zen]

Hi all

I have a preloader displays ok in Firefox but not in IE

In IE I just get a red X frame which stays until the flashmovie has
completly loaded.

Can anyone suggest why it does this?

Johnny
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RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[Jayson K Hanes]

I have a real-time monitoring projector that I use to keep tabs on the
status of servers.

The data pulled via socket is html.. I keep it open 24x7 and only care
about the last few hours of live data.. the rest is logged anyway.

It would be similar to how one would want to manage a chat history..

-Jayson

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elibol
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:06 PM
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function?
> orsimilaridea?
> 
> I understand what it does, but I still don't understand what it's for;
I'm
> still interested if you're willing to further exemplify where it would
be
> used.
> 
> H
> 
> 
> On 1/17/06, Jayson K Hanes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > One thing I've done in the past is to prepend new htmltxt with a
fake
> > tag, such as "<~~>" and use that as my means to search for, then
> > substring after it.
> >
> > It's just slow and clumsy.
> >
> > -Jayson
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Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[elibol]

I think I understand now, if you have a large html text body and you want to
truncate it so that only a blurb of the whole is displayed, you could use,
say, 10 with the reduce(10) function, and have only 10 percent of the text
displayed? Or 10 percent of the text truncated? I feel like I could be right
on, and totally off too...

H
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Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[elibol]

I understand what it does, but I still don't understand what it's for; I'm
still interested if you're willing to further exemplify where it would be
used.

H


On 1/17/06, Jayson K Hanes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One thing I've done in the past is to prepend new htmltxt with a fake
> tag, such as "<~~>" and use that as my means to search for, then
> substring after it.
>
> It's just slow and clumsy.
>
> -Jayson
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jayson K Hanes
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:33 PM
> > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function?
> > orsimilaridea?
> >
> > Say I have this htmltext
> >
> > "hello worldabc123hi
> again
> > world"
> >
> > And it is being appended with other html lines over time, but no two
> > lines are the same, nor is there a pattern of 's being a common
> > separator per 'line'.
> >
> > I want to be able to execute something like
> > myHtmlText=myHtmlText.reduce(10);
> >
> > And have it become something like:
> >
> > "abc123hi again world"
> >
> > Seeing as that's the lowest amount closest to 10% reduction it could
> be
> > trimmed to without breaking the html output when displayed...
> >
> > If it was:
> >
> > "hi again world"
> >
> > It wouldn't work as needed.. and would paralyze an htmltext box from
> > showing anymore text from that point forward.
> >
> > Even if just a 50% reduction could be worked out easily.. that'd at
> > least be functional..
> >
> > Do you see now the dilemma?
> >
> > -Jayson
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] Cross platform text woes

[Bill Numerick]

Use styles to control the sizes of the fonts.  I had the same issue on a cd
project using system fonts and that solved it.

On 1/17/06, Karina Steffens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi List,
>
> I'm developing this CD-Rom for schools and it's supposed to work on both
> PC
> and the Mac.  The (current..) trouble is, that very occasionally, the
> dynamic textfield on the Mac doesn't work properly, cutting off some words
> and sentences in the middle, and either forcing them to the next line or
> leaving the rest out entirely. At least this is what the client reports.
> This is happening extremely rarely - maybe once or twice -  in a very big
> cd-rom with a huge amount of data, but my client is getting shirty about
> it.
>
>
> All the text is coming from XML files and edited in Sepy (on the PC). The
> text fields themselves are using device fonts (_serif) and are html
> formatted and selectable.
>
> Any ideas what might be causing it?
>
> Thanks,
> Karina
>
>
> Karina Steffens  |  Neo-Archaic
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>  www.neo-archaic.net
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[Flashcoders] VerticalScroll

[Juan Anzaldo]

I need to do a vertical infoscroll with 3 fields
(title, image and desc) 
  title
 
||
|(image) |
||
 
 desc
x
  title
 
||
|(image) |
||
 
 desc
I want to do some atractive, diferent, but i dont have
any ideas, could you help me with links with good
examples of scrolls?
tnx



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RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[Jayson K Hanes]

One thing I've done in the past is to prepend new htmltxt with a fake
tag, such as "<~~>" and use that as my means to search for, then
substring after it.

It's just slow and clumsy.

-Jayson


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jayson K Hanes
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:33 PM
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function?
> orsimilaridea?
> 
> Say I have this htmltext
> 
> "hello worldabc123hi
again
> world"
> 
> And it is being appended with other html lines over time, but no two
> lines are the same, nor is there a pattern of 's being a common
> separator per 'line'.
> 
> I want to be able to execute something like
> myHtmlText=myHtmlText.reduce(10);
> 
> And have it become something like:
> 
> "abc123hi again world"
> 
> Seeing as that's the lowest amount closest to 10% reduction it could
be
> trimmed to without breaking the html output when displayed...
> 
> If it was:
> 
> "hi again world"
> 
> It wouldn't work as needed.. and would paralyze an htmltext box from
> showing anymore text from that point forward.
> 
> Even if just a 50% reduction could be worked out easily.. that'd at
> least be functional..
> 
> Do you see now the dilemma?
> 
> -Jayson
> 
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Re: [Flashcoders] FileReference, file location

[Kamyar Nazeri]

Yeah, that's what I've done myself

I don't understand what security is this when user has chosen the file himself, 
getting file location is already possible in HTML under user command


"bryan.rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
On Jan 17, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Kamyar Nazeri wrote:

> Ain't it possible to get location of the browsed file using browse  
> method of FileReference class?


Nope.  That would violate the security sandbox.  You are going to  
have to upload first and then display it.

blue skies,
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Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[matt stuehler]

Stacey,

Wow - that's really something.

Great functionality, and a beautiful UI. It's BY FAR the most
sophisticated RIA I've seen.

If you don't mind me asking, how long did that take you and your team
to build? What was the budget?

Of course, if you can't share that info - no worries. I understand completely.

My congrats and admiration for this terrific piece of work.

Cheers,
Matt



On 1/17/06, Stacey Mulcahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We did one for the financial sector that deals with business mergers.
> Canned demo is here :
> http://63.88.61.59/demo/
>
> You can also check more about on Tony's blog -
> http://www.teknision.blogspot.com/
> http://teknision.blogspot.com/2005/12/snl-merger-model-demo-update.html
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Meinte van't
> Kruis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:03 AM
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs
>
> on a sidenote:
>
> Why are YOU convinced that flash is the way to go for a B2B RIA?
>
> perhaps if you answer that one, you can better convince the client.
> (and convince me while you're at it ;) )
>
> On 1/17/06, matt stuehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I'm trying to convince a potential client that Flash is the way to go
> > for a B2B RIA for a project it's working on, and I'd like to develop a
> > showcase of a RIAs developed in Flash.
> >
> > I'm sure there are hundreds of great examples, but most of them are
> > not public. The few available through Macromedia are OK, but not
> > great.
> >
> > The ideal apps would meet two main criteria:
> >
> > - It should include functionality that's not reproduceable with
> > dhtml/ajax (e.g., custom controls or interactivity)
> >
> > - It should be a real substantive "business"-type application (e.g.,
> > not a pseudo-app that's really just a fancy web advertisement)
> >
> > Many thanks in advance to anyone who can suggest a few great URLs.
> >
> > I'll be happy to send a list of all the URLs I receive to anyone who's
> > interested - just send me your email address, and I'll forward all the
> > great apps I find.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Matt Stuehler
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RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? orsimilaridea?

[Jayson K Hanes]

Say I have this htmltext

"hello worldabc123hi again
world"

And it is being appended with other html lines over time, but no two
lines are the same, nor is there a pattern of 's being a common
separator per 'line'.

I want to be able to execute something like
myHtmlText=myHtmlText.reduce(10);

And have it become something like:

"abc123hi again world"

Seeing as that's the lowest amount closest to 10% reduction it could be
trimmed to without breaking the html output when displayed...

If it was:

"hi again world"

It wouldn't work as needed.. and would paralyze an htmltext box from
showing anymore text from that point forward.

Even if just a 50% reduction could be worked out easily.. that'd at
least be functional.. 

Do you see now the dilemma?

-Jayson

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elibol
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:25 PM
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function?
> orsimilaridea?
> 
> I hate to impose, but my curiousity is forcing me to question: what is
the
> reason for html reduction? How does a regular html tag look compared
to a
> reduced one? What exactly does the algorithm do?
> 
> I apologize for side tracking, I hope you find the answer you're
looking
> for
> Jayson.
> 
> H
> 
> On 1/17/06, Jayson K Hanes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks gunnar.. I've used regex stuff for simple string
manipulation..
> > but I can't see how it could be applied to arbitrarily reduce the
length
> > of an html string??.. at least.. not without a lot of work?
> >
> > -Jayson
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:flashcoders-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gunnar Reinseth
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:19 AM
> > > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function?
or
> > > similaridea?
> > >
> > > You should definetly be looking into regular expressions. The
> > following
> > > could be wrapped up in a utility class and help build your method:
> > >
> > > var regex:RegExp = /<.*?>.*?<\/.*?>/g;
> > > var str:String = myHtmlTextBox.text; // or wherever you get your
> > source
> > > text
> > > var result:Object = regexp.exec(str);
> > > while(result != null) {
> > >   trace(result.index + ", " + result);
> > >   // Place the result in a new string or array and do whatever
> > >   // processing you'd like
> > >   result = regex.exec(str);
> > > }
> > >
> > > Useful info:
> > > http://www.regular-expressions.info
> > > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/labs/1/flex/langref/RegExp.html
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > gunnar
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jayson
> > K
> > > Hanes
> > > Sent: 17. januar 2006 01:54
> > > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > > Subject: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? or
> > similar
> > > idea?
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any divine wisdom for safely and efficiently
> > "reducing"
> > > an htmltext string down in size?
> > >
> > > I've been using old code for a while that simply loops looking for
> > html
> > > tags.. and if it's a known "paired" tag set (like font), looks for
the
> > > closing tag, and then, substring's from that point onward (thus
> > removing
> > > everything ahead of the last complete tag set), and effectively
> > reducing
> > > the overall size of the htmltext so that it doesn't forever build
in
> > > size, and in turn bring flash to its knees if the string gets too
> > long.
> > >
> > > The problem with this is its slow... and risky..
> > >
> > > sometimes.. it fails to match a paired set.. and the output into
the
> > > flash textbox breaks -- that is -- no more appended text will be
seen
> > > from that point onward.. and the box appears "Dead" because of
broken
> > > tags.
> > >
> > > Ideally for me at least.. a function could be called such as:
> > >
> > > myHtmlTextBox=myHtmlTextBox.reduce(10);
> > >
> > > whereby 10 is used such that the result has about 90% remaining
(which
> > > is obviously a challenge because of the variable lengths of tag
> > > groupings among formatted html..)
> > >
> > > Any ideas? This is a hard topic to google and search the archives
> > with..
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > -Jayson
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Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[matt stuehler]

Wow, these are two TERRIFIC apps - exactly the type of thing I was
looking for. Many thanks. I'll start a list - if anyone wants me to
send the final results, just send me an email.

Re: Meinte's question (which is a great one) - I don't really have a
good answer. I generally believe there's a small sweet-spot between
what dhtml/ajax does best, and what a true destop app (e.g., vc++)
does best, where Flash is the best option.

For me at least, it's hard to define a general rule (maybe you know it
when you see it) - but its when you need more custom UI controls or
complex interactivity than dhtml can provide, but not as much
horsepower as a desktop app provides. It's also key when you have a
large, dispersed user base, not much control over the desktop, and
plan frequent revisions and updates (all of which make an installed
desktop app too expensive or difficult to maintain).

Anway, thanks again to clark and stacey for showing this great work.

Cheers,
Matt





On 17 Jan 2006 18:43:44 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Clark, are the controls (scroller, dropdown box and vertical accordian) 
> entirely custom components ?
>
> very nice interface btw.
>
> grant
>
> - Original Message -
> From: clark slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> Sent: 1/17/06 12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs
>
> > Here's one we developed for a Golf Club manufacturer who sells highly
> > customized clubs directly to the public.
> >
> > http://www.gigagolf.com
> >
> > I think this is a good example of a business RIA because it makes the
> > product configuration a lot easier than an HTML version might in terms of
> > using the 'eFit' tools to determine best option for your measurements and
> > instantly recommending (and selecting) the appropriate product options.
> >
> > Clark
> >
> > On 1/17/06, matt stuehler  wrote:
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to convince a potential client that Flash is the way to go
> > > for a B2B RIA for a project it's working on, and I'd like to develop a
> > > showcase of a RIAs developed in Flash.
> > >
> > > I'm sure there are hundreds of great examples, but most of them are
> > > not public. The few available through Macromedia are OK, but not
> > > great.
> > >
> > > The ideal apps would meet two main criteria:
> > >
> > > - It should include functionality that's not reproduceable with
> > > dhtml/ajax (e.g., custom controls or interactivity)
> > >
> > > - It should be a real substantive "business"-type application (e.g.,
> > > not a pseudo-app that's really just a fancy web advertisement)
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance to anyone who can suggest a few great URLs.
> > >
> > > I'll be happy to send a list of all the URLs I receive to anyone who's
> > > interested - just send me your email address, and I'll forward all the
> > > great apps I find.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Matt Stuehler
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Re: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? or similaridea?

[elibol]

I hate to impose, but my curiousity is forcing me to question: what is the
reason for html reduction? How does a regular html tag look compared to a
reduced one? What exactly does the algorithm do?

I apologize for side tracking, I hope you find the answer you're looking for
Jayson.

H

On 1/17/06, Jayson K Hanes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks gunnar.. I've used regex stuff for simple string manipulation..
> but I can't see how it could be applied to arbitrarily reduce the length
> of an html string??.. at least.. not without a lot of work?
>
> -Jayson
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gunnar Reinseth
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:19 AM
> > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? or
> > similaridea?
> >
> > You should definetly be looking into regular expressions. The
> following
> > could be wrapped up in a utility class and help build your method:
> >
> > var regex:RegExp = /<.*?>.*?<\/.*?>/g;
> > var str:String = myHtmlTextBox.text; // or wherever you get your
> source
> > text
> > var result:Object = regexp.exec(str);
> > while(result != null) {
> >   trace(result.index + ", " + result);
> >   // Place the result in a new string or array and do whatever
> >   // processing you'd like
> >   result = regex.exec(str);
> > }
> >
> > Useful info:
> > http://www.regular-expressions.info
> > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/labs/1/flex/langref/RegExp.html
> >
> > cheers,
> > gunnar
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jayson
> K
> > Hanes
> > Sent: 17. januar 2006 01:54
> > To: Flashcoders mailing list
> > Subject: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? or
> similar
> > idea?
> >
> > Does anyone have any divine wisdom for safely and efficiently
> "reducing"
> > an htmltext string down in size?
> >
> > I've been using old code for a while that simply loops looking for
> html
> > tags.. and if it's a known "paired" tag set (like font), looks for the
> > closing tag, and then, substring's from that point onward (thus
> removing
> > everything ahead of the last complete tag set), and effectively
> reducing
> > the overall size of the htmltext so that it doesn't forever build in
> > size, and in turn bring flash to its knees if the string gets too
> long.
> >
> > The problem with this is its slow... and risky..
> >
> > sometimes.. it fails to match a paired set.. and the output into the
> > flash textbox breaks -- that is -- no more appended text will be seen
> > from that point onward.. and the box appears "Dead" because of broken
> > tags.
> >
> > Ideally for me at least.. a function could be called such as:
> >
> > myHtmlTextBox=myHtmlTextBox.reduce(10);
> >
> > whereby 10 is used such that the result has about 90% remaining (which
> > is obviously a challenge because of the variable lengths of tag
> > groupings among formatted html..)
> >
> > Any ideas? This is a hard topic to google and search the archives
> with..
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Jayson
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RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? or similaridea?

[Jayson K Hanes]

Thanks gunnar.. I've used regex stuff for simple string manipulation..
but I can't see how it could be applied to arbitrarily reduce the length
of an html string??.. at least.. not without a lot of work?

-Jayson

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gunnar Reinseth
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:19 AM
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? or
> similaridea?
> 
> You should definetly be looking into regular expressions. The
following
> could be wrapped up in a utility class and help build your method:
> 
> var regex:RegExp = /<.*?>.*?<\/.*?>/g;
> var str:String = myHtmlTextBox.text; // or wherever you get your
source
> text
> var result:Object = regexp.exec(str);
> while(result != null) {
>   trace(result.index + ", " + result);
>   // Place the result in a new string or array and do whatever
>   // processing you'd like
>   result = regex.exec(str);
> }
> 
> Useful info:
> http://www.regular-expressions.info
> http://livedocs.macromedia.com/labs/1/flex/langref/RegExp.html
> 
> cheers,
> gunnar
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jayson
K
> Hanes
> Sent: 17. januar 2006 01:54
> To: Flashcoders mailing list
> Subject: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? or
similar
> idea?
> 
> Does anyone have any divine wisdom for safely and efficiently
"reducing"
> an htmltext string down in size?
> 
> I've been using old code for a while that simply loops looking for
html
> tags.. and if it's a known "paired" tag set (like font), looks for the
> closing tag, and then, substring's from that point onward (thus
removing
> everything ahead of the last complete tag set), and effectively
reducing
> the overall size of the htmltext so that it doesn't forever build in
> size, and in turn bring flash to its knees if the string gets too
long.
> 
> The problem with this is its slow... and risky..
> 
> sometimes.. it fails to match a paired set.. and the output into the
> flash textbox breaks -- that is -- no more appended text will be seen
> from that point onward.. and the box appears "Dead" because of broken
> tags.
> 
> Ideally for me at least.. a function could be called such as:
> 
> myHtmlTextBox=myHtmlTextBox.reduce(10);
> 
> whereby 10 is used such that the result has about 90% remaining (which
> is obviously a challenge because of the variable lengths of tag
> groupings among formatted html..)
> 
> Any ideas? This is a hard topic to google and search the archives
with..
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Jayson
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Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[grant]

Clark, are the controls (scroller, dropdown box and vertical accordian) 
entirely custom components ?

very nice interface btw.

grant

- Original Message -
From: clark slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Sent: 1/17/06 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

> Here's one we developed for a Golf Club manufacturer who sells highly
> customized clubs directly to the public.
> 
> http://www.gigagolf.com
> 
> I think this is a good example of a business RIA because it makes the
> product configuration a lot easier than an HTML version might in terms of
> using the 'eFit' tools to determine best option for your measurements and
> instantly recommending (and selecting) the appropriate product options.
> 
> Clark
> 
> On 1/17/06, matt stuehler  wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I'm trying to convince a potential client that Flash is the way to go
> > for a B2B RIA for a project it's working on, and I'd like to develop a
> > showcase of a RIAs developed in Flash.
> >
> > I'm sure there are hundreds of great examples, but most of them are
> > not public. The few available through Macromedia are OK, but not
> > great.
> >
> > The ideal apps would meet two main criteria:
> >
> > - It should include functionality that's not reproduceable with
> > dhtml/ajax (e.g., custom controls or interactivity)
> >
> > - It should be a real substantive "business"-type application (e.g.,
> > not a pseudo-app that's really just a fancy web advertisement)
> >
> > Many thanks in advance to anyone who can suggest a few great URLs.
> >
> > I'll be happy to send a list of all the URLs I receive to anyone who's
> > interested - just send me your email address, and I'll forward all the
> > great apps I find.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Matt Stuehler
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Re: [Flashcoders] XML Data Limit in IE?

[PR Durand]

Hi Jeff
I sometimes had to use very long XML files, but never encountered any 
problem in IE with any XML flash had problems before IE.
But I thought one time that there were one because I had a format error 
at the line about 30.000 , so very too far to think about an error... 
but finally the accent error was repaired and the full XML was nearly 
50.000 lines long, and the only problem was to parse it with flash.

PR


Jeff Fox a écrit :


Thinking about my previous post regarding XML data not loading in IE, I was
wondering if anyone had encountered a data limit with XML in IE, similar to
the 255 byte limit of getURL in IE6. This is just a wild theory, but since
there is an odd bug for one, maybe there is for the other here as well.
ANyone run into something that would support this? If so, how do we solve
it?

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RE: [Flashcoders] setting a movieclips symbol

[Corban Baxter]

Hey the easiest way is to use attachMovie for the entire thing. When you make a 
call like...

myMovie.attachMovie("banana");

and  then call later

myMovie.attachMovie("apple");

the content in myMovie will be replace with what ever you are telling it to 
attach this will keep from the banana staying in the file when you call the 
apple the apple will completely erase all content in myMovie and replace it 
with the apple.

I hope this all makes sense.

Corban Baxter  |  rich media designer  |  www.funimation.com


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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:34 AM
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Subject: [Flashcoders] setting a movieclips symbol

hiya -

would appreciate some help on basic AS movieclip coding.

I am trying to change the graphic that a movieclip displays, eg change 
it to point to a different library symbol.

i cant find a method something like:
movieClip.setSymbol( "symbolName" );

do i have to use movieClip.attach() to some kind of base item, then 
destroy them (remove) them later and attach again something else to 
switch to a new item?
Also, myself i have to keep track of this depth parameter? (this reminds 
me of doing my own memory management in C decades ago).

I must be missing some basic function, this seems very convoluted.

Thanks!

/dc

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[Flashcoders] photo mosaics

[Corban Baxter]

Hey guys do you all by chance remember seeing a site that used flash to
create photo mosaics of an image you upload to the site. I am looking to
do the same thing but I am not sure where to start. I have this database
with about 3,000 images I'd like to use to make photo mosaics out of.
Does anyone remember the site for one and for two know of any tutorials
that would get me started in creating this application. Thanks for the
help everyone!

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Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[clark slater]

Here's one we developed for a Golf Club manufacturer who sells highly
customized clubs directly to the public.

http://www.gigagolf.com

I think this is a good example of a business RIA because it makes the
product configuration a lot easier than an HTML version might in terms of
using the 'eFit' tools to determine best option for your measurements and
instantly recommending (and selecting) the appropriate product options.

Clark

On 1/17/06, matt stuehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I'm trying to convince a potential client that Flash is the way to go
> for a B2B RIA for a project it's working on, and I'd like to develop a
> showcase of a RIAs developed in Flash.
>
> I'm sure there are hundreds of great examples, but most of them are
> not public. The few available through Macromedia are OK, but not
> great.
>
> The ideal apps would meet two main criteria:
>
> - It should include functionality that's not reproduceable with
> dhtml/ajax (e.g., custom controls or interactivity)
>
> - It should be a real substantive "business"-type application (e.g.,
> not a pseudo-app that's really just a fancy web advertisement)
>
> Many thanks in advance to anyone who can suggest a few great URLs.
>
> I'll be happy to send a list of all the URLs I receive to anyone who's
> interested - just send me your email address, and I'll forward all the
> great apps I find.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt Stuehler
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[Flashcoders] setting a movieclips symbol

[dc]

hiya -

would appreciate some help on basic AS movieclip coding.

I am trying to change the graphic that a movieclip displays, eg change 
it to point to a different library symbol.


i cant find a method something like:
   movieClip.setSymbol( "symbolName" );

do i have to use movieClip.attach() to some kind of base item, then 
destroy them (remove) them later and attach again something else to 
switch to a new item?
Also, myself i have to keep track of this depth parameter? (this reminds 
me of doing my own memory management in C decades ago).


I must be missing some basic function, this seems very convoluted.

Thanks!

/dc

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RE: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Stacey Mulcahy]

We did one for the financial sector that deals with business mergers. 
Canned demo is here :
http://63.88.61.59/demo/

You can also check more about on Tony's blog -
http://www.teknision.blogspot.com/
http://teknision.blogspot.com/2005/12/snl-merger-model-demo-update.html



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Kruis
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 11:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

on a sidenote:

Why are YOU convinced that flash is the way to go for a B2B RIA?

perhaps if you answer that one, you can better convince the client.
(and convince me while you're at it ;) )

On 1/17/06, matt stuehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I'm trying to convince a potential client that Flash is the way to go
> for a B2B RIA for a project it's working on, and I'd like to develop a
> showcase of a RIAs developed in Flash.
>
> I'm sure there are hundreds of great examples, but most of them are
> not public. The few available through Macromedia are OK, but not
> great.
>
> The ideal apps would meet two main criteria:
>
> - It should include functionality that's not reproduceable with
> dhtml/ajax (e.g., custom controls or interactivity)
>
> - It should be a real substantive "business"-type application (e.g.,
> not a pseudo-app that's really just a fancy web advertisement)
>
> Many thanks in advance to anyone who can suggest a few great URLs.
>
> I'll be happy to send a list of all the URLs I receive to anyone who's
> interested - just send me your email address, and I'll forward all the
> great apps I find.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt Stuehler
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Re: [Flashcoders] embed SWF with PHP

[Meinte van't Kruis]

the mx3d.com example seems a bit ill-chosen, since one can simply 'save as'
the php file and
end up with the SWF file just as easily on the desktop (in firefox anyway).

On 1/17/06, Nathan Derksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A DOM viewer, such as the one that comes with Firefox, can easily
> allow you to get the URL of anything on the page, dynamic or not. To
> my knowledge, there is no way of hiding from that. You can then put
> that URL directly in the address bar, and retrieve the SWF file with
> save as...
>
> Nathan
> http://www.nathanderksen.com
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2006, at 6:43 AM, Mike Britton wrote:
>
> > Pumping the object and embed tags into a DIV's innerHTML using AJAX
> > is one
> > possibility.  You could also write the object and embed tags with an
> > external JavaScript.  This would prevent the source from being
> > viewed and is
> > probably an easier option given its all on the client.
> >
> > It's impossible to completely hide your swf filename, and
> > techniques for
> > preventing caching are dodgy at best.  If anyone knows how to make
> > swfs
> > un-obfuscatable I'd like to hear their approaches.
> >
> > hth
> >
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Re: [Flashcoders] embed SWF with PHP

[XemonerdX]

You can still download http://www.mx3d.com/mov.php, change the
extension to .swf and open it like any other swf. Not hard at all.

Edwin
PoeticTerror.Com

On 1/17/06, Mark Radose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey does anyone know how to embed a swf into a page using php. I'm basically
> trying to find a way to hide the swfs url  from the user so that it can't be
> saved (I'll have to stop it from caching also.)
>
> I've seen it done before on thi site. www.mx3d.com. Theres basically a php
> script that writes the name of the swf and when you load php page directly
> you are presented with the swf but when you view the source it gives you
> some bytecode.
>
> It looks like a pretty safe way from preventing anyone getting to your swf
> in the first place
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Re: [Flashcoders] FLASH8 IDE BUG: Swf Panels

[Matt Sandberg]

I am also having this issue (MX2004 7.2).  My guess is that it comes 
down to whether you use the Extension Manager or not.  I build them in 
the WindowSWF folder hardly ever use the Extension Manager for my own 
panels. If there are only a couple panels installed they seem to work 
fine, but when I have more than 3 or 4, I get the same quasi-randomness 
that you described.   However when co-workers install the panels using 
the Extension Manager, they never have that problem.


Matt

clark slater wrote:


Hey Folks,

I have this problem with my F8 IDE install which is driving me nuts. In the
lower pane of the Window->Other Panels dialog I have several swfpanels I
have developed along with the NetConnection Debugger. Every time I choose a
panel, a completely random panel will open. Well not *completely* random,
coz it's never the one I want!

This same bug was in FMX2004, then seemed to get fixed in the 7.2 updater
but it's most definitely back in F8. Seems like it's triggered by having the
NetConnection Debugger present, because on my colleagues machines (who are
designers hence no NetDebugger) they don't have this problem, though they do
have several other swfPanels to choose from.

Has anyone come across a way to fix this loopy issue?

Cheers,

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Re: [Flashcoders] FileReference, file location

[bryan.rice]

On Jan 17, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Kamyar Nazeri wrote:

Ain't it possible to get location of the browsed file using browse  
method of FileReference class?



Nope.  That would violate the security sandbox.  You are going to  
have to upload first and then display it.


blue skies,
bryan
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Re: [Flashcoders] embed SWF with PHP

[Nathan Derksen]

A DOM viewer, such as the one that comes with Firefox, can easily  
allow you to get the URL of anything on the page, dynamic or not. To  
my knowledge, there is no way of hiding from that. You can then put  
that URL directly in the address bar, and retrieve the SWF file with  
save as...


Nathan
http://www.nathanderksen.com


On Jan 17, 2006, at 6:43 AM, Mike Britton wrote:

Pumping the object and embed tags into a DIV's innerHTML using AJAX  
is one

possibility.  You could also write the object and embed tags with an
external JavaScript.  This would prevent the source from being  
viewed and is

probably an easier option given its all on the client.

It's impossible to completely hide your swf filename, and  
techniques for
preventing caching are dodgy at best.  If anyone knows how to make  
swfs

un-obfuscatable I'd like to hear their approaches.

hth

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RE: [Flashcoders] [Flash Remoting MX]->null

[Adrian Lynch]

ColdFusion sometimes errors with a null point exception. This might eb the
remoting equivalent.

Ade

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Subject: [Flashcoders] [Flash Remoting MX]->null


What does:-

 [Flash Remoting MX]->null

in the coldfusion server Flash Remoting log mean?


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[Flashcoders] (Repost) Php data exchange worked in F7, breaks in F8

[Marc Hoffman]

[Re-posting. Please, can anyone help with this? Thanks!]

At 11:27 AM 1/16/2006, you wrote:

This is a case where data exchange works in Flash 7 but not in Flash 
8. I've seen lots of articles on this, but they're either extremely 
complicated or don't quite seem applicable (in part due to my 
ignorance, I'm sure). Can someone please point me toward a specific 
fix? Please read on to understand the exact circumstances.


I inherited a Flash site that exchanges data with an apache server 
via php, using sendReceive. In the swfs, users select features for a 
product and their order is placed in one of several vendor 
databases. Everything is on the same domain, but the vendor 
databases are on subdomains such as vendorA.acmeSales.com, 
vendorB.acmeSales.com, etc. My client and the vendor can access the 
data using a Flash to display the features the user selected.


This worked in Flash 7, but Flash 8 will not exchange data with the database.

Do I need cross-domain xml files on the server? If so, what to write 
and where?


Do I need to set permissions in the Flash movies? If so, in just the 
root movie or in all loaded movies? What is the necessary code?


Anything else?

thanks,
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[Flashcoders] XML Data Limit in IE?

[Jeff Fox]

Thinking about my previous post regarding XML data not loading in IE, I was
wondering if anyone had encountered a data limit with XML in IE, similar to
the 255 byte limit of getURL in IE6. This is just a wild theory, but since
there is an odd bug for one, maybe there is for the other here as well.
ANyone run into something that would support this? If so, how do we solve
it?

-Jeff
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Re: [Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[Meinte van't Kruis]

on a sidenote:

Why are YOU convinced that flash is the way to go for a B2B RIA?

perhaps if you answer that one, you can better convince the client.
(and convince me while you're at it ;) )

On 1/17/06, matt stuehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I'm trying to convince a potential client that Flash is the way to go
> for a B2B RIA for a project it's working on, and I'd like to develop a
> showcase of a RIAs developed in Flash.
>
> I'm sure there are hundreds of great examples, but most of them are
> not public. The few available through Macromedia are OK, but not
> great.
>
> The ideal apps would meet two main criteria:
>
> - It should include functionality that's not reproduceable with
> dhtml/ajax (e.g., custom controls or interactivity)
>
> - It should be a real substantive "business"-type application (e.g.,
> not a pseudo-app that's really just a fancy web advertisement)
>
> Many thanks in advance to anyone who can suggest a few great URLs.
>
> I'll be happy to send a list of all the URLs I receive to anyone who's
> interested - just send me your email address, and I'll forward all the
> great apps I find.
>
> Cheers,
> Matt Stuehler
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[Flashcoders] Question concerning the structure of Movie Clip buttons...

[Chad Ostroff]

Hey all... Decieded to stop being a lurker and to try and get some  
help with clearing my head on somethings I have been getting stuck on  
repeatedly.


First of all if I am using a movie clip as a button, it is made up  
of  a vector rectangle on the lowest layer and an instance of a  
transparent button on the layer above.
What I am doing then is dropping instances of my button_mc on my  
stage in the root timeline. Then I am adding instances of another  
movie clip ( my rollover animation) that is aligned with each  
button_mc on the root timeline as well. I can't get around using   
this poor arrangement of functions for my perfectly fading rollOver_mc.


//these controll the roll over movie clips
//
this.myRoll1_mc.onEnterFrame = function() {
if (roll1) {
this.nextFrame();
} else {
this.prevFrame();
}
};

//these are the events for the button_mc
//--
myButton1_mc.onRollOver = function() {
roll1 = true;
this.useHandCursor = false;
};
myButton1_mc.onRollOut =  
myButton_mc.onDragOut=myButton_mc.onReleaseOutside=function () {

roll1 = false;
this.pressed = false;
};
myButton1_mc.onPress = function() {
this.pressed = true;
};
myButton1_mc.onRelease = function() {
this.enabled = false;
myRoll1_mc.gotoAndStop("pressed");
};

//---


I basically write this for 8 different button_mcs and 8 different  
rollOver_mcs.  Would it be easier and more effectiver to build the  
rollOver_mc inside of the button_mc?
I cannot make it work any other way... Oh and I have some other  
functioins built into it like a reset buttons function but those are  
no matter to me as I really want this core button functionallity in  
place before continuing to work around my efficiency problem or  
maybe I am being to anal-retentive???


Thanks in advance for any and all response.

Chad
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[Flashcoders] Public examples of Business RIAs

[matt stuehler]

All,

I'm trying to convince a potential client that Flash is the way to go
for a B2B RIA for a project it's working on, and I'd like to develop a
showcase of a RIAs developed in Flash.

I'm sure there are hundreds of great examples, but most of them are
not public. The few available through Macromedia are OK, but not
great.

The ideal apps would meet two main criteria:

- It should include functionality that's not reproduceable with
dhtml/ajax (e.g., custom controls or interactivity)

- It should be a real substantive "business"-type application (e.g.,
not a pseudo-app that's really just a fancy web advertisement)

Many thanks in advance to anyone who can suggest a few great URLs.

I'll be happy to send a list of all the URLs I receive to anyone who's
interested - just send me your email address, and I'll forward all the
great apps I find.

Cheers,
Matt Stuehler
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[Flashcoders] Flash dev job in NYC

[Sara Spalding]

> Transmedia (the creators of glide effortless - www.glidedigital.com)
> are looking for a senior flash developer in NYC.  If you're
> interested, let me know and I'll introduce.
> 
> -Sara
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[Flashcoders] Automated interface testing

[Robert Chyko]

Anyone have any information on automated interface testing software that
can work with Flash interfaces?  As we transition more and more of our
interface to Flash, our testing department is having a harder time
writing their automated testing scripts.  Apparently the only way they
can currently work with Flash interfaces is to use mouse coordinates to
automate a click.
 
Anyone have any experience in this regards?
 
Thanks
 
 
Bob Chyko
Software Application Developer 
DocFinity(r) by Optical Image Technology, Inc.
100 Oakwood Avenue Suite 700, State College, PA  16803
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RE: [Flashcoders] Focus in the text field

[Martin Klasson]

One problem might be that you haven't set focus on the swf itself.
An other thing is that you might have forgotten to set it to "input"

Try a simple fla file, and set the function which sets the focus later
on the timeline, so you have time to click in the swf.

Then you will see it work.
If the swf doesn't get focus first, the textfield will have focus and be
ready for input, but the marker is not blinking.
-THAT is true for doing a Test Movie inside flash.

In a browser, you have to focus the swf before being able to make use of
the Selection.setFocus.
 

but


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Sorry

 I am using simple swf file 

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I am using flash 8 

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Hi

I am facing the same problem

Selection.setFocus(text_txt);
trace(Selection.setFocus(text_txt))

The trace return false . But u can type in the textbox without selecting
it.It means the focus is in the text box.
But cursor is not visible.

Regards
Tarjinder

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What value does Selection.setFocus(text_txt) return? If it's false, then
is failed.


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[Flashcoders] Flash dev job in NYC

[Sara Spalding]

Transmedia (the creators of glide effortless - www.glidedigital.com) are
looking for a senior flash developer in NYC.  If you're interested, let
me know and I'll introduce.

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Re: [Flashcoders] Calling Java Script window.open from wihin projector

[eric dolecki]

Why not simply call an HTML page - and in THAT page's onLoad have the page
resize and center itself? I haven't tried it but in theory it could work?

edolecki

On 1/17/06, Tamer Qarrain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> After trying everything possible to make QTVRS work inside Flash 8, we
> finally agreed with the client that the best way to do it is to call an
> html
> page with QTVRs embedded.
> I am having difficulties trying to call a JavaScript function that will
> make
> the Html centered from the exe flash 8 projector file!
> Code below on a button for instance:
> getURL("javascript:NewWindow=window.open('AMIR.html
> ','newWin','width=450,hei
>
> ght=300,left=100,top=100,toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,status=No,resi
> zable=No,fullscreen=No'); NewWindow.focus(); void(0);");
>
> I know that the above code wont work, does anyone know of any possible
> quick
> solution?
>
> Appreciatively
>
> Tamer Qarrain
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[Flashcoders] FlashInspector - clear method ??

[Jens Krause]

The FlashInspector (
http://www.luminicbox.com/blog/default.aspx?page=post&id=2) is a great tool,
but I'm missing one feature:

How can I access the clear method of the button named "CLEAR" at the
FlashInspector.swf. When I re-exported I'd like to have a "cleared"
Inspector.
Have someone an idea?

Thanks!
sectore
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[Flashcoders] Calling Java Script window.open from wihin projector

[Tamer Qarrain]

After trying everything possible to make QTVRS work inside Flash 8, we
finally agreed with the client that the best way to do it is to call an html
page with QTVRs embedded.
I am having difficulties trying to call a JavaScript function that will make
the Html centered from the exe flash 8 projector file!
Code below on a button for instance:
getURL("javascript:NewWindow=window.open('AMIR.html','newWin','width=450,hei
ght=300,left=100,top=100,toolbar=No,location=No,scrollbars=No,status=No,resi
zable=No,fullscreen=No'); NewWindow.focus(); void(0);");

I know that the above code wont work, does anyone know of any possible quick
solution?

Appreciatively

Tamer Qarrain
Technical Manager
Mob: 079 5995656
Office:06-5522826




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[Flashcoders] FileReference, file location

[Kamyar Nazeri]

Hi list,  Ain't it possible to get location of the browsed file using browse 
method of FileReference class?
  I'm using FileReference class to upload an image on the server, but the 
problem is that I need to show the user a preview of the image before upload.
  I wish it was possible to have a .location property for a FileReference 
instance or at the very least MovieClip.loadMovie or MovieClipLoader.loadClip 
methods could accept FileReference object as parameters so that it could be 
possible to load browsed file within flash player!
Any help?
Kamyar Nazeri


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Re: [Flashcoders] embed SWF with PHP

[Mike Britton]

Pumping the object and embed tags into a DIV's innerHTML using AJAX is one
possibility.  You could also write the object and embed tags with an
external JavaScript.  This would prevent the source from being viewed and is
probably an easier option given its all on the client.

It's impossible to completely hide your swf filename, and techniques for
preventing caching are dodgy at best.  If anyone knows how to make swfs
un-obfuscatable I'd like to hear their approaches.

hth

Mike
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Re: [Flashcoders] Obfuscation

[Latcho]

common' man-> firefox->page-info->media->whatever.swf -> save as

One thing that people don't consider is that
You don't need to obfuscate if people can not access the SWF
In the first place


1) use SSL + prevent caching in the HTTP header
   -> no SWF in the browser cache

or

2) instead of pointing to foobar.swf in the Object/Embed tag
   point to getBinary.php /getBinary.asp / whatever
   + prevent caching in the HTTP header
   -> no SWF in the browser cache


It's complicated to put in place, but the result is
No SWF in the browser cache to decompile

2) off course is still not 100% safe against people being able
to detect a SWF stream with a HTTP sniffer

but the solution 1) well.. almost unbeatable

zwetan



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[Flashcoders] Cross platform text woes

[Karina Steffens]

Hi List,
 
I'm developing this CD-Rom for schools and it's supposed to work on both PC
and the Mac.  The (current..) trouble is, that very occasionally, the
dynamic textfield on the Mac doesn't work properly, cutting off some words
and sentences in the middle, and either forcing them to the next line or
leaving the rest out entirely. At least this is what the client reports.
This is happening extremely rarely - maybe once or twice -  in a very big
cd-rom with a huge amount of data, but my client is getting shirty about it.

 
All the text is coming from XML files and edited in Sepy (on the PC). The
text fields themselves are using device fonts (_serif) and are html
formatted and selectable.
 
Any ideas what might be causing it?
 
Thanks,
Karina
 
 
Karina Steffens  |  Neo-Archaic
creative & technical new media design
  www.neo-archaic.net
 
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[Flashcoders] using a named array element as a var for input text field

[BOYD SPEER]

This one has me stumped.. maybe someone knows how to use a named array element 
as a var in an input text field. 

I have an array named formdata. The array elements are named as in 
 formdata["companyname"] =  "";

I have a separate array that just lists the names as in
 formkey = new Array("companyname","clientcontact",...etc..);

I use this array so I can refer to the first array elements either by their 
name, or by using this syntax:   

function storeclientinfo(){
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Re: [Flashcoders] FlashMattic -My Hebrew Flash Blog

[Yotam Laufer]

Danny,

You switch keyboard layouts like you would with any other multi lingual
setup on either mac or pc and you have the option to change the page
direction to RTL. Numbers, English and panctuation behaves as expected
theoritically, meaning that numbers for instance will be entered from left
to right even when your page is right to left. This usually works... In my
experience though it's always a bitch working with mixed inputs.

You need an operating system which supports BIDI and ofcourse BIDI
applications for heavy duty work.

Windows and Mac OS support RTL out of the box, your problem is usually the
applications.

Yotam.

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> I've checked them and replied at my blog.
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>   I saw on your blog a webcam game, well Chk :
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Re: [Flashcoders] md5 in AS3

[Alias]

On a related note, has anyone written a message digest attack
algorithm for AS3? ;)

http://www.cits.rub.de/MD5Collisions/

Cheers,
Alias

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RE: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? or similar idea?

[Gunnar Reinseth]

You should definetly be looking into regular expressions. The following
could be wrapped up in a utility class and help build your method:

var regex:RegExp = /<.*?>.*?<\/.*?>/g;
var str:String = myHtmlTextBox.text; // or wherever you get your source
text
var result:Object = regexp.exec(str);
while(result != null) {
trace(result.index + ", " + result);
// Place the result in a new string or array and do whatever 
// processing you'd like
result = regex.exec(str);
}

Useful info:
http://www.regular-expressions.info
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/labs/1/flex/langref/RegExp.html

cheers,
gunnar

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Subject: [Flashcoders] efficient htmltext.reduce() function? or similar
idea?

Does anyone have any divine wisdom for safely and efficiently "reducing"
an htmltext string down in size?

I've been using old code for a while that simply loops looking for html
tags.. and if it's a known "paired" tag set (like font), looks for the
closing tag, and then, substring's from that point onward (thus removing
everything ahead of the last complete tag set), and effectively reducing
the overall size of the htmltext so that it doesn't forever build in
size, and in turn bring flash to its knees if the string gets too long.

The problem with this is its slow... and risky..

sometimes.. it fails to match a paired set.. and the output into the
flash textbox breaks -- that is -- no more appended text will be seen
from that point onward.. and the box appears "Dead" because of broken
tags.

Ideally for me at least.. a function could be called such as:

myHtmlTextBox=myHtmlTextBox.reduce(10);

whereby 10 is used such that the result has about 90% remaining (which
is obviously a challenge because of the variable lengths of tag
groupings among formatted html..)

Any ideas? This is a hard topic to google and search the archives with..


Thanks!

-Jayson

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Re: [Flashcoders] standalone+amfphp doesn't work

[Gabriel]

thanks Cosmin, I have F8. The problem you could be, BUT, all the time it 
refers to loading movies between movies. My main movie loads the 
internal movies, but I can't connect with amfphp.
In another post Michael, mentions "AMF protocol uses HHTP headers that 
are available only on browser" I think, this could be more accurate, but 
what is the solution

what do you think?


Gabriel

Cosmin Cimpoi wrote:

If you have flash player 8 then check this out about local swf security:
http://cosmincimpoi.blogspot.com/2005/12/security-changes-in-flash-player-8.html 


You'll probably need to export with "access network only".

cosmin

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nope...windows

JesterXL wrote:

Is it a Mac projector?

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What do you mean by "full path"? I have 
"http://...etc../gateway.php"; and its working in the browser in the 
same computer


Anthony Covert wrote:


Do you have a full path to your gateway in the Service Browser?

You should be able to view the working service directly in flash.

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Hi all,
I have a standalone movie connecting to amfphp.
It doesn't connect or have response from it, but it does if I open 
the swf with the browser...


any idea?


thanks a lot...
Gab



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