RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-devel- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mathias Fröhlich Sent: 22 October 2004 06:37 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier On Donnerstag 21 Oktober 2004 09:11,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trajectory show when replay?

2004-10-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Vivian Meazza wrote: Submodels can do a fair imitation of this. The F16 has/had an experimental version. Erik? Yes, although I'm not yet satisfied with the result you can enable it by specifying: --prop:/systems/submodels/submodel/smoke=true Erik ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] SGPropertyNodes are making fun of me ! (fgcommands)

2004-10-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Boris Koenig wrote: But running the mentioned fgcommand directly via a simple commandmycommand/command binding in menubar.xml works fine, however as soon as I either start providing several parameters within one property node, OR as soon as I try to run the very same fgcommand using

Re: [Flightgear-devel] new version 0.9.6, always bugs

2004-10-22 Thread Antonio Pennino
From: Ampere K. Hardraade [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [Flightgear-devel] new version 0.9.6, always bugs Date sent: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:14:32 -0400 Send reply to:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ray Tracing

2004-10-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: SDL isn't the only thing that is needed. I've got the following error: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I apt-get the libstdc++6 package, but the error is still there. you can

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] [PATCH] classifying development status of aircraft extending fgrun

2004-10-22 Thread Boris Koenig
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On October 20, 2004 10:05 pm, Boris Koenig wrote: Personally, I'd hence still prefer getting everything and being able to tell FlightGear what maturity level I require for all aircraft minimally. I'm sure your method of showing maturity of aircrafts will come in handy,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] [PATCH] classifying development status of aircraft extending fgrun

2004-10-22 Thread Boris Koenig
Oops, I forgot to add the patch for options.xml -- Boris --- options.xml.origFri Oct 22 10:01:51 2004 +++ ../options.xml Fri Oct 22 08:50:27 2004 @@ -420,6 +420,42 @@ /option option + !--in order to allow users to specify a minimum development status for aircraft, +

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread David Luff
On 10/21/04 at 6:44 PM Martin Spott wrote: David Luff wrote: You need either 2.4.x (the latest stable version) or 2.5.x (2.5.2 definately works), the latest unstable version. 2.2.x doesn't work unfortunately, I think I use parts of the api that weren't present then. Since 2.3.3 is an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Jon Stockill
Martin Spott wrote: I presume (from reminding past threads on this list) that several of these user-submitted airports are supposed to represent disused airfields on the British territory. Are these submissions consistent with the following table ? http://dss.ucar.edu/datasets/ds900.0/data/pre73

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread David Luff
On 10/22/04 at 10:25 AM Jon Stockill wrote: If that's supposed to be disused airfields then there's definitely a problem - I think a lot of people would notice if heathrow was closed :-) Yeah, everyone who could drive round that side of the M25 without getting stuck in a traffic jam for a

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Trim quotes

2004-10-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Paul Surgeon -- Friday 22 October 2004 00:48: I've got a couple of basic rules that I try stick to. Maybe they will help others a bit. 1. Try to only quote what the last guy said - remove all the 2nd hand and older quotes 2. Strip all the quoting out that you are not replying to and

RE: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
David Luff wrote If that's supposed to be disused airfields then there's definitely a problem - I think a lot of people would notice if heathrow was closed :-) Yeah, everyone who could drive round that side of the M25 without getting stuck in a traffic jam for a change ;-) Don't bet

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Trim quotes

2004-10-22 Thread Jon Berndt
5. Put your answer *under* the quoted text, not on top. Rationale: A: No. Q: Should I include quotations after my reply? A: Top posters Q: What is the most annoying thing on mailing lists? m. ;-) This one's not really a big deal to me. It's good to post replies on the bottom

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Spott
David Luff wrote: Unfortunately 2.3.3 is the only one that's available as freeware- package for IRIX OK, I'll build that version on Linux and see if I can get TaxiDraw to build against it. Wait a moment, I'm currently - right in this moment - trying to build a 2.4.2 version of 'wxX11'

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Trim quotes

2004-10-22 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Berndt -- Friday 22 October 2004 13:51: I'd dislike seeing a really long discussion (which I'd been following) with a reply at the bottom - forcing me to change panes and scroll down rather than simply viewing sequential emails in the preview window (with the new content at the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Trim quotes

2004-10-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: Trying to educate people is like fighting against windmills, though. Hehe :-) Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Jon, Jon Stockill wrote: Martin Spott wrote: http://dss.ucar.edu/datasets/ds900.0/data/pre73 I asking simply because I'm trying to gather evidence that the data on that page is really valid. If that's supposed to be disused airfields then there's definitely a problem - I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Other segfaults -- the same? (was Re: segfault in AI code)

2004-10-22 Thread David Luff
On 10/21/04 at 12:19 PM Chris Metzler wrote: Here's what I see from gdb . . . snip Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 3690)] 0x080b0705 in FGTower::ProcessDownwindReport (this=0xd041ee8, t=0xd87d8c8) at AIPlane.hxx:80 80

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Spott
David Luff wrote: OK, I'll build that version on Linux and see if I can get TaxiDraw to build against it. Let's see, I made an IRIX binary: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/taxidraw-0.2.0-IRIX.bz2 Some freeware packages might be required: sirius: 16:16:53

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Spott
Jon Stockill wrote: Possibly, although there are a number on that list that definitely aren't closed (yet). I'll cross check some of the info when I get home to see how accurate it is. I appreciate your effort, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread David Luff
On 10/22/04 at 2:20 PM Martin Spott wrote: Let's see, I made an IRIX binary: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/taxidraw-0.2.0-IRIX.bz2 Some freeware packages might be required: sirius: 16:16:53 /usr/local/src/TaxiDraw-0.2.0 ldd taxidraw libX11.so.1 =

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: David Luff wrote: OK, I'll build that version on Linux and see if I can get TaxiDraw to build against it. Let's see, I made an IRIX binary: Oh, great, it actually works :-) Now, here comes the next feature request I have a tiny image which represents my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now, here comes the next feature request Speaking about feature requests, do you considered using libcurl instead of wget to fetch images ? That would remove those ugly console popup on windows. I will see what I can do in this direction. The fetch

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Trim quotes

2004-10-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote: I'd dislike seeing a really long discussion (which I'd been following) with a reply at the bottom - forcing me to change panes and scroll down rather than simply viewing sequential emails in the preview window (with the new content at the beginning of the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Sent: 22 October 2004 06:37 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier On Donnerstag 21 Oktober 2004 09:11, Vivian Meazza wrote: Yesterday I put together some code which outputs the Lat/Lon/Alt of the hook

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Spott
David Luff wrote: Yes, that and airport data (unzipped). TaxiDraw-0.2.2 source is on my site now BTW. ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/taxidraw-0.2.2-IRIX.bz2 Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Speaking about feature requests, do you considered using libcurl instead of wget to fetch images ? That would remove those ugly console popup on windows. To my impression there is already some sort pf HTTP support in wxWidgets, but I don't have any idea if it is of any

RE: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Norman Vine
Frederic Bouvier writes: Quoting Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now, here comes the next feature request Speaking about feature requests, do you considered using libcurl instead of wget to fetch images ? That would remove those ugly console popup on windows. I will see what I

RE: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Norman Vine : Frederic Bouvier writes: Quoting Martin Spott : Now, here comes the next feature request Speaking about feature requests, do you considered using libcurl instead of wget to fetch images ? That would remove those ugly console popup on windows. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: David Luff wrote: Yes, that and airport data (unzipped). TaxiDraw-0.2.2 source is on my site now BTW. ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/taxidraw-0.2.2-IRIX.bz2 I still have to get used to you providing binaries for me ... ;-) Erik (Thanks)

RE: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Norman Vine
Frederic Bouvier writes: Quoting Norman Vine : The attached should be easily modified for what you want todo Thank you Norman. I guess it is GPL code. Public Domain -- no strings attached From what project does it come from ? http://remotesensing.org/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=2 N

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread David Luff
On 10/22/04 at 5:11 PM Frederic Bouvier wrote: Speaking about feature requests, do you considered using libcurl instead of wget to fetch images ? That would remove those ugly console popup on windows. It's on my TODO list, since wget isn't widely installed on Windows. Patches would of course

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread David Luff
On 10/22/04 at 2:51 PM Martin Spott wrote: Oh, great, it actually works :-) :-))) Now, here comes the next feature request I have a tiny image which represents my favourite airport. I can make JPEG out of it and load it into TaxiDraw. I even can see it in TaxiDraw - but I don't have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread David Luff
On 10/22/04 at 3:34 PM Martin Spott wrote: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/taxidraw-0.2.2-IRIX.bz2 Martin, thanks very much, that's fantastic! Cheers - Dave This message has been scanned but we cannot guarantee that it and any attachments are free from viruses or other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/taxidraw-0.2.2-IRIX.bz2 I still have to get used to you providing binaries for me ... You're welcome to be honest: You did a LOT to ease my life with FlightGear on the Octane! BTW, I love to automate

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Oh, I just realized I built an R12k binary. Does it work for you ? Yep. Although I had one crash this afternoon. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:11:18 +0200 Frederic Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now, here comes the next feature request Speaking about feature requests, do you considered using libcurl instead of wget to fetch images ? That would remove those ugly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Spott
David Luff wrote: No problem, I'll make this the next new feature implemented. Oh, great ! I am confident these improvements will turn turn TaxiDraw from a great tool into a fine tool. For instance we could suggest loading of PDF-files instead of JPEG only Right, I'm just joking, but not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New airport data available

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Oh, I just realized I built an R12k binary. Does it work for you ? Yep. Although I had one crash this afternoon. I put an r5k binary at the same place, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Trim quotes

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Friday, 22 October 2004 11:48, Melchior FRANZ wrote: 4. Don't remove or mix up the attribution lines. What is an attribution line? 5. Put your answer *under* the quoted text, not on top. Rationale: Yes sir! :) A: Top posters Q: What is the most annoying thing on mailing lists?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trajectory show when replay?

2004-10-22 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 21 October 2004 22:10, Vivian Meazza wrote: [snip...] You can do it right now by setting the velocity to zero, buoyancy to 32 and wind to false. Then you need to create a suitable marker in /models/geometry (use puff.ac to prove the principle), and put the path in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trim quotes

2004-10-22 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 21 October 2004 22:47, Jon S Berndt wrote: Would it be grumpy of me to suggest that we try a little harder to trim quotes when replying with quotes? I've noticed that there are several emails today with 100 to 200 lines of quoted material, followed by anywhere from a few lines to

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Trajectory show when replay?

2004-10-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Lee wrote: [snip...] You can do it right now by setting the velocity to zero, buoyancy to 32 and wind to false. Then you need to create a suitable marker in /models/geometry (use puff.ac to prove the principle), and put the path in the submodel.xml file. Oh, and set the delay to

RE: [Flightgear-devel] status of aircraft carrier

2004-10-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
I wrote: Yesterday I put together some code which outputs the Lat/Lon/Alt of the hook tip when extended. Norman Vine kindly pointed me at the SG conversion function, so I now have output in X,Y,Z. I'm using great chunks of submodel code, much of which is redundant in this

[Flightgear-devel] BGL-file with unknown content

2004-10-22 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, I have a (ZIP-)file floating around on a disk that I must have found somwhere on the net (the file, not the disk ;-) in the past and I don't know what's inside. After extracting there are two directories, 'scenery/' and 'texture/'. Does anyone have the software to read these files and

[Flightgear-devel] Aerial images

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Surgeon
When I fired up FlightGear a week ago I noticed that the textures looked very dry and brown to me. I thought San Francisco would be a lot greener and reckoned it was just the guys who created the textures. Tonight I was thinking of making some greener looking grass textures for the airports

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Trim quotes

2004-10-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Perhaps it is time we think about moving on to something a bit more advance, such as a phpBB board? We don't have to worry about trimming headers, trimming quotes, or top/bottom posting then. Ampere On October 22, 2004 05:48 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Paul Surgeon -- Friday 22 October 2004

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BGL-file with unknown content

2004-10-22 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Saturday, 23 October 2004 00:26, Martin Spott wrote: Hello, I have a (ZIP-)file floating around on a disk that I must have found somwhere on the net (the file, not the disk ;-) in the past and I don't know what's inside. After extracting there are two directories, 'scenery/' and