[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Rascal README.Rascal, NONE,

2005-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Curt, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Rascal In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv29111 Added Files: README.Rascal Rascal110-set.xml Rascal110.xml rascal-electrical.xml thumbnail.jpg [...] flight-modelyasim/flight-model

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Rascal README.Rascal, NONE,

2005-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: I'm very much surprised to see that you intend to use YASim for an aircraft, that you want to model based on existing flight data. Do you actually expect YASim to be the right tool for that job or is it simply leftover from using the Cub layout as basis ? I might miss the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Rascal README.Rascal, NONE,

2005-11-30 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: I'm very much surprised to see that you intend to use YASim for an aircraft, that you want to model based on existing flight data. Do you actually expect YASim to be the right tool for that job or is it simply leftover from using the Cub layout as basis ? I might miss the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Lockheed1049/Models

2005-11-27 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Lockheed1049/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv7950/Models Modified Files: Lockheed1049_twa.xml Log Message: Thierry: Sets correctly the VRP at the nose : Yep, the VRP appears actually to be located at

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Lockheed1049/Models

2005-11-27 Thread Dave Culp
On Sunday 27 November 2005 05:19 pm, Martin Spott wrote: Sets correctly the VRP at the nose : Yep, the VRP appears actually to be located at the nose, but the offset to the CG is still missing :-) Have a try, look at the aircraft from an outside view (chase view w/o yaw), activate the HUD

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Lockheed1049 - New

2005-11-23 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Lockheed1049 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv14998/Lockheed1049 Log Message: Directory /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Lockheed1049 added to the repository The Constellation looks pretty nice, but has a

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/c182 c182-set.xml, 1.6,

2005-11-10 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/c182 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv2788 Modified Files: c182-set.xml I can't resist the suspicion that there's something wrong with the 3D model. At least I get the glider to see and I yet didn't find yout why.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/c182 c182-set.xml, 1.6,

2005-11-10 Thread Buchanan, Stuart
--- Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't resist the suspicion that there's something wrong with the 3D model. At least I get the glider to see and I yet didn't find yout why. Several XML files and the AC file do have DOS line endings but this doesn't cause the trouble I've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/c182 c182-set.xml, 1.6,

2005-11-10 Thread Erik Hofman
Buchanan, Stuart wrote: Have you synced Instruments-3d ? The new C182 model requires the new yoke, flaps and trimwheel that I submitted at the same time. I assume they were all checked in at the same time. Oops, they hadn't. Erik ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/c182 c182-set.xml, 1.6,

2005-11-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: I can't resist the suspicion that there's something wrong with the 3D model. At least I get the glider to see and I yet didn't find yout why. Several XML files and the AC file do have DOS line endings but this doesn't cause the trouble I've already removed all of them,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2005-11-10 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Martin Spott wrote: I can't resist the suspicion that there's something wrong with the 3D model. At least I get the glider to see and I yet didn't find yout why. Several XML files and the AC file do have DOS line endings but this doesn't cause the trouble I've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/ATC

2005-10-26 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: I have the impression that the changes to the FlightGear subtree didn't make it into CVS - at least they didn't appear on checkout. Am I the only one who misses these changes ? Silly me: I set a Tag in my CVS tree last week Sorry, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/ATC AIEntity.cxx, 1.12,

2005-10-25 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/ATC In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv30924/src/ATC [...] * Use const string rather than string in function calls when appropriate. [...] I have the impression that the changes to the FlightGear subtree didn't make it into CVS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/ATC AIEntity.cxx, 1.12,

2005-10-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: I have the impression that the changes to the FlightGear subtree didn't make it into CVS - at least they didn't appear on checkout. Am I the only one who misses these changes ? I guess so, the CVS changelog was sent out to me by mail. Erik

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Systems vacuum.cxx, 1.7,

2005-10-15 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Systems In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv25673 Modified Files: vacuum.cxx vacuum.hxx Log Message: Allow a single vacuum system to be driven by multiple pumps. That's fine. This topic becomes even more interesting

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/sr20 sr20-set.xml, NONE, 1.1

2005-10-09 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/sr20 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv4330/Aircraft/sr20 Added Files: sr20-set.xml Log Message: Add some missing files. I'd suggest these changes to get things going: --- data/Aircraft/sr20/sr20-set.xml~Sat Oct

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/sr20 sr20-set.xml, NONE, 1.1

2005-10-09 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/sr20 In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv4330/Aircraft/sr20 Added Files: sr20-set.xml Log Message: Add some missing files. I'd suggest these changes to get things going: Ehm, allright. Done. Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-06 Thread Erik Hofman
Dave Culp wrote: This sounds more like HAA (height above airport) or HAT (height above touchdown). Height AGL should be the current height above the ground directly below the aircraft. Height AGL should change as the terrain below the aircraft changes. What would expect the HUD to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-06 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Erik Hofman: Dave Culp wrote: This sounds more like HAA (height above airport) or HAT (height above touchdown). Height AGL should be the current height above the ground directly below the aircraft. Height AGL should change as the terrain below the aircraft changes. What

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-06 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: So the HUD is displaying the height for the last known QFE ? I think so. I suppose it just a barometric instrument with a digital display. It is synchronized by ATC reports. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-06 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Curt, Is on my todo list for tomorrow (friday) since I saw Melchior's patch. Greetings Mathias On Dienstag 04 Oktober 2005 20:52, Curtis L. Olson wrote: For what it's worth, I don't like this patch. It shouldn't make much difference on 24/32 bit cards, which is probably most

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-06 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Dienstag 04 Oktober 2005 22:17, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Curtis L. Olson -- Tuesday 04 October 2005 22:02: You've been granted CVS commit access so use your best judgement. Yes. I don't usually touch such things, because I don't understand much of this. I did it anyway, because: - this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-05 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Curtis L. Olson -- Tuesday 04 October 2005 22:22: Somewhere since the last release, that got broke and it must get fixed. If that was fixed you wouldn't be seeing a hole in the carrier deck. The bug was AFAIK there ever since we have helicopters. The same holes were

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-05 Thread Dave Culp
So what basically happens now is that at the (startup) airport the AGL would be reported correctly, but once the terrain elevation increases the reported AGL won't change (like in real life). This sounds more like HAA (height above airport) or HAT (height above touchdown). Height AGL should

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
For what it's worth, I don't like this patch. It shouldn't make much difference on 24/32 bit cards, which is probably most everyone now anyway, but I think there is a different problem brewing somewhere. I haven't had time to look into it, but the AGL reading on the HUD no longer reads

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Tuesday 04 October 2005 20:52: For what it's worth, I don't like this patch. I find the hole more annoying. Unfortunately, I can't fix what you think is the real problem. Shall I revert for now? m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Curtis L. Olson -- Tuesday 04 October 2005 20:52: For what it's worth, I don't like this patch. I find the hole more annoying. Unfortunately, I can't fix what you think is the real problem. Shall I revert for now? I'm not saying the hole isn't annoying,

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Tuesday 04 October 2005 22:02: You've been granted CVS commit access so use your best judgement. Yes. I don't usually touch such things, because I don't understand much of this. I did it anyway, because: - this change was already in cvs since a great while, and only had

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-04 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Curtis L. Olson -- Tuesday 04 October 2005 22:02: You've been granted CVS commit access so use your best judgement. Yes. I don't usually touch such things, because I don't understand much of this. I did it anyway, because: - this change was already in cvs

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main renderer.cxx, 1.27, 1.28

2005-10-04 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Tuesday 04 October 2005 22:22: Somewhere since the last release, that got broke and it must get fixed. If that was fixed you wouldn't be seeing a hole in the carrier deck. The bug was AFAIK there ever since we have helicopters. The same holes were on rooftops. m.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/c150/Models/Vintage

2005-09-25 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/c150/Models/Vintage In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv14308/Models/Vintage Added Files: README.TXT c150-01.rgb c150-02.rgb c150-int.rgb c150-int2.rgb Log Message: Add Mark Miller's c150 vintage look livery. (See

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2005-09-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: No such message as this one ? cc-1020 cc: ERROR File = arch/irix/iris.c, Line = 415 The identifier AL_FORMAT_QUAD8_LOKI is undefined. case AL_FORMAT_QUAD8_LOKI: Ah, yes, now that you mention it. You will need to add #include AL/alext.h right after AL/al.h Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2005-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: You will need to add #include AL/alext.h right after AL/al.h Yep, looks good adding to that I suggest to replace alut.h with alext.h or simply remove it in simgear/sound/sample_openal.hxx, line 50, maybe line 47 as well as alut now lives in a separate tree in the OpenAL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2005-09-16 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: Yep, looks good adding to that I suggest to replace alut.h with alext.h or simply remove it in simgear/sound/sample_openal.hxx, line 50, maybe line 47 as well as alut now lives in a separate tree in the OpenAL source, O.k., I see, this is the wrong approach

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear configure.ac, 1.94, 1.95

2005-09-15 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Erik, Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv29428 Modified Files: configure.ac Log Message: Prepare for OpenAL 1.1 and a separate alut lubrary. Did you actually manage to compile current OpenAL CVS on IRIX ? Cheers,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear configure.ac, 1.94, 1.95

2005-09-15 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Hello Erik, Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv29428 Modified Files: configure.ac Log Message: Prepare for OpenAL 1.1 and a separate alut lubrary. Did you actually manage to compile current OpenAL CVS on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2005-09-15 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Did you actually manage to compile current OpenAL CVS on IRIX ? Sure, just make sure there are no old headers (and library) installed somewhere and do a fresh make (dist)clean and make install. No such message as this one ? cc-1020 cc: ERROR File =

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/b1900d b1900d-set.xml, 1.6,

2005-09-12 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/b1900d In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv4749 Modified Files: b1900d-set.xml b1900d-sound.xml b1900d.xml Log Message: Syd Adams: Here are some updates to the b1900d: The panel looks pretty nice it's just

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/BAC-TSR2/Models

2005-08-14 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/BAC-TSR2/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv26968/Models Modified Files: BAC-TSR2-model.xml [...] I really like this aircraft - it spreads some sort of 'charisma', very much like the Concorde ! Thanks,

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/Citation/Panel

2005-08-07 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/Citation/Panel In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv18501/Panel Added Files: Citation-II-panel.xml adf-radio.xml dme-40.xml radios.xml transparent-bg.rgb Log Message: Syd Adams: Changes to the Citation II:

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/gui style.xml, 1.2, 1.3

2005-07-09 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior Franz wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/gui In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv29971 Ich seh' schon, waehrend die Mehrheit in Urlaub faehrt, baust Du in der Zwischenzeit den halben FlightGear um :-) Tschuess, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/gui style.xml, 1.2, 1.3

2005-07-09 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Saturday 09 July 2005 11:51: Ich seh' schon, waehrend die Mehrheit in Urlaub faehrt, baust Du in der Zwischenzeit den halben FlightGear um :-) No, I'm not going to rewrite fgfs while the others are on vacation. :-) Although these changes look extensive, they aren't really.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/utils/GPSsmooth Makefile.am,

2005-07-07 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/utils/GPSsmooth In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv20421 Modified Files: Makefile.am Log Message: Fix another dependency. [...] GPSsmooth_LDADD = \ ! -lsgtiming -lsgmisc -lsgdebug -lplibnet -lplibul \

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/utils/GPSsmooth Makefile.am,

2005-07-07 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Solaris needs '$(X_EXTRA_LIBS)' as well to resolve dependencies that are introduced by '-lplibnet', Does $(opengl_LIBS) work as well? Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/utils/GPSsmooth Makefile.am, 1.1,

2005-07-06 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/utils/GPSsmooth In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv15890 Modified Files: Makefile.am Log Message: Attempt to add -lwinmm for windows builds (untested.) I'd like to suggest another fix, as the IRIX build lacks -lm, which

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/utils/GPSsmooth Makefile.am,

2005-07-06 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/utils/GPSsmooth In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv8203 Modified Files: Makefile.am Log Message: IRIX fixes. Thanks - works, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/utils/GPSsmooth Makefile.am,

2005-07-06 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/utils/GPSsmooth In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv8203 Modified Files: Makefile.am Log Message: IRIX fixes. Thanks - works, 'course it works, it's tested on IRIX :-) Erik

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: docs/getstart/pdf FGShortRef.pdf, 1.8,

2005-06-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Martin Spott wrote: BTW, did we have a consensus on the use of EMAil addresses in The Manual ? Because the manual gets posted online, and because of the huge spam problem with any email addresses that are posted online, I'd recommend against putting email addresses into the manual.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: docs/getstart/pdf

2005-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Because the manual gets posted online, and because of the huge spam problem with any email addresses that are posted online, I'd recommend against putting email addresses into the manual. O.k., that's fine with me - I just wanted to get some feedback before removing

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/FDM groundcache.cxx, 1.7,

2005-06-02 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/FDM In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv27859/FDM Modified Files: groundcache.cxx Log Message: Mathias Fröhlich: this is basically the past patch I sent to the list and which should now really (...!?!?) fix the no

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/FDM groundcache.cxx, 1.7,

2005-06-02 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Thursday 02 June 2005 13:35: Mathias Fröhlich: this is basically the past patch I sent to the list and which should now really (...!?!?) fix the no ground below aircraft problem. Unfortunately the 'quick hack' was a better solution for my setup. Could you elaborate

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-31 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Montag 30 Mai 2005 08:50, Melchior FRANZ wrote: The FDMs are currently the only users of the groundcache, and yes, they benefit from it. A lot. Per-wheel/contact-point ground awareness hadn't been done before Mathias implemented the ground cache. And probably it would have been a big

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-31 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Montag 30 Mai 2005 14:21, Jon Stockill wrote: I'm not certain the area that the ground cache covers, but I suspect it has applications beyond just contact points. ISTR Lee was wanting to know ground elevation a distance ahead of the aircraft for the terrain following mode of the TSR2s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Berndt -- Monday 30 May 2005 00:26: Melchior FRANZ wrote: When you fly over a beacon, the ground cache has to eat all these triangles, which makes the FDM stutter or even hang. Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Dave Culp
Still, I didn't mean to blame the problems on the FDMs. I just called it FDM stuttering because this is what the user sees (and because the ground-cache code is in the FDM/ directory :-) But the FDM only stuttered, because it wasn't called in time, because of unfortunate groundcache/beacon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Dave Culp -- Monday 30 May 2005 09:27: The groundcache/beacon interaction was only effecting the Yasim FDM, correct? I've only tested it with YASim (bo105, b1900d) where I saw it before, but not after fixing it. I can't say if it happened with JSBSim, although I use both regularly. m.

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Berndt
Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the groundcache, and yes, they benefit from it. A lot. Per-wheel/contact-point ground awareness hadn't been done before Mathias implemented the ground cache. And probably it would have been a big

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Stockill
Jon Berndt wrote: Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the groundcache, and yes, they benefit from it. A lot. Per-wheel/contact-point ground awareness hadn't been done before Mathias implemented the ground cache. And probably it would have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 30 May 2005 08:50:43 +0200, Melchior wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Jon Berndt -- Monday 30 May 2005 00:26: Melchior FRANZ wrote: When you fly over a beacon, the ground cache has to eat all these triangles, which makes the FDM stutter or even hang. Is the ground

Re: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 30 May 2005 13:21, Jon Stockill wrote: Jon Berndt wrote: Is the ground cache for the benefit of the FDM? The FDMs are currently the only users of the groundcache, and yes, they benefit from it. A lot. Per-wheel/contact-point ground awareness hadn't been done before Mathias

RE: [Flightgear-devel]Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-30 Thread Jon Berndt
On Monday 30 May 2005 13:21, Jon Stockill wrote: I'm not certain the area that the ground cache covers, but I suspect it has applications beyond just contact points. ISTR Lee was wanting to know ground elevation a distance ahead of the aircraft for the terrain following mode of the TSR2s

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior Franz wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Airport In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv27845 Modified Files: beacon.xml beacon.ac Jon, are you going to update the respective entry in our database ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Jon Stockill
Martin Spott wrote: Melchior Franz wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Airport In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv27845 Modified Files: beacon.xml beacon.ac Jon, are you going to update the respective entry in our database ? It's not in there. Though there are database

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Stockill -- Sunday 29 May 2005 20:38: Martin Spott wrote: Melchior Franz wrote: Modified Files: beacon.xml beacon.ac Jon, are you going to update the respective entry in our database ? [...] there are database entries for the objects in the base package just so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Jon Stockill
Melchior FRANZ wrote: For those who care: these changes to the beacon solve one of the recently discussed problems with hanging FDM: The beacon is a quite expensive structure. It consists of about 1000 vertices and 950 triangles, all on the same spot. When you fly over a beacon, the ground

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jon Stockill -- Sunday 29 May 2005 21:02: Melchior FRANZ wrote: With these changes most of the 950 faces are invisible to the ground cache. There's only a simple invisible pyramid instead for intersection tests. Is this something that people should consider for any high poly structures

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Melchior FRANZ a écrit : In less verbosity: this technique does only make sense for objects with high face *density*, not high face *number*. The beacon has a lot of vertical, or near vertical, faces. -Fred ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml , 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic Bouvier -- Sunday 29 May 2005 21:32: Melchior FRANZ a écrit : In less verbosity: this technique does only make sense for objects with high face *density*, not high face *number*. The beacon has a lot of vertical, or near vertical, faces. I saw them when I edited it in

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Jon Berndt
Melchior FRANZ wrote: For those who care: these changes to the beacon solve one of the recently discussed problems with hanging FDM: The beacon is a quite expensive structure. It consists of about 1000 vertices and 950 triangles, all on the same spot. When you fly over a beacon, the

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Jim Wilson
From: Jon Berndt Melchior FRANZ wrote: For those who care: these changes to the beacon solve one of the recently discussed problems with hanging FDM: The beacon is a quite expensive structure. It consists of about 1000 vertices and 950 triangles, all on the same spot.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re:[Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Airport beacon.xml, 1.8,

2005-05-29 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Montag 30 Mai 2005 03:55, Jim Wilson wrote: To answer your question, the ground cache is for the benefit of the pilot. :-) I could not say that better!!! :) Greetings Mathias -- Mathias Fröhlich, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/AIModel AIAircraft.cxx,

2005-05-08 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/AIModel In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv670/src/AIModel Modified Files: AIAircraft.cxx Log Message: Solaris fixes ^^ + #elif defined(sun) || defined(sgi) + # include ieeefp.h ^^^ Hehe ;-) Thanks

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/AIModel AIAircraft.cxx,

2005-05-08 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Modified Files: AIAircraft.cxx Log Message: Solaris fixes ^^ + #elif defined(sun) || defined(sgi) + # include ieeefp.h ^^^ Hehe ;-) Thanks for applying these fixes ! So far for my hope to sneak it in ;-) Erik ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2005-05-08 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: All these patches have been committed now. I still have to look into the -pthread issue. Oh, there's no hurry ! This weekend I replaced the Sparc20 on my internet gateway with an Ultra2. While I successfully renewed the whole OS core for the 64-bit architecture (kernel,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2005-05-07 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Martin Spott wrote: I found a third location: Great, with the patches I posted these days and an additional '-lpthread' to the final linker run we're up to date with Solaris portability, All these patches have been committed now. I still have to look into the -pthread issue.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Network net_ctrls.hxx, 1.18,

2005-05-06 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/source/src/Network In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv347 Modified Files: net_ctrls.hxx net_fdm.hxx Log Message: 32 bit integers are somewhat magical and handled pretty well across platforms in terms of predictable packing and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS:

2005-05-06 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote: I found a third location: Great, with the patches I posted these days and an additional '-lpthread' to the final linker run we're up to date with Solaris portability, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread James Turner
On 6 Apr 2005, at 09:46, Erik Hofman wrote: Modified Files: fg_os_sdl.cxx Log Message: Melchior FRANZ: Make SDL window resizable; This exposes the same problem that many GLUT users have: resizing up may cause a temporary switch to software rendering if the card is low on memory. Resizing

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Wednesday 06 April 2005 11:37: Bad news - I've had this change in my tree for a few months now, and it doesn't work right on OS-X So then add a #ifdef for OS-X around the resize event, so that it is simply ignored? Did you send a bug report to the SDL people? #ifdef OSX //

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 06 April 2005 12:14: Did you send a bug report to the SDL people? Or the plib people? Anyway, we allow glut windows to be resized, and I wouldn't understand if we wouldn't allow it for SDL on all systems, just because of broken OSX or broken OSX support in plib. m.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread James Turner
On 6 Apr 2005, at 11:14, Melchior FRANZ wrote: So then add a #ifdef for OS-X around the resize event, so that it is simply ignored? Did you send a bug report to the SDL people? I think you misunderstand, it's not an SDL bug: *FlightGear is relying on assumption about how OpenGL implementations

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Wednesday 06 April 2005 12:28: Of course, we can certainly live without the feature on Mac - just be aware the fault lies with FG / PLIB for not providing an API that is somewhat important in real-world situations. I for one would love to be able to switch from full-screen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread James Turner
On 6 Apr 2005, at 12:53, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Err ... or is it SDL_SetVideoMode() in SDL's video/SDL_video.c? There's a suspicious comment in there: * WARNING, we need to make sure that the previous mode hasn't * already been freed by the video driver. What do we do in *

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Wednesday 06 April 2005 14:17: - Making PLIB / FG support vid restarts would be a very good thing to do, but would be a lot of work and invasive. I would be happy to give it a go if I thought the patches would be accepted! Sigh ... that's not so sure. - We can live with

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_os_sdl.cxx, 1.11, 1.12

2005-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 06 April 2005 13:19: So it's the glViewport() in FGRenderer::resize() that doesn't work with plib/fgfs on OSX? Err ... or is it SDL_SetVideoMode() in SDL's video/SDL_video.c? There's a suspicious comment in there: * WARNING, we need to make sure that the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/fokker100/Models

2005-03-31 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Erik, Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/fokker100/Models In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv14144 Modified Files: f70_cabin.ac fokker70.ac fokker70.xml Log Message: Some final changes, fixes and updates for some time The model looks very nice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/fokker100/Models

2005-03-31 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: The model looks very nice and the handling feels pretty easy. It's only Thanks. that I'm missing the cabin door being coupled to the parking brake as it was in your first version ;-) No, it's not ... :-) Erik ___ Flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.115, 1.116

2005-01-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote : Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Main In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv24714 Modified Files: fg_init.cxx Log Message: Geoff Air: RE: --aircraft=ufo in system.fgfsrc is ignored To change a 'feature', one that has been mentioned here many times, and again

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.115, 1.116

2005-01-29 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: I can revert the patch or someone running windows should provide me a patch instead. Erik Well, reading this piece of code, I don't see how it could work. see below : Index: fg_init.cxx === RCS file:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.115, 1.116

2005-01-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote : Frederic Bouvier wrote: I can revert the patch or someone running windows should provide me a patch instead. Or do both, because the current patch seems useless. Is it windows specific ? -Fred ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.115, 1.116

2005-01-29 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Frederic Bouvier a écrit : Erik Hofman wrote : Frederic Bouvier wrote: I can revert the patch or someone running windows should provide me a patch instead. Or do both, because the current patch seems useless. Is it windows specific ? This one seems better ( move the added block 3 lines upward )

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.115, 1.116

2005-01-29 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Frederic Bouvier a écrit : Erik Hofman wrote : Frederic Bouvier wrote: I can revert the patch or someone running windows should provide me a patch instead. Or do both, because the current patch seems useless. Is it windows specific ? This one seems better ( move the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Huds/Default default.xml, 1.4, 1.5

2005-01-16 Thread Martin Spott
Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Huds/Default In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv19455/Huds/Default Modified Files: default.xml Log Message: Disable the runway outline in the hud for now until a few more issues get resolved. (It's a nifty feature though.) What do you think

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, 1.1,

2005-01-04 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Weather In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv5714 Modified Files: rain.ac rain.xml Log Message: Model changes and add some select's. Great idea, especially because there's no 'cigar' around the cockpit anymore ;-)

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Weather In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28318/Models/Weather Added Files: rain.ac rain.rgb rain.xml Log Message: Add a basic model for rain. Test w. the pc-7 This looks quite interesting but I realize that this might

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Dave Martin
On Monday 03 Jan 2005 16:11, Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Weather In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28318/Models/Weather Added Files: rain.ac rain.rgb rain.xml Log Message: Add a basic model for rain. Test w. the pc-7 This

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Models/Weather In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28318/Models/Weather Added Files: rain.ac rain.rgb rain.xml Log Message: Add a basic model for rain. Test w. the pc-7 This looks quite interesting but I realize that this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Dave Martin
On Monday 03 Jan 2005 17:32, Erik Hofman wrote: Well, this will only cover a part of the rain problem. I had an idea a while back that being able to change the specular material setting for runways / taxiways 'on the fly' could produce the sort of wet 'sheen' you get on asphalt when it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Models/Weather rain.ac, NONE,

2005-01-03 Thread Erik Hofman
Dave Martin wrote: On Monday 03 Jan 2005 17:32, Erik Hofman wrote: Well, this will only cover a part of the rain problem. I had an idea a while back that being able to change the specular material setting for runways / taxiways 'on the fly' could produce the sort of wet 'sheen' you get on

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Aircraft/737/Instruments pfd2.xml,

2004-12-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Martin Spott -- Monday 13 December 2004 22:14: I can confirm that the VSPEED display in the 737 PFD actually always shows the number 0 but I'd say this is still better than a fps display - at least for a real pilot. If the display sticks to 0 the pilot will realize very soon that it is

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