Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft with old JSBSim specs in base package

2006-04-06 Thread Erik Hofman
Josh Babcock wrote: Well, the B-29 doesn't really have any correct JSBSim config at all, so you might as well just ignore that entry. I don't think I will ever get the polar data for the Boeing wing, so it will probably not happen in the future either. Are you sure:

[Flightgear-devel] Re: simgear for Mac OS X Tiger

2006-04-06 Thread Erik Hofman
Hi Jeehyeon, I have the feeling you think I'm one of the MacOS developers, but unfortunately I'm not. You would be best off directing the question to the developers mailinglist. Erik Jeehyeon Eom wrote: Hi, first of all, I am enthusiastic fan of FlightGear, and I appreciate for your

RE: [Flightgear-devel] compile with MSVC 2005 (the same as msvc 8?)

2006-04-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
Olaf Flebbe Please use the OpenAL Distribution from creative, not the cygwin one. Since it is necessary to do some changes I have a a zip for you: http://www.oflebbe.de/oflebbe/FlightGear/AL.zip For other pitfalls http://www.oflebbe.de/oflebbe/FlightGear/index.html Please either use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: simgear for Mac OS X Tiger

2006-04-06 Thread James Turner
I'm trying to compile FlightGear 0.9.10-pre3 on my PowerBook, but the installation of simgear fails while "make" with following error messages: if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../simgear -I../..  -I/FlightGear/include  -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT -MT visual_enviro.o -MD -MP -MF

[Flightgear-devel] Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, this is now going to be the third release in a row that relies on PLIB CVS, I find this is a bit unsatisfactory. On the other side people are waiting endlessly to get patches incorporated into PLIB. I herewith propose to put a copy of PLIB into the SimGear tree after the release is out, to

RE: [Flightgear-devel] compile with MSVC 2005 (the same as msvc 8?)

2006-04-06 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Unfortunately, I discovered that submodels no longer work. I downloaded Fred's binary of -0.9.10-pre3 this morning, and they no longer work there either. So far as I can see, they are still working under Cygwin as of last night. Do you have a test case ? What should I do to exhibit the

[Flightgear-devel] Re: compile with MSVC 2005 (the same as msvc 8?)

2006-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Frederic Bouvier -- Thursday 06 April 2006 12:09: Unfortunately, I discovered that submodels no longer work. Do you have a test case ? What should I do to exhibit the problem ? The most important submodels are without any doubt the bo105's Gatling style guns M134. :-] $ fgfs

RE: [Flightgear-devel] compile with MSVC 2005 (the same as msvc 8?)

2006-04-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
Fred Unfortunately, I discovered that submodels no longer work. I downloaded Fred's binary of -0.9.10-pre3 this morning, and they no longer work there either. So far as I can see, they are still working under Cygwin as of last night. Do you have a test case ? What should I do to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread Chris Metzler
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 09:21:33 + (UTC) Martin Spott wrote: Hello, this is now going to be the third release in a row that relies on PLIB CVS, I find this is a bit unsatisfactory. On the other side people are waiting endlessly to get patches incorporated into PLIB. I herewith propose to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Thursday 06 April 2006 10:21, Martin Spott wrote: this is now going to be the third release in a row that relies on PLIB CVS, I find this is a bit unsatisfactory. I've been building CVS with plib-1.8.4 (the last release) for ages with no particular problems, so I'm not sure it's true to say

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
AJ MacLeod On Thursday 06 April 2006 10:21, Martin Spott wrote: this is now going to be the third release in a row that relies on PLIB CVS, I find this is a bit unsatisfactory. I've been building CVS with plib-1.8.4 (the last release) for ages with no particular problems, so I'm not sure

[Flightgear-devel] v0.9.10 source code

2006-04-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
As some of you have already noticed, the source/data tarballs for FlightGear-v0.9.10 are now available. Fred has already made a windows binary available, so I'm going to try to get the web site updated and push out an official announcement today. Curt. -- Curtis Olson

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Thursday 06 April 2006 15:08: Huh!?! I've been building with plib-v1.8.4 happily without any problems. Officially we depend on v1.8.4. If there's something in plib-cvs that we could benefit from, then we should encourage those guys to do another release. I would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft downloads problem .....

2006-04-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
syd sandy wrote: Hi all , just discovered a problem with the aircraft downloads from the website while trying to solve a problem for Steve , who downloaded my Citation Bravo and reported errors. The Bravo , and several others of mine rely on instruments in the Instrument-3d folder , but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote: I would *really* like to switch to a new plib version (and make this a requirement), because ... - several pu.h widgets are depreciated, and are now in puAux, where they are actually maintained. (It's quite embarrassing if one has to submit bugfixes for obsolete

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Huh!?! I've been building with plib-v1.8.4 happily without any problems. Officially we depend on v1.8.4. If there's something in plib-cvs that we could benefit from, then we should encourage those guys to do another release. Several patches and improvements went

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread Stefan Seifert
Melchior FRANZ wrote: I don't think we gain much from forking plib. *If* we have people interested in working on plib, those can as well ask for plib write access. (The texture compression was IMHO not advertized well, so I'm not really surprised that it was ignored.) Forgive me my

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis L. Olson -- Thursday 06 April 2006 16:11: In the past, when we've lobbied the plib people for a new release, they've been very forth coming. Has anyone asked them to consider rolling out a new release? Yes, Martin has. Shortly before the 0.9.9 release, and Steve's response was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Thursday 06 April 2006 15:32, Stefan Seifert wrote: Forgive me my ignorance, I have only tested the first posted version of the patch. Is compression with this patch optional? Using the patch was no problem with my ATI card (although it didn't help much), but results were just ugly after I

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Stefan Seifert -- Thursday 06 April 2006 16:32: Melchior FRANZ wrote: The texture compression was IMHO not advertized well, so I'm not really surprised that it was ignored.) Forgive me my ignorance, I have only tested the first posted version of the patch. Is compression with this

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Update: Experimental lighter-than-air support for JSBSim and FlightGear

2006-04-06 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Lee Elliott wrote: On Wednesday 05 April 2006 10:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Are there anyone else interested in lighter than air flight for FlightGear/JSBSim? Comments and suggestions are welcome! There is a balloon fdm in FlightGear but the last time I

[Flightgear-devel] 737-300 re-entry

2006-04-06 Thread Dave Culp
Howdy everyone, As far as the super 737 goes, it indeed looks like the FDM is getting bad info from FG, but I don't know details as I haven't looked into it.  As I wrote to Jon, I suspect sea-level atmosphere numbers are being sent. How high can a 737-300 go?  Nobody knows.  Even though the

[Flightgear-devel] air-ground.nas

2006-04-06 Thread Dave Culp
The air-ground.nas system assumes that the airplane starts on the ground.  I used this assumption to simplify things because air-ground.nas was my first attempt at Nasal system programming.  In order to get the spoilers working right for an in-flight start you might need to disable

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Proposal for 1.0

2006-04-06 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Thursday 06 April 2006 15:07, Vivian Meazza wrote: I think that this provides a sensible migration route to OSG, if that is the way we are going, otherwise it seems a good proposal in its own right. Apart True, I have most of that parts of ssg that are required by flightgear simgear

[Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear/SimGear dsp/dsw files

2006-04-06 Thread Geoff Air
Hi, I too had some delays - mainly due to house guests cutting down my computer time ;=)) Thanks for the addition of config.h-msvc8 to CVS. I wonder why it was not called either just config.h-msvc, since it WORKS with ALL version of MSVC, or at least config.h-msvc6, as it WAS called before ...

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft with old JSBSim specs in base package

2006-04-06 Thread Julien Pierru
I'll look into it, maybe i can make those plots for you using a vortex panel method on the profile of the airfoil. I'll keep you posted. Julien

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: AP messed up? agl-hold vs. terrain-follow

2006-04-06 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 06 April 2006 10:50, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 05 April 2006 07:51: * Lee Elliott -- Tuesday 04 April 2006 22:49: There also seem to be some quirks in the way that the A/P gui handles things - if you already have an A/P mode engaged but didn't set

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] Stalls

2006-04-06 Thread Josh Babcock
Andy Ross wrote: [redirecting to flightgear-devel] If audio is required, then this ought to be tied to turbulence also, or maybe to instantaneous acceleration changes (a delta of more than YYY m/s^2 over the last 0.XX seconds triggers the start of a whump sound). I have been thinking about