Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Durk Talsma
On Saturday 24 November 2007 21:32, Melchior FRANZ wrote: where name seems to be totally free and without rules. Some examples are Custom Startup Location, Startup, Anchor, Ramp, Gate A 1, East Mil cargo Ramp 65, 249.660 (huh?), Plataforma 1 (oh, plataforma ...), etc. There should be a type

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-11-25 Thread Durk Talsma
On Saturday 24 November 2007 18:39, Hans Fugal wrote: OS X Leopard (10.5) on a Macbook, gcc 4.0.1, a patched plib 1.8.4. Simgear 0.3.11-pre2 needs the following patch in order to build: Okay Done. Thanks. - This SF.net

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Sunday 25 November 2007: On Saturday 24 November 2007 21:32, Melchior FRANZ wrote: [alternative startup location entries in apt.dat] All very good reasons why I opted not to use this information directly, but can it into the AI related parking.xml file. And how do those help

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP-Chat-Bug

2007-11-25 Thread SydSandy
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:45:30 +0100 Maik Justus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, a few month ago there was a discussion about a bug in the MP-chat (don't remember if it was on the list or on irc): Sometimes one get the last message(s) of one ore more other MP-pilots repeated and repeated

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP-Chat-Bug

2007-11-25 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I have seen this in both plib and osg branch (I use both). Regards, AnMaster Maik Justus wrote: Hi, a few month ago there was a discussion about a bug in the MP-chat (don't remember if it was on the list or on irc): Sometimes one get the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Durk Talsma
On Sunday 25 November 2007 09:43, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Durk Talsma -- Sunday 25 November 2007: On Saturday 24 November 2007 21:32, Melchior FRANZ wrote: [alternative startup location entries in apt.dat] All very good reasons why I opted not to use this information directly, but can it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Sunday 25 November 2007: To summarize, the C++ infrastructure is there to support this for user aircraft. All that's needed is to add a command line option, like: --parking-id= --get-available-parking, and probably one c function to interpret the lat /lon/heading values and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 25 November 2007: But I don't like that the very much un-dynamic parking information isn't in the Airports/ dir, where it belongs, and that this somehow drags AI/Traffic into the game. What about this: we create in $FG_ROOT/Airports/ a subdir with airport files which

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Durk Talsma
On Sunday 25 November 2007 11:13, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 25 November 2007: But I don't like that the very much un-dynamic parking information isn't in the Airports/ dir, where it belongs, and that this somehow drags AI/Traffic into the game. What about this: we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Durk Talsma -- Sunday 25 November 2007: But while we're at it, wouldn't it be better to update and extend the parking.xml files into PropertyList XML, and move those to $FG_ROOT/Airports/Data, like you suggested? And that sounds good to me! :-) Is there any information in the current

[Flightgear-devel] FGCOM gets a discussion page on the wiki

2007-11-25 Thread Willie Fleming
http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Talk:FGCOM Ive kicked this off with a request for _simplex_ comms and a wee moan about voice quality. I used squawkBox once a couple of years back - I cant honestly remeber how the voice quality sounded. Can anyoine enlighten me? How

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP-Chat-Bug

2007-11-25 Thread LeeE
On Sunday 25 November 2007 08:44, SydSandy wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:45:30 +0100 Maik Justus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, a few month ago there was a discussion about a bug in the MP-chat (don't remember if it was on the list or on irc): Sometimes one get the last message(s) of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 25 November 2007: So, a file $FG_ROOT/Airports/Data/K/KSFO.xml would contain [...] I think this should be for KSFO: $FG_ROOT/Airports/Data/K/KS/KSFO.xml The Data/ dir name is a bit ugly, as all in $FG_ROOT is data, after all. I wouldn't mind using something else.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP-Chat-Bug

2007-11-25 Thread Stuart Buchanan
LeeE wrote: On Sunday 25 November 2007 08:44, SydSandy wrote: On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:45:30 +0100 Maik Justus wrote: Hi, a few month ago there was a discussion about a bug in the MP-chat (don't remember if it was on the list or on irc): Sometimes one get the last

Re: [Flightgear-devel] What keys are reserved for local usage? (was: Improved chat interface patch)

2007-11-25 Thread Stuart Buchanan
AnMaster wrote: Stuart Buchanan wrote: Given this, I think the - key is a sensible choice for the phrase tree, and _ a good choice for free-form chat. On my UK keyboard they are the same key. So if you use - and _ are there any keys that are reserved for users? I used - for some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP-Chat-Bug

2007-11-25 Thread alexis bory
Stuart Buchanan a écrit : My suspicion is that there are multiple MP aircraft with the same callsign in the session. My there should be multiple mpdummy aircraft I am not sure, but it is obviously a situation that is going to become more common as FG MP becomes more popular, so the chat

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 25 November 2007: $FG_ROOT/Airports/Data/K/KS/KSFO.xml The script is done, and generates files like the attached one for LEAB. The source is $FG_ROOT/Airports/apt.dat.gz, used are entries 1, 14, 15, 5? as described in http://www.x-plane.org/home/robinp/Apt810.htm The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 25 November 2007: The script is done, and generates files [...] ... which I haven't tested with xmllint. ichannel should, of course, be /channel. m. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Durk Talsma
On Sunday 25 November 2007 17:01, Melchior FRANZ wrote: - is the parking information enough for AI/Traffic. It's all there is in apt.dat.gz, but the parking.xml files have more. Is the extra information from different sources, or just made up? For AI/Traffic, we'd need some additional

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-11-25 Thread Hans Fugal
Sorry if I mislead. To my knowledge this square sun has been the case for a long time. The patch I was thinking of comes from the macflightgear 0.9.10 sources. I have applied it (with a little fuzz) to pre2 and it does solve the problem. Here it is: --- org/FlightGear-0.9.10/src/Main/main.cxx

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Melchior FRANZ wrote: [...] The overall disk space consumption is 34 MB (tar.gz: 633 kB). That is rather large, a more compact way than loads and loads of files maybe? After all even if file is small it will take at least one block in the file

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP-Chat-Bug

2007-11-25 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Stuart Buchanan wrote: I haven't seen this bug (yet), so the following is to some extent guesswork based on the information above. The MP chat system keeps a hash of all the incoming messages keyed against the callsign of the user. This is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP-Chat-Bug

2007-11-25 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 alexis bory wrote: I've seen a couple of time an endless repetition of two lines of messages issued (at least at the origin) by a single MP player, usually repetitions are rather limited. Also, I have been reported to trigger such endless

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup menu option

2007-11-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* AnMaster -- Sunday 25 November 2007: Melchior FRANZ wrote: [...] The overall disk space consumption is 34 MB (tar.gz: 633 kB). That is rather large, We have aircraft in CVS which use well over 20 MB, so I find the 34 MB not really shocking. The problem is that this will grow. I did

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP-Chat-Bug

2007-11-25 Thread Stuart Buchanan
AnMaster wrote: I have seen this in cases without duplicate callsigns online. Another related bug: sometimes when anyone joins it will show the hello message for the wrong user, i.e. mpdummy for everyone. This bug is more unusual however. That could be the AI tree getting slightly out of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP-Chat-Bug

2007-11-25 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Stuart, Stuart Buchanan schrieb am 25.11.2007 16:09: I haven't seen this bug (yet), so the following is to some extent guesswork based on the information above. The MP chat system keeps a hash of all the incoming messages keyed against the callsign of the user. This is the only way I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP-Chat-Bug

2007-11-25 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Stuart, Stuart Buchanan schrieb am 25.11.2007 20:36: One things that may explain the repeating messages without duplicated callsigns was that the code was doing string comparisons with ==. I've changed this to using cmp() instead in the latest version of the code, available here:

[Flightgear-devel] global still showing up on MP

2007-11-25 Thread SydSandy
Hi all , still seeing the global error message pop up on MP , so I did a check and found these still using global. I'd be happy to fix them , but they aren't mine :) Instruments-3d/Century-III/AltimaticIIIc.xml Instruments-3d/Century-III/CenturyIII.xml SenecaII/Models/EGTL.xml

Re: [Flightgear-devel] MP-Chat-Bug

2007-11-25 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Maik wrote: Hi Stuart, Stuart Buchanan schrieb am 25.11.2007 20:36: One things that may explain the repeating messages without duplicated callsigns was that the code was doing string comparisons with ==. I've changed this to using cmp() instead in the latest version of the code,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] global still showing up on MP

2007-11-25 Thread dave perry
SydSandy wrote: Hi all , still seeing the global error message pop up on MP , so I did a check and found these still using global. I'd be happy to fix them , but they aren't mine :) Instruments-3d/Century-III/AltimaticIIIc.xml Instruments-3d/Century-III/CenturyIII.xml I just emoved the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] global still showing up on MP

2007-11-25 Thread SydSandy
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:14:33 -0700 dave perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SydSandy wrote: Hi all , still seeing the global error message pop up on MP , so I did a check and found these still using global. I'd be happy to fix them , but they aren't mine :)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-11-25 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Hans, Why don't you try this patch for the sun problem. This is for 0.9.10 but should work on 0.9.11-pre2. The cause of this problem is the order of adding texture path. Thus I changed its order so the sun gets rendered properly. Durk, (and more developers), could you test this patch so it can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-11-25 Thread Hans Fugal
Hi Tat, thanks. That's the same patch that I mentioned elsewhere in this thread. I can test on linux tomorrow but not windows. As for the weather, I haven't tested it explicitly in linux the last day or so, but IIRC it is not OS X specific. On Nov 25, 2007 7:09 PM, Tatsuhiro Nishioka [EMAIL