Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-07 Thread Keiron Liddle
So what is your point? - that we need a whole lot more people working on this. We already know, either people will volunteer or they won't. - that you don't know how to help. You said you can see problems. Tell us you are going to fix those problems. Then do it. - that we need: coders,

RE: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-07 Thread Matthew L. Avizinis
-Original Message- From: Keiron Liddle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project So what is your point? - that we need a whole lot more people working on this. We already know

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-07 Thread Peter B. West
Matthew L. Avizinis wrote: Well, now that I consider it more, I have to say that I guess I am just used to a corporate way of developing software that has a definite administrative structure and plan of action with people assigned specific tasks. Since I've never worked on an Open Source

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-06 Thread Ralph LaChance
At 07:31 AM 2/6/02 +0100, you wrote: I think that most people need some encouragement to take the plunge in murky waters and since so many seem to feel generous this week, allow me to toss my hat into the ring - we would be pleased to help out with the awt renderer and the print renderer --

RE: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-06 Thread Matthew L. Avizinis
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project As far as using FOP it is still in the early development stages. So you can evaluate it and use it if it is good enough for your needs. Due to the missing features and bugs etc. it is harder to evaluate and may

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-06 Thread Peter B. West
Matthew, Yes, we're all entitled to a little ranting now and then. So I'll rant a little, and end with a few practical suggestions. As to who's in charge: Arved is the man, but Arved has recently started a new job, so you can imagine what his current situation is. Nonetheless, he is

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thursday 07 February 2002 03:57, Arved Sandstrom wrote: . . . If you do some code and want to see it added to the main or maintenance branches, then the onus is on one or more committers to explain why it's a bad idea, but there must be a good reason. . . . To make sure there is no

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-06 Thread Jeremias Maerki
To make sure there is no confusion about this, could someone clarify (once more I guess) what exactly the main and maintenance branches are, and how to get the source code for both of them? You get the main branch by getting the sources from CVS without a tag. The maintenance branch is

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-05 Thread Keiron Liddle
As far as using FOP it is still in the early development stages. So you can evaluate it and use it if it is good enough for your needs. Due to the missing features and bugs etc. it is harder to evaluate and may be a problem if you want to extend how you use it. In terms of the current

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-05 Thread Cyril Rognon
I think you are right Keiron, I would like to contribute to this software, I would of course like to begin with the code that is an issue for me but I am ready to hear where to look and what to do either in the maintenance branch or in the redesign one. (For the story, my fop issues are with

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-05 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron, Welcome back. Been on holidays? Looking at the number of people who have expressed an interest in being of some help, I thought it might be of some use for you or Karen, or both, to run a school. I appreciate that many of the thorny problems with fop require the redesign, but if

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-02-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tuesday 05 February 2002 23:25, Peter B. West wrote: . . . I think that most people need some encouragement to take the plunge in murky waters. I agree, make sense with the various offers for help that came up in the last few weeks. - Bertrand

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-01-26 Thread alex
Matt Savino wrote:: Actually I am willing to volunteer a few hours a week towards anything the group needs done. I know it's not much, but if there's some admin or minor programming task that no one wants to do, etc. I think that one of the best ways anyone can contribute with just a few hours

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-01-25 Thread alex
Pete Tribulski wrote: One of our primary tenets is no beta software should be included in production applications. This is a problem statement for any open source software. Although a particular version may be called a release in Open Source circles this usually does mean that it is still

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-01-25 Thread Matt Savino
Thanks Alex, point taken. I would love nothing more than to help with the redesign for the challenge and experience. I think FOP is a great project that the world needs yesterday. Unfortunately my company already has too much work for me and my clone, and there's no money in the budget for a

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-01-25 Thread Matt Savino
Actually I am willing to volunteer a few hours a week towards anything the group needs done. I know it's not much, but if there's some admin or minor programming task that no one wants to do, etc. Matt Savino wrote: Thanks Alex, point taken. I would love nothing more than to help with the

Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-01-24 Thread ptribulski
First off, thank you for what looks like a fantastic effort. I admire (and am envious of) each of you who have found the time to contribute to such a valuable project. I am involved with the approval process for bringing new technology into our company. We have several development groups who

RE: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-01-24 Thread Arved Sandstrom
PROTECTED]] Sent: January 24, 2002 7:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Seeking Comments on Status of Project First off, thank you for what looks like a fantastic effort. I admire (and am envious of) each of you who have found the time to contribute to such a valuable project. I am involved

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

2002-01-24 Thread Matt Savino
House XSL Formatter. I can't comment on the price. Expect other comments. :-) Regards, Arved Sandstrom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 24, 2002 7:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Seeking Comments on Status of Project

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project (jfor integration)

2002-01-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
(cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - fyi) On Friday 25 January 2002 00:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . I see some notes about the inclusion of jfor (RTF output) into the FOP project. I think that would be really cool, and speaks very well of the effort put in thus far. Anyone care to comment on

Re: Seeking Comments on Status of Project (testing)

2002-01-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Friday 25 January 2002 00:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . I am involved with the approval process for bringing new technology into our company. We have several development groups who have seen the FOP engine and would like to include it their applications. . . . One of our primary