RE: [t13] Third Notice, T13.org is moving

2006-12-05 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. It is not up yet. I have asked the people doing it for status and have not yet received a reply. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-mail:

[t13] Meeting announcement: TCG Working Group: ATA/SCSI Interactions

2006-11-27 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. TCG (Storage Working Group) is starting to hold meetings to discuss interactions between TCG features and interface (e.g. ATA and SCSI) commands and features. The first two are: December1, 2006 December 15, 2006 If you already are a

[t13] New docs posted

2006-10-26 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The T13 October 2006 plenary #61 is over. Here are some docs presented today for posting. http://t13.org/docs2006/e06122r9-ATA8-ACS_Open_Issues_List.pdf http://t13.org/docs2006/e06126r1c_ATA8-ACS_NOP_clarifications%20with%20meeting%20comments.pdf

[t13] Updated docs posted

2006-10-25 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I have posted these docs that were updated during today's plenary session: http://t13.org/docs2006/e05179r8-ACS-SecurityClarifications.pdf http://t13.org/docs2006/e06102r2-Device_statistics.pdf

[t13] More docs posted (these arrive before the deadline)

2006-10-10 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I just posted these additional docs that arrived before yesterday's deadline. Please review these before the October plenary. http://t13.org/docs2006/eang61r2-Agenda_61.pdf http://t13.org/docs2006/e03124r9-HPA_State_Diagram_and_Description.doc

[t13] Docs just posted (before the 2-week deadline)

2006-10-09 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The following docs have just been posted to the T13 website for discussion at the October plenary in Sunnyvale: http://t13.org/docs2006/e05179r7-ACS-SecurityClarifications.doc http://t13.org/docs2006/e06019r0-Request_to_CFA_for_Resource_Release.pdf

[t13] 2-week document deadline for October plenary is end of day Monday Oct. 9

2006-10-05 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Just a friendly reminder that the 2-week document deadline for the October plenary is end of day Monday Oct. 9 Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [t13] WEB/reflector requirements discussion

2006-09-29 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Excellent !!! Please make sure you send the meeting notice to me ahead of time, and I will also post it to the website under 'Meetings'. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC

[t13] August meeting minutes posted and other website changes

2006-09-12 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Hey, all of you out there in T13-Land - - - I just posted the minutes from the August 2006 plenary. http://t13.org/docs/docs2006/e06-157r0_August_Minutes.pdf Also, I've done some other updates - PLEASE TELL ME IF THINGS GOT BROKEN - -

Re: [t13] ATA Security

2006-08-20 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. hatfield Please see my responses below. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-mail: 389 Disc Drive; Longmont, CO 80503 USA voice:

[t13] Minutes of Free Fall ad hoc meeting have been posted

2006-08-18 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The minutes of Free Fall ad hoc meeting have been posted Please let me know if I did not record things correctly. http://t13.org/docs2006/e06155r0-FreeFall_AdHoc_Minutes_081706.pdf Thank You !!!

[t13] webex info for free fall meeting (now)

2006-08-17 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. WEBEX MEETING NUMBER: 828 169 958 PASSWORD: t13t13 Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-mail: 389 Disc Drive; Longmont, CO 80503 USA

[t13] 2 week document deadline is today

2006-08-07 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Just a friendly reminder. The 2 week deadline for docs is today. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-mail: 389 Disc Drive; Longmont, CO

[t13] New proposal posted: Additional SCT temperature statistics

2006-08-03 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Please see this new proposal posted to the T13 website. This is for discussion at the August T13 meeting in Redmond, WA. Additional SCT temperature statistics http://t13.org/docs2006/e06152r0-Additional_SCT_Temperature_Statistics.pdf Thank You !!!

Re: [t13] Set NV Cache Power Mode command

2006-07-28 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. From one of our engineers: From my dealing with MS, they intend Minimum High-Power Time to be the minimum time the drive should stay spinning if it was forced to spinup to service a read or write while in NVC low power mode. My understanding is

Re: [t13] Hybrid disk - what a bad idea

2006-07-28 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. There are two very good reasons for putting the NV cache on the disk, itself: - power consumption - separation of data -- Power consumption by rotating media is greater than that of the computer and it makes sense to make it

Re: [t13] Free Fall Feature Set Conference Call - WebEx info added

2006-07-27 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The meeting notice for Samsung's Free Fall Features discussion has been posted. It also includes the WebEx information. http://t13.org/docs2006/e06151r0-Free_Fall_Feature_meeting_notice.txt Thank You !!!

Re: [t13] Flush behavior on a Hybrid disk

2006-07-27 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. 'flush cache' just needs to make sure that data has been flushed from any volatile location to non-volatile. If the drive is not spinning, 'flush cache' should not be required to copy the data from non-volatile cache to rotating media. That would negate

RE: [t13] ATA8-ACSr3e

2006-07-19 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I fixed the link 15 minutes ago. you just missed it. please try again. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-mail: 389 Disc Drive;

[t13] Fw: INCITS rules have changed

2006-07-18 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. - Forwarded by James C Hatfield/Seagate on 07/18/2006 03:37 PM - John Lohmeyer [EMAIL

Re: [t13] Question on IDLE UNLOAD

2006-07-06 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. IDLE IMMEDIATE UNLOAD should not require media spinup. Curtis: Is there some specific wording change you want to suggest ? Do you want a document number ? or just put it in the 'open issues' list ? Thank You !!!

Re: [t13] Write uncorrectable - flagged mode (FR=Axh)

2006-06-09 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. hatfield See my responses below Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-mail: 389 Disc Drive; Longmont, CO 80503 USA voice:

[t13] Reminder: ATA security clarifications webex TODAY

2006-06-07 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Starting time: 2:00 pm, Mountain Daylight Time (GMT -06:00, Denver) Duration: 1 hour Meeting number: 821 407 228 Meeting password: t13security Teleconference: Toll free 1-888-422-7124 Participant code 158504 Host: Jim Hatfield Host's email

[t13] Fw: 2-week deadline today at 5pm (MDT)

2006-06-05 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. - Forwarded by James C Hatfield/Seagate on 06/05/2006 10:54 AM - James C Hatfield

[t13] resend: 2-week deadline today at 5pm (MDT) - resend(server was down)

2006-06-05 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. This is just a friendly reminder that (today) Monday June 5 is the 2 week deadline for posting proposals before the June meeting (that a vote is desired for). Any docs that I receive before 5:00pm (MDT) will be posted that day. Proposals received

[t13] 2-week deadline coming

2006-06-02 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. This is just a friendly reminder that Monday June 5 is the 2 week deadline for posting proposals before the June meeting (that a vote is desired for). Any docs that I receive before 5:00pm (MDT) that day will be posted that day. Proposals received

Re: [t13] Word 125 ATAPI byte count=0 behavior

2006-06-01 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The answer to your question is: The mechanism to change this value is device vendor-specific. The vendor may fix it for all devices, or may have some special configuration utility or a vendor-specific command or whatever it chooses.

Re: [t13] June Meeting Announcement

2006-05-22 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The announcement has been posted to the website also. http://t13.org/docs2006/epmt59r0_June_2006_meeting_announcement.txt Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail:

Re: [t13] Should or Shall word82[2] and word85[2] have identical values in IDENTIFY DEVICE response for ATA/ATAPI-6?

2006-05-16 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I notice that you mention the Removeable Media feature set. You may have missed the notice in the minutes of the April 2006 plenary meeting that this feature set was 'obsoleted' for ATA8-ACS. This means that support for the feature set will be frozen as

[t13] The Minutes of April 2006 meeting have been posted

2006-04-26 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The Minutes of April 2006 meeting have been posted http://t13.org/docs2006/e06132r0_April_Minutes.pdf Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[t13] Updated agenda has been posted

2006-04-17 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Dan Colegrove sent me an update to the agenda for this week's meeting. It has been posted to the website: http://t13.org/docs2006/eang58r2-Agenda_58.pdf Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield

[t13] TCG Liaison report posted

2006-04-07 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Please see the TCG Liaison report that I just posted to the website: http://t13.org/docs2006/e06129r0-TCG_Liaison_Report_to_T13.pdf Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC

RE: [t13] ATA8-ACS NOP proposals

2006-04-06 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Last time I checked, the ATA standard did not mention supporting a host that only performs 16-bit register accesses. There IS mention of support for CFA where the DATA register is only 8-bits but no mention of a 16-bit-only host interface. Thank

RE: [t13] ATA8-ACS NOP proposals

2006-04-06 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Shouldn't a '16-bit-only' host interface be documented somewhere if support is to be provided ? Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-mail:

[t13] New docs posted

2006-03-31 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. These docs have just been posted to the T13 website. Please review these and be prepared to discuss them at the April 18 meeting. http://t13.org/docs2006/e05179r3-ACS-SecurityClarifications.pdf

[t13] d97142r1.pdf is corrupted (and now repaired)

2006-03-31 Thread James . C . Hatfield
. d97142r1-regen.pdf -- Rob Elliott, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hewlett-Packard Industry Standard Server Storage Advanced Technology [attachment d97142r1-regen.pdf deleted by James C Hatfield/Seagate]

[t13] Results of march 30 webex on ATA security clarifications

2006-03-30 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. On March 30, 2006 a webex teleconf was held to discuss http://t13.org/docs2006/e05179r2-ACS-SecurityClarifications.pdf The following people attended - Jim Hatfield (host) Seagate - Peter Ddinh Marvell A revised document (rev 3) will be

[t13] Reminder: ATA Security Clarifications meeting tomorrow

2006-03-27 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Reminder: ATA Security Clarifications meeting tomorrow Here is a copy of the meeting announcement. http://t13.org/docs2006/e06120r0-AdHocMeeting_Security_Clarifications_part_2.txt We will resume reviewing e05179r2 , starting at section 1.2

[t13] Report about today's discussion about ATA Security Clarifications

2006-03-14 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Today we held a web conference to discuss http://t13.org/docs2006/e05179r1-ACS-SecurityClarifications.pdf These people attended Dan Colegrove HGST Pete Dinh Marvell Thong PhamMarvell Nathan ObrMicrosoft Joseph Chen

[t13] T13 Ad Hoc Meeting announcement: T13 ATA Security Clarifications

2006-03-06 Thread James . C . Hatfield
You are invited to join a meeting on the Web, using WebEx. Topic: T13 ATA Security Clarifications Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 Time: 2:00 pm, Mountain Standard Time (GMT -07:00, Denver) Duration: 4 hours WebEx meeting number: 821 153 394 WebEx Meeting password: ata4me Teleconference: Toll

[t13] new doc posted

2006-02-23 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Please see the T13 website for a new doc that I posted this morning. http://t13.org/docs2006/e06114r0-ACS-Free_Fall_FeatureSet.pdf Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC

[t13] letter ballot results have been posted

2006-02-21 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The results of the 2 letter ballots have been posted. http://t13.org/docs2006/e06008r0-ATA-7-Amendment-1_Vote_Summary.pdf http://t13.org/docs2006/e06009r0-WWN_Proposal_Vote_Summary.pdf Thank You !!!

Re: [t13] Recall: T13 related Patents Disclosure by M-Systems

2006-02-15 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I did not receive this document from you. T13 related Patents Disclosure by M-Systems What would you like me to do with it if it shows up later ? Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield

[t13] fwd: IEEE P1667 Liaison Report

2006-02-15 Thread James . C . Hatfield
!!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-mail: 389 Disc Drive; Longmont, CO 80503 USA voice: 720-684-2120 fax: 720-684-2711 == - Forwarded by James C Hatfield

[t13] Warning: 2 week deadline before Feb meeting

2006-02-01 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. This is a friendly reminder that the 2 week rule time limit is coming up soon: end of day Monday Feb. 6 Any docs received by me as of 4 PM (Mountain Time) that day will be posted that day. Thank You !!!

[t13] New doc posted

2006-02-01 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. To all Earthlings in Spaceship T13: Greetings!!! I just posted a new proposal to the T13 website to address the concerns expressed at the last few meetings about SMART attributes. http://t13.org/docs2006/e06102r0-Device_statistics.pdf Thank You !!!

[t13] New doc posted: e06101r0 - TCG Use Case FAQ

2006-01-13 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Please see this new doc posted to the T13 website (2006 docs) e06101r0 - TCG Use Case FAQ http://t13.org/docs2006/e06101r0_TCG_Storage_Use_Case_FAQ_v1.pdf = Also,

[t13] Website update

2006-01-10 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. T13's Chair (Dan Colegrove) has passed management of the website to me (Jim Hatfield, Vice Chair). Please send any files to be posted to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have update the website. Please hit your 'Reload' or 'Refresh' button. Changes:

[t13] re: e05154r2 - streaming cleanup

2005-12-01 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. While reviewing this, I noticed that the summary is missing some items * the HSE bit has been made obsolete In addition, if the streaming performance log is obsoleted, we also have to obsolete the 'delayed lba log', because it's only reference is from

RE: [t13] ata8-acs: Word orderining within a multi-word field

2005-12-01 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. OOPS - - section 7.1.5 appears to answer the question unambiguously -- my bad -- sorry for the waste of bandwidth Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL

RE: [t13] Temperature sensors

2005-10-18 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. and more to your specific point, in the T13 meeting tomorrow (oct 19) we will be discussing my proposal to begin the process of documenting and having T13 take control of standardizing attributes. please see

Re: [t13] e05168r0

2005-10-11 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I had privately responded to Karen Zelenko, making some of the same comments. I asked him to double-check my comments and to make a new revision (if possible) for the next meeting. I will post Seagate's comments later today. Thank You !!!

[t13] new doc posted

2005-10-04 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Before the October 18 meeting, please review this proposal posted yesterday. Proposal for a new informative annex describing some of the things about SMART attributes http://t13.org/docs2005/e05148r0-ACS-SMARTAttributesAnnex.pdf Thank You !!!

Fw: [t13] Fw: Question about ATA/ATAPI-6 standard.

2005-08-30 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I'm resending this, because there have been no responses on the reflector. Please reply. == - Forwarded by James C Hatfield/Seagate on 08/19/2005 11:55 AM - Edi Fraiman [EMAIL

[t13] Fw: Question about ATA/ATAPI-6 standard.

2005-08-19 Thread James . C . Hatfield
; Longmont, CO 80503 USA voice: 720-684-2120 fax: 720-684-2711 == - Forwarded by James C Hatfield/Seagate on 08/19/2005 11:55 AM - Edi Fraiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/17/2005 11:44:45 PM: I am HW Engineer in M-Systems. I have next

RE: [t13] Another Question to talk about next week

2005-08-19 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I think we should be VERY CAUTIOUS about talking about removing or obsoleting or redefining ANY of these bits. --- (word 128, bit 0) was intended to be a copy of (word 82, bit 1) (word 128, bit 1) was intended to be a

RE: [t13] Another Question to talk about next week

2005-08-19 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. However, I have a problem with the determinism of the second statement, i.e., if a drive comes up with W82/b1=1 AND W85/b1=0, you can never issue SECURITY SET PASSWORD or SECURITY DISABLE PASSWORD (they are part of the Security Mode feature set). So

[t13] Reminder: 2 week deadline for proposals

2005-08-08 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. This is just a friendly reminder that the end of today is the 2 week deadline for new proposals. Please send Dan everything you want posted. See you all on Aug 23 !!! Thank You !!! - Jim

[t13] testing reflector status - please ignore

2005-07-13 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. There was a report of the reflector being broken. This is just a test. Please ignore this msg. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-mail:

Re: [t13] TLC

2005-07-07 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The TLC document is, indeed, published. Doc number INCITS TR-37-2004 Doc title INCITS Technical Report for Information Technology - Time-Limited Commands (TLC) You may purchase the official INCITS publication at:

RE: [t13] WRITE LONG, SCT Write Long, and WRITE WRONG EXT

2005-06-09 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Keep in mind that the ATA 'streaming feature set' is still not widely available. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-mail: 389 Disc

[t13] Doc update available: e05120r1 Logical Sector Alignment

2005-05-31 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Please see the new revision of Seagate's Logical Sector Alignment proposal which was just posted. http://t13.org/docs2005/e05120r1-ACS-logical_sector_alignment.pdf Thank You !!! - Jim

Re: [t13] id words 82 and 85 bit 10

2005-05-27 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. HPA is one of several feature sets that act this way. 'if the feature set is supported', it is 'enabled' and you cannot have the case where it can be supported but disabled. I agree, this is confusing, and I have complained about it, too, from

[t13] Spam on T13

2005-05-16 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. We are looking into who is sending the spam, and into how to stop it. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield Seagate Technology LLC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s-mail: 389 Disc Drive;

[t13] Transparenz ist das Mindeste

2005-05-14 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Lese selbst: http://www.npd.de/npd_info/deutschland/2005/d0405-39.html

[t13] Fw: DCO Questions

2005-04-25 Thread James . C . Hatfield
] s-mail: 389 Disc Drive; Longmont, CO 80503 USA voice: 720-684-2120 fax: 720-684-2711 == - Forwarded by James C Hatfield/Seagate on 04/25/2005 12:18 PM

[t13] RE: DCO Questions

2005-04-25 Thread James . C . Hatfield
voice: 720-684-2120 fax: 720-684-2711 == - Forwarded by James C Hatfield/Seagate on 04/25/2005 12:18 PM - Joseph Chen - SISA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To ng.com

[t13] new posting

2005-04-05 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Please look at this new doc that Dan posted yesterday, for the April meeting. e05120r0 - Alignment of logical sectors within a long physical sector http://t13.org/docs2005/e05120r0-ACS-logical_sector_alignment.pdf Thank You !!!

[t13] FYI: Two week rule limit coming (resend)

2005-03-30 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. (resend: email problems may not have actually transmitted this yesterday) Just a reminder to all you T13 members out there. The 'two week' rule time limit before the April plenary is end-of-day Monday April 4. So, get your new proposals (and

[t13] FYI: Two week rule limit coming

2005-03-29 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Just a reminder to all you T13 members out there. The 'two week' rule time limit before the April plenary is end-of-day Monday April 4. So, get your new proposals (and updates) posted before then !!! Thank You !!!

[t13] Meeting announcement - April plenary

2005-03-08 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Seagate is hosting the April 2005 T13 plenary session #52. Place Ramada Hotel and Conference Center (formerly the Raintree Plaza Hotel) 1900 Ken Pratt Boulevard Longmont, CO 80501 Reservations: (800) 333- US Canada Toll

Re: [t13] FYI: Invitation to Ballot for P1285

2005-02-03 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The t13.org reflector does not support or allow attachments. Can you direct us to where the relevant document is posted ? Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield ATA Interface Firmware T13

Fw: [t13] Queuing

2005-01-28 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Robert W Dixon/Seagate wrote on 01/28/2005 03:42:39 PM: All Seagate SATA drives work in this manner also.

[t13] Updated docs on the website

2005-01-18 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I have posted updates to two docs on the T13 website. http://t13.org/docs2005/e04130r1-ACS-self_test_polling_time.pdf http://t13.org/docs2005/e04153r1-ACS-Annex_of_historical_cmd_usage.pdf Thank You !!!

Re: [t13] ATAPI Overlap and Queuing

2004-12-07 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The ATAPI queueing method using DSC for 'immediate' commands is still used for ATAPI tape. I don't know about optical ATAPI. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield ATA Interface Firmware T13

Re: [t13] ATA-7 Conflict: Download Microcode for ATAPI drives

2004-12-02 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. The answer to this is why LOTS of ATA stuff are 'prohibited' for ATAPI - - - If SCSI/ATAPI has a way to do it, then it should be done via ATAPI. 'download microcode' is normally done in SCSI via the SCSI 'write buffer' cmd (note: NOT the ATA 'write

[t13] New docs on the website

2004-11-30 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Yesterday, I sent Dan some docs to post on the T13 website, observing the 2 week deadline on new postings. But -- today he said he is on vacation, and appears unable to post them, so I took the liberty (as Dan's backup) of posting them myself. If

[t13] e04155r0 - DRQ=0 When ERR=1 Feature

2004-11-15 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I have some questions about the new proposal e04155r0 - DRQ=0 When ERR=1 Feature and Allocation Identify Device Words Proposal http://t13.org/docs2004/e041559r0-DRQ-ERR-and-ID-Words.pdf Why do we need this ? What problem does it really

Re: [t13] ATAPI Command Overlap and Queuing

2004-10-19 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. At today's T13 meeting, this was discussed: (e.g. overlaping ATAPI cmds using the Service/Release protocol) The general concensus was that it be dropped for ATAPI, but keeping it for queued DMA. No action was taken, but an official proposal will be

RE: [t13] Documents posted

2004-10-04 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Robert Elliott said: I don't get that from those documents. That approach would make the IDENTIFY DEVICE vs. IDENTIFY PACKET DEVICE command selection indeterminate. PM 1.1: Port multipliers use 69h/96h. SATA II 1.2: SEMB (currently attached) use

[t13] Fwd: [INCITS_Chairs] Updates to the INCITS/RD-2, Organization and Procedures

2004-09-30 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. |-+ | | John Lohmeyer| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | | | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| |

[t13] INCITS Study Group on Vocabulary September 22, 2004 Formation Meeting

2004-09-09 Thread James . C . Hatfield
, CO 80503 USA voice: 720-684-2120 fax: 720-684-2711 - Forwarded by James C Hatfield/Seagate on 09/09/2004 02:55 PM - |-+ | | John Lohmeyer| | | [EMAIL

[t13] T13 reflector list cleanup

2004-08-13 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I am the manager of the T13 reflector list, and am doing periodic cleanup of the list. When a msg goes out to the reflector, the following email addresses consistently bounce as indicating that the user is no longer valid. I am removing them from

[t13] testing list cleanup

2004-08-13 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. do not respond to this msg. I'm just testing the reflector list cleanup that just occurred. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield ATA Interface Firmware T13 (ATA/ATAPI) Standards Representative

[t13] FYI: TCG references and info

2004-08-13 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. This is a reminder that there will be an informative presentation by the Trusted Computing Group (TCG) at the August T13 plenary, on the morning of Tuesday Aug. 24. Here is some background material (from Steve Sletten) for reference. The TCG web

[t13] Trusted Commands Teleconference notice minutes from the last meeting

2004-07-30 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. |-+ | | Steven Sletten | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | un.com | | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| |

[t13] new doc posted

2004-07-30 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Please see this new doc posted on the T13 web/ftp site. It is a vendor- and industry-neutral overview of what 'trusted computing' seeks to accomplish. There will be a representative from TCG (Trusted Computing Group) giving a presentation on the

[t13] Invitation to join the Trusted Commands reflector

2004-07-19 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Heare Ye ! Heare Ye ! Heare Ye ! Announcing the debut of a new reflector for discussion of Trusted Commands issues involving these two proposals, and all that follow from them: T10 proposal: 04-14041SPC-3 Security Commands

[t13] Reflector status

2004-07-15 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. A name server change was made today at t13.org to correct some flakey behaviour. This may be the first reflector some of you have received in a while. You might want to catch-up on recent T13 reflector traffic by viewing this (unofficial) archive

[t13] test

2004-07-02 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I am testing whether or not I can (again) send a msg to the reflector. Please do not respond to this msg. - Jim Hatfield

Re: [t13] e04129r1 - Write Read Verify Proposal

2004-06-09 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Yes. The party for which we are sponsoring this proposal has requested 'disabled by default'. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield ATA Interface Firmware T13 (ATA/ATAPI) Standards

Re: [t13] 04-136r0.pdf SCSI to ATA Command Translations

2004-06-08 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Fixing the bytes/LBA at 512 is not acceptable. In ATA/ATAPI-7, T13 established support for * long LBAs * multiple LBAs/physical sector * multiple physical sectors/LBA Thank You !!!

RE: [t13] Web site

2004-06-08 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I am looking into this request. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield ATA Interface Firmware T13 (ATA/ATAPI) Standards Representative Seagate Technology - PSG e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[t13] Revised doc posted on the website

2004-06-07 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. I have posted a revision to document e04129r1 - Write Read Verify Proposal http://t13.org/docs2004/e04129r1_write_read_verify.pdf Please review this revision (instead of revision 0) for the June plenary. Thank You !!!

[t13] SCSI-ATA Translation: OUI web reference

2004-06-04 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. In this morning's SCSI-ATA translation teleconf, the OUI/World Wide Name topic was discussed. Here is the relevant web reference to official OUI and IAB lists of identifiers: http://standards.ieee.org/regauth/oui/index.shtml Thank You !!!

Re: [t13] Web site

2004-06-04 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. 't13.org' is still up. Try accessing it with a different browser. Sometimes I cannot access it with one, but I can with another. Thank You !!! - Jim Hatfield ATA Interface Firmware

Re: [t13] Feature Negotiation policy question

2004-05-27 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. (The following is my personal opinion only, and reflects designs implemented in a previous company) Unless specified otherwise, if the device does not indicate that the feature is supported, then then the command MAY either be aborted or treated as

[t13] June-4 SCSI/ATA Translation (SAT) Teleconference (cross-post)

2004-05-14 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. |-+-- | | Sheffield, Robert | | | L | | | robert.l.sheffield| | | @intel.com| | | Sent by: | |

[t13] New docs posted: Assignments for Trusted Computing Group

2004-05-13 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. Please get and read this new proposal from the T13 site: e04128r0 - Assignments for Trusted Computing Group

[t13] FYI: T10 news: SCSI to ATA Translation Study Group meeting

2004-04-15 Thread James . C . Hatfield
This message is from the T13 list server. This just in. Is T10 attempting to re-invent ATAPI ? I don't know any details, so don't ask me, but thought it worth sharing on the T13 reflector. - Jim Hatfield |-+ | |

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