Re: Bleed off the page

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

At 06:15 PM 4/4/2007, Art Campbell wrote:

Look at C:\Program
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle5 for an
example. Just set up the graphics and header text container on the
master pages...

If that directory isn't on your system, go to the Adobe FrameMaker
downloads page and look for the template package. May be down with the
old releases, like 5.5 or so. They're all worth downloading, but the
sample is in Template pack #1, I think.


Hmmm ... I have, in the past, not been able to get those version 5.5
templates to work in recent versions of FrameMaker. When I run the
executable files, it gives me errors about the version of FrameMaker
that I am using!

So, how do I make them work for me? Is there another source for these
for recent versions of FrameMaker?

Z
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Re: Bleed off the page

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Art.

Art Campbell wrote:

It doesn't give you an error message, it gives you a prompt asking if
you want to convert the file you're opening to your newer version's
file format. If you do, and if you save the file, then it works in
your newer version the next time you open it. The conversion only
needs to be done once.


Okay ... I will try again because I gave up the last time! :)

Thanks!

Z


On 4/5/07, Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 06:15 PM 4/4/2007, Art Campbell wrote:
 Look at C:\Program
 Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.2\samples\MoreSamples\Books\Bkstyle5 for an
 example. Just set up the graphics and header text container on the
 master pages...

 If that directory isn't on your system, go to the Adobe FrameMaker
 downloads page and look for the template package. May be down with the
 old releases, like 5.5 or so. They're all worth downloading, but the
 sample is in Template pack #1, I think.

Hmmm ... I have, in the past, not been able to get those version 5.5
templates to work in recent versions of FrameMaker. When I run the
executable files, it gives me errors about the version of FrameMaker
that I am using!

So, how do I make them work for me? Is there another source for these
for recent versions of FrameMaker?

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Re: Fwd: FrameScript - give a script to a colleague

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Yes, for sure.

Z

Stephen O'Brien wrote:
I have FrameScript and want to share a script with a colleague. Does 
that person also have to have FrameScript (i.e., buy a 2nd license) on 
his computer?

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Re: Tool to convert tables to paragraphs?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Pat.

Pat Christenson wrote:
Does anyone know of a FrameMaker plug-in that will convert tables to 
paragraphs throughout a book or directory?


Hmmm ... doesn't the built-in menu function Table-Convert to Paragraphs in
FrameMaker work for you?

Z
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Re: Search and replace content of a variable

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

I thoroughly endorse the BookVars plugin! It is an excellent tool and
I use it all the time. In fact, I literally updated a few properties
(using BookVars) for a FrameMaker book for creating a new PDF ... a few
minutes before I responded to this e-mail.

Z

Scott Prentice wrote:
You might also want to take a look at our BookVars plugin. This lets you 
define groups of variable definitions and import them into books as needed.


   http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php

...scott

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Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892



John Sgammato wrote:

I am using FrameMaker 7.2, unstructured.
Once you make the change to one file, then you can import the changes 
to all the rest of the files from FileImportFormatsVariable 
Definitions and import from the one you changed. You can select 
multiple files to import to.  
To accelerate the work of changing each variable, when the Variable 
window is open you can edit all of them in a row just by going down 
the list in the open window and clicking Change for each as you 
finish, but don't click Done until you are done with all of them. This 
is also a good time to add some number or other identifiers to the 
names of the variables. For example, I use B-Product for the bold 
version of the product name, and T-Admin for the title of the Admin 
Guide. While writing, I just hit Ctrl-0 to open the (almost invisible) 
Variables list at the bottom of the Window. Then I click the letter or 
number for the variable I need. Preceding each variable with a code 
letter or number and then a hyphen ensures it appears first in the 
alphabetical list, so Ctrl-0 followed by T gets me the Admin Guide 
title. Down arrow gets me to the other titles in my list, and 
eventually cycles through all variables.  
john




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Sent: Fri 6/22/2007 9:20 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Search and replace content of a variable



Hi all,

each time I use an existing book for a new product, I have to :
. open each file in the book,
. display the master pages,
. double click my right master page document title variable,
. change its definition (NewProduct Integration Guide),
. double click my left master page document title variable,
. change its definition,
. save.

Is there any way to do that faster using the Change and Replace function?

Any help appreciated,

Mathieu.

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Re: link to HTML doc from PDF

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Yes, as long as the HTML file has a URL, that it can be reached by, on an
accessible host. I use the Special-Hypertext...-Command from the menu
and select goto URL for this purpose, enter the URL in the Syntax
section of the pop-up in FrameMaker.

It works very well. The output PDF has a hyperlink to that URL that is
clickable and reachable with the default browser.

If the HTML is not on a host (with a URL), then I suppose the command
Open Document (same menu access) *might* also work as long as the HTML
file is accessible by the reader of the PDF, but, since I have not tried
that, I am not sure of the outcome.

Hope this helps,

Z

Carol Wade wrote:

Is it possible to add a link to an HTML document from a FrameMaker
document? My employer wants me to provide a link to the readme file from
the generated PDF.

(I'm on FrameMaker 7.2 and have Acrobat 8.)

Thanks y'all!

- Carol


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Re: Any beta testers yet of FrameMaker 8?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:

I signed up for beta testing of FM 8, but have not received any reply
back from Adobe yet. Has anyone else on the list had any response?


Yes. Some of us are testing it ...

Z
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Re: Frame 7.2 and Distiller 8.1 Crash

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Rick, et. al.

I am seeing exactly the same thing - no scripts in use, but I
see the occasional crash, and the same files as you noted left
behind in the directory, even though it did not happen with version
8.0.

This occurs when I print to the Adobe PDF printer, or save to PDF
format from inside FM 7.2. And, the distiller logs look just fine!

If you figure this out, please let us know what the fix is.

Thanks,

Z

Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Framers,

I am using FrameScript to save a bunch of FrameMaker documents to PDF. 
The script has been used sucessfully with Distiller 7.0.x. With 
Distiller 8.1, I get intermittent Distiller crashes. The PDF is actually 
being created, but it is still named with a .tpdf extension. Apparently, 
Distiller is crashing before it renames the file to .pdf.


Even on successful jobs, Distiller does not clean up the .tps and .tpdf 
files. Has anyone else seen problems like this, particularly with 
documents saved without a script. Thanks in advance.

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Re: border around a word?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

I don't have a way to make a complete box appear around the words,
but I can and do put a line above and below the words. This gets
me most of the functionality that I am looking---i.e., the kind of
unusual/special emphasis that you are striving for, I think!

To do this, I created a character format called Important, but
this can be anything, of course! :). I set its default font to
have an underline (specifically, the Numeric Underline) *and*
an Overline. See the character designer for more information.

Applying this to the words in question, gives me *most* of the
equivalent of the MS Word capability: lines above and below the
words, but not the left and right side.

Z

Gunnar Carlsson wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know if there is an easy way to put a border around 1-2 
words in a sentence,  for example to mark a button.
Example:Please press  ABORT  to leave this funcion. Here I would 
like to have a thin border around  ABORT.  It is very simple to do in 
Word, but I have not found anything like that in FrameMaker.


Any idea?

Gunnar Carlsson

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Re: Need 8 Install Help

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, guys.

Paul Findon wrote:

On 7 Aug 2007, at 18:55, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:


I would buy the thing off the Adobe website if they only let me -- in
a fair trade. I don't like being laughing stock of Adobe Finance
Specialists (or whatever they are) who have set up their feudal system
so that we, Europeans have to pay much more for the same software than
Americans. Why? There is no special Icelandic version. It seems we,
Icelanders, are supposed to buy off the Danish website where
everything is in Danish and everything is expensive!


Hi Bodvar,

I was just looking at pricing so fully sympathize.

If I'm spending GBP, based on current exchange rates, there are 3 ways I 
can buy FM upgrades:


1) U.K. £287
2) U.S. £150
3) Japan £115  (English version)

In the U.K., Adobe products are not 20% more than the U.S. Not 30%. Not 
even 50%. But a massive 100%. That's right, twice as much!


You can always get someone in the U.S. to buy it and post it to you. 
Even with postage and possible import duty, you can still make massive 
savings.


Amazon.com ships their products overseas. I do not know if they will ship
a US version of software out of the country though - might have some export
restrictions imposed by the US Dept of Commerce.

Z
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Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Dov, et. al.

Dov Isaacs wrote:

The activation mechanism supports two activations such
that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if
you need to move from a system to another (i.e., a third
system), there is a function to DE-activate on a system
which adds one back to your available activation count.
That system does work pretty well.


I believe that Acrobat 8 has something similar. I discovered
that by accident ... my laptop died and I could not have gone
through the process of DE-activation. When I loaded it onto a
new replacement system, I got a screen message that it was being
activated a second time (or some such info, as I recall badly
now).

Since this license is only one machine anyway (I bought a second
copy of Acrobat 8 for my home system), I did not worry about it
at the time. I hope that this issue does not get in my way if
this laptop (or OS load) croaks and I have to reload the OS in
any way.

Z


-Original Message-
From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 2:36 PM
To: Sarah O'Keefe
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

Thanks, Sarah,

Lot of things here to support my suspicion that Adobe should have
waited a couple of months with this release. We will probably see more
than a couple of patches soon.

This registering thing: does it mean that we no longer can install the
same FM on two computers like the license used to be (one at work or
main computer and one at home or on a laptop, IIRC)?

Bodvar

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Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Dov.

Dov Isaacs wrote:

If you in fact go over the two activation limit due to
equipment failure, call the phone number that appears on
your screen to talk with the Adobe Activation Center.
They are very understanding about such situations and
unless you abuse the privilege (such as having a hardware
failure every week), they will add an activation to your
copy via the activation server.


Good enough! I figured as much ... :) So, I did not worry
about it ... the laptop failure happened over 9 or 10 months
ago, and my new laptop has been fine. I did not even bother
to call Adobe about it when I got that message.

Thanks for the reassurance though!


Most of the big complainers were
in fact users who previously tried to install one copy
of a program on a whole fleet of computers.


It never fails me to amaze me that people think that what
they are doing is legal (and not a violation of the license
terms that they agreed to) and also dumb enough to think
that they would not be caught.

Sad ...

Z


-Original Message-
From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:35 PM
To: Dov Isaacs
Cc: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; Sarah O'Keefe; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

Hi, Dov, et. al.

Dov Isaacs wrote:

The activation mechanism supports two activations such
that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if
you need to move from a system to another (i.e., a third
system), there is a function to DE-activate on a system
which adds one back to your available activation count.
That system does work pretty well.

I believe that Acrobat 8 has something similar. I discovered
that by accident ... my laptop died and I could not have gone
through the process of DE-activation. When I loaded it onto a
new replacement system, I got a screen message that it was being
activated a second time (or some such info, as I recall badly
now).

Since this license is only one machine anyway (I bought a second
copy of Acrobat 8 for my home system), I did not worry about it
at the time. I hope that this issue does not get in my way if
this laptop (or OS load) croaks and I have to reload the OS in
any way.

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Re: XP Home and FM6?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Lester C. Smalley wrote:

Not a problem with XP Home specifically, but rather with the supplier
installer routine - I had the same issues with XP Pro.  It appears that
the virtual memory check in the installer interprets large values of
free disk space/VM as Negative values. 


Yes. Over 2 GB available memory (this is common in today's machines
given real and virtual memory usage) probably gets interpreted as a
negative number! A typical old problem with using a signed 32 bit
integer to hold this value ... people know better nowadays.


Another work-around is to temporarily set the VM down to a small figure
(like 256 MB)


If you have 2 GB of real RAM installed (not common yet ... but will
be soon!) then even this approach is not enough. You may have to remove
some RAM to get this old version to install (if the other workaround
mentioned does not work).

People need to bite the bullet and upgrade to later versions of FM.
I suspect low cost 7.2 upgrades will become available soon enough.
And, yes, I can appreciate that some people might have difficulty
with justifying even that price, I suppose, but if you can afford
to add 2 GB of RAM, then ... :) The new laptop mentioned below
probably has a lot of main memory and probably cost a bundle! :)

Z


On  Wednesday, August 22, 2007 09:54 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
 
| Hi Ragnar,
| 
| Try skipping the autorun installer and navigate to the FrameMaker

| folder on the CD. See if you can run the Setup.exe directly from
| there.
| 
| Rick Quatro

| Carmen Publishing
| 585-659-8267
| www.frameexpert.com
| 
| 
| Hello,

| I have been using XP Pro and FM6 without problems after applying
| the patches from Adobe. Now a friend of me is trying to install
| FM6 on a new laptop with XP Home but gets the error message
| This program requires at least 3MB of free virtual memory to run
| as soon as she tries to run the installation CD.
|
| She has been told that this is a known problem with XP home 
| and FM6. Any ideas?

|
| Thanks,
| Ragnar Hanas, MD
| Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

- Lester 
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Information Consultants, Inc.  Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712
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Removing conditional text inside a table after a compare

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, all.

In FrameMaker 7.2 latest patch version on a Windows XP Pro box.

I compared two documents and FM put in conditional text (like I asked
for) for the old/deleted and the new/inserted text into a new document.

After that, I checked all the old/deleted text and properly deleted it.

Now, I want the conditions on the new/inserted text to go away. I am
able to successfully do this by highlighting large regions of text and
then making the current Selection Unconditional from the menu that is
accessed from Special-Conditional Text-

BUT, I am unable to remove the conditions from text inside tables. It
asks me to select the entire row, which I do, but then the menu button
to Apply the selected Unconditional radio button has no effect!

What am I doing wrong? Or, is this a known issue with a work-around?
On some large tables, this could take me hours to do!

Z
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Re: Removing conditional text inside a table after a compare

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Fred,

Fantastic! That did the trick. I deleted all the comparison tags that
were created (inserted, comment and deleted) and when I got rid
of inserted, FrameMaker offered to then convert all the text that
was conditional into normal text!

And, it worked with text inside tables too! Just the way I needed!

Thanks much,

Z

Fred Ridder wrote:

The easiest way to globally make text tagged with the Inserted
condition unconditional is to delete the condition tag itself from
the Conditional Text dialog. When you do this for a tag that is
applied to text in the document, you get two options on how to
treat the tagged text:
delete it (appropriate for the Deleted condition)
make it unconditional (perfect for the Inserted condition)

This should work on anyting that is tagged with that condition,
whether body text, table text, table rows, or anchred frames.

-Fred Ridder



From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Removing conditional text inside a table after a compare
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:03:04 -0700

Hi, all.

In FrameMaker 7.2 latest patch version on a Windows XP Pro box.

I compared two documents and FM put in conditional text (like I asked
for) for the old/deleted and the new/inserted text into a new document.

After that, I checked all the old/deleted text and properly deleted it.

Now, I want the conditions on the new/inserted text to go away. I am
able to successfully do this by highlighting large regions of text and
then making the current Selection Unconditional from the menu that is
accessed from Special-Conditional Text-

BUT, I am unable to remove the conditions from text inside tables. It
asks me to select the entire row, which I do, but then the menu button
to Apply the selected Unconditional radio button has no effect!

What am I doing wrong? Or, is this a known issue with a work-around?
On some large tables, this could take me hours to do!

Z

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Re: batch deleting backup files

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Put the following into a file (named with extension .BAT):

@echo off
echo.
echo Deleting the following files from the current directory:
dir *.backup.* *.lck
echo.
del *.backup.* *.lck

and that will do the trick when you execute the batch program in a
DOS window or from the Run command line.

Z

Dave Reynolds wrote:

Hi Folks

Someone posted the text for a batch file (or similar) recently for 
cleaning up backup files from a folder.  I thought I had archived that 
information, but now I need it, I can't find it.  I'd appreciate it if 
someone could send me the the information.


Thanks

Dave

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Re: batch deleting backup files

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Mike.

Mike Wickham wrote:

Put the following into a file (named with extension .BAT):

@echo off
echo.
echo Deleting the following files from the current directory:
dir *.backup.* *.lck
echo.
del *.backup.* *.lck

and that will do the trick when you execute the batch program in a
DOS window or from the Run command line.


Even easier, put a shortcut to the batch file on your desktop or 
elsewhere, and click on it to run it.


Uh ... I think that is not gonna work too well, if you are in the wrong
directory (your desktop?) when you run it. In fact, I think my previous
advice to use the Run command line has the same problem! Oops.

So, best to have it in a folder that is in your path and then execute it
from a DOS window in the correct directory.

As, also mentioned by others for the DEL command, if you want all backup
files in a directory tree removed, you can add the /S switch. What was
not mentioned is that you can add that switch to the DIR command too!

BTW, I would be very careful of the /S switch ... if you are in the wrong
folder. When I tried it from my C:\ root, it found some files that I would
not want deleted (without knowing what they were)!

Z
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Re: batch deleting backup files

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

 Perhaps adding a
 master path and /s to catch the subdirectories would do the trick

Yes, works if the master path is consistent and does not cause
problems for any non-FM files below it - not likely, but you never
know!

Yet another possibility ... since the folders may be different for
different projects (but now, we are starting to gild the lily):

Add a parameter to the .BAT file and call it with the directory you
want - with no parameter, it just works in the current directory.
Still best to do it from a DOS window or a Run command line (which
works in this case, since you can specify the directory). BTW, I
continue to be leery of the /S - too uncontrolled an action!

@echo off
echo.
echo Deleting the following files from the directory:
cd %1%
dir *.backup.* *.lck
echo.
del *.backup.* *.lck

Regards,

Z

Rene Stephenson wrote:
It's been a while since I messed with .BAT, but... Perhaps adding a 
master path and /s to catch the subdirectories would do the trick:

 @echo off
 echo.
 echo Deleting the following files from the current directory:
 cd [MainPathForFMfiles]
 dir *.backup.* *.lck /s
 echo.
 del *.backup.* *.lck /s
HTH
Rene Stephenson

*/Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

Hi, Mike.

Mike Wickham wrote:
  Put the following into a file (named with extension .BAT):
 
  @echo off
  echo.
  echo Deleting the following files from the current directory:
  dir *.backup.* *.lck
  echo.
  del *.backup.* *.lck
 
  and that will do the trick when you execute the batch program in a
  DOS window or from the Run command line.
 
  Even easier, put a shortcut to the batch file on your desktop or
  elsewhere, and click on it to run it.

Uh ... I think that is not gonna work too well, if you are in the wrong
directory (your desktop?) when you run it. In fact, I think my previous
advice to use the Run command line has the same problem! Oops.

So, best to have it in a folder that is in your path and then execute it
from a DOS window in the correct directory.

As, also mentioned by others for the DEL command, if you want all backup
files in a directory tree removed, you can add the /S switch. What was
not mentioned is that you can add that switch to the DIR command too!

BTW, I would be very careful of the /S switch ... if you are in the
wrong
folder. When I tried it from my C:\ root, it found some files that I
would
not want deleted (without knowing what they were)!

Z

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Re: batch deleting backup files

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Gilding the lily further: you could add another parameter %2% to
the dir and del commands to put in the /S ... as long as you
also remembered to use the %1% for the top of the directory
that you want the backups to be deleted in - and did not use
it accidentally with a file name or directory name:

@echo off
echo.
echo Deleting the following files from the directory:
cd %1%
dir *.backup.* *.lck %2%
echo.
del *.backup.* *.lck %2%

Z

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

  Perhaps adding a
  master path and /s to catch the subdirectories would do the trick

Yes, works if the master path is consistent and does not cause
problems for any non-FM files below it - not likely, but you never
know!

Yet another possibility ... since the folders may be different for
different projects (but now, we are starting to gild the lily):

Add a parameter to the .BAT file and call it with the directory you
want - with no parameter, it just works in the current directory.
Still best to do it from a DOS window or a Run command line (which
works in this case, since you can specify the directory). BTW, I
continue to be leery of the /S - too uncontrolled an action!

@echo off
echo.
echo Deleting the following files from the directory:
cd %1%
dir *.backup.* *.lck
echo.
del *.backup.* *.lck

Regards,

Z

Rene Stephenson wrote:
It's been a while since I messed with .BAT, but... Perhaps adding a 
master path and /s to catch the subdirectories would do the trick:

 @echo off
 echo.
 echo Deleting the following files from the current directory:
 cd [MainPathForFMfiles]
 dir *.backup.* *.lck /s
 echo.
 del *.backup.* *.lck /s
HTH
Rene Stephenson

*/Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

Hi, Mike.

Mike Wickham wrote:
  Put the following into a file (named with extension .BAT):
 
  @echo off
  echo.
  echo Deleting the following files from the current directory:
  dir *.backup.* *.lck
  echo.
  del *.backup.* *.lck
 
  and that will do the trick when you execute the batch program 
in a

  DOS window or from the Run command line.
 
  Even easier, put a shortcut to the batch file on your desktop or
  elsewhere, and click on it to run it.

Uh ... I think that is not gonna work too well, if you are in the 
wrong
directory (your desktop?) when you run it. In fact, I think my 
previous

advice to use the Run command line has the same problem! Oops.

So, best to have it in a folder that is in your path and then 
execute it

from a DOS window in the correct directory.

As, also mentioned by others for the DEL command, if you want all 
backup
files in a directory tree removed, you can add the /S switch. What 
was

not mentioned is that you can add that switch to the DIR command too!

BTW, I would be very careful of the /S switch ... if you are in the
wrong
folder. When I tried it from my C:\ root, it found some files that I
would
not want deleted (without knowing what they were)!

Z




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Re: an apology (LinkedIn fiasco)

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

No problem with me! :) I accepted the invite ...

Z

Bill Swallow wrote:

All,

Many of you whom I've conversed with through this list have been sent
invites for LinkedIn. This was not intentional. Somehow instead of
connecting with a few choice Gmail contacts, LinkedIn sent an invite
to everyone in my Gmail address book. (That's a lot of people!)

For more information:
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com/2007/08/oops-now-i-feel-silly.html
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com/2007/08/linkedin-fiasco.html

Again, I deeply apologize for the cold contact. It wasn't intentional.

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Re: batch processing of large numbers of text files?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Ben.

B Hechter wrote:

Well, it looks like I will need to batch process a large number of ASCII
(plain text) system configuration files in the same manner, in order to
filter out information that I do not need, before I import them into Frame.

I don't know if this a proper topic for the list, but it takes me back to my
UNIX days of using sed with great success (even for a non-programmer like
me), to create a standard set of batch text processing instructions that
could be applied consistently and repetitively to large numbers of
pattern-based plain text files.

The question is two fold:
a) any sed FM users out there?


I still use sed for certain repetitive patterned-text editing functions,
but not to process the text for subsequent input into FrameMaker! This
would work fine, of course, just surprising to me.


b) are there other similar (economical) options for batch processing of text
files?


sed is free if you have a UNIX or Linux system handy. Price is tough
to beat. :)

But, perl is another very strong contender that I also use sometimes
for these task. In most ways, *much* stronger than sed (depending on
the complexity of the task at hand), but has a higher learning curve
- particular if you already know sed, or do not know either program.

Many free text editors, even on non-UNIX systems, have batch mode text
editing capability too ...

Z
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Re: batch processing of large numbers of text files?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Oh, yeah - good input! I forgot about awk ... I don't use it anymore
though. sed and perl do the job in almost all my minimal use of these
kinds of text editing functions.

Regards,

Z

Chris Borokowski wrote:

Stick with what you know. Go to www.activestate.com and download
ActivePerl, which inherits much of its file processing behavior from
awk and sed.

http://www.activestate.com/

I can help with introductory questions.

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Re: FrameMaker Console

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Minimize it is what I do too ... :)

(FrameScript pops it up each time you start FrameMaker, for example.)

Z

Scott Prentice wrote:
However, plugins may make use of the console, and I believe that it will 
still open with this setting disabled. I find that the best thing to do 
is to leave it open. Once it is open, you can minimize it or let it go 
to the background and it won't pop to the front any more .. as long as 
you don't keep closing it, it shouldn't be much of a bother.  :)


...scott


Rick Henkel wrote:

Flato, Gillian wrote:

Does anyone know how to make it so that the annoying FrameMaker console
doesn't open?



On the Preferences dialog box, clear the Show File Translation Errors 
check box.


Rick


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Re: FrameMaker Console

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Frank.

Frank Elmore wrote:


You can turn off the FrameScript signon  console messages by unchecking 
a box on the options screen or changing the value in fscript.ini file.


Oh, it does not bother me. I just minimize it and go on ...

But, thanks for the info anyway! :)

Z


Frank Elmore
Project leader for FrameScript

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Subject: Re: FrameMaker Console



Minimize it is what I do too ... :)

(FrameScript pops it up each time you start FrameMaker, for example.)


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Re: radical revamping of techpubs

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Bill Swallow wrote:
 I don't buy your few companies generalization. Perhaps small pre-IPO
 companies and the like, but I've not met an established company that
 didn't have a solid tech writing staff in place.

Correct ... and even small, pre-IPO, companies often have competent, 
professional, tech writers. :)

We have 60 employees (10 in SW Engineering, 8 in HW Engineering, 15 in Network Operations, 6 in Admin/Finance and the 
rest in Marketing and Sales).


Of the 60 employees, one is a full-time Senior Technical Writer and we also occasionally bring in technical writer 
contractors (1 to 3 ... depending on the needs) for crunch projects.


I am not that Sr. Tech Writer, by the way, but I also produce a lot of technical material. As one of the founders, 
almost 75-80% of the technical docs - sent to customers - is my work ... our Sr. Tech Writer, has approved of my 
technical and general writing skills, fortunately! :)


FWIW, I have *always* believed that quality written material for any company is fundamentally important. Otherwise, it 
can be a stamp of incompetence ... if a company can't provide accurate, well-written, clear, documentation, as well as a 
timely process of correcting errors that *do* creep in, how can customers rely on them to provide quality products and 
services?


Regards,

Z
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Re: FrameMaker enhancement suggestion: book-level custom variables

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Steve.

Steve Rickaby wrote:

Subject line says it all, really.

I do know about MIF fragments, but IMHO we should not have to mess about like 
that.


I use the Leximation BookVars plug-in for this purpose with excellent results! I
endorse this completely.

Check out www.leximation.com for more info.

Z
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Re: Sorry for the bandwidth, but is the Frameusers site functioning?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Tammy ... may I suggest you get a @Gmail.com e-mail account? I can
send you a Gmail invite for this purpose, to your current active
e-mail address.

Once you get that account going - very easy, by the way - and get the
Framers list issues worked out and pointing to it), you can then
*automatically* forward e-mails sent to that address to any other
address as you change gigs (so then you do not need to read multiple
e-mail sites).

Then, it is all under your control for the future. Let me know if you
want me to send you the gmail invite.

I'll make this a public response, since I think this is a workable
solution for others too ... (although I'd go nuts trying to field
Gmail invites)! :)

Regards,

Z

Van Boening, Tammy wrote:

All,

I have been trying in vain to unsubscribe from the framers list and
tech-whirl list for several days now as I am leaving this gig and will
soon have a new email address; however, no luck. No matter what I do,
whenever I log in, I either get timed out or when I try to unsubscribe,
an access denied message. I even tried sending an email direct to the
listadmin email address that is listed on the first page of the website,
but I get immediate bounce back from that as undeliverable. Has anyone
else been experiencing these or similar problems with the site?

TIA,

TVB

Tammy L. Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division

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Re: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, John.

John Wilcox wrote:

This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please reply
off-list, and I'll summarize the results next week. Thanks for your time!

A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.


I created specific items in the Character Catalog and apply them
as needed. The Control-B and Control-I approach is too easy to
accidentally remove.

Zaeem
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Re: Frame vs. Quicksilver - Please help me save Frame

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, all.

A related sidebar: Ever use FrameMaker and put the Interleaf in a
document and then spell-check it in FrameMaker?

Try it! :)

Z

Karen L. Zorn wrote:

Cost. Last I heard Interleaf was thousands per seat, while FM is much, much
less.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


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Subject: Frame vs. Quicksilver - Please help me save Frame


The company I work for uses Frame, Interleaf and Word in three separate
offices. (PC version) Management has requested that we create a uniform
style for documentation starting now. They're expecting us to share content
and presumably document templates. In my opinion, all of us should use
Frame, but the Interleaf users have dug in their heels. It's become a
non-constructive us vs. them conflict. As a result, I need to come up with a
list of business reasons why Interleaf is not the correct choice for the
company. 
 
I know of several from prior discussions on the list, but need more.
 
1. IL to PDF conversions can be less straightforward than Frame to PDF

conversions. Does IL generate bookmarks? 2. Translation memory tools don't
support IL, dramatically increasing costs.

3. Interleaf/Quicksilver/Broadvision corp. is far more likely to end up in
Chapter 11 than Adobe. 
4. Frame is more widely used and offers greater compatibility with the rest
of the publishing world. 
 
Does anyone have any additional words of wisdom? Particularly ones that can

have costs assigned to them?
 
Thanks, 
Joe
 
D. Joseph Sims

Technical Documentation
The Gleason Works
1000 University Ave.
Rochester, NY 14692-2970

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Re: Frame vs. Quicksilver - Please help me save Frame

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Richard, et. al.

Combs, Richard wrote:

BTW, back when I was working in Interleaf (on Sun 3/50s), we demo'd this
new software called FrameMaker. My evaluation? It had a brilliant
paradigm and lots of potential, but it wasn't robust and full-featured
enough to replace Interleaf. 


Times change. Now, you couldn't drag me back to Ileaf for love or money.


Wow! Bring back some interesting memories for me too! :)

I first compared Interleaf and FrameMaker on Sun 3/50's in 1989.
The tech pub department in the company was using Interleaf, and
our engineering department was evaluating which way to go for our
documentation needs. The tech pub folks were pushing us to select
Interleaf for consistency.

We ended up selecting FrameMaker for a few simple reasons (at the
time.) FrameMaker had a server license concept (with checkout), but
Interleaf was locked to the single workstation. And, when you ran
Interleaf, it took over the graphics and you could not run other
windowing tools (Suntools from Sun for example.)

The choice was clear (although it took some convincing for the
CEO - who approved all capital purchases) and we never looked back!

Z
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Re: PDF to FrameMaker?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

I go from PDF to Word using Scansoft (now called Nuance) PDF Converter
Professional and then this can be output as an RTF for FrameMaker to read.

Relatively inexpensive solution!

Z

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Hi -

FrameMaker 7, Windows 2000 Professional.

Does anyone know of a way to convert a PDF to FrameMaker? I'm not talking 
about placing the PDF as a graphic image but actually converting it to live text and 
graphics. The only thing I can think of is cut-and-paste text and save out the graphics.

Thanks in advance.

Pat


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Re: Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Richard

Combs, Richard wrote:
David Levy wrote: 
I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in 
Word, I build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program 
to convert it to Word.  The results are better than FM's 
Save as feature. 


shudder / OCR??? The PDF contains *real words*, not an *image* of the
words! Why on earth would you want to treat it as an image? 


Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true image OCR
program. I suspect a mis-speak! :)

While I have no reason to transfer from FrameMaker to Word, I do use
a program from Nuance (formerly Scansoft) called PDF Converter 3
to bring in standard PDF files into Word. This works directly on the
PDF file, not an image.

And, PDF Converter 3 does provide pretty darn good results for this
conversion process.

Z
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Re: Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Richard

Combs, Richard wrote:
Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: 
 
Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true image 
OCR program. I suspect a mis-speak! :)


Perhaps you're right. But in fact, there's no _other_ kind of OCR
program. OCR stands for optical character recognition. It's the
process of converting an _image_ or _representation_ of a character into
the ASCII (or ANSI or UTF...) character that it appears to represent. 


Yes, sorry, that is what I meant too. Meaning he is *not* doing a true
OCR from an image - just converting from the PDF file with some software
(like I do).

At least, I hope that is the case! Going to Word from a scanned-in
image (printed from the PDF) would be quite an unusual way to do this!


Pedants 'r Us :-)


:) :)

Z
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Hyperlinks in Acrobat not present?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, all.

I hope this issue has an obvious answer. Here is the context:


1. I am using FrameMaker 7.2p158 on a Windows PC and Acrobat 7.0.7 Professional.

2. My FrameMaker book has text insets (relevance will become clear in a
moment).

3. I use cross-references to header paragraphs, tables and other sections
of my book.

4. I use the Save Book as PDF menu item to generate my PDF file from the
FrameMaker book.


Some of the cross-references automatically result in clickable hyper-links
in the PDF, but some don't!?!

I have not isolated this to the text insets, although that was my initial
reaction to the problem.

Is there any way to force the PDF to contain the links for all such cross-
references? I would *strongly* prefer not to edit the PDF to add them in
manually into the PDF - this file is re-generated from FrameMaker too often
in this document!

Z
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Re: Hyperlinks in Acrobat not present?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Martha.

Martha J Davidson wrote:

At 04:14 PM 5/17/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have not isolated this to the text insets, although that was my initial
reaction to the problem.


That's exactly it. Cross-references in text insets don't become
clickable links in PDF. Unfortunately, that's how it's built.

Is there any way to force the PDF to contain the links for all such 
cross-

references? I would *strongly* prefer not to edit the PDF to add them in
manually into the PDF - this file is re-generated from FrameMaker too 
often

in this document!


The only way is to convert the insets to text before generating
the PDF. I had Rick Quatro write a custom FrameScript for me
that does this and generates the PDF, then restores the insets.
That was the only solution I could come up with that didn't
involve lots of manual work each time I needed PDFs.


Ouch! Seems a bit overkill ... may have to be the solution I go
to to solve this.

Thanks!

Z
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Re: Career advice--which application to focus on: FM or Word?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Diane.

Diane Gaskill wrote:

Word is also a memory hog.  It uses more than twice as much RAM as FM at
launch and sucks up more as time goes on.  It often runs out of memory and
sends error messages about no longer letting you undo anything.  If you are
working in a Word doc over 150 pages or so, you are definitely taking
chances and are likely to experience Word literally slowing down and
eventually grinding to a halt.


Heartily agreed! I find the threshold to be lower - about 50 to 60 pages.
After which the problems in Word simply get too painful to deal with on
any given document. Particular when making lots of updates and changes
and graphics (don't get me started on that topic in Word!).

So, I use Word for most documents, since others in our company do not
have FrameMaker - then they can make changes (all changes and approvals
are separate issues, of course) without my being involved in the work.

But, when I reach the 50 page threshold for any given document, I convert
it to FrameMaker. This means that I also then get the responsibility for
*all* future changes to the document.

Good and bad side-effects. :)

Z
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What do you use for PDF generation?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, all.

Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure
I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very
familiar with similar polices to what I describe here.

We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent outside
the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or
FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include
text e-mail!

This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user
computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the
Internet at all times.

Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is
overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create
documents and files in Word or Excel for example.

Hence, my questions:

1. What are you all using for PDF file creation?

2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and
send back the form!

3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar
policy?

Thanks!

Z
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Re: What do you use for PDF generation?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Bill.

Bill Swallow wrote:

If you have enough people who need to create PDFs by corporate
mandate, look into setting up Adove Acrobat Elements. It's a volume
license solution that starts at 100 seats. Your entire company could
be set up to use this.


Thanks! You are the second person to refer to this product. I will look
into it, particularly since a few of us use Acrobat Pro and the products
are probably pretty similar in many regards - makes support easier.

One other product I found while googling is www.pdf995.com! This has a
pretty outstanding price for the Enterprise license. Has anybody used
their stuff?

Z


On 5/21/06, Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, all.

Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure
I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very
familiar with similar polices to what I describe here.

We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent outside
the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or
FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include
text e-mail!

This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user
computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the
Internet at all times.

Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is
overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create
documents and files in Word or Excel for example.

Hence, my questions:

1. What are you all using for PDF file creation?

2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and
send back the form!

3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar
policy?

Thanks!

Z
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Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Ron Teplitz wrote:
Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat 
Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does all of what 
many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version of Frame do 
you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution included Distiller?


Cheers,
Ron


Oh, I should have been clearer. I definitely use Acrobat Pro 7 for
my PDF creation! With output from FrameMaker and all other programs
too. :)

My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF creation
ability for *all* the employees in our company, and the price of
Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very prohibitive. These
folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... most are simply using Word
and Excel for their daily stuff.

Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or PDF995
as the preferred solution for this new policy ... those seem to
have garnered the most votes too, but I do plan on quickly looking
at some of the open-source freebie stuff as well.

What I have tried and did NOT like: PDF-Xchange. This came as a
freebie demo with some app that I got, and it simply crashes too 
often on my system. Not good enough.


Another one that was still a tad bit too expensive (as an Enterprise
total cost) was PDF Convertor 3 from Nuance. I liked it (I use my
copy of the PDF to Word convertor on occasion), but the total cost
is a bit high.

This is why PDF995 is leading the pack right now ...

Thanks!

Z


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Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:01:28 -0700
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Hi, all.

Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure
I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very
familiar with similar polices to what I describe here.

We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent outside
the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or
FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include
text e-mail!

This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user
computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the
Internet at all times.

Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is
overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create
documents and files in Word or Excel for example.

Hence, my questions:

1. What are you all using for PDF file creation?

2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and
send back the form!

3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar
policy?

Thanks!

Z


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Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Dov.

Dov Isaacs wrote:

A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo
$9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates
is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these
PDF files escape the environment in which they were created
and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF
files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign,
or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font
definitions with improper names and encodings that cause
chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files.
Just because those other employees are not publishing vast
tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools.


Good points, yes!

We have some people who create print-quality documents for which
we need to be sure that the PDF's are very high quality. For these
folks, we have Acrobat Pro installed on their systems - the right
way to go for sure!

It is the rest of the folks, who send out docs and files outside
our company for reading or review and other purposes, that we want
to have in PDF format. The purpose is to avoid having original
documents out there. The policy was created because we got burned
by properties information in a Word doc recently - an older doc
was used to create a new one and ... oops!

None of the PDF's from these other employees is likely to be used
in situations where they might cause problems like you mention.
So, I am fairly confident (but keeping my fingers crossed till I
test some more) that we should be okay with something like PDF995.

But, I will definitely try things out in detail before proceeding ...

Of course, if Adobe Elements were a LOT lower in price for multiple
copies, or the server version of Acrobat was not so crazily over-
priced for our simple needs (less than 50 employees total!), we
would not be looking at cheaper alternatives. Hint, hint! :)

Thanks for the input regardless! It is appreciated.

Z


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:09 AM
To: Ron Teplitz
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?

Ron Teplitz wrote:
Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat 
Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does 
all of what 
many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version 
of Frame do 
you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution 

included Distiller?

Cheers,
Ron
Oh, I should have been clearer. I definitely use Acrobat Pro 
7 for my PDF creation! With output from FrameMaker and all 
other programs too. :)


My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF 
creation ability for *all* the employees in our company, and 
the price of Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very 
prohibitive. These folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... 
most are simply using Word and Excel for their daily stuff.


Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or 
PDF995 as the preferred solution for this new policy ... 
those seem to have garnered the most votes too, but I do 
plan on quickly looking at some of the open-source freebie 
stuff as well.


What I have tried and did NOT like: PDF-Xchange. This came as 
a freebie demo with some app that I got, and it simply 
crashes too often on my system. Not good enough.


Another one that was still a tad bit too expensive (as an 
Enterprise total cost) was PDF Convertor 3 from Nuance. I 
liked it (I use my copy of the PDF to Word convertor on 
occasion), but the total cost is a bit high.


This is why PDF995 is leading the pack right now ...

Thanks!

Z

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Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Dov.

Dov Isaacs wrote:

Hint, hint ... I am just a dumb engineer here at Adobe.
I don't set the prices or have any influence over those
issues.


Oops, I was not aiming that at you per se! Sorry about that.


By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate
to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
does make its way into the Description part of 
Document Properties  !


Ouch. I did not know this happened. I will check my stuff
very carefully then and set it up properly. Is there a way
to disable this permanently, like a setting, in Acrobat so
that it does not occur as a matter of course?

Z


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From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:36 PM

To: Dov Isaacs
Cc: Ron Teplitz; Framers@frameusers.com
Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?

Hi, Dov.

Dov Isaacs wrote:

A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo
$9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates
is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these
PDF files escape the environment in which they were created
and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF
files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign,
or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font
definitions with improper names and encodings that cause
chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files.
Just because those other employees are not publishing vast
tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools.

Good points, yes!

We have some people who create print-quality documents for which
we need to be sure that the PDF's are very high quality. For these
folks, we have Acrobat Pro installed on their systems - the right
way to go for sure!

It is the rest of the folks, who send out docs and files outside
our company for reading or review and other purposes, that we want
to have in PDF format. The purpose is to avoid having original
documents out there. The policy was created because we got burned
by properties information in a Word doc recently - an older doc
was used to create a new one and ... oops!

None of the PDF's from these other employees is likely to be used
in situations where they might cause problems like you mention.
So, I am fairly confident (but keeping my fingers crossed till I
test some more) that we should be okay with something like PDF995.

But, I will definitely try things out in detail before proceeding ...

Of course, if Adobe Elements were a LOT lower in price for multiple
copies, or the server version of Acrobat was not so crazily over-
priced for our simple needs (less than 50 employees total!), we
would not be looking at cheaper alternatives. Hint, hint! :)

Thanks for the input regardless! It is appreciated.

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Re: 7.2 crash on exit

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Mark.

Mark Barratt wrote:
 And does everyone get the 'undo history will be lost' every time they 

save or print?


This one I know about! :) You can set this up in the TFrameMaker to
only come up once (or not at all) per FrameMaker session.

Use File-Preferences-General to see the check box for Show warnings
while clearing history and the selector for Once ... or the Always.

I have it set to show once (may go to none later). Much less painful
that way. :)

Z

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Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Fred.

Ouch! This is exactly the reason (information inside files) that I
started this set of questions in the first place! We wanted to avoid
a problem with inadvertent hidden content in a Word or Excel file
that somebody here sent out of the company.

I was hoping that PDF would prevent it, but learned that I needed to
do something extra to prevent it! At least this info is automatically
not present in the PDF if I disable the item as suggested. In Word,
we not have such controls, as far as I know, and asking users to all
remember to change the properties, etc., is not going to work. Too
easy to forget!

So, sorry, Shlomo, I'd much rather live without the feature than
have such problems occur! :)

Z

Ridder, Fred wrote:
That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was 
specified. The search returns all pages that include the word 
Document or the word Settings, not just the ones that have
inappropriate metadata strings. 


Use the search specification
Documents and Settings +pdf  
for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a 
hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included 
a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not
the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search 
returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000

documents that deal with some aspect of computer security!

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


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Behalf Of rebecca officer
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:03 AM
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Good grief - that google search for Documents and Settings\
filetype:pdf has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop
Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller?

Cheers, Rebecca


Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/06 10:56 PM 

Dov Isaacs wrote:


... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate
to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
does make its way into the Description part of
Document Properties  !



An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation
(= 
turn off Convert Document Information in PDFMaker).


I disagree with this recommendation;  more in this month's Hmmm..., 
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html

(Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable
it?)


Shlomo Perets

MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting  add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
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Re: Monitor issue

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

The Dell 20 LCD is a very good value! I use it (at home) and one
of their 24 wide-screen LCD at work. The 20 has 1600x1200 native
resolution, and the 24 has 1920x1200 native.

Excellent results, and there are occasionally sales at Dell on the
LCD monitors. The 20 is often on sale (go to the Small Business
section - the prices are always best there).

Although absolute color accuracy is the reason I also have a Sony
20 GDM-F20 on a third system for images, there is no reason to use
a CRT anymore, imho, for general purpose text and image editing.

If you want greater color accuracy, then you can calibrate the LCD
using a Spyder color calibrator.

Z

George Newfield wrote:

Hi Framers,

After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just went 
south. So if I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high quality 
20 monitor that won't bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors 
in the $350-$500 price range up to the task, or does one have to spend 
over $1000 for equivalent results?


I do a great deal of work in Photoshop and of course FrameMaker, using 
WinXP Pro, SP2.


Many thanks in advance,
George
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Re: Recommended Laptop Hardware Requirements help please

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

We have a bunch of Dell Latitudes here too. They work very well!
My current machine is an Alienware super-fast laptop. You might
convince your IT department to get that - since Alienware is now
owned by Dell! :)

Anyway, one of Dell's high-end laptops, with at least 1GB of RAM
(more preferred - memory is cheap) will do just fine for FrameMaker.

I use an external 24 LCD monitor (a Dell 2405) for editing when
I am not traveling. On the road, the 17 wide-screen LCD works
well. My older Dell D810 had a 15 wide-screen LCD and that was
pretty good too. Resolution is 1920 x 1200 on all these screens.

Zaeem

John Posada wrote:

Hi, Loren...we use Dells. No complaints. I'm writing on a Latitude
right now.

Just get any laptop from their Small Business category. You'll want
at least a GB of ram and 80GB or more of HD. The configurations they
sell handle everything on your list. 


--- Loren R. Elks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi:

My department is considering replacing our Windows desktop PCs with
laptops.  Our IT department buys all of our hardware from Dell. 
This is something we can't change.



John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually 
known what the question is.
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Re: Recommended Laptop Hardware Requirements help please

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Hi, Rene.

Rene Stephenson wrote:

Personally, I can't get by with an integrated chipset for graphics, because we use a lot 
of detailed isometric drawings in our FM docs that can really slow down the ability to 
page through a document. However, that puts you at the high end of the Dell laptops. I 
just recently bought a laptop from www.alienware.com. Alienware was purchased by Dell, 
but the laptop I got from Alienware on an apples-to-apples comparison was about 30% 
cheaper than a Dell. It's actually considered a gamer's laptop due to the high powered 
processor and graphics capabilities. You'd be surprised how many techies are 
familiar with Alienware stuff. ;-)


Agreed on the integrated chipset graphics issue! Which is why I like
what I have. My Alienware MJ-12 uses an nVidia 6800 GT Plus plug-in
card ... not integrated chipset graphics. Their current model now
uses an nVidia 7800 or 7900 GT plug-in card.

The relevant specs are:

- Intel Pentium 4 desktop CPU running at 3.6 GHz.
- 2 GB RAM.
- 120 GB Disks (two 7200 rpm drives running RAID-0)
- 17 wide-screen, 1920 x 1200 resolution.
- Numeric keypad arranged like a desktop keyboard, very usable.
- nVidia 6800 GT Plus graphics card.

Yeah, the battery life is pathetic (75 to 90 minutes) and the weight
is much too high to really call this a laptop. But it serves my other
(non-FrameMaker) needs to have a desktop processor in a portable case
for my travel. Call it a luggable perhaps. About $4000 in total.

Pros:

- Fast.
- High-speed graphics.
- High-speed disk access (RAID-0). FM loads in seconds.
- Did I mention Fast?

Cons:

- No convenient docking station, like the Dells. I have to plug in
a few things when I sit down at my desk.
- Weight is much higher than I would want.
- Power supply brick is heavy.

Hope this helps.

Zaeem
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Re: Clarification of table title problem.

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

I have noted a related (well, not really, but sort of!) problem with using
side-head columns and table. In some of my documents, the table title uses
both the side-head and the text column (the table number is in the side-head
in these documents).

When I make the table width small, the table title refuses to stretch over
the side-head column and stays in the main text column only - left aligned.
The table itself also moves over (i.e., does not stay left-aligned with
the edge of the main text column).

I have to force larger table columns - if you pick *just* the right number
for the column widths (or add some columns), the table title snaps over the
side- head column like I want and the table position adjusts itself to the
left edge of the main text column!

I hope I am describing this properly ... I can create a small text document
to show it, but I think this list software does not allow attachments.

Z

Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Richard,

I think you are misdiagnosing the problem. Try this:

1) Insert a left-aligned table with a title in a text column. Make sure 
the table is narrower than the text column.


2) Set the table title to be left-aligned. Type text in the table title 
and you will see that if it is longer than the table width, it will 
extend beyond the right edge of the table. This does not happen if the 
title is center-aligned.


Design-considerations aside, this is clearly a bug.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



Rhea Barron wrote:


Since my tables are generally narrower than the text column
they're in, this is a problem. I don't want the titles to be
wider than the tables.
I can't find any way to make the titles narrower when the
title paragraph tag is flush left. The minute I change the
title para tag to be centered, the text rect that contains
the table title changes to become exactly the width of the
table. But as luck would have it, I don't like centered
titles. I like flush left titles.


But you're getting flush left titles. Flush left means starting at
the left margin of the text column. :-)

It sounds like you're centering these narrow tables within the column,
and then you want the titles to align with the left edge of the tables.
Sorry, FM doesn't work that way. The locations of the tables and their
titles are both in relation to the text column, frame, or underlying
page.


What puzzles me is that I've used FrameMaker for over 15
years and I don't remember ever having this problem before.
But now it occurs in even a brand-new generic FrameMaker file.


Maybe you've never tried to mix centered tables with non-centered titles
before. I never have. And, frankly, I never will -- it sounds like a bad
design idea to me. Why not rethink it? If you align your tables flush
left, or some fixed indent, like an inch, your problem goes away.

IMNSO, YMMV, HTH
Richard


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Re: Any way to highlight file imports when by reference?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Peter.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Peter Gold wrote:
For editing purposes, you could define and apply a conditional text tag 
whose text indicator (underline, overline, strikethrough) or color 
(standard or one you define) would identify the inset. For more 
information, search for conditional text in FrameMaker Help. After 
editing, you can turn off conditional text indicators in Special  
Conditional Text  Show/Hide  uncheck Show Indicators. Marking the 
content this way doesn't affect the text flow.


I will try the conditional text approach and see how well it does.
FWIW, at first blush, it seems like too much work, but ... no harm
trying it!

You're not missing anything. To identify an inset, you can double click 
it and get the information from the dialog box that appears.


Yes - that is what I do today. It is just too clumsy though! The dialog
box is never long enough, more clicks than necessary, etc. :(

Both of your requests are great ideas to suggest to the FrameMaker 
enhancement request link at Adobe.com.


Is there a URL or e-mail address for enhancement requests to Adobe?

It would be terrific if hovering 
the cursor over a text inset would display the source information, like 
a tool tip. It would be a good idea to suggest that it can be turned off 
as a user preference.


Exactly!

Z
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Re: Any way to highlight file imports when by reference?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Oleg.

Oleg A. Paraschenko wrote:

Hi!

On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:54:00 -0700
Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...

1. When I am working on a particular FM file with these file imports,
I'd like to highlight them (like with a gray background or something
like that) during my editing session - NOT for printing in the final
document, so that I know where the inserts start and stop, etc. Is
there any way to do this?


We also had the same need, and I wrote a set of FrameScripts to higlight
and unhighlight insets. Unfortunately, I think I can't share them.
However, being aware that it is possible, you can write your own scripts.


Ah! A good point - I had not even considered that as a solution. This
may be the justification for me to go ahead and finally buy FrameScript.

Thanks for the input and recommendation.

Z

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Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Good info!

But be aware that this link is for Acrobat Pro 8.0 ... not Acrobat Reader 8.0
(like the original requester asked).

Z

Art Campbell wrote:

Press release on the Adobe site dated yesterday 11/02 says immediate
availability.
Eval version is available at:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatpro/tryout.html

Art

On 11/3/06, Gillian Flato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone know when this is being released? Adobe is advertising it on
their website as coming soon.


Thank you,

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Re: PDF to framemaker

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Kenneth C. Benson wrote:

PDF is mostly a one-way street. It's an end product. The text in a PDF is
set line by line and page by page. Any method of converting PDF back to
formatted text and graphics is going to involve a good deal of work and
judgment. PDFs are complex enough and generated from enough different source
applications that I can't imagine a tool that could do this for you with any
degree of reliability.


What I use, when forced to, is convert the PDF back to MS Word
(using PDF Converter Professional from Nuance) and then output
it in RTF and back into FrameMaker.

This is not perfect, since it needs cleanup after the final import
into FrameMaker, but it does the trick on the rare occasions when
the need arises. With surprisingly clean results, and much less
time than re-entering all the typing again.

But, I would not want to automate this process - the results would
be terrible without the final edits in FrameMaker after the RTF is
brought in. In other words, it is not something that allows me to go
back and forth on a daily basis!

Z
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Re: PDF to framemaker

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Steve.

Steve Rickaby wrote:

Same company does lots of other PDF-somethingelse converters, but sadly not 
for FrameMaker... unsurprisingly. However, you might be able to use one of their 
converters as a stepping stone, but I don't know whether it would give any 
advantage over a save to RTF from Acrobat.


One advantage ... some of the better ones (like the one I mentioned from
Nuance called PDF Convertor Pro) do a pretty decent job of converting and
recognizing tables and bulleted lists in the PDF and putting these directly
into the resulting Word document.

This makes the job a bit easier when reading the RTF output from Word (into
the final FrameMaker destination).

Not perfect, but workable.

Z
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Re: Dual Monitor(s) ??s

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Richard

Richard Doll wrote:

As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My ??s
follow:

Replacing 4-yr. old (now too slow) Dell 360 Precision WrkStation with:
NewSys: WinXP Pro - Dell 490 PrecisionWorkStation - 2G Mem - 80Gig Hard
Drv - Dual Monitor IntFace/Contrlr
Apps: FMkr 7.2 - PShop - Illustrtr - AcrobtPro 5.05 w/Dstlr - MSWrd -
VisualBasic - ColourChameleon


2GB is a good choice of main memory ... really helps to accelerate all
apps, including FrameMaker.


Try'd 24 Wide Screen on this sys; but, aspect of wide-screen only stretches
display to fill monitor area. Such that 8.5x11-in page at 100% displays at
10.25x11 . . . like its quite chubby. Type and graphics also display
pixelized/distorted. Can change aspect to normal, but then, margins are
completely dead and type still pixcelized.


Hmmm ... I do not experience this above problem. Do you have the properties
of the display adapter set correctly? I use a 24 Dell monitor (previous gen
to the 2407 called a 2405) on my Dell laptop at a resolution of 1920 x 1200
and everything works very well indeed!


So, returning 2407 monitor for two regular (aspect) screens.

Question(s) is . . . How to direct certain apps to display on which screen
and (FMkr) how to have (para/table/structure/etc). designer drop-downs to
appear on screen2 next to the screen1 that would display the main/page
window.
And . . . should I care how the mouse knows that the right boundary of
screen #1 is really the left edge of screen #2 and will flow across? Or,
will I also need multi-mices? 8^)


You can set Windows up to handle sliding the mouse from screen to screen.
Plus, it can either slide off the left edge or the right, depending on
the position of the screen in the setup (use display properties to position
the two monitors.

Regards,

Z
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Re: Code Samples: Tables or Graphic Frame?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, David, et. al.

David Taylor wrote:

they are in the text flow with a custom paragraph format.


This is how I do it. In a fixed-width font (Courier) for the text
to line up.

I use two paragraph formats ... one for the lines of the code and
one for the last line (for the extra space to the next paragraph).

Sidebar: here is where conditional paragraph spacing control would
be awesome! If the spacing could be set like if the next paragraph
format is CODE, then use a spacing of 0, else use a spacing of 10.

Z


At 11:29 AM 2/6/2007, Neil Tubb wrote:

Hi all,
Just wondering how everyone else handles code samples.

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Re: Frame's future

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Rick.

Rick Quatro wrote:
FrameScript's developer will not do this because it removes an incentive 
for people to purchase FrameScript. Hundreds of scripts would be 
distributed with no renumeration for FrameScript's developer. 


Unless Adobe paid some them small royalty portion of the sales cost
for each run-time shipped with FrameMaker.

This *could* add up in a hurry, :) even when compared to the $149
per license copy for the developer version.

 FrameScript is a bargain at $149. Even the simplest scripts provide a
 quick payback in time savings. Any FrameMaker environment can benefit
 from some form of automation.

I don't know how many FrameScript licenses have been sold vs. the
number of FrameMaker licenses, of course ...

But, surely, it might be interesting for them to consider this! :)

Z
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Re: Frame's future

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Paul, et. al.

Paul Findon wrote:

On 25 Feb 2007, at 22:02, Dov Isaacs wrote:


How was that statement fear, uncertainty, and doubt?

I was stating FACT based on having been involved
personally in or as a direct witness to what was going
on at the time.


Apple is one of Adobe's competitors. Competitors sometimes engage in the 
art of FUD. Company employees don't normally post information of this 
kind on public mailing lists. I don't know about everyone else, but it 
strikes me as somewhat unusual.


Well ... I have never seen Dov engage in FUD. He admits to lack of info
when he does not know a particular answer, or tells us clearly when he
cannot comment on some topic.

So, at least, in this one Adobe employee case, it is not any unusual
thing. :)

Z


- Dov



-Original Message-
From: Paul Findon
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 1:25 PM
To: Wayne Brissette; Free Framers List; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Frame's future

On 21 Feb 2007, at 19:30, Dov Isaacs wrote:


What is true is that Adobe was certainly NOT going to
drop support for Windows in favour of a MacOS X-only
solution or start developing products exclusively for
MacOS X, a strategy that apparently at least some within
Apple would have liked Adobe to pursue.


Can we file this under FUD?

Paul
http://www.fm4osx.org/


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Re: Frame's future @ Mac/UNIX

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Folks,

Worrying about whether the latest versions of FrameMaker are, or are
not, available for a particular OS and platform is not productive at
all. Whether we know and/or agree/disagree with Adobe's reasons for
dropping the Mac version is not anything we can or should waste any
[more] time on.

Yes, grass-roots efforts to make changes sometimes work, but this one
(i.e., trying to get Adobe to provide recent versions of FrameMaker
on a Mac) has failed multiple times. Let's move on and get over it.

FWIW, I have been using FrameMaker since 1988 - off and on - on old
Sun 3's running SunOS, through the latest version running on my laptop
on Windows XP. Including a brief stint on a Mac, although not for any
serious large document.

The point is that it is the application that is important - not the OS.
The OS and platform are merely tools to get the job done (and ultimately
so is the application too!).

I use whatever *application* makes the task at hand easier. So, I have
three different computers in my office - two Windows systems and a
Sun Solaris system (no Mac, because I have no particular need for an
application that is specific to that platform/OS only). Depending on
what I need to do, I reach for a different keyboard and mouse and focus
on the task.

Yes, if, for some strange reason, someday, Adobe drops FrameMaker as
a product, I will also change and will find another solution and make
it work for what I need done - warts and all - because that is life.

Regards,

Z

Combs, Richard wrote:

Steve Rickaby wrote:
 
However, FrameMaker has a much older code base, so the effort 
to migrate it to XCode would be proportionately greater. For 
all I know, some parts of FrameMaker might be coded in 
Assembler for speed. If this is the case, moving such code to 
a multi-platform production base such as XCode would be all 
the more complex, and might involve a major re-coding effort. 
All this ups cost and reduces margins.


Give it up, Steve. You're using logic and reason, and the True Believers
aren't swayed by those. In fact, references to cost and margins are
downright offensive to the Keepers of the Dogma. Hang the cost -- Adobe
shouldn't betray the faith! 


I expect that the more extreme fundamentalist Apple-ists will threaten
to behead you any time now for your apostasy. You're the Salman Rushdie
of the Macintosh! ;-) 


Richard


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Re: Frame's future @ Mac/UNIX

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Oops, sorry, Richard. my response was not aimed at your earlier
response. I just did a reply-all and should have trimmed out your
words.

Z

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

Folks,

Worrying about whether the latest versions of FrameMaker are, or are
not, available for a particular OS and platform is not productive at
all. Whether we know and/or agree/disagree with Adobe's reasons for
dropping the Mac version is not anything we can or should waste any
[more] time on.

Yes, grass-roots efforts to make changes sometimes work, but this one
(i.e., trying to get Adobe to provide recent versions of FrameMaker
on a Mac) has failed multiple times. Let's move on and get over it.


[rest deleted for brevity]


Combs, Richard wrote:

Steve Rickaby wrote:


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Re: Strange PDF Problem

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Steve Rickaby wrote:
  No, because I don't use 'Save as PDF'. Isn't the general view that it's broken and therefore deprecated? Or has it 
been fixed in 7.2?


Hmmm ... I use Save As PDF successfully in FM 7.2 all the time (although
I have not changed the filename - other than using a .PDF extension for the
output).

This Save As PDF then gets processed by Distiller (both versions 7 and 8
from Adobe Acrobat) and there are no problems that I can see.

What difficulties are people experiencing with doing this?

Z
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Re: converting Frame to Word

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, David.

Eason, David wrote:

Brad Simons wrote:

Then, I used a program called PDF to Word which is manufactured by a
company called Very PDF. (http://www.verypdf.com/pdf2word/index.html)


I tried that program one time, and it worked very well. However, it is
one-dimensional. My program of choice is PDF Converter. It not only
converts both ways, pdf to Word and Word, but to Excel also. And the
professional version is way more versatile. The Web site is
http://www.nuance.com/pdfconverter/standard/


I use this one too ... works pretty well. I just received my Pro
version 4 CD and am going to install it and see if it takes care
of the few problems I had with version 2.

Z
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Re: converting Frame to Word

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi,

Gillian Flato wrote:

Will PDF converter work if the originator of the PDF put security on it?


No, that will not work. That is a limitation of almost all those
products, I think (but not sure).

Z
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Re: Watermark WAS: NagGram

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Glenn Voyles wrote:
I tried putting a watermark in a file once, but it messed up my monitor. First there was a loud sizzle and then a small explosion. All for naught. When I opened the file on another computer, the watermark was not there. 


Now I just try to imitate the watermark electronically. Real water doesn't 
work. =Þ


Lending true meaning to the phrase: Floating Point Processor. :)

Z
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Table anchors and extra spaces in sideheads ...

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

When using Sideheads, I found that if the table widths are relatively
small, table titles do not go into the sideheads.

Somebody once sent me a solution, which I find myself unable to do
again in a new document I am working on. This solution, as I recall,
was to create a new paragraph format, which was over the Sidehead
area, but had *negative* before pgf and after pgf settings to
help eliminate the extra spaces to the previous body paragraphs.

So, I redid a new format called, not surprisingly, Table Anchor,
where I place the table. The font for this is set to 2 pts too.

I can get the table to go into the sidehead doing the above, BUT
the extra space does not go away (although it is less than before
due to the font size) - remains the same as if I had left the
space setting at 0!

Any hints as to how to fix this extra space problem?

Z
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Re: Table anchors and extra spaces in sideheads ...

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Stuart

Stuart Rogers wrote:

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

When using Sideheads, I found that if the table widths are relatively
small, table titles do not go into the sideheads.

Somebody once sent me a solution, which I find myself unable to do
again in a new document I am working on. This solution, as I recall,
was to create a new paragraph format, which was over the Sidehead
area, but had *negative* before pgf and after pgf settings to
help eliminate the extra spaces to the previous body paragraphs.

So, I redid a new format called, not surprisingly, Table Anchor,
where I place the table. The font for this is set to 2 pts too.

I can get the table to go into the sidehead doing the above, BUT
the extra space does not go away (although it is less than before
due to the font size) - remains the same as if I had left the
space setting at 0!

Any hints as to how to fix this extra space problem?


I'm a little confused by your references to sideheads, and I'm not sure 
whether you want your table title in the sidehead or not...


Yes, the title goes into the sidehead, but the actual table left
edge is at the left edge of the body column.

WithOUT the anchor in the sidehead, if the total table width is
too small, the title ended up in the body and the table edge ended
up inside the body.

But, with the anchor in the sidehead, this seems to work correctly!
It is just the extra space problem I am left dealing with.

But in any case, the little trick involving negative spacing is this: In 
your dedicated and otherwise empty anchoring pgf, set the font to any 
convenient size (does not have to be 2pt, which can make the pgf hard to 
select) and set the Space Below to a negative number *with an absolute 
value greater than the font size*. In the table designer, set the Space 
Above to the same negative value.


E.g., TableAnchor pgf tag: font 10pt, Space Below -12pt
Table tag: Space Above -12pt


Hmmm ... this is just about what I did, I think. My TableAnchor pgf
font is set to 2pt, pgf space below and pgf above is set to -14 pt,
and it still has more space than when the space above and below is
set to +12pt, and the anchor is on the previous para (rather than
in a special TableAnchor paragraph).

Am I overlooking something?

You may also find it useful to set a unique colour for the TableAnchor 
pgf tag, so that the pilcrow is easy to identify when text symbols are 
visible.


Ah! I do keep my text symbols on, as I find it useful. This color
suggestion will make it easier. Thanks!

Z
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Re: Table anchors and extra spaces in sideheads ...

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

Hi, Stuart

Stuart Rogers wrote:

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

When using Sideheads, I found that if the table widths are relatively
small, table titles do not go into the sideheads.

Somebody once sent me a solution, which I find myself unable to do
again in a new document I am working on. This solution, as I recall,
was to create a new paragraph format, which was over the Sidehead
area, but had *negative* before pgf and after pgf settings to
help eliminate the extra spaces to the previous body paragraphs.

So, I redid a new format called, not surprisingly, Table Anchor,
where I place the table. The font for this is set to 2 pts too.

I can get the table to go into the sidehead doing the above, BUT
the extra space does not go away (although it is less than before
due to the font size) - remains the same as if I had left the
space setting at 0!

Any hints as to how to fix this extra space problem?


I'm a little confused by your references to sideheads, and I'm not 
sure whether you want your table title in the sidehead or not...


Yes, the title goes into the sidehead, but the actual table left
edge is at the left edge of the body column.

WithOUT the anchor in the sidehead, if the total table width is
too small, the title ended up in the body and the table edge ended
up inside the body.

But, with the anchor in the sidehead, this seems to work correctly!
It is just the extra space problem I am left dealing with.

But in any case, the little trick involving negative spacing is this: 
In your dedicated and otherwise empty anchoring pgf, set the font to 
any convenient size (does not have to be 2pt, which can make the pgf 
hard to select) and set the Space Below to a negative number *with an 
absolute value greater than the font size*. In the table designer, set 
the Space Above to the same negative value.


E.g., TableAnchor pgf tag: font 10pt, Space Below -12pt
Table tag: Space Above -12pt


Hmmm ... this is just about what I did, I think. My TableAnchor pgf
font is set to 2pt, pgf space below and pgf above is set to -14 pt,
and it still has more space than when the space above and below is
set to +12pt, and the anchor is on the previous para (rather than
in a special TableAnchor paragraph).

Am I overlooking something?


Ah! I figured out my mistake in this first response!!! I had forgotten
to set the TABLE space above ... not the PGF table space item.

Thanks very much!!!

You may also find it useful to set a unique colour for the TableAnchor 
pgf tag, so that the pilcrow is easy to identify when text symbols are 
visible.


Ah! I do keep my text symbols on, as I find it useful. This color
suggestion will make it easier. Thanks!

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Re: Table anchors and extra spaces in sideheads ...

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
You may also find it useful to set a unique colour for the 
TableAnchor pgf tag, so that the pilcrow is easy to identify when 
text symbols are visible.


Ah! I do keep my text symbols on, as I find it useful. This color
suggestion will make it easier. Thanks!


One more thing. I also set the paragraph alignment to Center, rather
than the left. This makes the text symbol be in the center of the
page for that Anchor. Makes it even easier to see that color symbol
now!

Thanks again,

Z
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Re: Can't print from Frame

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Bill Swallow wrote:

Make sure the printer is config'd to handle the fonts and such. Might
also be good to see if the printer is using the right driver.


Agreed! The print driver has been my usual reason for such problems.

You can get updates from the Xerox web site ...

Z


On 4/2/07, Gillian Flato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Whenever I try to print a document, the printer prints a page with
Offending Stack Error on it and then the printer goes nuts printing
gibberish. If I save to PDF first, and then print the PDF, it's fine, so
I have a work-around that solves the problem but I would like to fix
them problem anyhow. Has anyone ever had any experience with this.

I am printing to a networked printer - a Xerox WorkCenter Pro 45 PS

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Re: [Framers] Mif2Go conversion to Word

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Key for making it work in FrameMaker 12 (and probably FrameMaker 2015 too? but 
I have not tried that version), is the one file that needs to be changed. It is 
described in an older post here or at the website perhaps.

Z

From: Framers [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
Prentice
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 01:46 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Mif2Go conversion to Word

http://mif2go.com

Support for FM12/2015 is, from what I understand, not great. I believe that 
some have successfully been able to get it to work. Check the mif2go Yahoo 
group for details.

If you want to help with the future development of Mif2Go, you can download the 
source from GitHub ..

https://github.com/omsys-dev

Cheers,
...scott

On 1/5/16 1:32 PM, Stamm, David wrote:

2016-01-05-02T21:30Z



Please refresh my memory or dispel my ignorance about how and where I may 
obtain Mif2Go for use with FrameMaker 12 and FrameMaker 2015 Release.  This, to 
convert into Word files.



As I recall, Mif2Go and its close relatives were to have become open source 
after Jeremy died.



Thanks,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer
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Re: [Framers] "Exemplified" - use in technical documentation?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

"Exemplified" implies more than "shown in" ... it also has connotations of 
"this is a better way". 

Unless that was the intention (i.e., emphasizing the "better way"), when 
pointing to a figure or diagram, this is unnecessary and almost a tiny bit 
arrogant.

Consider using a more active voice perhaps: "Figure X.X shows ..."

Z

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-
> bounces+syed.hosain=aeris@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Stephen O'Brien
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 09:51 AM
> To: Frame Users (framers@lists.frameusers.com)
> 
> Subject: [Framers] "Exemplified" - use in technical documentation?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A new technical writer uses < exemplified in Fig. X.X> in captions to 
> describe images in our technical reference documentation for a quality 
> control software.
> 
> I have asked that a simpler synonym be used (shown in Figure X.X).
> 
> I consider that "exemplified" is not a commonly used term (I haven't heard or 
> read the term in years) and is not easily read. The writer does not want to 
> give the term up, considering it equal to "illustrated in".
> 
> What do you think?
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Re: [Framers] "Exemplified" - use in technical documentation?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

> From Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
> 
> I'll chime in to say that in almost every case where people create content, 
> it should be done with the audience in mind. Unless the audience knows 
> "exemplified" it's likely best to stick to ideas other people have suggested.
> 
> Simpler is often better. It's becoming more and more common for people who 
> read content to have a background that may not be "English first". That's a 
> good reason to stick to words they know best. The content we create isn't (or 
> generally *shouldn't*) be a way to show how clever we are with words, but 
> rather how clever we are with making people not even think about the words 
> and instead help them achieve their goals with no obstacles.

Agreed!

This definition: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/exemplified says that the 
difficulty index for "exemplify/exemplified" is higher than other words, and 
"Few English speakers likely know this word."

A synonym: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/example shows a lower difficulty 
index for "example", and "Most English speakers likely know this word."

So, yes, KISS applies.

Z
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Re: [Framers] Win7 versus Win10 with FM2015 as of January 2016

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

FM2015 will run fine on Windows 10. Indeed, I am using the older FM12 on 
Windows 10 without issues either.

My setup is Windows 10 Pro on  3 year old high-end laptop, 64 bit, with tons of 
memory.

Z

On Jan 13, 2016 7:36 AM, kou...@kouroo.info wrote:
Dell delivered a new workstation with Win7 as I had experienced a bad Windows 
OS failure. Fortunately all data is backed up but I need to upgrade to the 
latest FM and Acrobat pro. Booting, they lied as the machine actually is loaded 
with Win10. What to do? Would it be prudent as of January 2016 to "bite the 
bullet" and load FM2015 on Win10, or would it be more prudent to demand that 
Dell provide me with a Win7 CD boot disk before loading FM2015?
>
> Austin Meredith kou...@kouroo.info
> Sent from my iPad

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Re: [Framers] Has anyone received Adobe email "Just Launched: Adobe Tech Comm Product Survey 2015!"?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Yes, I received it ...

Z

Simon BUCH wrote:
> Dear Framers,
> 
> I was looking through my mailbox, when I happened to receive an email 
> entitled "Just Launched: Adobe Tech Comm Product Survey 2015!", from 
> techc...@adobemailers.com at Tue, 12 Jan 2016 02:35:07 +0530. Due to the 
> timezone and IP address of the email thread, I suspect this was sent from 
> India.
> 
> Has anyone received the same product survey?
> Was Adobe meaning to send it?
> 
> Regards
> // Simon BUCH -- M-AIS 

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Search and replace content of a variable

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

I thoroughly endorse the BookVars plugin! It is an excellent tool and
I use it all the time. In fact, I literally updated a few properties
(using BookVars) for a FrameMaker book for creating a new PDF ... a few
minutes before I responded to this e-mail.

Z

Scott Prentice wrote:
> You might also want to take a look at our BookVars plugin. This lets you 
> define groups of variable definitions and import them into books as needed.
> 
>http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php
> 
> ...scott
> 
> Scott Prentice
> Leximation, Inc.
> www.leximation.com
> +1.415.485.1892
> 
> 
> 
> John Sgammato wrote:
>> I am using FrameMaker 7.2, unstructured.
>> Once you make the change to one file, then you can import the changes 
>> to all the rest of the files from File>Import>Formats>Variable 
>> Definitions and import from the one you changed. You can select 
>> multiple files to import to.  
>> To accelerate the work of changing each variable, when the Variable 
>> window is open you can edit all of them in a row just by going down 
>> the list in the open window and clicking Change for each as you 
>> finish, but don't click Done until you are done with all of them. This 
>> is also a good time to add some number or other identifiers to the 
>> names of the variables. For example, I use B-Product for the bold 
>> version of the product name, and T-Admin for the title of the Admin 
>> Guide. While writing, I just hit Ctrl-0 to open the (almost invisible) 
>> Variables list at the bottom of the Window. Then I click the letter or 
>> number for the variable I need. Preceding each variable with a code 
>> letter or number and then a hyphen ensures it appears first in the 
>> alphabetical list, so Ctrl-0 followed by T gets me the Admin Guide 
>> title. Down arrow gets me to the other titles in my list, and 
>> eventually cycles through all variables.  
>> john
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: framers-bounces+jsgammato=imprivata.com at lists.frameusers.com on 
>> behalf of mathieu jacquet
>> Sent: Fri 6/22/2007 9:20 AM
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Search and replace content of a variable
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> each time I use an existing book for a new product, I have to :
>> . open each file in the book,
>> . display the master pages,
>> . double click my right master page document title variable,
>> . change its definition ("NewProduct Integration Guide"),
>> . double click my left master page document title variable,
>> . change its definition,
>> . save.
>>
>> Is there any way to do that faster using the Change and Replace function?
>>
>> Any help appreciated,
>>
>> Mathieu.

OT: My Favorite Software

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Bill Briggs wrote:
> Quick question, what would you do on
> Windows if I asked you to produce the "exact" result
> of 47^349 ?

Use LispWorks. No sweat in Windows. :)

Z

Distiller 8 leaving behind tps and tpdf

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

I noticed this too, although it has obviously been occurring for a while
for me too, since I upgraded it to Acrobat Pro 8 a few months ago. I just
had not focused on it due to lack of time.

So, please let me/us know what you hear back on this. Thanks!

Z

Jing Torralba wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I upgraded to Distiller 8 (via Acrobat Standard 8), and now I always get
> the leftover TPS files, and sometimes TPDF files, after saving Frame 7.2
> files as PDF. I was able to figure out how to turn off the log files in
> Distiller, but not TPS. And this is the first time I've encountered
> TPDF. Any ideas on how to clean up those files automatically? Thanks,
> 
> Jing Torralba

link to HTML doc from PDF

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Yes, as long as the HTML file has a URL, that it can be reached by, on an
accessible host. I use the "Special->Hypertext...->Command" from the menu
and select "goto URL" for this purpose, enter the URL in the "Syntax"
section of the pop-up in FrameMaker.

It works very well. The output PDF has a hyperlink to that URL that is
clickable and reachable with the default browser.

If the HTML is not on a host (with a URL), then I suppose the command
"Open Document" (same menu access) *might* also work as long as the HTML
file is accessible by the reader of the PDF, but, since I have not tried
that, I am not sure of the outcome.

Hope this helps,

Z

Carol Wade wrote:
> Is it possible to add a link to an HTML document from a FrameMaker
> document? My employer wants me to provide a link to the readme file from
> the generated PDF.
> 
> (I'm on FrameMaker 7.2 and have Acrobat 8.)
> 
> Thanks y'all!
> 
> - Carol
> 
> 
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link to HTML doc from PDF

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hmmm ...

What was the exact entry in the "message URL readme.html" in the Syntax
box?

Did you use/try a relative path (i.e., "message URL ./readme4.5.html")
to make sure that it looked in the current directory rather than the
default directory of the browser? If you did do that, then I am not sure
why it did not work.

Z

Carol Wade wrote:
> Thanks Syed & Mike. The document will not be on an accessible server,
> but will be in the same directory with the PDF.
> 
> When I tried what Mike suggested below, and clicked the link in the PDF,
> a browser was opened with the following in the Address (URL) box:
> http://readme4.5.html/
> Obviously, that page was not found.
> 
> Did I miss something?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Feimster [mailto:mike.feimster at acstechnologies.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:03 AM
> To: Carol Wade; framers at frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: link to HTML doc from PDF
> 
> Yes. 
> 
> Insert a hypertext marker with the Command "Go to URL" where you want to
> insert the hyperlink.
> 
> In the Syntax box enter "message URL readme.html" without the quotes.
> This assumes that readme.html is in the same directory as the pdf. If
> it's not, you can put in either a relative path, absolute path, or web
> site url.
> 
> Mike

Frame's future @ Mac/UNIX

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Folks,

Worrying about whether the latest versions of FrameMaker are, or are
not, available for a particular OS and platform is not productive at
all. Whether we know and/or agree/disagree with Adobe's reasons for
dropping the Mac version is not anything we can or should waste any
[more] time on.

Yes, grass-roots efforts to make changes sometimes work, but this one
(i.e., trying to get Adobe to provide recent versions of FrameMaker
on a Mac) has failed multiple times. Let's move on and get over it.

FWIW, I have been using FrameMaker since 1988 - off and on - on old
Sun 3's running SunOS, through the latest version running on my laptop
on Windows XP. Including a brief stint on a Mac, although not for any
serious large document.

The point is that it is the application that is important - not the OS.
The OS and platform are merely tools to get the job done (and ultimately
so is the application too!).

I use whatever *application* makes the task at hand easier. So, I have
three different computers in my office - two Windows systems and a
Sun Solaris system (no Mac, because I have no particular need for an
application that is specific to that platform/OS only). Depending on
what I need to do, I reach for a different keyboard and mouse and focus
on the task.

Yes, if, for some strange reason, someday, Adobe drops FrameMaker as
a product, I will also change and will find another solution and make
it work for what I need done - warts and all - because that is life.

Regards,

Z

Combs, Richard wrote:
> Steve Rickaby wrote:
>  
>> However, FrameMaker has a much older code base, so the effort 
>> to migrate it to XCode would be proportionately greater. For 
>> all I know, some parts of FrameMaker might be coded in 
>> Assembler for speed. If this is the case, moving such code to 
>> a multi-platform production base such as XCode would be all 
>> the more complex, and might involve a major re-coding effort. 
>> All this ups cost and reduces margins.
> 
> Give it up, Steve. You're using logic and reason, and the True Believers
> aren't swayed by those. In fact, references to "cost" and "margins" are
> downright offensive to the Keepers of the Dogma. Hang the cost -- Adobe
> shouldn't "betray the faith"! 
> 
> I expect that the more extreme fundamentalist Apple-ists will threaten
> to behead you any time now for your apostasy. You're the Salman Rushdie
> of the Macintosh! ;-) 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> --
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> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
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Frame's future @ Mac/UNIX

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Oops, sorry, Richard. my response was not aimed at your earlier
response. I just did a reply-all and should have trimmed out your
words.

Z

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> Worrying about whether the latest versions of FrameMaker are, or are
> not, available for a particular OS and platform is not productive at
> all. Whether we know and/or agree/disagree with Adobe's reasons for
> dropping the Mac version is not anything we can or should waste any
> [more] time on.
> 
> Yes, grass-roots efforts to make changes sometimes work, but this one
> (i.e., trying to get Adobe to provide recent versions of FrameMaker
> on a Mac) has failed multiple times. Let's move on and get over it.

[rest deleted for brevity]

> Combs, Richard wrote:
>> Steve Rickaby wrote:

Strange PDF Problem

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Steve Rickaby wrote:
  > No, because I don't use 'Save as PDF'. Isn't the general view that it's 
broken and therefore deprecated? Or has it 
been fixed in 7.2?

Hmmm ... I use "Save As PDF" successfully in FM 7.2 all the time (although
I have not changed the filename - other than using a .PDF extension for the
output).

This "Save As PDF" then gets processed by Distiller (both versions 7 and 8
from Adobe Acrobat) and there are no problems that I can see.

What difficulties are people experiencing with doing this?

Z

converting Frame to Word

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, David.

Eason, David wrote:
> Brad Simons wrote:
>> "Then, I used a program called "PDF to Word" which is manufactured by a
>> company called Very PDF. (http://www.verypdf.com/pdf2word/index.html)"
> 
> I tried that program one time, and it worked very well. However, it is
> one-dimensional. My program of choice is PDF Converter. It not only
> converts both ways, pdf to Word and Word, but to Excel also. And the
> professional version is way more versatile. The Web site is
> http://www.nuance.com/pdfconverter/standard/

I use this one too ... works pretty well. I just received my Pro
version 4 CD and am going to install it and see if it takes care
of the few problems I had with version 2.

Z

converting Frame to Word

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi,

Gillian Flato wrote:
> Will PDF converter work if the originator of the PDF put security on it?

No, that will not work. That is a limitation of almost all those
products, I think (but not sure).

Z

Watermark WAS: NagGram

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Glenn Voyles wrote:
> I tried putting a watermark in a file once, but it messed up my monitor. 
> First there was a loud sizzle and then a small explosion. All for naught. 
> When I opened the file on another computer, the watermark was not there. 
> 
> Now I just try to imitate the watermark electronically. Real water doesn't 
> work. =?

Lending true meaning to the phrase: "Floating Point Processor". :)

Z

Table anchors and extra spaces in sideheads ...

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

When using Sideheads, I found that if the table widths are relatively
small, table titles do not go into the sideheads.

Somebody once sent me a solution, which I find myself unable to do
again in a new document I am working on. This solution, as I recall,
was to create a new paragraph format, which was over the Sidehead
area, but had *negative* "before pgf" and "after pgf" settings to
help eliminate the extra spaces to the previous body paragraphs.

So, I redid a new format called, not surprisingly, "Table Anchor",
where I place the table. The font for this is set to 2 pts too.

I can get the table to go into the sidehead doing the above, BUT
the extra space does not go away (although it is less than before
due to the font size) - remains the same as if I had left the
space setting at 0!

Any hints as to how to fix this extra space problem?

Z

Table anchors and extra spaces in sideheads ...

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Stuart

Stuart Rogers wrote:
> Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
>> When using Sideheads, I found that if the table widths are relatively
>> small, table titles do not go into the sideheads.
>>
>> Somebody once sent me a solution, which I find myself unable to do
>> again in a new document I am working on. This solution, as I recall,
>> was to create a new paragraph format, which was over the Sidehead
>> area, but had *negative* "before pgf" and "after pgf" settings to
>> help eliminate the extra spaces to the previous body paragraphs.
>>
>> So, I redid a new format called, not surprisingly, "Table Anchor",
>> where I place the table. The font for this is set to 2 pts too.
>>
>> I can get the table to go into the sidehead doing the above, BUT
>> the extra space does not go away (although it is less than before
>> due to the font size) - remains the same as if I had left the
>> space setting at 0!
>>
>> Any hints as to how to fix this extra space problem?

> I'm a little confused by your references to sideheads, and I'm not sure 
> whether you want your table title in the sidehead or not...

Yes, the title goes into the sidehead, but the actual table left
edge is at the left edge of the body column.

WithOUT the anchor in the sidehead, if the total table width is
too small, the title ended up in the body and the table edge ended
up inside the body.

But, with the anchor in the sidehead, this seems to work correctly!
It is just the extra space problem I am left dealing with.

> But in any case, the little trick involving negative spacing is this: In 
> your dedicated and otherwise empty anchoring pgf, set the font to any 
> convenient size (does not have to be 2pt, which can make the pgf hard to 
> select) and set the Space Below to a negative number *with an absolute 
> value greater than the font size*. In the table designer, set the Space 
> Above to the same negative value.
> 
> E.g., TableAnchor pgf tag: font 10pt, Space Below -12pt
> Table tag: Space Above -12pt

Hmmm ... this is just about what I did, I think. My TableAnchor pgf
font is set to 2pt, pgf space below and pgf above is set to -14 pt,
and it still has more space than when the space above and below is
set to +12pt, and the anchor is on the previous para (rather than
in a special TableAnchor paragraph).

Am I overlooking something?

> You may also find it useful to set a unique colour for the TableAnchor 
> pgf tag, so that the pilcrow is easy to identify when text symbols are 
> visible.

Ah! I do keep my text symbols on, as I find it useful. This color
suggestion will make it easier. Thanks!

Z

Table anchors and extra spaces in sideheads ...

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
> Hi, Stuart
> 
> Stuart Rogers wrote:
>> Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
>>> When using Sideheads, I found that if the table widths are relatively
>>> small, table titles do not go into the sideheads.
>>>
>>> Somebody once sent me a solution, which I find myself unable to do
>>> again in a new document I am working on. This solution, as I recall,
>>> was to create a new paragraph format, which was over the Sidehead
>>> area, but had *negative* "before pgf" and "after pgf" settings to
>>> help eliminate the extra spaces to the previous body paragraphs.
>>>
>>> So, I redid a new format called, not surprisingly, "Table Anchor",
>>> where I place the table. The font for this is set to 2 pts too.
>>>
>>> I can get the table to go into the sidehead doing the above, BUT
>>> the extra space does not go away (although it is less than before
>>> due to the font size) - remains the same as if I had left the
>>> space setting at 0!
>>>
>>> Any hints as to how to fix this extra space problem?
> 
>> I'm a little confused by your references to sideheads, and I'm not 
>> sure whether you want your table title in the sidehead or not...
> 
> Yes, the title goes into the sidehead, but the actual table left
> edge is at the left edge of the body column.
> 
> WithOUT the anchor in the sidehead, if the total table width is
> too small, the title ended up in the body and the table edge ended
> up inside the body.
> 
> But, with the anchor in the sidehead, this seems to work correctly!
> It is just the extra space problem I am left dealing with.
> 
>> But in any case, the little trick involving negative spacing is this: 
>> In your dedicated and otherwise empty anchoring pgf, set the font to 
>> any convenient size (does not have to be 2pt, which can make the pgf 
>> hard to select) and set the Space Below to a negative number *with an 
>> absolute value greater than the font size*. In the table designer, set 
>> the Space Above to the same negative value.
>>
>> E.g., TableAnchor pgf tag: font 10pt, Space Below -12pt
>> Table tag: Space Above -12pt
> 
> Hmmm ... this is just about what I did, I think. My TableAnchor pgf
> font is set to 2pt, pgf space below and pgf above is set to -14 pt,
> and it still has more space than when the space above and below is
> set to +12pt, and the anchor is on the previous para (rather than
> in a special TableAnchor paragraph).
> 
> Am I overlooking something?

Ah! I figured out my mistake in this first response!!! I had forgotten
to set the TABLE space above ... not the PGF table space item.

Thanks very much!!!

>> You may also find it useful to set a unique colour for the TableAnchor 
>> pgf tag, so that the pilcrow is easy to identify when text symbols are 
>> visible.
> 
> Ah! I do keep my text symbols on, as I find it useful. This color
> suggestion will make it easier. Thanks!

Table anchors and extra spaces in sideheads ...

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
>>> You may also find it useful to set a unique colour for the 
>>> TableAnchor pgf tag, so that the pilcrow is easy to identify when 
>>> text symbols are visible.
>>
>> Ah! I do keep my text symbols on, as I find it useful. This color
>> suggestion will make it easier. Thanks!

One more thing. I also set the paragraph alignment to Center, rather
than the left. This makes the text symbol be in the center of the
page for that Anchor. Makes it even easier to see that color symbol
now!

Thanks again,

Z

Fwd: FrameScript - give a script to a colleague

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Yes, for sure.

Z

Stephen O'Brien wrote:
>> I have FrameScript and want to share a script with a colleague. Does 
>> that person also have to have FrameScript (i.e., buy a 2nd license) on 
>> his computer?

Tool to convert tables to paragraphs?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Pat.

Pat Christenson wrote:
> Does anyone know of a FrameMaker plug-in that will convert tables to 
> paragraphs throughout a book or directory?

Hmmm ... doesn't the built-in menu function "Table->Convert to Paragraphs" in
FrameMaker work for you?

Z

Tool to convert tables to paragraphs?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Pat Christenson wrote:
> You can only do a single table at a time with Table>Convert to 
> Paragraphs. I'm looking for something to work throughout a book or 
> directory.

Ah! I misread your question. Sorry about that ...

Z

> On May 21, 2007, at 9:51 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Pat.
>>
>> Pat Christenson wrote:
>>> Does anyone know of a FrameMaker plug-in that will convert tables to 
>>> paragraphs throughout a book or directory?
>>
>> Hmmm ... doesn't the built-in menu function "Table->Convert to 
>> Paragraphs" in
>> FrameMaker work for you?

FrameMaker Console

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Minimize it is what I do too ... :)

(FrameScript pops it up each time you start FrameMaker, for example.)

Z

Scott Prentice wrote:
> However, plugins may make use of the console, and I believe that it will 
> still open with this setting disabled. I find that the best thing to do 
> is to leave it open. Once it is open, you can minimize it or let it go 
> to the background and it won't pop to the front any more .. as long as 
> you don't keep closing it, it shouldn't be much of a bother.  :)
> 
> ...scott
> 
> 
> Rick Henkel wrote:
>> Flato, Gillian wrote:
>>> Does anyone know how to make it so that the annoying FrameMaker console
>>> doesn't open?
>>
>>
>> On the Preferences dialog box, clear the Show File Translation Errors 
>> check box.
>>
>> Rick
>>
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FrameMaker Console

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Frank.

Frank Elmore wrote:
> 
> You can turn off the FrameScript signon  console messages by unchecking 
> a box on the options screen or changing the value in fscript.ini file.

Oh, it does not bother me. I just minimize it and go on ...

But, thanks for the info anyway! :)

Z

> Frank Elmore
> Project leader for FrameScript
> 
> - Original Message ----- From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain" 
> 
> To: "Scott Prentice" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: FrameMaker Console
> 
> 
>> Minimize it is what I do too ... :)
>>
>> (FrameScript pops it up each time you start FrameMaker, for example.)

radical revamping of techpubs

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Bill Swallow wrote:
 > I don't buy your "few companies" generalization. Perhaps small pre-IPO
 > companies and the like, but I've not met an established company that
 > didn't have a solid tech writing staff in place.

Correct ... and even small, pre-IPO, companies often have competent, 
professional, tech writers. :)

We have 60 employees (10 in SW Engineering, 8 in HW Engineering, 15 in Network 
Operations, 6 in Admin/Finance and the 
rest in Marketing and Sales).

Of the 60 employees, one is a full-time Senior Technical Writer and we also 
occasionally bring in technical writer 
contractors (1 to 3 ... depending on the needs) for crunch projects.

I am not that Sr. Tech Writer, by the way, but I also produce a lot of 
technical material. As one of the founders, 
almost 75-80% of the technical docs - sent to customers - is my work ... our 
Sr. Tech Writer, has approved of my 
technical and general writing skills, fortunately! :)

FWIW, I have *always* believed that quality written material for any company is 
fundamentally important. Otherwise, it 
can be a stamp of incompetence ... if a company can't provide accurate, 
well-written, clear, documentation, as well as a 
timely process of correcting errors that *do* creep in, how can customers rely 
on them to provide quality products and 
services?

Regards,

Z

FrameMaker enhancement suggestion: book-level custom variables

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Steve.

Steve Rickaby wrote:
> Subject line says it all, really.
> 
> I do know about MIF fragments, but IMHO we should not have to mess about like 
> that.

I use the Leximation BookVars plug-in for this purpose with excellent results! I
endorse this completely.

Check out www.leximation.com for more info.

Z

Sorry for the bandwidth, but is the Frameusers site functioning?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Tammy ... may I suggest you get a @Gmail.com e-mail account? I can
send you a Gmail invite for this purpose, to your current active
e-mail address.

Once you get that account going - very easy, by the way - and get the
Framers list issues worked out and pointing to it), you can then
*automatically* forward e-mails sent to that address to any other
address as you change gigs (so then you do not need to read multiple
e-mail sites).

Then, it is all under your control for the future. Let me know if you
want me to send you the gmail invite.

I'll make this a public response, since I think this is a workable
solution for others too ... (although I'd go nuts trying to field
Gmail invites)! :)

Regards,

Z

Van Boening, Tammy wrote:
> All,
> 
> I have been trying in vain to unsubscribe from the framers list and
> tech-whirl list for several days now as I am leaving this gig and will
> soon have a new email address; however, no luck. No matter what I do,
> whenever I log in, I either get timed out or when I try to unsubscribe,
> an access denied message. I even tried sending an email direct to the
> listadmin email address that is listed on the first page of the website,
> but I get immediate bounce back from that as undeliverable. Has anyone
> else been experiencing these or similar problems with the site?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> TVB
> 
> Tammy L. Van Boening
> Senior Technical Writer
> Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
> Property and Casualty Division
> 303-729-7733
> tammy.vanboening at fiserv.com
> ***
> Keep smiling, at least until you get your own way.

Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Richard

Combs, Richard wrote:
> David Levy wrote: 
>> I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in 
>> Word, I build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program 
>> to convert it to Word.  The results are better than FM's 
>> "Save as" feature. 
> 
>  OCR??? The PDF contains *real words*, not an *image* of the
> words! Why on earth would you want to treat it as an image? 

Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true "image" OCR
program. I suspect a mis-speak! :)

While I have no reason to transfer from FrameMaker to Word, I do use
a program from Nuance (formerly Scansoft) called "PDF Converter 3"
to bring in standard PDF files into Word. This works directly on the
PDF file, not an image.

And, PDF Converter 3 does provide pretty darn good results for this
conversion process.

Z

Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, Richard

Combs, Richard wrote:
> Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: 
>  
>> Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true "image" 
>> OCR program. I suspect a mis-speak! :)
> 
> Perhaps you're right. But in fact, there's no _other_ kind of OCR
> program. OCR stands for "optical character recognition." It's the
> process of converting an _image_ or _representation_ of a character into
> the ASCII (or ANSI or UTF...) character that it appears to represent. 

Yes, sorry, that is what I meant too. Meaning he is *not* doing a true
OCR from an image - just converting from the PDF file with some software
(like I do).

At least, I hope that is the case! Going to Word from a scanned-in
image (printed from the PDF) would be quite an unusual way to do this!

> Pedants 'r Us :-)

:) :)

Z

Monitor issue

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

The Dell 20" LCD is a very good value! I use it (at home) and one
of their 24" wide-screen LCD at work. The 20" has 1600x1200 native
resolution, and the 24" has 1920x1200 native.

Excellent results, and there are occasionally sales at Dell on the
LCD monitors. The 20" is often on sale (go to the Small Business
section - the prices are always best there).

Although absolute color accuracy is the reason I also have a Sony
20" GDM-F20 on a third system for images, there is no reason to use
a CRT anymore, imho, for general purpose text and image editing.

If you want greater color accuracy, then you can calibrate the LCD
using a Spyder color calibrator.

Z

George Newfield wrote:
> Hi Framers,
> 
> After four years of operation, my Dell monitor, Model D1626HT just went 
> south. So if I may, I'd like to solicit your thoughts on a high quality 
> 20" monitor that won't bankrupt my resources. Are today's LCD monitors 
> in the $350-$500 price range up to the task, or does one have to spend 
> over $1000 for equivalent results?
> 
> I do a great deal of work in Photoshop and of course FrameMaker, using 
> WinXP Pro, SP2.
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> George
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POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, John.

John Wilcox wrote:
> This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please reply
> off-list, and I'll summarize the results next week. Thanks for your time!
> 
> A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
> B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.

I created specific items in the Character Catalog and apply them
as needed. The Control-B and Control-I approach is too easy to
accidentally remove.

Zaeem

Frame vs. Quicksilver - Please help me save Frame

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Hi, all.

A related sidebar: Ever use FrameMaker and put the "Interleaf" in a
document and then spell-check it in FrameMaker?

Try it! :)

Z

Karen L. Zorn wrote:
> Cost. Last I heard Interleaf was thousands per seat, while FM is much, much
> less.
> 
> Karen L. Zorn
> Zorn Technologies, Inc.
> Mesa, AZ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
> Of Sims, Joseph
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Frame vs. Quicksilver - Please help me save Frame
> 
> 
> The company I work for uses Frame, Interleaf and Word in three separate
> offices. (PC version) Management has requested that we create a uniform
> style for documentation starting now. They're expecting us to share content
> and presumably document templates. In my opinion, all of us should use
> Frame, but the Interleaf users have dug in their heels. It's become a
> non-constructive us vs. them conflict. As a result, I need to come up with a
> list of business reasons why Interleaf is not the correct choice for the
> company. 
>  
> I know of several from prior discussions on the list, but need more.
>  
> 1. IL to PDF conversions can be less straightforward than Frame to PDF
> conversions. Does IL generate bookmarks? 2. Translation memory tools don't
> support IL, dramatically increasing costs.
> 
> 3. Interleaf/Quicksilver/Broadvision corp. is far more likely to end up in
> Chapter 11 than Adobe. 
> 4. Frame is more widely used and offers greater compatibility with the rest
> of the publishing world. 
>  
> Does anyone have any additional words of wisdom? Particularly ones that can
> have costs assigned to them?
>  
> Thanks, 
> Joe
>  
> D. Joseph Sims
> Technical Documentation
> The Gleason Works
> 1000 University Ave.
> Rochester, NY 14692-2970