What do you use for PDF Generation?
Good grief - that google search for "Documents and Settings\ filetype:pdf" has
14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop Word doing that when you
print direct to Distiller?
Cheers, Rebecca
>>> Shlomo Perets 05/28/06 10:56 PM >>>
Dov Isaacs wrote:
>... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
>PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate
>to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
>Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
>does make its way into the "Description" part of
>"Document Properties" !
An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation (=
turn off "Convert Document Information" in PDFMaker).
I disagree with this recommendation; more in this month's Hmmm...,
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html
("Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable it?")
Shlomo Perets
MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
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Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Good grief - that google search for Documents and Settings\ filetype:pdf has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller? Cheers, Rebecca Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/06 10:56 PM Dov Isaacs wrote: ... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document does make its way into the Description part of Document Properties ! An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation (= turn off Convert Document Information in PDFMaker). I disagree with this recommendation; more in this month's Hmmm..., http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html (Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable it?) Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesyn.co.nz Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What do you use for PDF Generation?
That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was specified. The search returns all pages that include the word Document or the word Settings, not just the ones that have inappropriate metadata strings. Use the search specification Documents and Settings +pdf for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000 documents that deal with some aspect of computer security! My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:03 AM To: Framers@FrameUsers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? Good grief - that google search for Documents and Settings\ filetype:pdf has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller? Cheers, Rebecca Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/06 10:56 PM Dov Isaacs wrote: ... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document does make its way into the Description part of Document Properties ! An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation (= turn off Convert Document Information in PDFMaker). I disagree with this recommendation; more in this month's Hmmm..., http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html (Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable it?) Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hi, Fred. Ouch! This is exactly the reason (information inside files) that I started this set of questions in the first place! We wanted to avoid a problem with inadvertent hidden content in a Word or Excel file that somebody here sent out of the company. I was hoping that PDF would prevent it, but learned that I needed to do something extra to prevent it! At least this info is automatically not present in the PDF if I disable the item as suggested. In Word, we not have such controls, as far as I know, and asking users to all remember to change the properties, etc., is not going to work. Too easy to forget! So, sorry, Shlomo, I'd much rather live without the feature than have such problems occur! :) Z Ridder, Fred wrote: That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was specified. The search returns all pages that include the word Document or the word Settings, not just the ones that have inappropriate metadata strings. Use the search specification Documents and Settings +pdf for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000 documents that deal with some aspect of computer security! My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rebecca officer Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:03 AM To: Framers@FrameUsers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? Good grief - that google search for Documents and Settings\ filetype:pdf has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller? Cheers, Rebecca Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/06 10:56 PM Dov Isaacs wrote: ... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document does make its way into the Description part of Document Properties ! An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation (= turn off Convert Document Information in PDFMaker). I disagree with this recommendation; more in this month's Hmmm..., http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html (Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable it?) Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- | Syed Zaeem HosainSenior Vice President | | Chief Technical Officer | | | | Aeris.nettel: (408) 557-1905 | | 1245 South Winchester Blvd. fax: (408) 557-1925 | | San Jose, CA 95128-3908. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
What do you use for PDF Generation?
Dov Isaacs wrote:
>... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
>PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate
>to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
>Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
>does make its way into the "Description" part of
>"Document Properties" !
An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation (=
turn off "Convert Document Information" in PDFMaker).
I disagree with this recommendation; more in this month's Hmmm...,
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html
("Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable it?")
Shlomo Perets
MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
What do you use for PDF Generation?
That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was
specified. The search returns all pages that include the word
"Document" or the word "Settings", not just the ones that have
inappropriate metadata strings.
Use the search specification
"Documents and Settings" +pdf
for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a
hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included
a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not
the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search
returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000
documents that deal with some aspect of computer security!
My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of rebecca officer
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:03 AM
To: Framers at FrameUsers.com; shlomo2 at microtype.com
Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Good grief - that google search for "Documents and Settings\
filetype:pdf" has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop
Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller?
Cheers, Rebecca
>>> Shlomo Perets 05/28/06 10:56 PM >>>
Dov Isaacs wrote:
>... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
>PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate
>to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
>Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
>does make its way into the "Description" part of
>"Document Properties" !
An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation
(=
turn off "Convert Document Information" in PDFMaker).
I disagree with this recommendation; more in this month's Hmmm...,
http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html
("Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable
it?")
Shlomo Perets
MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
What do you use for PDF Generation?
Fred, You wrote (in response to Rebecca Officer's message): >That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was >specified. The search returns all pages that include the word >"Document" or the word "Settings", not just the ones that have >inappropriate metadata strings. > >Use the search specification > "Documents and Settings" +pdf >for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a >hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included >a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not >the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search >returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000 >documents that deal with some aspect of computer security! Thanks for your clarification! I updated the search phrase so that it yields less results. I actually did not pay attention to the specific number of millions... When I see so many hits I assume that many thousands (at least) of files serve well to demonstrate the point, after irrelevant hits are ignored. In any case, this is just one possible search string out of several. Additional variations include: C:\Docume~ C:\Program Files\ Printing C:\ Print Preview - C:\ (with different drives) etc. These variations depend on the specific PDF creation route used (authoring tools, drivers, settings), and show that file path may be added to PDFs even when no metadata is added explicitly (and even when simply printing to .ps). My recommendation is therefore to always check/adjust the document properties of the PDF file before distributing it, regardless of how the PDF is created. Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hi, Fred.
Ouch! This is exactly the reason (information inside files) that I
started this set of questions in the first place! We wanted to avoid
a problem with inadvertent hidden content in a Word or Excel file
that somebody here sent out of the company.
I was hoping that PDF would prevent it, but learned that I needed to
do something extra to prevent it! At least this info is automatically
not present in the PDF if I disable the item as suggested. In Word,
we not have such controls, as far as I know, and asking users to all
remember to change the properties, etc., is not going to work. Too
easy to forget!
So, sorry, Shlomo, I'd much rather live without the "feature" than
have such problems occur! :)
Z
Ridder, Fred wrote:
> That hit count is deceptive because of the way the search was
> specified. The search returns all pages that include the word
> "Document" or the word "Settings", not just the ones that have
> inappropriate metadata strings.
>
> Use the search specification
> "Documents and Settings" +pdf
> for a more relevant search result. (A quick visual scan of a
> hundred or so result listings showed that all of them included
> a pathname that included the user's login name, which was not
> the case with the broader search.) But even this narrower search
> returns more than 2 million hits, including more than 200,000
> documents that deal with some aspect of computer security!
>
> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
> Intel
> Parsippany, NJ
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
> Behalf Of rebecca officer
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:03 AM
> To: Framers at FrameUsers.com; shlomo2 at microtype.com
> Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
>
> Good grief - that google search for "Documents and Settings\
> filetype:pdf" has 14 million hits!! Is there anything you can do to stop
> Word doing that when you print direct to Distiller?
>
> Cheers, Rebecca
>
>>>> Shlomo Perets 05/28/06 10:56 PM >>>
> Dov Isaacs wrote:
>
>> ... By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with
>> PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate
>> to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of
>> Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document
>> does make its way into the "Description" part of
>> "Document Properties" !
>
>
> An Adobe Technical Note I saw a while ago had a similar recommendation
> (=
> turn off "Convert Document Information" in PDFMaker).
>
> I disagree with this recommendation; more in this month's Hmmm...,
> http://www.microtype.com/Hmmm.html
> ("Why bother learning how to use a feature, if you can simply disable
> it?")
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
>
> MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
> Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
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Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:01:28 -0700 From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What do you use for PDF generation? To: framers framers@frameusers.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, all. Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent outside the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include text e-mail! This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the Internet at all times. Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create documents and files in Word or Excel for example. Hence, my questions: 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and send back the form! 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar policy? Thanks! Z Z, Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does all of what many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version of Frame do you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution included Distiller? Cheers, Ron ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Ron Teplitz wrote: Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does all of what many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version of Frame do you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution included Distiller? Cheers, Ron Oh, I should have been clearer. I definitely use Acrobat Pro 7 for my PDF creation! With output from FrameMaker and all other programs too. :) My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF creation ability for *all* the employees in our company, and the price of Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very prohibitive. These folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... most are simply using Word and Excel for their daily stuff. Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or PDF995 as the preferred solution for this new policy ... those seem to have garnered the most votes too, but I do plan on quickly looking at some of the open-source freebie stuff as well. What I have tried and did NOT like: PDF-Xchange. This came as a freebie demo with some app that I got, and it simply crashes too often on my system. Not good enough. Another one that was still a tad bit too expensive (as an Enterprise total cost) was PDF Convertor 3 from Nuance. I liked it (I use my copy of the PDF to Word convertor on occasion), but the total cost is a bit high. This is why PDF995 is leading the pack right now ... Thanks! Z Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:01:28 -0700 From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What do you use for PDF generation? To: framers framers@frameusers.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, all. Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent outside the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include text e-mail! This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the Internet at all times. Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create documents and files in Word or Excel for example. Hence, my questions: 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and send back the form! 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar policy? Thanks! Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Z, One other possibility is to have folks import their Word docs into OpenOffice, and then Save as PDF. OO does a very nice job. I don't have experience converting Excel to PDF in OO, but that should be OK too. Hope this helps, Mike McCallister On 5/23/06, Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF creation ability for *all* the employees in our company, and the price of Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very prohibitive. These folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... most are simply using Word and Excel for their daily stuff. Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or PDF995 as the preferred solution for this new policy ... those seem to have garnered the most votes too, but I do plan on quickly looking at some of the open-source freebie stuff as well. Hence, my questions: 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and send back the form! 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar policy? Thanks! Z ___ -- Mike McCallister Technical Writing Consultant, Compuware Author, SUSE Linux 10 Unleashed ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo $9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these PDF files escape the environment in which they were created and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign, or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font definitions with improper names and encodings that cause chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files. Just because those other employees are not publishing vast tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools. Good points, yes! We have some people who create print-quality documents for which we need to be sure that the PDF's are very high quality. For these folks, we have Acrobat Pro installed on their systems - the right way to go for sure! It is the rest of the folks, who send out docs and files outside our company for reading or review and other purposes, that we want to have in PDF format. The purpose is to avoid having original documents out there. The policy was created because we got burned by properties information in a Word doc recently - an older doc was used to create a new one and ... oops! None of the PDF's from these other employees is likely to be used in situations where they might cause problems like you mention. So, I am fairly confident (but keeping my fingers crossed till I test some more) that we should be okay with something like PDF995. But, I will definitely try things out in detail before proceeding ... Of course, if Adobe Elements were a LOT lower in price for multiple copies, or the server version of Acrobat was not so crazily over- priced for our simple needs (less than 50 employees total!), we would not be looking at cheaper alternatives. Hint, hint! :) Thanks for the input regardless! It is appreciated. Z -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:09 AM To: Ron Teplitz Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? Ron Teplitz wrote: Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does all of what many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version of Frame do you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution included Distiller? Cheers, Ron Oh, I should have been clearer. I definitely use Acrobat Pro 7 for my PDF creation! With output from FrameMaker and all other programs too. :) My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF creation ability for *all* the employees in our company, and the price of Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very prohibitive. These folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... most are simply using Word and Excel for their daily stuff. Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or PDF995 as the preferred solution for this new policy ... those seem to have garnered the most votes too, but I do plan on quickly looking at some of the open-source freebie stuff as well. What I have tried and did NOT like: PDF-Xchange. This came as a freebie demo with some app that I got, and it simply crashes too often on my system. Not good enough. Another one that was still a tad bit too expensive (as an Enterprise total cost) was PDF Convertor 3 from Nuance. I liked it (I use my copy of the PDF to Word convertor on occasion), but the total cost is a bit high. This is why PDF995 is leading the pack right now ... Thanks! Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hint, hint ... I am just a dumb engineer here at Adobe. I don't set the prices or have any influence over those issues. By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document does make its way into the Description part of Document Properties ! - Dov -Original Message- From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:36 PM To: Dov Isaacs Cc: Ron Teplitz; Framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo $9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these PDF files escape the environment in which they were created and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign, or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font definitions with improper names and encodings that cause chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files. Just because those other employees are not publishing vast tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools. Good points, yes! We have some people who create print-quality documents for which we need to be sure that the PDF's are very high quality. For these folks, we have Acrobat Pro installed on their systems - the right way to go for sure! It is the rest of the folks, who send out docs and files outside our company for reading or review and other purposes, that we want to have in PDF format. The purpose is to avoid having original documents out there. The policy was created because we got burned by properties information in a Word doc recently - an older doc was used to create a new one and ... oops! None of the PDF's from these other employees is likely to be used in situations where they might cause problems like you mention. So, I am fairly confident (but keeping my fingers crossed till I test some more) that we should be okay with something like PDF995. But, I will definitely try things out in detail before proceeding ... Of course, if Adobe Elements were a LOT lower in price for multiple copies, or the server version of Acrobat was not so crazily over- priced for our simple needs (less than 50 employees total!), we would not be looking at cheaper alternatives. Hint, hint! :) Thanks for the input regardless! It is appreciated. Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: Hint, hint ... I am just a dumb engineer here at Adobe. I don't set the prices or have any influence over those issues. Oops, I was not aiming that at you per se! Sorry about that. By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with PDF, be very careful that the properties don't migrate to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document does make its way into the Description part of Document Properties ! Ouch. I did not know this happened. I will check my stuff very carefully then and set it up properly. Is there a way to disable this permanently, like a setting, in Acrobat so that it does not occur as a matter of course? Z -Original Message- From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:36 PM To: Dov Isaacs Cc: Ron Teplitz; Framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo $9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these PDF files escape the environment in which they were created and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign, or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font definitions with improper names and encodings that cause chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files. Just because those other employees are not publishing vast tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools. Good points, yes! We have some people who create print-quality documents for which we need to be sure that the PDF's are very high quality. For these folks, we have Acrobat Pro installed on their systems - the right way to go for sure! It is the rest of the folks, who send out docs and files outside our company for reading or review and other purposes, that we want to have in PDF format. The purpose is to avoid having original documents out there. The policy was created because we got burned by properties information in a Word doc recently - an older doc was used to create a new one and ... oops! None of the PDF's from these other employees is likely to be used in situations where they might cause problems like you mention. So, I am fairly confident (but keeping my fingers crossed till I test some more) that we should be okay with something like PDF995. But, I will definitely try things out in detail before proceeding ... Of course, if Adobe Elements were a LOT lower in price for multiple copies, or the server version of Acrobat was not so crazily over- priced for our simple needs (less than 50 employees total!), we would not be looking at cheaper alternatives. Hint, hint! :) Thanks for the input regardless! It is appreciated. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
What do you use for PDF Generation?
> >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:01:28 -0700 >From: Syed Zaeem Hosain >Subject: What do you use for PDF generation? >To: framers >Message-ID: <4470F148.1010807 at aeris.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Hi, all. > >Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure >I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very >familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. > >We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent "outside" >the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or >FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include >text e-mail! > >This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user >computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the >Internet at all times. > >Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is >overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create >documents and files in Word or Excel for example. > >Hence, my questions: > >1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? > >2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and >send back the form! > >3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar >policy? > >Thanks! > >Z > > Z, Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does all of what many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version of Frame do you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution included Distiller? Cheers, Ron
What do you use for PDF Generation?
Ron Teplitz wrote: > Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat > Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does all of what > many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version of Frame do > you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution included Distiller? > > Cheers, > Ron Oh, I should have been clearer. I definitely use Acrobat Pro 7 for my PDF creation! With output from FrameMaker and all other programs too. :) My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF creation ability for *all* the employees in our company, and the price of Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very prohibitive. These folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... most are simply using Word and Excel for their daily stuff. Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or PDF995 as the "preferred" solution for this new policy ... those seem to have garnered the most "votes" too, but I do plan on quickly looking at some of the open-source freebie stuff as well. What I have tried and did NOT like: PDF-Xchange. This came as a freebie demo with some app that I got, and it simply crashes too often on my system. Not good enough. Another one that was still a tad bit too expensive (as an Enterprise total cost) was PDF Convertor 3 from Nuance. I liked it (I use my copy of the PDF to Word convertor on occasion), but the total cost is a bit high. This is why PDF995 is leading the pack right now ... Thanks! Z >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:01:28 -0700 >> From: Syed Zaeem Hosain >> Subject: What do you use for PDF generation? >> To: framers >> Message-ID: <4470F148.1010807 at aeris.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Hi, all. >> >> Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure >> I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very >> familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. >> >> We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent "outside" >> the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or >> FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include >> text e-mail! >> >> This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user >> computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the >> Internet at all times. >> >> Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is >> overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create >> documents and files in Word or Excel for example. >> >> Hence, my questions: >> >> 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? >> >> 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and >> send back the form! >> >> 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar >> policy? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Z
What do you use for PDF Generation?
Z, One other possibility is to have folks import their Word docs into OpenOffice, and then Save as PDF. OO does a very nice job. I don't have experience converting Excel to PDF in OO, but that should be OK too. Hope this helps, Mike McCallister On 5/23/06, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF creation > ability for *all* the employees in our company, and the price of > Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very prohibitive. These > folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... most are simply using Word > and Excel for their daily stuff. > > Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or PDF995 > as the "preferred" solution for this new policy ... those seem to > have garnered the most "votes" too, but I do plan on quickly looking > at some of the open-source freebie stuff as well. > >> > >> Hence, my questions: > >> > >> 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? > >> > >> 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and > >> send back the form! > >> > >> 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar > >> policy? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Z > > ___ -- Mike McCallister Technical Writing Consultant, Compuware Author, "SUSE Linux 10 Unleashed"
What do you use for PDF Generation?
A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo $9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these PDF files "escape" the environment in which they were created and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign, or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font definitions with improper names and encodings that cause chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files. Just because those other employees are not publishing vast tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools. - Dov > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:09 AM > To: Ron Teplitz > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? > > Ron Teplitz wrote: > > Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat > > Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does > all of what > > many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version > of Frame do > > you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution > included Distiller? > > > > Cheers, > > Ron > > Oh, I should have been clearer. I definitely use Acrobat Pro > 7 for my PDF creation! With output from FrameMaker and all > other programs too. :) > > My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF > creation ability for *all* the employees in our company, and > the price of Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very > prohibitive. These folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... > most are simply using Word and Excel for their daily stuff. > > Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or > PDF995 as the "preferred" solution for this new policy ... > those seem to have garnered the most "votes" too, but I do > plan on quickly looking at some of the open-source freebie > stuff as well. > > What I have tried and did NOT like: PDF-Xchange. This came as > a freebie demo with some app that I got, and it simply > crashes too often on my system. Not good enough. > > Another one that was still a tad bit too expensive (as an > Enterprise total cost) was PDF Convertor 3 from Nuance. I > liked it (I use my copy of the PDF to Word convertor on > occasion), but the total cost is a bit high. > > This is why PDF995 is leading the pack right now ... > > Thanks! > > Z >
What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: > A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo > $9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates > is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these > PDF files "escape" the environment in which they were created > and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF > files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign, > or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font > definitions with improper names and encodings that cause > chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files. > Just because those other employees are not publishing vast > tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools. Good points, yes! We have some people who create "print-quality" documents for which we need to be sure that the PDF's are very high quality. For these folks, we have Acrobat Pro installed on their systems - the "right" way to go for sure! It is the rest of the folks, who send out docs and files outside our company for reading or review and other purposes, that we want to have in PDF format. The purpose is to avoid having "original" documents out there. The policy was created because we got burned by "properties" information in a Word doc recently - an older doc was used to create a new one and ... oops! None of the PDF's from these other employees is likely to be used in situations where they might cause problems like you mention. So, I am fairly confident (but keeping my fingers crossed till I test some more) that we should be okay with something like PDF995. But, I will definitely try things out in detail before proceeding ... Of course, if Adobe Elements were a LOT lower in price for multiple copies, or the server version of Acrobat was not so crazily over- priced for our simple needs (less than 50 employees total!), we would not be looking at cheaper alternatives. Hint, hint! :) Thanks for the input regardless! It is appreciated. Z >> -Original Message- >> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com >> [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com] >> On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain >> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:09 AM >> To: Ron Teplitz >> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? >> >> Ron Teplitz wrote: >>> Every copy of Frame I've seen for a long time included Acrobat >>> Distiller, going back to at least FM 6.0. Distiller does >> all of what >>> many folks need in the way of PDF generation. What version >> of Frame do >>> you have? Have you checked to see if your distribution >> included Distiller? >>> Cheers, >>> Ron >> Oh, I should have been clearer. I definitely use Acrobat Pro >> 7 for my PDF creation! With output from FrameMaker and all >> other programs too. :) >> >> My questions related to the fact that we need to get PDF >> creation ability for *all* the employees in our company, and >> the price of Acrobat Pro (or Standard, too) would be very >> prohibitive. These folks mostly do not use FrameMaker ... >> most are simply using Word and Excel for their daily stuff. >> >> Right now, I am leaning towards either Acrobat Elements or >> PDF995 as the "preferred" solution for this new policy ... >> those seem to have garnered the most "votes" too, but I do >> plan on quickly looking at some of the open-source freebie >> stuff as well. >> >> What I have tried and did NOT like: PDF-Xchange. This came as >> a freebie demo with some app that I got, and it simply >> crashes too often on my system. Not good enough. >> >> Another one that was still a tad bit too expensive (as an >> Enterprise total cost) was PDF Convertor 3 from Nuance. I >> liked it (I use my copy of the PDF to Word convertor on >> occasion), but the total cost is a bit high. >> >> This is why PDF995 is leading the pack right now ... >> >> Thanks! >> >> Z
What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hint, hint ... I am just a dumb engineer here at Adobe. I don't set the prices or have any influence over those issues. By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document does make its way into the "Description" part of "Document Properties" ! - Dov > -Original Message- > From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net] > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:36 PM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Ron Teplitz; Framers at frameusers.com > Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? > > Hi, Dov. > > Dov Isaacs wrote: > > A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo > > $9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates > > is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these > > PDF files "escape" the environment in which they were created > > and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF > > files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign, > > or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font > > definitions with improper names and encodings that cause > > chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files. > > Just because those other employees are not publishing vast > > tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools. > > Good points, yes! > > We have some people who create "print-quality" documents for which > we need to be sure that the PDF's are very high quality. For these > folks, we have Acrobat Pro installed on their systems - the "right" > way to go for sure! > > It is the rest of the folks, who send out docs and files outside > our company for reading or review and other purposes, that we want > to have in PDF format. The purpose is to avoid having "original" > documents out there. The policy was created because we got burned > by "properties" information in a Word doc recently - an older doc > was used to create a new one and ... oops! > > None of the PDF's from these other employees is likely to be used > in situations where they might cause problems like you mention. > So, I am fairly confident (but keeping my fingers crossed till I > test some more) that we should be okay with something like PDF995. > > But, I will definitely try things out in detail before proceeding ... > > Of course, if Adobe Elements were a LOT lower in price for multiple > copies, or the server version of Acrobat was not so crazily over- > priced for our simple needs (less than 50 employees total!), we > would not be looking at cheaper alternatives. Hint, hint! :) > > Thanks for the input regardless! It is appreciated. > > Z >
What do you use for PDF Generation?
Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: > Hint, hint ... I am just a dumb engineer here at Adobe. > I don't set the prices or have any influence over those > issues. Oops, I was not aiming that at you per se! Sorry about that. > By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with > PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate > to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of > Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document > does make its way into the "Description" part of > "Document Properties" ! Ouch. I did not know this happened. I will check my stuff very carefully then and set it up properly. Is there a way to disable this "permanently", like a setting, in Acrobat so that it does not occur as a matter of course? Z >> -Original Message- >> From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:36 PM >> To: Dov Isaacs >> Cc: Ron Teplitz; Framers at frameusers.com >> Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF Generation? >> >> Hi, Dov. >> >> Dov Isaacs wrote: >>> A word of advice. Before you go loading up on el'cheapo >>> $9.95 PDF creation software, make sure that what it generates >>> is really kosher. We quite often see problems when these >>> PDF files "escape" the environment in which they were created >>> and attempts are made to either combine them with other PDF >>> files in Acrobat or to place them in FrameMaker, InDesign, >>> or elsewhere. Problems often manifest themselves as funky font >>> definitions with improper names and encodings that cause >>> chaos when attempts are made to repurpose those PDF files. >>> Just because those other employees are not publishing vast >>> tomes doesn't mean that they should have shoddy tools. >> Good points, yes! >> >> We have some people who create "print-quality" documents for which >> we need to be sure that the PDF's are very high quality. For these >> folks, we have Acrobat Pro installed on their systems - the "right" >> way to go for sure! >> >> It is the rest of the folks, who send out docs and files outside >> our company for reading or review and other purposes, that we want >> to have in PDF format. The purpose is to avoid having "original" >> documents out there. The policy was created because we got burned >> by "properties" information in a Word doc recently - an older doc >> was used to create a new one and ... oops! >> >> None of the PDF's from these other employees is likely to be used >> in situations where they might cause problems like you mention. >> So, I am fairly confident (but keeping my fingers crossed till I >> test some more) that we should be okay with something like PDF995. >> >> But, I will definitely try things out in detail before proceeding ... >> >> Of course, if Adobe Elements were a LOT lower in price for multiple >> copies, or the server version of Acrobat was not so crazily over- >> priced for our simple needs (less than 50 employees total!), we >> would not be looking at cheaper alternatives. Hint, hint! :) >> >> Thanks for the input regardless! It is appreciated.
What do you use for PDF Generation?
Excellent! Thanks much ... I have modified this setting in my system. Regards, Z Dov Isaacs wrote: > Yes, go to PDFMaker's /Change Conversion Settings/ screen and > *uncheck* the > box for /Convert Document Information/! See below > > - Dov > > > By the way, when dealing with Wurd documents, even with > > > PDF, be very careful that the "properties" don't migrate > > > to the PDF file. When you use the PDFMaker facility of > > > Acrobat some of that information in the Wurd document > > > does make its way into the "Description" part of > > > "Document Properties" ! > > > > Ouch. I did not know this happened. I will check my stuff > > very carefully then and set it up properly. Is there a way > > to disable this "permanently", like a setting, in Acrobat so > > that it does not occur as a matter of course?
RE: What do you use for PDF generation?
Hi Z, You wrote: One other product I found while googling is www.pdf995.com! This has a pretty outstanding price for the Enterprise license. Has anybody used their stuff? I have not used the enterprise version, but I used to use the regular version of pdf995, and I loved it! It does a great job of producing PDFs, and, as you say, the price is hard to beat. Chuck ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What do you use for PDF generation?
Setting up a watched folder on a network drive that can be accessed by more than one user is specifically prohibited by the Acrobat EULA. It's not a matter of violating some copyright law, but it is certainly *not*permitted* under the software license. Adobe does have licenses that permit this kind of operation, but those products cost thousands (rather than hundreds) of dollars. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Kimball Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 7:50 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF generation? Hi, Another possibility is to set up a network drive on a server that has Distiller installed on it, and share the watched in-out folders. That way, many people can use one installation of Distiller. I guess it's possible that would violate some copyright law, so I'm only suggesting it based on resolution of that issue. But I have seen it done, and it can work if things are kept in proportion. Bruce Kimball www.zhando.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
What do you use for PDF generation?
Hi, Another possibility is to set up a network drive on a server that has Distiller installed on it, and share the watched in-out folders. That way, many people can use one installation of Distiller. I guess it's possible that would violate some copyright law, so I'm only suggesting it based on resolution of that issue. But I have seen it done, and it can work if things are kept in proportion. Bruce Kimball www.zhando.com
What do you use for PDF generation?
Hi Z, You wrote: "One other product I found while googling is www.pdf995.com! This has a pretty outstanding price for the Enterprise license. Has anybody used their stuff?" I have not used the enterprise version, but I used to use the regular version of pdf995, and I loved it! It does a great job of producing PDFs, and, as you say, the price is hard to beat. Chuck
What do you use for PDF generation?
>From what I understand, my company installs pdf995 on everyone's machine and that is the default pdf maker for the company. (IDD, marketing and a few others use Acrobat Pro.) I have used it at home for simple PDFs and it works great. Never used it at work. Mike -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+mike.feimster=acstechnologies@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+mike.feimster=acstechnologies.com at lists.frameusers.c om] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:50 PM To: Bill Swallow Cc: framers Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF generation? Hi, Bill. Bill Swallow wrote: > If you have enough people who need to create PDFs by corporate > mandate, look into setting up Adove Acrobat Elements. It's a volume > license solution that starts at 100 seats. Your entire company could > be set up to use this. Thanks! You are the second person to refer to this product. I will look into it, particularly since a few of us use Acrobat Pro and the products are probably pretty similar in many regards - makes support easier. One other product I found while googling is www.pdf995.com! This has a pretty outstanding price for the Enterprise license. Has anybody used their stuff? Z > On 5/21/06, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: >> Hi, all. >> >> Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am >> figure I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely >> to be very familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. >> >> We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent "outside" >> the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or >> FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not >> include text e-mail! >> >> This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user >> computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to >> the Internet at all times. >> >> Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is >> overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only >> create documents and files in Word or Excel for example. >> >> Hence, my questions: >> >> 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? >> >> 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields >> and send back the form! >> >> 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar >> policy? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Z >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as techcommdood at gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gm >> ail.com >> >> >> Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > -- | Syed Zaeem HosainSenior Vice President & | | Chief Technical Officer | | | | Aeris.nettel: (408) 557-1905 | | 1245 South Winchester Blvd. fax: (408) 557-1925 | | San Jose, CA 95128-3908. Syed.Hosain at aeris.net | ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as mike.feimster at acstechnologies.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mike.feimster%40acstechn ologies.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
What do you use for PDF generation?
Setting up a watched folder on a network drive that can be accessed by more than one user is specifically prohibited by the Acrobat EULA. It's not a matter of violating "some copyright law", but it is certainly *not*permitted* under the software license. Adobe does have licenses that permit this kind of operation, but those products cost thousands (rather than hundreds) of dollars. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Kimball Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 7:50 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF generation? Hi, Another possibility is to set up a network drive on a server that has Distiller installed on it, and share the watched in-out folders. That way, many people can use one installation of Distiller. I guess it's possible that would violate some copyright law, so I'm only suggesting it based on resolution of that issue. But I have seen it done, and it can work if things are kept in proportion. Bruce Kimball www.zhando.com
What do you use for PDF generation?
Actually I had to use it when Acrobat (5) failed. It handled "non-standard" pages much better. I could highly recommend it, but they aren't paying me any... ;-) . I believe there are some free out there, e.g. these open source: http://www.reportlab.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/ but I have not tried these. Bodvar On 5/22/06, Mike Feimster wrote: > >From what I understand, my company installs pdf995 on everyone's machine and > that is the default pdf maker for the company. (IDD, marketing and a few > others use Acrobat Pro.) > > I have used it at home for simple PDFs and it works great. Never used it at > work. > > Mike > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces+mike.feimster=acstechnologies.com at > lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces+mike.feimster=acstechnologies.com at > lists.frameusers.c > om] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:50 PM > To: Bill Swallow > Cc: framers > Subject: Re: What do you use for PDF generation? > > Hi, Bill. > > Bill Swallow wrote: > > If you have enough people who need to create PDFs by corporate > > mandate, look into setting up Adove Acrobat Elements. It's a volume > > license solution that starts at 100 seats. Your entire company could > > be set up to use this. > > Thanks! You are the second person to refer to this product. I will look into > it, particularly since a few of us use Acrobat Pro and the products are > probably pretty similar in many regards - makes support easier. > > One other product I found while googling is www.pdf995.com! This has a > pretty outstanding price for the Enterprise license. Has anybody used their > stuff? > > Z > > > > > > -- > > | Syed Zaeem HosainSenior Vice President & | > | Chief Technical Officer | > | | > | Aeris.nettel: (408) 557-1905 | > | 1245 South Winchester Blvd. fax: (408) 557-1925 | > | San Jose, CA 95128-3908. Syed.Hosain at aeris.net | > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as > mike.feimster at acstechnologies.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mike.feimster%40acstechn > ologies.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
What do you use for PDF generation?
Hi, all. Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent outside the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include text e-mail! This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the Internet at all times. Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create documents and files in Word or Excel for example. Hence, my questions: 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and send back the form! 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar policy? Thanks! Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What do you use for PDF generation?
Hi, Bill. Bill Swallow wrote: If you have enough people who need to create PDFs by corporate mandate, look into setting up Adove Acrobat Elements. It's a volume license solution that starts at 100 seats. Your entire company could be set up to use this. Thanks! You are the second person to refer to this product. I will look into it, particularly since a few of us use Acrobat Pro and the products are probably pretty similar in many regards - makes support easier. One other product I found while googling is www.pdf995.com! This has a pretty outstanding price for the Enterprise license. Has anybody used their stuff? Z On 5/21/06, Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all. Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent outside the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include text e-mail! This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the Internet at all times. Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create documents and files in Word or Excel for example. Hence, my questions: 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and send back the form! 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar policy? Thanks! Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- | Syed Zaeem HosainSenior Vice President | | Chief Technical Officer | | | | Aeris.nettel: (408) 557-1905 | | 1245 South Winchester Blvd. fax: (408) 557-1925 | | San Jose, CA 95128-3908. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
What do you use for PDF generation?
Hi, all. Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent "outside" the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include text e-mail! This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the Internet at all times. Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create documents and files in Word or Excel for example. Hence, my questions: 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and send back the form! 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar policy? Thanks! Z
What do you use for PDF generation?
If you have enough people who need to create PDFs by corporate mandate, look into setting up Adove Acrobat Elements. It's a volume license solution that starts at 100 seats. Your entire company could be set up to use this. On 5/21/06, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > Hi, all. > > Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure > I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very > familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. > > We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent "outside" > the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or > FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include > text e-mail! > > This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user > computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the > Internet at all times. > > Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is > overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create > documents and files in Word or Excel for example. > > Hence, my questions: > > 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? > > 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and > send back the form! > > 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar > policy? > > Thanks! > > Z > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as techcommdood at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
What do you use for PDF generation?
Hi, Bill. Bill Swallow wrote: > If you have enough people who need to create PDFs by corporate > mandate, look into setting up Adove Acrobat Elements. It's a volume > license solution that starts at 100 seats. Your entire company could > be set up to use this. Thanks! You are the second person to refer to this product. I will look into it, particularly since a few of us use Acrobat Pro and the products are probably pretty similar in many regards - makes support easier. One other product I found while googling is www.pdf995.com! This has a pretty outstanding price for the Enterprise license. Has anybody used their stuff? Z > On 5/21/06, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: >> Hi, all. >> >> Pardon the slightly unrelated to FrameMaker questions, but I am figure >> I am not too far off the mark here, since you all are likely to be very >> familiar with similar polices to what I describe here. >> >> We are standardizing on a new policy that documents/files sent "outside" >> the company must be in PDF form only. No Word or Excel (typically) or >> FrameMaker (of course! :) ) files. And, obviously, it does not include >> text e-mail! >> >> This means that we must install PDF creation software on all our user >> computers ... including laptops and ones that may not be connected to the >> Internet at all times. >> >> Acrobat Professional is too expensive a solution for this, plus it is >> overkill for most of our employees. We have some people who only create >> documents and files in Word or Excel for example. >> >> Hence, my questions: >> >> 1. What are you all using for PDF file creation? >> >> 2. Does it allow forms? I.e., for external folks to fill in fields and >> send back the form! >> >> 3. What would you recommend we do, if you were setting up a similar >> policy? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Z >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as techcommdood at gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/techcommdood%40gmail.com >> >> >> Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > -- | Syed Zaeem HosainSenior Vice President & | | Chief Technical Officer | | | | Aeris.nettel: (408) 557-1905 | | 1245 South Winchester Blvd. fax: (408) 557-1925 | | San Jose, CA 95128-3908. Syed.Hosain at aeris.net |
