Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker?

2009-06-18 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi One of the ways to add callouts to a graphic, is by placing a text frame in the anchored frame and typing the callout in this text frame. However, when this text is translated, you get text expansion, and the text frame may become too small. Apparently, this phenomenon is called overset. For

RE: Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker?

2009-06-18 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hi Yves, We once created a simple script to find text overflows, run the script and it will find the first overflow. May be you can use it to create a more advanced script. // Detect overflow in AFrames // Script detects first overflow and stops there // copyright iDTP; versie 1.0; januari 2003

Re: Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker?

2009-06-18 Thread Art Campbell
Even with William's script as a base... In general, including text in a graphic isn't usually considered a good practice for just the reason you point out -- during translation, the text shrinks or grows, depending on the target languages, and that can require minute adjustment to the graphic. A

FM9: Insert Topicref buttons in the Resource Manager don't seem to work

2009-06-18 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi FrameUsers I'm using FM9.0p237 in Windows XP SP3. I have a DITA map open in the Resource Manager view. I want to add topicrefs to my ditamap, but when I click the Insert Child or Sibling Topicref button, nothing seems to happen. Apparently, I can only do this when I switch to Document View.

FM-9.0p237 - Distiller 8.1.0 colour/font odds

2009-06-18 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear all, Both in FM 8 and in FM 9 I habe set in maker.ini: [Preferences] GetLibraryColorRGBFromCMYK=None Save as PDF in FM-8 - colour cmyk 100/25/25/0 looks ok - font Lucida Sans Semibold (and other bold/semibold) are used Save as PDF in FM-9 - colour cmyk 100/25/25/0 is blueisch, rather than

FM-9.0p237 - Distiller 8.1.0 colour/font odds

2009-06-18 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear all, Both in FM 8 and in FM 9 I habe set in maker.ini: [Preferences] GetLibraryColorRGBFromCMYK=None Save as PDF in FM-8 - colour cmyk 100/25/25/0 looks ok - font Lucida Sans Semibold (and other bold/semibold) are used Save as PDF in FM-9 - colour cmyk 100/25/25/0 is blueisch, rather than

RE: Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker?

2009-06-18 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Yves, If you can't find something, let me know, and I can write you a FrameScript script to do this. Depending on your exact requirements, the cost should be under $150. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-659-8267 Hi One of the ways to add

Re: FM-9.0p237 - Distiller 8.1.0 colour/font odds

2009-06-18 Thread Art Campbell
Klaus, Forgive me if I'm not getting the idea that you're presenting, but your sequence of PDFs and posts seems to confirm the long-standing ideas that: 1.) SaveAs PDF from within FrameMaker uses a different workflow and different options than Printing to a PDF logical printer, and 2.) SaveAs

Re: Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker?

2009-06-18 Thread Chris Despopoulos
I did something similar, where I implemented a tiny language that specified the order in which to try and modify the formatting to get content to fit on a specific page (the last page). I implemented font changes, text frame changes, line space changes, and I forget what else. The language

RE: Is FM8 -- FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-18 Thread Cathy Arthur
Hi, We upgraded because of the free SDL AuthorAssistant, which we are using to improve both consistency and readability in our docs. We are too small for an editor at this time. We are a group of 5, and everyone here likes the new interface. We use both structured and unstructured docs, but not

RE: FM9: Book within a book, generated files not in PDF

2009-06-18 Thread Combs, Richard
Kees van de Wal wrote: A few days ago I've posted a message about the disappearing TOC when printing a book with a childbook. See e-mail below. Someone told me this is an intended functionality of FM. When you print the childbook, you want to see the TOC, but when you print the main-book

RE: Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Alison Craig
Would this method support the border above and below the Note? If we were doing a manual redesign I could look at creating a new style for Notes, but at the moment we're doing what is essentially a one-to-one conversion without any redesign in look and feel. As the manuals deal with medical

RE: Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Alison Craig
Forgive me if I sound ignorant - although being new to FM, the term is applicable - if I make the Notes/Cautions/Warnings into a graphic, wouldn't that imply that all contents of every Note (or Caution or Warning) would have to be identical? Alison From: Gary

Re: Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Art Campbell
Alison, One common way of setting this up in Frame is to create a (usually) one row, two cell table. One cell, often with a hanging indent so that it's visible in the margin, contains a symbol or graphic for Notes/Cautions/Warnings. The other cell, usually set so that it runs in margin with the

Saving conditional Boolean expressions?

2009-06-18 Thread Jim Owens
Is there a way in FM8 or FM9 to save and re-use conditional expressions created using the Build expression dialog box? I'm using FM8 and I can't find a way to do this. I'm hoping the capability has been added for FM9. ___ You are currently

RE: Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Writer
If you used a line above and below the note that was the width of the printed part of the page (eg, 5 inches), you would probably have to create a separate note para tag for tables (I can't remember what happens to a line that is longer than the space that it's in). Nadine --- On Thu,

FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 -- FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-18 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi folks, Here's another FM9 question. I can't find anything on the Adobe website about this. Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later than 4.2? FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious limitations. Unfortunately, we cannot switch to DITA because we have a

RE: Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Combs, Richard
Nadine wrote: FM does support tables within tables, but you have to put the inner table into an anchored frame. Alison Craig responded: Would this method support the border above and below the Note? Sure, you're still using a table for the notes, so you still have the table borders

RE: Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Writer
Right. I forgot about having to put it into a text frame, too. I avoid putting tables into tables because I've often used WebWorks ePublisher to create online help. ePublisher views anything inside of an anchored frame as an image (and will turn embedded tables into an image), thus ignoring

RE: Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Alison Craig
Thanks. I'll be trying everyone's suggestions over the next day or so and hopefully, I'll get this done. Then it'll be on to the next question ;-))) Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 Fax: (604) 279-8559 E-mail:

Re: FM-9.0p237 - Distiller 8.1.0 colour/font odds

2009-06-18 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Am 18.06.2009 um 16:57 schrieb Art Campbell: your sequence of PDFs and posts seems to confirm the long-standing ideas that: 1.) SaveAs PDF from within FrameMaker uses a different workflow and different options than Printing to a PDF logical printer, and When I once compared a PostScript

Re: FM-9.0p237 - Distiller 8.1.0 colour/font odds

2009-06-18 Thread Mike Wickham
I say that Save As PDF _is_ _now_ the preferred way to create PDFs. But there is no reason to warn against using Save As PDF. Wow. I'd sure take issue with that advice. I've been using FrameMaker since version 6.0, and been a member of the forum since that time. There have been countless

Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-18 Thread Hedley Finger
Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is worth upgrading from FM8? I downloaded the trial and played with it a bit and like the new menus. But was any substantially or even slightly useful functionality added that makes it must have? Regards, Hedley -- Hedley

Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-18 Thread Writer
If you're using it to author in DITA, then I would say yes. If you're authoring in unstructured, I would say meh. Nadine Hedley Finger wrote: > Does anyone with /extensive experience/ with FrameMaker 9 think it is > worth upgrading from FM8? I downloaded the trial and played with it a > bit

New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-18 Thread Helen Borrie
At 02:23 AM 18/06/2009, Susan Curtzwiler wrote: >Hi All, > > Using FM 7.0, Acrobat Distiller 5.0, Vista Enterprise on Compaq laptop. >- > >In the pdf setup, I have marked the file to open on pg 1. However, the file >is now opening at the end of the book. > >Can I make the file open

New Topic 2: PDF will not open at beginning

2009-06-18 Thread Helen Borrie
At 10:21 AM 18/06/2009, Art Campbell wrote: >[] >If you can't find it and you need a quick fix, you may want to >download the eval version of Acrobat and make the adjustment on a >different system so you don't mess up your current install. I found that Acrobat Pro won't save any document

Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker?

2009-06-18 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi One of the ways to add callouts to a graphic, is by placing a text frame in the anchored frame and typing the callout in this text frame. However, when this text is translated, you get text expansion, and the text frame may become too small. Apparently, this phenomenon is called "overset". For

Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker?

2009-06-18 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hi Yves, We once created a simple script to find text overflows, run the script and it will find the first overflow. May be you can use it to create a more advanced script. // Detect overflow in AFrames // Script detects first overflow and stops there // copyright iDTP; versie 1.0; januari 2003

Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker?

2009-06-18 Thread Art Campbell
Even with William's script as a base... In general, including text in a graphic isn't usually considered a good practice for just the reason you point out -- during translation, the text shrinks or grows, depending on the target languages, and that can require minute adjustment to the graphic. A

FM9: Insert Topicref buttons in the Resource Manager don't seem to work

2009-06-18 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi FrameUsers I'm using FM9.0p237 in Windows XP SP3. I have a DITA map open in the Resource Manager view. I want to add topicrefs to my ditamap, but when I click the Insert Child or Sibling Topicref button, nothing seems to happen. Apparently, I can only do this when I switch to Document View.

Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker?

2009-06-18 Thread Writer
That's what we do. We put A, B, C... in the graphic, and then create a table below the graphic with headers like Item, Name, Description. Nadine --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Art Campbell wrote: > From: Art Campbell > Subject: Re: Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker? > To:

FM-9.0p237 - Distiller 8.1.0 colour/font odds

2009-06-18 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear all, Both in FM 8 and in FM 9 I habe set in maker.ini: [Preferences] GetLibraryColorRGBFromCMYK=None Save as PDF in FM-8 - colour cmyk 100/25/25/0 looks ok - font Lucida Sans Semibold (and other bold/semibold) are used Save as PDF in FM-9 - colour cmyk 100/25/25/0 is blueisch, rather than

Save as PDF - odds in FM 8

2009-06-18 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear experts, With FrameMaker 8.0p277 and distiller 8.1.0 i note the following behavior. This was the same already with distiller 7.x XP-SP2, all files on local HDs 1 Save as PDF (only book file is open, chapter files are not) 2 After some time distiller starts and fm builds the tps 3 Distiller

FM-9.0p237 - Distiller 8.1.0 colour/font odds

2009-06-18 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear all, Both in FM 8 and in FM 9 I habe set in maker.ini: [Preferences] GetLibraryColorRGBFromCMYK=None Save as PDF in FM-8 - colour cmyk 100/25/25/0 looks ok - font Lucida Sans Semibold (and other bold/semibold) are used Save as PDF in FM-9 - colour cmyk 100/25/25/0 is blueisch, rather than

Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker?

2009-06-18 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Yves, If you can't find something, let me know, and I can write you a FrameScript script to do this. Depending on your exact requirements, the cost should be under $150. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. rick at frameexpert.com 585-659-8267 Hi One of the ways to

FM-9.0p237 - Distiller 8.1.0 colour/font odds

2009-06-18 Thread Art Campbell
Klaus, Forgive me if I'm not getting the idea that you're presenting, but your sequence of PDFs and posts seems to confirm the long-standing ideas that: 1.) SaveAs PDF from within FrameMaker uses a different workflow and different options than Printing to a PDF logical printer, and 2.) SaveAs

ANN: Last chance to register - June and July Training at Front Runner, Toronto, Canada

2009-06-18 Thread Veronica
For over 12 years, Front Runner Training has provided technical writers and documentation specialists the skills to work efficiently - saving both the writers and their companies time and money. Our instructors are from various fields such as; desktop publishing, XML/DITA development, graphic

FW: FM9: Book within a book, generated files not in PDF

2009-06-18 Thread Kees van de Wal
Hello again, A few days ago I've posted a message about the disappearing TOC when printing a book with a childbook. See e-mail below. Someone told me this is an intended functionality of FM. When you print the childbook, you want to see the TOC, but when you print the main-book you don't want to

Overset Manager (or a similar Framescript) for FrameMaker?

2009-06-18 Thread Chris Despopoulos
I did something similar, where I implemented a tiny language that specified the order in which to try and modify the formatting to get content to fit on a specific page (the last page). I implemented font changes, text frame changes, line space changes, and I forget what else. The language

Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-18 Thread Cathy Arthur
Hi, We upgraded because of the free SDL AuthorAssistant, which we are using to improve both consistency and readability in our docs. We are too small for an editor at this time. We are a group of 5, and everyone here likes the new interface. We use both structured and unstructured docs, but not

FM9: Book within a book, generated files not in PDF

2009-06-18 Thread Combs, Richard
Kees van de Wal wrote: > A few days ago I've posted a message about the disappearing TOC when > printing a book with a childbook. See e-mail below. > > Someone told me this is an intended functionality of FM. When you print > the childbook, you want to see the TOC, but when you print the

Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Alison Craig
Would this method support the border above and below the Note? If we were doing a manual redesign I could look at creating a new style for Notes, but at the moment we're doing what is essentially a one-to-one conversion without any redesign in "look and feel". As the manuals deal with medical

Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Alison Craig
Forgive me if I sound ignorant - although being new to FM, the term is applicable - if I make the Notes/Cautions/Warnings into a graphic, wouldn't that imply that all contents of every Note (or Caution or Warning) would have to be identical? Alison From: Gary

Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Art Campbell
Alison, One common way of setting this up in Frame is to create a (usually) one row, two cell table. One cell, often with a hanging indent so that it's visible in the margin, contains a symbol or graphic for Notes/Cautions/Warnings. The other cell, usually set so that it runs in margin with the

Saving conditional Boolean expressions?

2009-06-18 Thread Jim Owens
Is there a way in FM8 or FM9 to save and re-use conditional expressions created using the "Build expression" dialog box? I'm using FM8 and I can't find a way to do this. I'm hoping the capability has been added for FM9.

Saving conditional Boolean expressions?

2009-06-18 Thread Art Campbell
I have a hunch you may be able to copy and paste to store it on a Reference page, and I haven't played with equations enough to know if you can or not. Another option may be to play with the Autotext plug-in. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion,

Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Writer
If you used a line above and below the note that was the width of the printed part of the page (eg, 5 inches), you would probably have to create a separate note para tag for tables (I can't remember what happens to a line that is longer than the space that it's in). Nadine --- On Thu,

FM9 Question Was: Is FM8 --> FM9 worth the money?

2009-06-18 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi folks, Here's another FM9 question. I can't find anything on the Adobe website about this. Does anyone know if FM9 supports a version of DocBook later than 4.2? FM8 supports only DB 4.2 and there are some serious limitations. Unfortunately, we cannot switch to DITA because we have a

Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Combs, Richard
Nadine wrote: > FM does support tables within tables, but you have to put the inner > table into an anchored frame. Alison Craig responded: > Would this method support the border above and below the Note? Sure, you're still using a table for the notes, so you still have the table borders

Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Writer
Right. I forgot about having to put it into a text frame, too. I avoid putting tables into tables because I've often used WebWorks ePublisher to create online help. ePublisher views anything inside of an anchored frame as an image (and will turn embedded tables into an image), thus ignoring

Converting from Word to FM9: Tables in Tables??

2009-06-18 Thread Alison Craig
Thanks. I'll be trying everyone's suggestions over the next day or so and hopefully, I'll get this done. Then it'll be on to the next question ;-))) Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 Fax: (604) 279-8559 E-mail: alison.craig at

FM-9.0p237 - Distiller 8.1.0 colour/font odds

2009-06-18 Thread Mike Wickham
> I say that Save As PDF _is_ _now_ the preferred way to create PDFs. > But there is no reason to warn against using Save As PDF. Wow. I'd sure take issue with that advice. I've been using FrameMaker since version 6.0, and been a member of the forum since that time. There have been countless

Merge Multiple Doc Styles?

2009-06-18 Thread Karen Robbins
Hello Frame Gurus, I'm rather new to the list so please bear with me. I have a book containing 12 files. Over time (starting before I ever worked with these files), each file's paragraph style sheet has been modified so that now the book's styles are a sea of inconsistency. Using Paragraph