[Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for Plone 3.1 - Flexibility with Portlet Managers / Types

2007-12-14 Thread George Lee
Hello! Martijn Pieters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > One motivation behind #207 is that with the current registration > > proceudre, some portlets such as the Calendar will be available in every > > new portlet column. An alternative way to handle this issue is by using > > PLIP to #205 regist

Re: [Framework-Team] Deadline today, but what timezone?

2007-12-14 Thread Rob Miller
Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: I can't seem to find what the exact deadline is for PLIPs; midnight is mentioned, but in what timezone would that be? :-) i'd say without explicit specification GMT applies. it's up to the current team, of course, but

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 220: Improve browser layer support

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 10:20 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: On 14.12.2007, at 21:18, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I want to propose PLIP 220: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/220 +1 +1 from me, too. and btw, happy birthday, tom!! :) andi -- zeidler it consulting - http://zitc.de/ - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Timezone PLIP anyone? (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Deadline today, but what timezone?)

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: Speaking of Timezone, did anyone write a PLIP about user-configurable timezones i didn't have a look at all the plips out there, but no such plip has been submitted for plone 3.1 at least. so far, that is. I've been meaning to write this

Re: [Framework-Team] Deadline today, but what timezone?

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: I can't seem to find what the exact deadline is for PLIPs; midnight is mentioned, but in what timezone would that be? :-) i'd say without explicit specification GMT applies. andi -- zeidler it consulting - http://zitc.de/ - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 220: Improve browser layer support

2007-12-14 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Dec 14, 2007 9:18 PM, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to propose PLIP 220: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/220 +1 from me. -- Martijn Pieters ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.p

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 220: Improve browser layer support

2007-12-14 Thread Tom Lazar
On 14.12.2007, at 21:18, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I want to propose PLIP 220: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/ 220 +1 Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. _

Timezone PLIP anyone? (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Deadline today, but what timezone?)

2007-12-14 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Dec 14, 2007 6:23 PM, Martijn Pieters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't seem to find what the exact deadline is for PLIPs; midnight is > mentioned, but in what timezone would that be? :-) Speaking of Timezone, did anyone write a PLIP about user-configurable timezones? I've been meaning to wr

[Framework-Team] Deadline today, but what timezone?

2007-12-14 Thread Martijn Pieters
I can't seem to find what the exact deadline is for PLIPs; midnight is mentioned, but in what timezone would that be? :-) -- Martijn Pieters ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framewor

[Framework-Team] PLIP 220: Improve browser layer support

2007-12-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I want to propose PLIP 220: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/220 Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team maili

[Framework-Team] PLIP 219: New site search implementation

2007-12-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I want to propose PLIP 219: New site search implementation http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/219 Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple.

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Re: PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Alec Mitchell
On Dec 14, 2007 10:12 AM, Florian Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:00:43 +0100, Alec Mitchell > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 14, 2007 5:36 AM, Florian Schulze > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:37:14 +0100, Alec Mitchell > >> <[EMAIL P

[Framework-Team] Re: new KSS versions

2007-12-14 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Florian Schulze wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:03:03 +0100, Balazs Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Framework Team, we submitted the following plip: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/215 We suggest to use the following new kss package versions for Plone 3.1: kss.core New ks

[Framework-Team] Re: Re: PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Florian Schulze
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:00:43 +0100, Alec Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 14, 2007 5:36 AM, Florian Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:37:14 +0100, Alec Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 12, 2007 9:27 AM, Florian Schulze > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP: Template overrides

2007-12-14 Thread Martin Aspeli
On 14/12/2007, Alec Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 14, 2007 7:56 AM, Malthe Borch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > so, while i also like the idea, i'm not too sure if plone should ship > > > with it. i'd agree with martin we should discuss and think this through > > > a little furthe

Re: [Framework-Team] Two more PLIPs

2007-12-14 Thread Alec Mitchell
On Dec 14, 2007 8:44 AM, Andreas Zeidler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:11 AM, Alec Mitchell wrote: > > Hi framework team members, > > hi framework team pioneer, > > > A couple more PLIPs to keep you guys busy: > > thank you very much. :) > > > Adapterized local role lookup (bor

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Alec Mitchell
On Dec 14, 2007 5:36 AM, Florian Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:37:14 +0100, Alec Mitchell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 12, 2007 9:27 AM, Florian Schulze > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi Framework Team! > >> > >> > >> This is the other PLIP I want to

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP: Template overrides

2007-12-14 Thread Alec Mitchell
On Dec 14, 2007 7:56 AM, Malthe Borch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > so, while i also like the idea, i'm not too sure if plone should ship > > with it. i'd agree with martin we should discuss and think this through > > a little further. nevertheless, i don't see why the plip wouldn't be > > accep

Re: [Framework-Team] Two more PLIPs

2007-12-14 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Dec 14, 2007 9:11 AM, Alec Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adapterized local role lookup (borg.localrole): > http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/208 > > Adapterized workflow lookup: > http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/217 Thanks for the great PLIPs :-) +1 on both from me. --

Re: [Framework-Team] Two more PLIPs

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:11 AM, Alec Mitchell wrote: Hi framework team members, hi framework team pioneer, A couple more PLIPs to keep you guys busy: thank you very much. :) Adapterized local role lookup (borg.localrole): http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/208 also very nicely written

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP: Template overrides

2007-12-14 Thread Malthe Borch
so, while i also like the idea, i'm not too sure if plone should ship with it. i'd agree with martin we should discuss and think this through a little further. nevertheless, i don't see why the plip wouldn't be acceptable, so +1 on that. True. I say, let's think of z3c.jbot as inspiration an

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP: Template overrides

2007-12-14 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Dec 14, 2007 1:50 AM, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Malthe Borch wrote: > > If this belongs in Plone, then it's pretty much ready for inclusion. > > > >http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/216 > > I do quite like this approach. I think it brings back some of the > "convention

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP: Template overrides

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 1:50 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Malthe Borch wrote: If this belongs in Plone, then it's pretty much ready for inclusion. http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/216 customerize on the fs, so to say, nice! :) My only concern would be whether this ties us into an implementat

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs for Plone 3.1 - Flexibility with Portlet Managers / Types

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 3:45 PM, George Lee wrote: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/207 btw, i've just rejected plip 206, as this obviously was an (unfinished) duplicate of 207. maybe it should better be deleted, so it won't appear in

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs for Plone 3.1 - Flexibility with Portlet Managers / Types

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Dec 13, 2007 3:45 PM, George Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've submitted two PLIPs for Plone 3.1 -- http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/205 http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/207 Excellent PLIPs, well written, thanks. +1 on both

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for Plone 3.1 - Flexibility with Portlet Managers / Types

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, George Lee wrote: Despite this, I actually think it would be best to explicitly register portlets like the calendar portlet for IColumn and IDashboard rather than relying on the current convention -- that if a portlet is registered for None, it appears in all por

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs for Plone 3.1 - Flexibility with Portlet Managers / Types

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 3:45 PM, George Lee wrote: Hi, hi george, I've submitted two PLIPs for Plone 3.1 -- thanks. http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/205 +1 provided the new `getAddableTypes` can — like you suggested — handle both singletons and tuples, so that no migration code is

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs for Plone 3.1 - Flexibility with Portlet Managers / Types

2007-12-14 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Dec 13, 2007 3:45 PM, George Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've submitted two PLIPs for Plone 3.1 -- > http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/205 > http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/207 Excellent PLIPs, well written, thanks. +1 on both from me. > One motivation behind #207 is that

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Florian Schulze
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:37:14 +0100, Alec Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Dec 12, 2007 9:27 AM, Florian Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Framework Team! This is the other PLIP I want to propose besides #213. Martijn did all the hard work for it already. http://plone.org/prod

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #209: Add buildout to Unified Installer

2007-12-14 Thread Raphael Ritz
Andreas Zeidler wrote: [..] The configlet would benefit all Plone installations, not just the unified installer, so we should treat it separately. true, +1. raphael, could you quickly write that up? I would prefer if someone else could do that, sorry. I'm in the middle of an important work

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: A bit unrelated, but should we maybe try to enhance our upgrade story in a way that we list required and optional steps in it and provide the user with a way to select/deselect the optional steps? i like the idea. For cssQuery that won't

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Martijn Pieters wrote: >> On Dec 13, 2007 5:13 PM, Andreas Zeidler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> so, +1 from me, provided we're gonna have the wrapper for cssQuery and >>> an easy way to switch back to the old implementation and the original >>> cssQuery in cas

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #209: Add buildout to Unified Installer

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Dec 14, 2007 12:23 PM, Andreas Zeidler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And while we are at this: Maybe we should add some information to the setup configlet where we show the ZOPEHOME and such. How about adding the path to the Python that's used

Re: [Framework-Team] new KSS versions

2007-12-14 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Dec 13, 2007 10:03 AM, Balazs Ree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/215 Having already talked with Balazs about what's in 1.4 in Napels, I'll give this my +1 as well. > About this last issue I have a particular question. If I do all this, > still two things w

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Dec 2, 2007, at 6:19 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: 1. http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/184 - Ship additional portlets +1 as this is purely add-on functionality and contains no risks other than maybe confusing users if done in a non-in

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #209: Add buildout to Unified Installer

2007-12-14 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Dec 14, 2007 12:23 PM, Andreas Zeidler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And while we are at this: > > Maybe we should add some information to the setup > > configlet where we show the ZOPEHOME and such. > > How about adding the path to the Python that's > > used and the egg directories etc. > > +1

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Alec Mitchell wrote: Yes, but that's something we should be trying to fix (with better compression on the RR ot KSS side, or just by encouraging people to enable mod_deflate on their apache setup). People are going to want KSS-base

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #209: Add buildout to Unified Installer

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Raphael Ritz wrote: What's more: I als tohink this is the only sane way to support egg-based, third-party add-ons. exactly, loads of people could test blobs and report bugs that way, for example... ;) And while we are at this: Maybe we should add some informati

Re: [Framework-Team] new KSS versions

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Balazs Ree wrote: Dear Framework Team, we submitted the following plip: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/215 after talking to balazs about the changes between the current version (1.2.4) and the new one (1.4), mostly clarifying what happened to 1.3 — th

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Alec Mitchell wrote: > On Dec 14, 2007 12:02 AM, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Previously Alec Mitchell wrote: > > > On Dec 12, 2007 9:27 AM, Florian Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Framework Team! > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the other PLIP I want to p

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Alec Mitchell
On Dec 14, 2007 12:02 AM, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Previously Alec Mitchell wrote: > > On Dec 12, 2007 9:27 AM, Florian Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Framework Team! > > > > > > > > > This is the other PLIP I want to propose besides #213. Martijn did all the > > >

[Framework-Team] Two more PLIPs

2007-12-14 Thread Alec Mitchell
Hi framework team members, A couple more PLIPs to keep you guys busy: Adapterized local role lookup (borg.localrole): http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/208 Adapterized workflow lookup: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/217 Feedback appreciated. Alec ___

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martijn Pieters wrote: > On Dec 13, 2007 5:13 PM, Andreas Zeidler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > so, +1 from me, provided we're gonna have the wrapper for cssQuery and > > an easy way to switch back to the old implementation and the original > > cssQuery in case anybody needs those...

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Alec Mitchell wrote: > On Dec 12, 2007 9:27 AM, Florian Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Framework Team! > > > > > > This is the other PLIP I want to propose besides #213. Martijn did all the > > hard work for it already. > > > > http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/212 > >