Re: FreeBSD, OMSA Live CD and DSET tools for Dell 2950 Server?

2008-11-19 Thread VeeJay
Any Help???

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:15 PM, VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any help???

 On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:41 PM, VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello there,

 To diagnose and solve a Disk Encluser issue, I am advised to run two
 tools

 1. Run OMSA live CD on the Server? Since, OMSA Live CD is linux based, I
 am just wondering if it will work or not?
 2. Run Dell's DSET Tool, which is also for Linux systems

 And seeking your comments in this regards:


 *Server Configuration with FreeBSD 7.0*
 **
 *2 x PE2950 III Quad Core Xeon E5450 3.0GHz,2x6MB,1333FSB
 *Riser with PCI Express Support (2x PCIe x8 slots; 1x PCIe x4 slot)
 PE2950 English rack power cord
 PE2950 Bezel Assembly
 *16GB (8x2GB Dual Rank DIMMs) 667MHz FBD
 6 x 450GB SAS 15k 3.5 HD Hot Plug*
 PE2950 III - Chassis 3.5HDD x6 Backplane
 *PERC 6/i, Integrated Controller Card x6 backplane
 *CD/DVD Drive Cable
 8X DVD-ROM Drive IDE
 PE2950 III Redundant Power Supply No Power Cord
 Rack Power Distribution Unit Power Cord
 TCP/IP Offload Engine 2P
 Broadcom TCP/IP Offload Engine functionality (TOE) Not Enabled
 Drac 5 Card
 *PE2950 III C5 MSS R10 Add-in PERC 5/i / 6/i
 *

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Re: FreeBSD, OMSA Live CD and DSET tools for Dell 2950 Server?

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 09:01:42AM +0100, VeeJay wrote:
 Any Help???
 
 On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:15 PM, VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Any help???
 
  On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:41 PM, VeeJay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello there,
 
  To diagnose and solve a Disk Encluser issue, I am advised to run two
  tools
 
  1. Run OMSA live CD on the Server? Since, OMSA Live CD is linux based, I
  am just wondering if it will work or not?
  2. Run Dell's DSET Tool, which is also for Linux systems
 
  And seeking your comments in this regards:
 
 
  *Server Configuration with FreeBSD 7.0*
  **
  *2 x PE2950 III Quad Core Xeon E5450 3.0GHz,2x6MB,1333FSB
  *Riser with PCI Express Support (2x PCIe x8 slots; 1x PCIe x4 slot)
  PE2950 English rack power cord
  PE2950 Bezel Assembly
  *16GB (8x2GB Dual Rank DIMMs) 667MHz FBD
  6 x 450GB SAS 15k 3.5 HD Hot Plug*
  PE2950 III - Chassis 3.5HDD x6 Backplane
  *PERC 6/i, Integrated Controller Card x6 backplane
  *CD/DVD Drive Cable
  8X DVD-ROM Drive IDE
  PE2950 III Redundant Power Supply No Power Cord
  Rack Power Distribution Unit Power Cord
  TCP/IP Offload Engine 2P
  Broadcom TCP/IP Offload Engine functionality (TOE) Not Enabled
  Drac 5 Card
  *PE2950 III C5 MSS R10 Add-in PERC 5/i / 6/i

Replying ANY HELP? every 24 hours will not get you any help.  Please
stop doing this.

If the OMSA CD is bootable, boot it and do what Dell tells you.  If it's
a CD full of Linux utilities, then you're going to need to install or
run Linux somehow before accomplishing that.  Trying to do this on
FreeBSD is probably not worth your time.

Regarding DSET: same advice as above.

When you're finished dealing with all of this, I would highly recommend
taking the time to write a professional and concise letter to a
supervisor or manager at Dell, and express your displeasure with their
Linux-only tools.  They should at least be providing ISO images you can
burn and boot directly to perform enclosure/controller testing.

But I also hope you've learned something from the experience.  Before
you buy hardware, ensure that it's fully manageable under FreeBSD, or
that the vendor offers bootable CDs that can help you.  Otherwise, if
they do not, you're essentially living dangerously.

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Re: [OT] printing question

2008-11-19 Thread perryh
 So the bottom line is:  Get a postscript printer.  They're
 rather expensive ...

I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at Fry's something like
a year ago; granted that was a sale price, dunno regular.  It speaks
PostScript and lpd, so no need to bother with drivers or CUPS; all
it needs is a printcap entry.  (BTW it also works seamlessly from
MacOS X.)

One small caution:  there is also an ML-2571 without the N -- it
may have a different letter -- which is not networked, dunno if
that one handles PostScript.
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Re: mod_auth_ldap

2008-11-19 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 06:32 +0100, Peter Boosten wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Anyone try to compile this one?
 It stops with a
 www/mod_auth_ldap (missing header)
 
 The header it cannot find is:
 mod_auth_ldap.c:61:24: error: apr_compat.h: No such file or directory
 
 And it's right: the file indeed is not on my system, and it didn't come
 with apr-gdbm-db44-1.3.3.1.3.4, nor with apache-2.2.9_5.
 
 Does anyone have some clues about the solution?

Try the APR utilities port.

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Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-11-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I think the fundamental problem with the Windows UI is that it's trying
to cater for both advanced (e.g Shutdown, Restart, Sleep, Hibernate or


well funny - that being able to restart is being advanced user. good to 
know.

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Re: [OT] printing question

2008-11-19 Thread Da Rock

On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 10:49 -0600, Andrew Gould wrote:
 Time to buy a new printer.  I don't print much from FreeBSD; but the need
 occasionally arises.  Most of my printing is done while using Mac OS X.  The
 Epson Artisan 800 is looking awfully nice; but it's not in the Linux
 printing database yet (http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi).
 
 Question:  Since Mac OS X uses CUPS, if I share the printer on the Mac, will
 I need to worry about FreeBSD compatibility of the printer?  I only need
 printing functions (not scan, etc) for the FreeBSD computer.

My understanding of this may be flawed, but from what I read years ago
you should be able to use a pass thru filter (driver) and let the Mac do
the hard work. It may be a slower way to print though, but based on your
outline of the quantity you do print it should suffice.

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Re: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Wednesday 19 November 2008, Gary Hartl wrote:
 Whoa this is way beyond me I think...can you direct me to a howto or the
 like.

 X11 over SSH good lordi'm out of touch with *NIX..
 Am i to understand that i could run a pretty nice (not gnome or kde) but
 one of the less intense interfaces over ssh (this is on an internal network
 so connection speed isn't an issue.

 6 years, and I have admin alzheimers'

 Thanks

X11 over ssh is as simple as:

workstation-with-X ssh -Y headlessbox
headlessbox xterm

Or even shorter:
ssh -Y headlessbox xterm

To enable X11 over SSH you need to at least have xauth installed on the 
headless box (and ofcourse the X program you're trying to run, in my example 
xterm).

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Re: mod_auth_ldap

2008-11-19 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 19 November 2008 06:32:26 Peter Boosten wrote:
 Hi all,

 Anyone try to compile this one?
 It stops with a
 www/mod_auth_ldap (missing header)

 The header it cannot find is:
 mod_auth_ldap.c:61:24: error: apr_compat.h: No such file or directory

 And it's right: the file indeed is not on my system, and it didn't come
 with apr-gdbm-db44-1.3.3.1.3.4, nor with apache-2.2.9_5.

 Does anyone have some clues about the solution?

 TIA

 Peter

The module is outdated. apr_compat.h was deprecated in Apache 2.0 and removed 
in Apache 2.2. Port has to be market BROKEN if APACHE_PORT == www/apache22 
and fixed upstream.

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Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
and never get to the software part.
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Re: mod_auth_ldap

2008-11-19 Thread Peter Boosten
Mel wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 November 2008 06:32:26 Peter Boosten wrote:
 Hi all,

 Anyone try to compile this one?
 It stops with a
 www/mod_auth_ldap (missing header)

 The header it cannot find is:
 mod_auth_ldap.c:61:24: error: apr_compat.h: No such file or directory

 
 The module is outdated. apr_compat.h was deprecated in Apache 2.0 and removed 
 in Apache 2.2. Port has to be market BROKEN if APACHE_PORT == www/apache22 
 and fixed upstream.
 

Mel,

Thnx, that explains all. Do you know of any alternative for ldap
authentication in apache22?

Peter

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Re: mod_auth_ldap

2008-11-19 Thread Julien Cigar
also :
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_ldap.html

On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 11:06 +0100, Peter Boosten wrote:
 Mel wrote:
  On Wednesday 19 November 2008 06:32:26 Peter Boosten wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Anyone try to compile this one?
  It stops with a
  www/mod_auth_ldap (missing header)
 
  The header it cannot find is:
  mod_auth_ldap.c:61:24: error: apr_compat.h: No such file or directory
 
  
  The module is outdated. apr_compat.h was deprecated in Apache 2.0 and 
  removed 
  in Apache 2.2. Port has to be market BROKEN if APACHE_PORT == www/apache22 
  and fixed upstream.
  
 
 Mel,
 
 Thnx, that explains all. Do you know of any alternative for ldap
 authentication in apache22?
 
 Peter
 
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http://www.biodiversity.be
Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB)
Campus de la Plaine CP 257
Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4)
Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2
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Re: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64.
There is no video card on these puppies.  But I seem to recall that we ran
solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that


for fast network (LAN)


telnet/rlogin (better not ssh)

export DISPLAY=IP-of-your-display:0
then start X apps


make sure to allow on your local display connecting X program -
man xhost


for lower speed connection

ssh -C -X yournetra

then run X apps


for lowest speed connection run VNC.


if your local display run windoze you probably have only the last choice.

i don't know if they are working X11 servers for windows.
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Re: mod_auth_ldap

2008-11-19 Thread Peter Boosten
Da Rock wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 06:32 +0100, Peter Boosten wrote:
 Hi all,

 Anyone try to compile this one?
 It stops with a
 www/mod_auth_ldap (missing header)

 The header it cannot find is:
 mod_auth_ldap.c:61:24: error: apr_compat.h: No such file or directory

 And it's right: the file indeed is not on my system, and it didn't come
 with apr-gdbm-db44-1.3.3.1.3.4, nor with apache-2.2.9_5.

 Does anyone have some clues about the solution?
 
 Try the APR utilities port.
 

He Da Rock,

Thanks for your answer. However, which port would that be?

TIA

Peter

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Re: mod_auth_ldap

2008-11-19 Thread Julien Cigar
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_authnz_ldap.html

On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 11:06 +0100, Peter Boosten wrote:
 Mel wrote:
  On Wednesday 19 November 2008 06:32:26 Peter Boosten wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Anyone try to compile this one?
  It stops with a
  www/mod_auth_ldap (missing header)
 
  The header it cannot find is:
  mod_auth_ldap.c:61:24: error: apr_compat.h: No such file or directory
 
  
  The module is outdated. apr_compat.h was deprecated in Apache 2.0 and 
  removed 
  in Apache 2.2. Port has to be market BROKEN if APACHE_PORT == www/apache22 
  and fixed upstream.
  
 
 Mel,
 
 Thnx, that explains all. Do you know of any alternative for ldap
 authentication in apache22?
 
 Peter
 
-- 
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Belgian Biodiversity Platform
http://www.biodiversity.be
Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB)
Campus de la Plaine CP 257
Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4)
Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2
B-1050 Bruxelles
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Re: smbfs 2 GB file size limit

2008-11-19 Thread Derek Ragona

At 12:50 PM 11/18/2008, David Horn wrote:

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Derek Ragona
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 12:23 AM 11/18/2008, David Horn wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Derek Ragona
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have FreeBSD 7.0 Release and if I mount_smbfs  a network NTFS share I
 have
 a 2 GB size limit on files.  I checked the handbook and list archives but
 have not found a solution.

 I just ran a quick test, and was not able to reproduce this issue with
 the mount_smbfs from FreeBSD 7.0.  I tried against a Windows 2003
 Server SP2, Windows XP SP3, and Samba 3.0 {on FreeBSD 7} with a 3.5GB
 file.

 Was your issue with reading from or writing to a SMB share ?

 It was writing to a smb share.


 What is the server software and OS version ?
 (if Microsoft Windows, please include Service Pack number as well, as
 it might make a difference)

 Windows 2003 server 32bit.

 How much disk space is left on your server volume ?

 Over a terabyte free

 Are there disk quotas enabled on the server ?

 None

 What error message are you getting from your FreeBSD client (if any) ?

 No error message, it just stopped writing at 1 Gb.  I was doing this using
 scp.

Whoa, hopefully you just made a few typos here, or we are going down
the wrong path of investigation.

Did you really mean to say scp or cp ?
 scp(1)   - secure copy (remote file copy program)
 cp(1)- copy files

If you really meant scp, then the problem is not mount_smbfs, but
instead likely a buggy scp client or server (which does not use smb
for transport, but ssh)

What is the exact byte count that your write stops at ?  You
originally stated 2GB, then 1GB.


This problem occurs under the following scenario:

I have a windows share mounted on a FreeBSD 7.0 release (i386) using 
mount_smbfs.


I was trying to scp from another server on the LAN to this share a 30GB 
file.  The scp only copied 2 GB of that 30 GB file.   This was using the 
scp on FreeBSD 7.0.


I will try another scp application to determine if it is the scp, or 
mount_smbfs.


I know the server I was coping from via SCP is not an issue.  I was able to 
transfer that 30 GB file from that source server to another *nix server on 
the LAN.






 Can you check the smb server logs and see if you are getting any error
 messages there ?

 Well I'm just mounting the volume to FreeBSD from the Windows server so not
 sure I'll find much in the logs besides the system log, but I will look.

 You may want to get a Wireshark trace and see if you can capture the
 SMB error message/error code.

 I have heard of people running into similar problems when running
 against older server software (NT 4.0/old samba) when the SMB session
 did not negotiate large file/large write support (a function of the
 SMB server capabilities session negotiation)

 I saw posts to that effect and that you needed samba 3.x to support large
 files sizes, and the lfs option.  But the mount_smbfs doesn't offer any
 large file option.


Only bother with this next bit if you are morbidly curious as to how
things work rather than just want to solve your problem, as it gets
into the nitty gritty details of smb:

mount_smbfs will allow for lfs (CAP_LARGE_FILE) automatically by
specifying it's dialect capabilities in the smb negotiation.

If you umount your smb share, then start a tcpdump you can capture the
smb negotiation Capabilities bitmask to see if CAP_LARGE_FILE is
being negotiated - the server specifies this capability.  The client
just sends the dialects of smb supported.For example:

tcpdump -vvv -s 1500 -i em0 host server.example.com | grep Capabilities

{  where em0 is the network interface in use on FreeBSD and
server.example.com is the hostname/ip address of your smb server  }

Then do a mount of the smb share (while tcpdump is running) and you
should capture the Capabilities negotiated.

For example:

Capabilities=0x1F3FD

If you decode the bitmask by using this reference :
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa302230.aspx {hint:  only
look at the last four bytes of the Capabilities line (e.g. F3FD in my
example)} Or if you have kernel source installed, you can look in
/usr/src/sys/netsmb/smb.h for the details.

   - Capabilities: 0x0001F3FD
  RawMode:(...1) Supports
SMB_COM_READ_RAW and SMB_COM_WRITE_RAW (CAP_RAW_MODE)
  MpxMode:(..0.) No
Support for SMB_COM_READ_MPX or SMB_COM_WRITE_MPX (CAP_MPX_MODE)
  Unicode:(.1..) Supports
Unicode Strings (CAP_UNICODE)
  LargeFiles: (1...) Supports
large files with 64-bit offsets (CAP_LARGE_FILES)
  NTSMBs: (...1) Supports
SMB NTLM 0.12 dialect commands (implies CAP_NT_FIND) (CAP_NT_SMBS)
  RPCRemoteAPIs:  (..1.) Supports
remote API requests using RPC over 

best way to add patch to x11/slim-1.3.1

2008-11-19 Thread Fbsd1

On the developers website there is a patch i want to apply

http://developer.berlios.de/patch/?func=detailpatchpatch_id=2283group_id=2663

[ Patch #2283 ] Add a variable to run shutdown commands without root pass.

How can i get make install to apply this patch while compiling the port?

This is the contents of the patch file

 From: Nicolas Pierron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: r???: Add a variable to run shutdown commands without root 
password.


   URL: http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/slim/trunk

 ChangeLog:
 2007-12-16  Nicolas Pierron  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Add a variable to run system command without root password.
* app.cpp: Add the test for reboot, halt and suspend.
* cfg.cpp: Add the new variable with the default value set to false.
* slim.conf: Add an example of the command.

 ---
  app.cpp   |5 +
  cfg.cpp   |1 +
  slim.conf |5 +
  3 files changed, 11 insertions(+)

 Index: slim.conf
 ===
 --- slim.conf  (revision 150)
 +++ slim.conf  (working copy)
 @@ -10,6 +10,11 @@
  console_cmd /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -C -fg white -bg black +sb 
-T Console login -e /bin/sh -c /bin/cat /etc/issue; exec /bin/login

  #suspend_cmd/usr/sbin/suspend

 +# Let normal users have access to systems commands. If the value is true,
 +# then the root password is requiered to start a system command.
 +# Valid values: true|false
 +# root_password false
 +
  # Full path to the xauth binary
  xauth_path /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth

 Index: cfg.cpp
 ===
 --- cfg.cpp(revision 150)
 +++ cfg.cpp(working copy)
 @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@
  options.insert(option(login_cmd,exec /bin/bash -login 
~/.xinitrc %session));

  options.insert(option(halt_cmd,/sbin/shutdown -h now));
  options.insert(option(reboot_cmd,/sbin/shutdown -r now));
 +options.insert(option(root_password,true));
  options.insert(option(suspend_cmd,));
  options.insert(option(sessionstart_cmd,));
  options.insert(option(sessionstop_cmd,));
 Index: app.cpp
 ===
 --- app.cpp(revision 150)
 +++ app.cpp(working copy)
 @@ -407,6 +407,11 @@
  case Panel::Console:
  cerr  APPNAME  : Got a special command (  
LoginPanel-GetName()  )  endl;

  return true; // --- This is simply fake!
 +case Panel::Suspend:
 +case Panel::Halt:
 +case Panel::Reboot:
 +if (cfg-getOption(root_password) == false)
 +  return true;
  default:
  break;
  };


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Re: PEA kernel in FreeBSD 7.0

2008-11-19 Thread Ivan Voras
Olivier Nicole wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am about to install few brand new servers, each with 8GB RAM.
 
 If I choose to use 7.0, will I have to use PEA kernel to be able to
 access the total memory?

Yes if you want to use the 32-bit version of FreeBSD.

Use a 64-bit version instead.



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newb questions

2008-11-19 Thread Paul Cartwright
ok, so I got this freebsd server up and running, even able to ssh to it.
questions:

1. when I run startx it auto logs me in on a minimal gui ( twm?). I installed 
gnome, I think, and want to log in using gnome, how do I change that?

2. I cannot su - to root, it says sorry. pam_group didn't seem like the 
answer, or I didn't read  it right. How can I su to root from my account?
Is there anything special to able to do that from ssh?

3. the boot loader... This server has 2 drives, and I already had w2k server 
on drive 1, and ubuntu-server on drive 2. when I boot, I now get options for 
F2-DOS ( win2k boots) and F5 disk0/1. I can't seem to find any option for my 
ubuntu OS. Is there a way to change that bootloader option to 
add /dev/sdb6-ubuntu?

maybe I was looking in the wrong documentation, if any/all of this is in the 
docs, which one? the handbook?

thanks
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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Wednesday 19 November 2008, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 I installed FBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE amd64 version on an Intel Core2Duo box
 with 4 GB of RAM.  The main purpose of this box is to run the Urchin web
 analysis software from Google.  The Urchin installation docs
 (https://secure.urchin.com/helpwiki/en/Urchin_Installation_Guide_(FreeBSD_a
nd_Linux)) contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process
 datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set kern.maxdsiz=1073741824
 in /boot/loader.conf.  However FBSD 7.1 doesn't appear to have this
 sysctl.  How can I do the equivalent of this in FBSD 7.1?

 Thanks,

 Drew

I don't think you need to increase the datasize on 64bit FreeBSD. It seems 
that the default datasize is really large: 32GB

You can check using the 'limits' command.

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Re: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread chrisa
 I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64.
 There is no video card on these puppies.  But I seem to recall that we
 ran
 solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that

 for fast network (LAN)


 telnet/rlogin (better not ssh)

 export DISPLAY=IP-of-your-display:0
 then start X apps


 make sure to allow on your local display connecting X program -
 man xhost


 for lower speed connection

 ssh -C -X yournetra

 then run X apps


 for lowest speed connection run VNC.


 if your local display run windoze you probably have only the last choice.

 i don't know if they are working X11 servers for windows.

There are, in fact, in cygwin. The cygwin X11 server works quite well and
is free.

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Re: newb questions

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 08:16:36AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
 1. when I run startx it auto logs me in on a minimal gui ( twm?). I installed 
 gnome, I think, and want to log in using gnome, how do I change that?
 
 2. I cannot su - to root, it says sorry. pam_group didn't seem like the 
 answer, or I didn't read  it right. How can I su to root from my account?
 Is there anything special to able to do that from ssh?

I can't answer question #1.

As for #2, you need to add your username to the wheel group in
/etc/group.  That's all.  (You will have to log out then back in for the
changes to take effect)

 3. the boot loader... This server has 2 drives, and I already had w2k server 
 on drive 1, and ubuntu-server on drive 2. when I boot, I now get options for 
 F2-DOS ( win2k boots) and F5 disk0/1. I can't seem to find any option for my 
 ubuntu OS. Is there a way to change that bootloader option to 
 add /dev/sdb6-ubuntu?

I think boot0cfg is the tool you'll want to use for this.  I've never
been in this situation, so I don't have a command to give you.  You can
use boot0cfg -v disk (e.g. boot0cfg -v ad0) to get information about
the boot0 configuration.

 maybe I was looking in the wrong documentation, if any/all of this is in the 
 docs, which one? the handbook?

Yes.

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Re: PEA kernel in FreeBSD 7.0

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 08:25:44PM +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am about to install few brand new servers, each with 8GB RAM.
 
 If I choose to use 7.0, will I have to use PEA kernel to be able to
 access the total memory?

Some clarification: the term is PAE, not PEA.  It's important you refer
to it as PAE, because the kernel option is actually called that; if you
typo it, it won't work.  :-)

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Re: best way to add patch to x11/slim-1.3.1

2008-11-19 Thread Greg Larkin
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 On the developers website there is a patch i want to apply
 
 http://developer.berlios.de/patch/?func=detailpatchpatch_id=2283group_id=2663
 
 
 [ Patch #2283 ] Add a variable to run shutdown commands without root pass.
 
 How can i get make install to apply this patch while compiling the port?
 

Hi Fbsd1,

Since you've already found a unified diff of the change that you want to
incorporate into the port, you can submit a PR (problem report) using
the form here: http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html.

Just follow the instructions on that page, and your patch will be
submitted to the PR system.  The port maintainer reviews your PR, makes
the necessary change and possibly updates the port's revision number.
You then use portupgrade or some other means to install the new version
of the port with the incorporated patch.

Hope that helps,
Greg
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Error Compiling kdenetwork

2008-11-19 Thread Warren Liddell
Iam using AMD64 FreeBSD 7.1-PreRelease KDE4.1.3 .. when i try to build 
kdenetwork i get as far as below before it errors


Any thoughts/suggestions welcomed
=

[ 19%] Building CXX object
kget/plasma/applet/CMakeFiles/plasma_kget_barapplet.dir/common/kgetappletutils.o
/usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/kget/plasma/applet/common/kgetappletutils.cpp:25:39: 


error: plasma/widgets/iconwidget.h: No such file or directory
/usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/kget/plasma/applet/common/kgetappletutils.cpp: 


In constructor 'ErrorWidget::ErrorWidget(const QString, QGraphicsWidget*)':
/usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/kget/plasma/applet/common/kgetappletutils.cpp:72: 


error: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct Plasma::IconWidget'
/usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/kget/plasma/applet/common/kgetappletutils.h:34: 


error: forward declaration of 'struct Plasma::IconWidget'
/usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/kget/plasma/applet/common/kgetappletutils.cpp:79: 


error: no matching function for call to
'QGraphicsLinearLayout::addItem(Plasma::IconWidget*)'
/usr/local/include/qt4/QtGui/qgraphicslinearlayout.h:72: note:
candidates are: void QGraphicsLinearLayout::addItem(QGraphicsLayoutItem*)
/usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/kget/plasma/applet/common/kgetappletutils.cpp: 


In destructor 'virtual ErrorWidget::~ErrorWidget()':
/usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/kget/plasma/applet/common/kgetappletutils.cpp:90: 


warning: possible problem detected in invocation of delete operator:
/usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/kget/plasma/applet/common/kgetappletutils.cpp:90: 


warning: invalid use of incomplete type 'struct Plasma::IconWidget'
/usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/kget/plasma/applet/common/kgetappletutils.h:34: 


warning: forward declaration of 'struct Plasma::IconWidget'
/usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/kget/plasma/applet/common/kgetappletutils.cpp:90: 


note: neither the destructor nor the class-specific operator delete will
be called, even if they are declared when the class is defined.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/build.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/build.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4/work/kdenetwork-4.1.3/build.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/kdenetwork4.

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Re: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread Olivier Nicole
 I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64.
 There is no video card on these puppies.  But I seem to recall that we ran
 solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that

X windows has client/server built into the protocol: you can run an X
application on a machine that has no video card and display the result
on another machine that has video facility and an X display (called an
X server).

Of course, some things like watching a movie (you run the movie
application on the machine without video card and display the images
on the machine with video card) does not works well over the network:
it is very slow (plus X does not have sound).

 i don't know if they are working X11 servers for windows.

Xming (free) Xwin32 (commercial) cygwin (free but big) and some
others. Depending on the type of application you plan to run Xming can
be a good choice.

Olivier
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Re: newb questions

2008-11-19 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 19 November 2008 14:35:06 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 08:16:36AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
  1. when I run startx it auto logs me in on a minimal gui ( twm?). I
  installed gnome, I think, and want to log in using gnome, how do I change
  that?
 

Change .xinitrc.
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html

  2. I cannot su - to root, it says sorry. pam_group didn't seem like the
  answer, or I didn't read  it right. How can I su to root from my account?
  Is there anything special to able to do that from ssh?

 I can't answer question #1.

 As for #2, you need to add your username to the wheel group in
 /etc/group.  That's all.  (You will have to log out then back in for the
 changes to take effect)

And you can't do this in ssh unless you enabled root logins, obvious chicken 
and egg. Will need to do this with a local root login.

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PEA kernel in FreeBSD 7.0

2008-11-19 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

I am about to install few brand new servers, each with 8GB RAM.

If I choose to use 7.0, will I have to use PEA kernel to be able to
access the total memory?

Best regards.
Olivier
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Re: newb questions

2008-11-19 Thread Ricardo Jesus

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 08:16:36AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
  
1. when I run startx it auto logs me in on a minimal gui ( twm?). I installed 
gnome, I think, and want to log in using gnome, how do I change that?


2. I cannot su - to root, it says sorry. pam_group didn't seem like the 
answer, or I didn't read  it right. How can I su to root from my account?

Is there anything special to able to do that from ssh?



I can't answer question #1.

As for #2, you need to add your username to the wheel group in
/etc/group.  That's all.  (You will have to log out then back in for the
changes to take effect)

  
3. the boot loader... This server has 2 drives, and I already had w2k server 
on drive 1, and ubuntu-server on drive 2. when I boot, I now get options for 
F2-DOS ( win2k boots) and F5 disk0/1. I can't seem to find any option for my 
ubuntu OS. Is there a way to change that bootloader option to 
add /dev/sdb6-ubuntu?



I think boot0cfg is the tool you'll want to use for this.  I've never
been in this situation, so I don't have a command to give you.  You can
use boot0cfg -v disk (e.g. boot0cfg -v ad0) to get information about
the boot0 configuration.

  
maybe I was looking in the wrong documentation, if any/all of this is in the 
docs, which one? the handbook?



Yes.

  

Paul,

Regarding question #1 just take a look at the FreeBSD Handbook, namely 
Chapter 5 The X Window System under section 5.7.1.2.


Regards,
Ricardo Jesus.


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Re: newb questions

2008-11-19 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed November 19 2008, Mel wrote:
 Change .xinitrc.
 http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html 

got it, thanks!

  As for #2, you need to add your username to the wheel group in
  /etc/group.  That's all.  (You will have to log out then back in for the
  changes to take effect)

wheel group, who-da thunk it. I was looking for admin/root group.


 And you can't do this in ssh unless you enabled root logins, obvious
 chicken and egg. Will need to do this with a local root login.

already done and working.
thanks!


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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Drew Tomlinson

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:10:55PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
  

Polytropon wrote:


On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:34:32 -0800, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  

The Urchin installation docs [...]
contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process 
datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set 
kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 in /boot/loader.conf.  However FBSD 7.1 
doesn't appear to have this sysctl.  How can I do the equivalent of 
this in FBSD 7.1?



Exactly, it is *not* a sysctl setting. It's a loader tunable, as
I learned from this list some time ago. Don't search to find
it in the sysctl list, you won't find it there. :-)

In FreeBSD 7 you should be able to set this setting using
the file /boot/loader.conf. I think I had this setting on a
FreeBSD 5 machine, I'll go and check.
  
  
Thanks for your reply.  I guess I expected to be able to view it via  
sysctl even though I understood it could only be changed with a reboot.   
Is there some way to view the current setting?



Through sysctl.
  


OK, what am I missing?

urchin# sysctl -a | grep maxdsiz
compat.ia32.maxdsiz: 536870912
compat.linux32.maxdsiz: 536870912

I do not see one named 'kern.maxdsiz'.

Thanks,

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Re: newb questions

2008-11-19 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed November 19 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 I think boot0cfg is the tool you'll want to use for this.  I've never
 been in this situation, so I don't have a command to give you.  You can
 use boot0cfg -v disk (e.g. boot0cfg -v ad0) to get information about
 the boot0 configuration.

nice, except boot0cfg -v ad1 doesn't recognize ad1's current partitioning 
scheme.. I'll have to go back into gparted to see what slice my other OS is 
booted from. At least this points me in the right direction,
thanks!

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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 19 November 2008 15:06:54 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
  On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:10:55PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
  Polytropon wrote:
  On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:34:32 -0800, Drew Tomlinson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The Urchin installation docs [...]
  contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process
  datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set
  kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 in /boot/loader.conf.  However FBSD 7.1
  doesn't appear to have this sysctl.  How can I do the equivalent of
  this in FBSD 7.1?
 
  Exactly, it is *not* a sysctl setting. It's a loader tunable, as
  I learned from this list some time ago. Don't search to find
  it in the sysctl list, you won't find it there. :-)
 
  In FreeBSD 7 you should be able to set this setting using
  the file /boot/loader.conf. I think I had this setting on a
  FreeBSD 5 machine, I'll go and check.
 
  Thanks for your reply.  I guess I expected to be able to view it via
  sysctl even though I understood it could only be changed with a reboot.
  Is there some way to view the current setting?
 
  Through sysctl.

 OK, what am I missing?

 urchin# sysctl -a | grep maxdsiz
 compat.ia32.maxdsiz: 536870912
 compat.linux32.maxdsiz: 536870912


limits -H. Some loader tuneables aren't exported to sysctl.

$ limits -Hd
Resource limits (current):
  datasize   786432 kB

$ grep maxdsiz /boot/loader.conf
kern.maxdsiz=768M

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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 06:06:54AM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:10:55PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
   
 Polytropon wrote:
 
 On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:34:32 -0800, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 The Urchin installation docs [...]
 contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process  
 datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set  
 kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 in /boot/loader.conf.  However FBSD 
 7.1 doesn't appear to have this sysctl.  How can I do the 
 equivalent of this in FBSD 7.1?
 
 Exactly, it is *not* a sysctl setting. It's a loader tunable, as
 I learned from this list some time ago. Don't search to find
 it in the sysctl list, you won't find it there. :-)

 In FreeBSD 7 you should be able to set this setting using
 the file /boot/loader.conf. I think I had this setting on a
 FreeBSD 5 machine, I'll go and check.
 
 Thanks for your reply.  I guess I expected to be able to view it via  
 sysctl even though I understood it could only be changed with a 
 reboot.   Is there some way to view the current setting?
 

 Through sysctl.
   

 OK, what am I missing?

 urchin# sysctl -a | grep maxdsiz
 compat.ia32.maxdsiz: 536870912
 compat.linux32.maxdsiz: 536870912

 I do not see one named 'kern.maxdsiz'.

Actually, you're not missing anything.  It's me who's missing (part of
my brain).  The loader tunables you want are visible via limits(1), not
sysctl.

Other loader tunables *are* visible through sysctl though, hence my
comment.  Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Drew Tomlinson

Pieter de Goeje wrote:

On Wednesday 19 November 2008, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
  

I installed FBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE amd64 version on an Intel Core2Duo box
with 4 GB of RAM.  The main purpose of this box is to run the Urchin web
analysis software from Google.  The Urchin installation docs
(https://secure.urchin.com/helpwiki/en/Urchin_Installation_Guide_(FreeBSD_a
nd_Linux)) contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process
datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set kern.maxdsiz=1073741824
in /boot/loader.conf.  However FBSD 7.1 doesn't appear to have this
sysctl.  How can I do the equivalent of this in FBSD 7.1?

Thanks,

Drew



I don't think you need to increase the datasize on 64bit FreeBSD. It seems 
that the default datasize is really large: 32GB


You can check using the 'limits' command.
  


Thank you.  You are correct.

urchin limits -Hd
Resource limits (current):
 datasize 33554432 kB

I guess I need to look elsewhere to resolve my problem.

Thanks,

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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Drew Tomlinson

Mel wrote:

On Wednesday 19 November 2008 15:06:54 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
  

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:


On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:10:55PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
  

Polytropon wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:34:32 -0800, Drew Tomlinson 
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

The Urchin installation docs [...]
contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process
datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set
kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 in /boot/loader.conf.  However FBSD 7.1
doesn't appear to have this sysctl.  How can I do the equivalent of
this in FBSD 7.1?


Exactly, it is *not* a sysctl setting. It's a loader tunable, as
I learned from this list some time ago. Don't search to find
it in the sysctl list, you won't find it there. :-)

In FreeBSD 7 you should be able to set this setting using
the file /boot/loader.conf. I think I had this setting on a
FreeBSD 5 machine, I'll go and check.
  

Thanks for your reply.  I guess I expected to be able to view it via
sysctl even though I understood it could only be changed with a reboot.
Is there some way to view the current setting?


Through sysctl.
  

OK, what am I missing?

urchin# sysctl -a | grep maxdsiz
compat.ia32.maxdsiz: 536870912
compat.linux32.maxdsiz: 536870912




limits -H. Some loader tuneables aren't exported to sysctl.

$ limits -Hd
Resource limits (current):
  datasize   786432 kB

$ grep maxdsiz /boot/loader.conf
kern.maxdsiz=768M
  


Thanks for the explanation!  As pointed out by Pieter de Goeje, the 
default size in FBSD 7 amd 64 is 32 GB, confirmed with the limits 
command above.  Thus datasize does not appear to be my problem.  I'm 
shooting in the dark here as Urchin software support is non-existent.  
Are there any other tuneables related to datasize that I might try 
increasing?


Thanks,

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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 19 November 2008 15:43:27 Drew Tomlinson wrote:

 Thanks for the explanation!  As pointed out by Pieter de Goeje, the
 default size in FBSD 7 amd 64 is 32 GB, confirmed with the limits
 command above.  Thus datasize does not appear to be my problem.  I'm
 shooting in the dark here as Urchin software support is non-existent.
 Are there any other tuneables related to datasize that I might try
 increasing?

If the soft limit is set to 'unlimitied' for the user running the program, 
then it is not a datasize problem. You may simply be out of memory. Can you 
track using top(1) how far the software gets and what the memory usage is at 
around the time it crashes?

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RE: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread Gary Hartl


-Original Message-
From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: November-19-08 5:28 AM
To: Gary Hartl
Cc: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: Re: Running X without a videocard

 I am running FBSD-stable 6.0 on some Sun Netra X1's so it is sparc64.
 There is no video card on these puppies.  But I seem to recall that we ran
 solaris X using WinAXE or VNC or something like that

for fast network (LAN)


telnet/rlogin (better not ssh)

export DISPLAY=IP-of-your-display:0
then start X apps

when i do this:
export DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0
xterm

first it tells me that export can't befound, I guess that is because it is a
built it.
So I added to my .profile the following 
DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0
  export DISPLAY
Logged out and logged back in.
Alas no display variable
When i run xterm it tells me that there is not display variable.

Anyone with suggestions
Thanks 

Gary


make sure to allow on your local display connecting X program -
man xhost


for lower speed connection

ssh -C -X yournetra

then run X apps


for lowest speed connection run VNC.


if your local display run windoze you probably have only the last choice.

i don't know if they are working X11 servers for windows.

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Re: FreeBSD and hardware??

2008-11-19 Thread Bruce Cran
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:07:14 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I think the fundamental problem with the Windows UI is that it's
  trying to cater for both advanced (e.g Shutdown, Restart, Sleep,
  Hibernate or
 
 well funny - that being able to restart is being advanced user. good
 to know.
 

Actually, I think it is.  See
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/11/21.html for the reasoning.

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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 19 November 2008 16:05:33 Mel wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 November 2008 15:43:27 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
  Thanks for the explanation!  As pointed out by Pieter de Goeje, the
  default size in FBSD 7 amd 64 is 32 GB, confirmed with the limits
  command above.  Thus datasize does not appear to be my problem.  I'm
  shooting in the dark here as Urchin software support is non-existent.
  Are there any other tuneables related to datasize that I might try
  increasing?

 If the soft limit is set to 'unlimitied' for the user running the program,
 then it is not a datasize problem. You may simply be out of memory. Can you
 track using top(1) how far the software gets and what the memory usage is
 at around the time it crashes?

But of course, if this binary runs in 32-bit mode, this applies:
compat.ia32.maxdsiz: 536870912

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and never get to the software part.
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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Drew Tomlinson

Mel wrote:

On Wednesday 19 November 2008 16:05:33 Mel wrote:
  

On Wednesday 19 November 2008 15:43:27 Drew Tomlinson wrote:


Thanks for the explanation!  As pointed out by Pieter de Goeje, the
default size in FBSD 7 amd 64 is 32 GB, confirmed with the limits
command above.  Thus datasize does not appear to be my problem.  I'm
shooting in the dark here as Urchin software support is non-existent.
Are there any other tuneables related to datasize that I might try
increasing?
  

If the soft limit is set to 'unlimitied' for the user running the program,
then it is not a datasize problem. You may simply be out of memory. Can you
track using top(1) how far the software gets and what the memory usage is
at around the time it crashes?



But of course, if this binary runs in 32-bit mode, this applies:
compat.ia32.maxdsiz: 536870912
  


I'll bet this is it!!!  Thanks.  I'll check it out.

Drew

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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 06:43:27AM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 Mel wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 November 2008 15:06:54 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
   
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 
 On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:10:55PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
   
 Polytropon wrote:
 
 On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:34:32 -0800, Drew Tomlinson   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 The Urchin installation docs [...]
 contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process
 datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set
 kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 in /boot/loader.conf.  However FBSD 7.1
 doesn't appear to have this sysctl.  How can I do the equivalent of
 this in FBSD 7.1?
 
 Exactly, it is *not* a sysctl setting. It's a loader tunable, as
 I learned from this list some time ago. Don't search to find
 it in the sysctl list, you won't find it there. :-)

 In FreeBSD 7 you should be able to set this setting using
 the file /boot/loader.conf. I think I had this setting on a
 FreeBSD 5 machine, I'll go and check.
   
 Thanks for your reply.  I guess I expected to be able to view it via
 sysctl even though I understood it could only be changed with a reboot.
 Is there some way to view the current setting?
 
 Through sysctl.
   
 OK, what am I missing?

 urchin# sysctl -a | grep maxdsiz
 compat.ia32.maxdsiz: 536870912
 compat.linux32.maxdsiz: 536870912
 


 limits -H. Some loader tuneables aren't exported to sysctl.

 $ limits -Hd
 Resource limits (current):
   datasize   786432 kB

 $ grep maxdsiz /boot/loader.conf
 kern.maxdsiz=768M
   

 Thanks for the explanation!  As pointed out by Pieter de Goeje, the  
 default size in FBSD 7 amd 64 is 32 GB, confirmed with the limits  
 command above.  Thus datasize does not appear to be my problem.  I'm  
 shooting in the dark here as Urchin software support is non-existent.   
 Are there any other tuneables related to datasize that I might try  
 increasing?

It would help greatly if you could explain what the problem is that
you're trying to track down?

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Re: large binary, why not strip ?

2008-11-19 Thread Masoom Shaikh
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 08:42:12AM +, Masoom Shaikh wrote:
  most of the programs installed from ports have large binary size on disk
 
  stripping em all reduces their size dramatically
 
  I cannot see the reason for not stripping them by default ?
 
  do I miss anything ?

 I haven't seen anyone point out the downside to stripping binaries and
 libraries: removal of debugging symbols.


Agreed. But not every 'user'  is interested in backtrace. It can be argued
user can
send the trace to someone who is. Well my only point is choice, I should
have
choice to install un-stripped bins only if I wish, since for those who have
no idea
what such symbols are, backtrace is some kind of boring text.

I don't like bins for which `nm` does not give me symbols :)
I was just wondering if installing stripped bins may save small space for
those
of whom PC means mail, IM, mp3, orkut etc

 The apebajs program suddenly
 crashes in some library, here's the now-completely-useless backtrace.
 The user is then forced to go back and recompile *everything* to get
 debugging symbols.

 The non-stripping situation is on a per-port basis, AFAIK.  Not all
 ports have WITH_DEBUG.

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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Drew Tomlinson

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 06:43:27AM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
  

Mel wrote:


On Wednesday 19 November 2008 15:06:54 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
  
  

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:



On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:10:55PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
  
  

Polytropon wrote:


On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:34:32 -0800, Drew Tomlinson   
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  

The Urchin installation docs [...]
contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process
datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set
kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 in /boot/loader.conf.  However FBSD 7.1
doesn't appear to have this sysctl.  How can I do the equivalent of
this in FBSD 7.1?



Exactly, it is *not* a sysctl setting. It's a loader tunable, as
I learned from this list some time ago. Don't search to find
it in the sysctl list, you won't find it there. :-)

In FreeBSD 7 you should be able to set this setting using
the file /boot/loader.conf. I think I had this setting on a
FreeBSD 5 machine, I'll go and check.
  
  

Thanks for your reply.  I guess I expected to be able to view it via
sysctl even though I understood it could only be changed with a reboot.
Is there some way to view the current setting?



Through sysctl.
  
  

OK, what am I missing?

urchin# sysctl -a | grep maxdsiz
compat.ia32.maxdsiz: 536870912
compat.linux32.maxdsiz: 536870912



limits -H. Some loader tuneables aren't exported to sysctl.

$ limits -Hd
Resource limits (current):
  datasize   786432 kB

$ grep maxdsiz /boot/loader.conf
kern.maxdsiz=768M
  
  
Thanks for the explanation!  As pointed out by Pieter de Goeje, the  
default size in FBSD 7 amd 64 is 32 GB, confirmed with the limits  
command above.  Thus datasize does not appear to be my problem.  I'm  
shooting in the dark here as Urchin software support is non-existent.   
Are there any other tuneables related to datasize that I might try  
increasing?



It would help greatly if you could explain what the problem is that
you're trying to track down?
  


I understand I'm asking for magic.  I do not know the problem.  My 
employer's Internet group purchased a software called Urchin which 
appears to be a standalone version of Google Analytics for web site 
reporting.  I have been tasked with installing this software.  Supported 
OSs are Linux, FreeBSD, and Windows.  I chose FreeBSD 7 as I've been 
using it for my home network for years.  However I will be the first to 
admit that I do not really understand the internals.  I am just grateful 
that others that do understand have provided and support this OS for me.  :)


The Urchin software reports a failed to allocate memory error.  The 
sparse Urchin documentation noted above says this error is a known issue 
with FreeBSD and that kern.maxdsiz needs to be set at 1 GB to avoid.  
Because of help from the list, I learned that the default size in 64 bit 
FBSD is 32 GB.  Thus I didn't think this is my issue and was seeking any 
ideas of what else to look at that might be similar.  Mel gave me a 
great nudge that if Urchin is a 32 bit binary (which it is), then it is 
limited by compat.ia32.maxdsiz which is 500 MB by default.  I have set 
this to 1GB and so far, there have not been any further memory errors.


Many thanks to everyone for his/her help!

Cheers,

Drew

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snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread John Almberg

I just noticed something odd and am looking for ideas...

As you can see from the top snippet below, snmpd is getting hammered  
by something. As a comparison, the load averages for this quad-core   
box are usually close to zero.


I'm not even sure I'm using snmpd for anything... not even sure what  
it is, precisely.


I'm digging into docs at the moment, but any ideas much appreciated.

-- John


last pid: 38974;  load averages:  1.24,  1.40,  1.58
342 processes: 6 running, 336 sleeping
CPU states: 13.7% user,  0.0% nice, 13.9% system,  0.3% interrupt,  
72.1% idle
Mem: 5997M Active, 596M Inact, 420M Wired, 206M Cache, 214M Buf, 457M  
Free

Swap: 16G Total, 123M Used, 16G Free

  PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU  
COMMAND

45136 root1 1040  2636M  2621M CPU5   4 254.1H 103.91% snmpd
37368 www 1  200   193M 46232K lockf  6   0:05  3.91% httpd
38819 identry 1 -320  7688K  2648K CPU0   0   0:02  1.61% top


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Re: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:10:28 -0500, Gary Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 when i do this:
 export DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0
 xterm
 
 first it tells me that export can't befound, I guess that is because it is a
 built it.

Important question here: What's your shell? If you're using FreeBSD's 
standard dialog shell, the C shell, export won't work because it's from
sh or bash.



 So I added to my .profile the following 
   DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0
   export DISPLAY
 Logged out and logged back in.
 Alas no display variable
 When i run xterm it tells me that there is not display variable.

Make sure you're using bash (see your shell setting from the chsh
command or echo $SHELL).

If you're using the C shell, you can use the setenv command instead.

% setenv DISPLAY 192.168.0.100:0
% xterm

See the advice regarding xhost in order to have the correct
permissions to run the applications from the desired X server.



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Re: FBSD 7.1 kern.maxdsiz

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 07:54:00AM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 06:43:27AM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
   
 Mel wrote:
 
 On Wednesday 19 November 2008 15:06:54 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 
 On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 04:10:55PM -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 
 Polytropon wrote:
 
 On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:34:32 -0800, Drew Tomlinson  

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The Urchin installation docs [...]
 contain a note for FreeBSD users waring of a hard coded process
 datasiz limit of 500 MB and instruct on to set
 kern.maxdsiz=1073741824 in /boot/loader.conf.  However FBSD 7.1
 doesn't appear to have this sysctl.  How can I do the equivalent of
 this in FBSD 7.1?
 
 Exactly, it is *not* a sysctl setting. It's a loader tunable, as
 I learned from this list some time ago. Don't search to find
 it in the sysctl list, you won't find it there. :-)

 In FreeBSD 7 you should be able to set this setting using
 the file /boot/loader.conf. I think I had this setting on a
 FreeBSD 5 machine, I'll go and check.
 
 Thanks for your reply.  I guess I expected to be able to view it via
 sysctl even though I understood it could only be changed with a reboot.
 Is there some way to view the current setting?
 
 Through sysctl.
 
 OK, what am I missing?

 urchin# sysctl -a | grep maxdsiz
 compat.ia32.maxdsiz: 536870912
 compat.linux32.maxdsiz: 536870912
 
 limits -H. Some loader tuneables aren't exported to sysctl.

 $ limits -Hd
 Resource limits (current):
   datasize   786432 kB

 $ grep maxdsiz /boot/loader.conf
 kern.maxdsiz=768M
 
 Thanks for the explanation!  As pointed out by Pieter de Goeje, the   
 default size in FBSD 7 amd 64 is 32 GB, confirmed with the limits   
 command above.  Thus datasize does not appear to be my problem.  I'm  
 shooting in the dark here as Urchin software support is non-existent. 
   Are there any other tuneables related to datasize that I might try  
 increasing?
 

 It would help greatly if you could explain what the problem is that
 you're trying to track down?
   

 I understand I'm asking for magic.  I do not know the problem.  My  
 employer's Internet group purchased a software called Urchin which  
 appears to be a standalone version of Google Analytics for web site  
 reporting.  I have been tasked with installing this software.  Supported  
 OSs are Linux, FreeBSD, and Windows.  I chose FreeBSD 7 as I've been  
 using it for my home network for years.  However I will be the first to  
 admit that I do not really understand the internals.  I am just grateful  
 that others that do understand have provided and support this OS for me.  
 :)

 The Urchin software reports a failed to allocate memory error.  The  
 sparse Urchin documentation noted above says this error is a known issue  
 with FreeBSD and that kern.maxdsiz needs to be set at 1 GB to avoid.   
 Because of help from the list, I learned that the default size in 64 bit  
 FBSD is 32 GB.  Thus I didn't think this is my issue and was seeking any  
 ideas of what else to look at that might be similar.  Mel gave me a  
 great nudge that if Urchin is a 32 bit binary (which it is), then it is  
 limited by compat.ia32.maxdsiz which is 500 MB by default.  I have set  
 this to 1GB and so far, there have not been any further memory errors.

I believe Mel's recommendation is spot on.  I had no idea this was a
32-bit binary being run on a 64-bit version of FreeBSD.  So yes, the
tunable he gave you should fix the problem.  :-)

Cheers!

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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:57:50AM -0500, John Almberg wrote:
 I just noticed something odd and am looking for ideas...

 As you can see from the top snippet below, snmpd is getting hammered by 
 something. As a comparison, the load averages for this quad-core  box are 
 usually close to zero.

 I'm not even sure I'm using snmpd for anything... not even sure what it 
 is, precisely.

 I'm digging into docs at the moment, but any ideas much appreciated.

I'm greatly concerned by the fact that you have a process on your
machine taking up 103% CPU time (possible on a quad-core machine),
taking up 2621MBytes of memory (RSS), yet you have no idea what it is,
what SNMP is, or why said process is running on your machine.  :-)

You can truss the pid to find out what it's doing, but based on the
above I'm not sure the truss output will be of much use to you.

I would recommend finding out who/what started it by looking at the ppid
of the process (ps -alx | grep 45136, then look at the 3rd column which
is the ppid; then do ps -alx | grep {ppid}).  It's very possible the
ppid will be 1, which is init, which means in this case it was probably
started by a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d.

I would then recommend using gcore on the snmpd pid, which will write
out a very large file (~2.6GB) to $PWD.  You can then examine that
later.

I would then recommend killing it off, then go on a quest to find out
why net-snmpd is on your machine -- and equally as odd, why it's
running.  For this to start, something has to be in /etc/rc.conf to
initialise it.

There's also the possibility that the process running isn't snmpd at
all, but rather a binary of a hacker who has gained access to your box,
especially given that you have no idea what it is.

 last pid: 38974;  load averages:  1.24,  1.40,  1.58
 342 processes: 6 running, 336 sleeping
 CPU states: 13.7% user,  0.0% nice, 13.9% system,  0.3% interrupt, 72.1% 
 idle
 Mem: 5997M Active, 596M Inact, 420M Wired, 206M Cache, 214M Buf, 457M  
 Free
 Swap: 16G Total, 123M Used, 16G Free

   PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU  
 COMMAND
 45136 root1 1040  2636M  2621M CPU5   4 254.1H 103.91% snmpd
 37368 www 1  200   193M 46232K lockf  6   0:05  3.91% httpd
 38819 identry 1 -320  7688K  2648K CPU0   0   0:02  1.61% top

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Re: Port forwarding behind two routers

2008-11-19 Thread Luke Dean



On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Jakub T wrote:


2008/11/15 Luke Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Port-forwarding through two NATs is something I've never had any success
with.  I have a few suggestions that have worked for me and my friends with
this setup.

A) Disable NAT on the ADSL router.  I think the term is bridged mode.
Turn it into a dumb box and shift all the NAT/firewall/routing
responsibilities over to your wireless router.  Depending on your ISP, the
hardware, and the protocols involved, this may not be an option for you.

B) Disable NAT on the wireless router.  This allows it to be a simple
switch and wireless access point.  The price is that you're probably relying
on the DHCP server in the wireless router for your wireless devices and
you'll have to disable the DHCP when you disable NAT.  This creates new
problems to be solved.

C) Plug the FreeBSD box into the ADSL router, skipping the wireless router.
 Your wireless devices will still be double-NATted, but if you're not
running servers on them, you might be able to live with that.



Luke,

Thank you very much, your advices were very helpful and I now have a working
port forwarding through two routers. Sorry for the delay in the answering,
it took me some time to test various options...

Actually your (A) advice is what did the job. I turned off DHCP server on
ADSL router and enabled NAT - DMZ Host option on it (for which I realized
that it was the closest to your description of bridged mode).

Then I configured the wireless router to use static IP config instead of
expecting DHCP server. The situation is now this:

   INTERNET
   |
telephone/adsl-wire
   |
   |
   ADSL router
wan : xx.xx.xx.xx  FreeBSD box (wired)
lan : 192.168.1.1  ip: 192.168.0.102
   | laptopgateway: 192.168.0.1
   | (wireless)|
  [internet plug]ip: 192.168.0.101 |
 Wireless router gateway: 192.168.0.1  |
 wan : 192.168.1.2:|
 lan : 192.168.0.1  . . . . . :|
  [ethernet plug]  |
   |   |
   +---+

DMZ host for ADSL router is 192.168.1.2 -- and it works!

I have one question more (forgive my ignorance): now the wireless router is
configured to use static IP config and I must provide one or more Static
DNS servers to it. Is it ok to type just 192.168.1.1 as DNS (which works
for now) or to copy DNS servers which are automatically provided to the ADSL
router by the ISP?


Your solution is a little different from what I was suggesting, but it
might be a better solution in some ways.

If 192.168.1.1 really works as a source of DNS, I would take that to
mean that your ADSL router is passing your name requests along to the
nameservers that the ISP provided it.  That's good.
If your ISP ever moves its nameservers, it will tell your ADSL box
about it, and the changes should propogate.
If you hardcoded your DNS addresses into your wireless router, you would
have to change them by hand if a change was ever required.

I believe your wireless router is now responsible for being the
firewall for your network, so make sure you've set that up.
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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread John Almberg


On Nov 19, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:


On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:57:50AM -0500, John Almberg wrote:

I just noticed something odd and am looking for ideas...

As you can see from the top snippet below, snmpd is getting  
hammered by
something. As a comparison, the load averages for this quad-core   
box are

usually close to zero.

I'm not even sure I'm using snmpd for anything... not even sure  
what it

is, precisely.

I'm digging into docs at the moment, but any ideas much appreciated.


I'm greatly concerned by the fact that you have a process on your
machine taking up 103% CPU time (possible on a quad-core machine),
taking up 2621MBytes of memory (RSS), yet you have no idea what it is,
what SNMP is, or why said process is running on your machine.  :-)


That's an easy one to answer... Someone else installed FreeBSD on  
this machine. I have figured out MOST of what is on this box, but I'm  
occasionally surprised, like in this case.


However, now that I've read through the installer's notes, I see that  
he had exotic plans for snmp monitoring. From what I can tell, he  
never got it working properly.


In the meantime, I killed off the process. I had to take a  
sledgehammer to it, since a normal stop didn't work:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:log] sudo /usr/local/etc/rc.d/snmpd stop
Stopping snmpd.
Waiting for PIDS: 45136t, 45136op, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
45136, 45136, 45136^C

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:log] sudo kill -SIGKILL 45136

This makes me wonder if the process was just hung in some bad way,  
eating up cpu cycles?


Out of curiosity, I then restarted it. It seemed to run without  
problem after the restart, but after watching it for awhile, I  
stopped it again. I don't think it's doing anything useful at the  
moment.


Now I'm curious about snmp, so perhaps I'll try to figure out how to  
get it to something useful. This machine has 8 hard drives, and is  
located in Manhattan, so I would certainly like to be informed if one  
of the raid drives went on the blink. That was one of the things he  
was trying to get working.


Thanks: John

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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread John Almberg

taking up 2621MBytes of memory (RSS),



BTW, after restarting, the process was a much more reasonable size.  
Another indicator that something had gone seriously wrong with it.


41659 root1  960 23072K  6636K select 0   0:05  0.34% snmpd

Luckily, Monit alerted me to the problem before it got completely out  
of hand. Love that program.


-- John
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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:11:36PM -0500, John Almberg wrote:

 On Nov 19, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:57:50AM -0500, John Almberg wrote:
 I just noticed something odd and am looking for ideas...

 As you can see from the top snippet below, snmpd is getting hammered 
 by
 something. As a comparison, the load averages for this quad-core   
 box are
 usually close to zero.

 I'm not even sure I'm using snmpd for anything... not even sure what 
 it
 is, precisely.

 I'm digging into docs at the moment, but any ideas much appreciated.

 I'm greatly concerned by the fact that you have a process on your
 machine taking up 103% CPU time (possible on a quad-core machine),
 taking up 2621MBytes of memory (RSS), yet you have no idea what it is,
 what SNMP is, or why said process is running on your machine.  :-)

 That's an easy one to answer... Someone else installed FreeBSD on this 
 machine. I have figured out MOST of what is on this box, but I'm  
 occasionally surprised, like in this case.

 However, now that I've read through the installer's notes, I see that he 
 had exotic plans for snmp monitoring. From what I can tell, he never got 
 it working properly.

Interesting.  For small installations, e.g. super simple monitoring,
most people prefer to use bsnmpd(1), which comes with FreeBSD.  The
docs are a bit sparse though, and the config syntax is weird + touchy.
I've tinkered a bit with it though.

 In the meantime, I killed off the process. I had to take a sledgehammer 
 to it, since a normal stop didn't work:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:log] sudo /usr/local/etc/rc.d/snmpd stop
 Stopping snmpd.
 Waiting for PIDS: 45136t, 45136op, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136, 45136,  
 45136, 45136, 45136^C
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:log] sudo kill -SIGKILL 45136

 This makes me wonder if the process was just hung in some bad way,  
 eating up cpu cycles?

Looks like it was wedged on a single CPU maybe? (If it was spiralling
out of control thread-wise, I'd expect to see it chewing up ~400% CPU,
e.g. 100% per core).

More interesting is the fact that it was taking up 2.6GB of RAM.  That
reeks of a memory leak somewhere.  Maybe the snmpd.conf tried to tie
in some shell scripts or executables?

I've seen this behaviour at work on Solaris, but it's rare.  (More
common, we see kernel panics when using old versions of Net-SNMP --
yeah, you read that right, kernel panics.  Seems the Solaris kernel has
some SNMP support in it -- yes, the kernel!)

You would have to work with the Net-SNMP folks to figure out what the
cause was.

 Out of curiosity, I then restarted it. It seemed to run without problem 
 after the restart, but after watching it for awhile, I stopped it again. 
 I don't think it's doing anything useful at the moment.

Then keep it off.  It opens up a listening port, amongst other things.
If you're not using it, don't run it.  :-)

 Now I'm curious about snmp, so perhaps I'll try to figure out how to get 
 it to something useful. This machine has 8 hard drives, and is located in 
 Manhattan, so I would certainly like to be informed if one of the raid 
 drives went on the blink. That was one of the things he was trying to get 
 working.

Net-SNMP won't give you the status of the RAID.  Neither will bsnmpd(10.
FreeBSD simply does not have the hooks to make this possible.  Someone
needs to write the code.  I do not recommend relying on shell scripts
tied into Net-SNMP to accomplish this either (for a lot of very good
reasons); write the code in native C.

It also greatly depends on what you're using for RAID.  If a hardware
controller, good luck getting the status out of an API natively (sans
Areca, which I believe offers an API) -- you'll resort to shell scripts
and CLI binaries, in which case you're *easily* better off with a
cronjob, periodic(8), or a log monitor daemon.

It never ceases to amaze me how people to try shove crazy stuff into
SNMP stacks which should be done elsewhere.  :-)  Even Juniper's JunOS,
which provides an extensive SNMP extension, does not provide everything
desired.

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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread John Almberg
Now I'm curious about snmp, so perhaps I'll try to figure out how  
to get
it to something useful. This machine has 8 hard drives, and is  
located in
Manhattan, so I would certainly like to be informed if one of the  
raid
drives went on the blink. That was one of the things he was trying  
to get

working.


Net-SNMP won't give you the status of the RAID.  Neither will bsnmpd 
(10.

FreeBSD simply does not have the hooks to make this possible.  Someone
needs to write the code.  I do not recommend relying on shell scripts
tied into Net-SNMP to accomplish this either (for a lot of very good
reasons); write the code in native C.

It also greatly depends on what you're using for RAID.  If a hardware
controller, good luck getting the status out of an API natively (sans
Areca, which I believe offers an API) -- you'll resort to shell  
scripts

and CLI binaries, in which case you're *easily* better off with a
cronjob, periodic(8), or a log monitor daemon.


This machine has an Intel motherboard and a hardware raid controller.  
From what I can tell, there is some Intel software installed on the  
machine that makes hardware faults visible to snmp.


That last sentence makes it sound like I know more than I do about  
this situation. I'm just reading from notes. :-)


And I have an Intel disk that came with the motherboard that hints at  
the same type of thing. I've just scanned the docs on the disk...  
looks extraordinarily complicated.


I think I'll leave this to a rainy day when I have nothing to do (ha!)

-- John

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RE: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar


when i do this:
export DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0
xterm

first it tells me that export can't befound, I guess that is because it is a
built it.
So I added to my .profile the following
DISPLAY=192.168.0.100:0
 export DISPLAY


maybe you use csh not bash as me.




Logged out and logged back in.
Alas no display variable


don't forget using xhost on your display
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Re: smbfs 2 GB file size limit

2008-11-19 Thread David Horn
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Derek Ragona
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 12:50 PM 11/18/2008, David Horn wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Derek Ragona
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 12:23 AM 11/18/2008, David Horn wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Derek Ragona
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have FreeBSD 7.0 Release and if I mount_smbfs  a network NTFS share I
 have
 a 2 GB size limit on files.  I checked the handbook and list archives but
 have not found a solution.

 I just ran a quick test, and was not able to reproduce this issue with
 the mount_smbfs from FreeBSD 7.0.  I tried against a Windows 2003
 Server SP2, Windows XP SP3, and Samba 3.0 {on FreeBSD 7} with a 3.5GB
 file.

 Was your issue with reading from or writing to a SMB share ?

 It was writing to a smb share.


 What is the server software and OS version ?
 (if Microsoft Windows, please include Service Pack number as well, as
 it might make a difference)

 Windows 2003 server 32bit.

 How much disk space is left on your server volume ?

 Over a terabyte free

 Are there disk quotas enabled on the server ?

 None

 What error message are you getting from your FreeBSD client (if any) ?

 No error message, it just stopped writing at 1 Gb.  I was doing this using
 scp.

 Whoa, hopefully you just made a few typos here, or we are going down
 the wrong path of investigation.

 Did you really mean to say scp or cp ?
  scp(1)   - secure copy (remote file copy program)
  cp(1)- copy files

 If you really meant scp, then the problem is not mount_smbfs, but
 instead likely a buggy scp client or server (which does not use smb
 for transport, but ssh)

 What is the exact byte count that your write stops at ?  You
 originally stated 2GB, then 1GB.

 This problem occurs under the following scenario:

 I have a windows share mounted on a FreeBSD 7.0 release (i386) using
 mount_smbfs.

 I was trying to scp from another server on the LAN to this share a 30GB
 file.  The scp only copied 2 GB of that 30 GB file.   This was using the scp
 on FreeBSD 7.0.

 I will try another scp application to determine if it is the scp, or
 mount_smbfs.

You may want to just do single variable tests to determine for certain
if you are having a problem with scp or with smb.

- First test:cp 2GB file directly from the FreeBSD local disk
file system to a mounted smbfs file system
- Second test:   scp 2GB file from remote (other server) to FreeBSD local disk

Once you figure out which one is the problem, you can try changing
variables within that scope.

For example, if the issue seems to be scp, try using sftp (both use
ssh transport). You could also try updating ssh on both machines.  If
you are running OpenSSH prior to 4.4 on any machine, there was a known
bug with scp and large files that only affects some platforms. (ssh -v
will show your version)

See ftp://ftp.ca.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/ChangeLog
under 20060318

If the problem seems to be smbfs, then try a smbclient test.

That's about all I can think of at the moment.

Good Luck.

--_Dave


 I know the server I was coping from via SCP is not an issue.  I was able to
 transfer that 30 GB file from that source server to another *nix server on
 the LAN.




 Can you check the smb server logs and see if you are getting any error
 messages there ?

 Well I'm just mounting the volume to FreeBSD from the Windows server so
 not
 sure I'll find much in the logs besides the system log, but I will look.

 You may want to get a Wireshark trace and see if you can capture the
 SMB error message/error code.

 I have heard of people running into similar problems when running
 against older server software (NT 4.0/old samba) when the SMB session
 did not negotiate large file/large write support (a function of the
 SMB server capabilities session negotiation)

 I saw posts to that effect and that you needed samba 3.x to support large
 files sizes, and the lfs option.  But the mount_smbfs doesn't offer any
 large file option.


 Only bother with this next bit if you are morbidly curious as to how
 things work rather than just want to solve your problem, as it gets
 into the nitty gritty details of smb:

 mount_smbfs will allow for lfs (CAP_LARGE_FILE) automatically by
 specifying it's dialect capabilities in the smb negotiation.

 If you umount your smb share, then start a tcpdump you can capture the
 smb negotiation Capabilities bitmask to see if CAP_LARGE_FILE is
 being negotiated - the server specifies this capability.  The client
 just sends the dialects of smb supported.For example:

 tcpdump -vvv -s 1500 -i em0 host server.example.com | grep Capabilities

 {  where em0 is the network interface in use on FreeBSD and
 server.example.com is the hostname/ip address of your smb server  }

 Then do a mount of the smb share (while tcpdump is running) and you
 should capture the Capabilities negotiated.

 For example:

 Capabilities=0x1F3FD

 If you decode 

Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:34:55PM -0500, John Almberg wrote:
 Now I'm curious about snmp, so perhaps I'll try to figure out how to 
 get
 it to something useful. This machine has 8 hard drives, and is  
 located in
 Manhattan, so I would certainly like to be informed if one of the  
 raid
 drives went on the blink. That was one of the things he was trying  
 to get
 working.

 Net-SNMP won't give you the status of the RAID.  Neither will bsnmpd 
 (10.
 FreeBSD simply does not have the hooks to make this possible.  Someone
 needs to write the code.  I do not recommend relying on shell scripts
 tied into Net-SNMP to accomplish this either (for a lot of very good
 reasons); write the code in native C.

 It also greatly depends on what you're using for RAID.  If a hardware
 controller, good luck getting the status out of an API natively (sans
 Areca, which I believe offers an API) -- you'll resort to shell  
 scripts
 and CLI binaries, in which case you're *easily* better off with a
 cronjob, periodic(8), or a log monitor daemon.

 This machine has an Intel motherboard and a hardware raid controller.  
 From what I can tell, there is some Intel software installed on the  
 machine that makes hardware faults visible to snmp.

That would require Net-SNMP to be linked to that software (or library)
directly.  Two things can't just magically talk to one another.  :-)

AFAIK, Intel does not provide such software on FreeBSD, but I could be
complete wrong here.  They primarily focus on Linux, like most companies
do.

 That last sentence makes it sound like I know more than I do about this 
 situation. I'm just reading from notes. :-)

 And I have an Intel disk that came with the motherboard that hints at  
 the same type of thing. I've just scanned the docs on the disk... looks 
 extraordinarily complicated.

I don't know what controller it is, but Net-SNMP doesn't have any sort
of out-of-the-box support for any kind of RAID card.  See above for
what's needed.

I just hope the card is an actual RAID card and not BIOS-level RAID like
Intel MatrixRAID.  If it is MatrixRAID, I highly recommend you back the
entire machine up and reinstall without MatrixRAID, otherwise when you
lose a disk or need to rebuild your array, you'll find your array
broken/gone, be completely unable to rebuild it, or kernel panics.  Note
that all of this stuff works just fine on Linux; the issues listed are
with FreeBSD.

Generally speaking, we (the open-source world) have gotten to the point
with OS-based software RAID (e.g. Linux LVM, FreeBSD ccd/gvinum/ZFS,
OpenSolaris ZFS) where it offers significant advantages over hardware
RAID.  There are good reasons to use hardware RAID, but in those
scenarios admins should be looking at buying an actual filer, e.g.
Network Appliance.  Otherwise, for simple systems (even stuff like
2U or 3U boxes with many disks, e.g. a low-cost filer), stick with
some form of OS-based software RAID if possible.

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Re: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
 X windows has client/server built into the protocol: you can run an X
 application on a machine that has no video card and display the result
 on another machine that has video facility and an X display (called an
 X server).

Does anyone know of a tutorial or a how-to, I would like to try this out.
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boot-time daemon startup (was Re: Newbie question)

2008-11-19 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Gary Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've been out of the bsd loop for a bit, i'm trying to setup nagios which is
 fine 

  

 There are a couple of settings that I either don't remember or never
 remembered and forgot that I never knew it.

  

 Ok so nagios is asking me for an rc.d path, which if i recall FBSD doesn't
 use it is a linux script path for starting services at different run levels.

Any reason you're not installing it from the port?  Someone has already
done the porting effort for you.

FreeBSD doesn't use runlevels in that sense, but it does have a fairly
involved rc.d facility.  Try man rc.d.

 So does FBSD emulate it for certain packages cause Nagios finds it at
 /usr/local/etc/rc.d but the only thing i have in it is webmin.sh which is
 for my webmin interface (although I must confess I'm not sure why it is
 there or what it is doing).  

Presumably you installed webmin from the ports system?

 I must also admit i feel rather retarded, since I used to know this stuff
 like the back of my hand, but it's been 6-7 years since i've been actively
 using FBSD but am looking to get back into it.

That's okay; things haven't stayed static in the FreeBSD world anyway. 

 Rc.d anyone? 

On FreeBSD?  Everyone, pretty much.

 My assumption is that FBSD is using inetd for starting services correct?

No. inetd isn't even started these days unless you override FreeBSD's
defaults on purpose.

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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread John Almberg

This machine has an Intel motherboard and a hardware raid controller.
From what I can tell, there is some Intel software installed on the
machine that makes hardware faults visible to snmp.


That would require Net-SNMP to be linked to that software (or library)
directly.  Two things can't just magically talk to one another.  :-)


As I said, I really have no idea.

Now that I'm reading more deeply in the notes... the monitoring was  
supposed to be with IPMI. No idea what that is, either, but I thought  
I'd toss it into the mix.




AFAIK, Intel does not provide such software on FreeBSD, but I could be
complete wrong here.  They primarily focus on Linux, like most  
companies

do.

That last sentence makes it sound like I know more than I do about  
this

situation. I'm just reading from notes. :-)

And I have an Intel disk that came with the motherboard that hints at
the same type of thing. I've just scanned the docs on the disk...  
looks

extraordinarily complicated.


I don't know what controller it is, but Net-SNMP doesn't have any sort
of out-of-the-box support for any kind of RAID card.  See above for
what's needed.

I just hope the card is an actual RAID card and not BIOS-level RAID  
like
Intel MatrixRAID.  If it is MatrixRAID, I highly recommend you back  
the

entire machine up and reinstall without MatrixRAID, otherwise when you
lose a disk or need to rebuild your array, you'll find your array
broken/gone, be completely unable to rebuild it, or kernel panics.   
Note

that all of this stuff works just fine on Linux; the issues listed are
with FreeBSD.

Generally speaking, we (the open-source world) have gotten to the  
point

with OS-based software RAID (e.g. Linux LVM, FreeBSD ccd/gvinum/ZFS,
OpenSolaris ZFS) where it offers significant advantages over hardware
RAID.  There are good reasons to use hardware RAID, but in those
scenarios admins should be looking at buying an actual filer, e.g.
Network Appliance.  Otherwise, for simple systems (even stuff like
2U or 3U boxes with many disks, e.g. a low-cost filer), stick with
some form of OS-based software RAID if possible.



That's good to know. I was told just the opposite by the guy selling  
the $650 RAID cards. Who'd have thunk?


The card in the box is a

Intel 18E PCI-Express x8 SAS/SATA2 Hardware ROMB RAID with 128MB  
Memory Module and 72 Hour Battery Backup Cache


$625 as shown on the packing list, so I hope it's a good one.

-- John

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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread Mel
On Wednesday 19 November 2008 20:37:05 John Almberg wrote:
  This machine has an Intel motherboard and a hardware raid controller.
  From what I can tell, there is some Intel software installed on the
  machine that makes hardware faults visible to snmp.
 
  That would require Net-SNMP to be linked to that software (or library)
  directly.  Two things can't just magically talk to one another.  :-)

 As I said, I really have no idea.

 Now that I'm reading more deeply in the notes... the monitoring was
 supposed to be with IPMI. No idea what that is, either, but I thought
 I'd toss it into the mix.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Platform_Management_Interface

-- 
Mel

Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
and never get to the software part.
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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 02:37:05PM -0500, John Almberg wrote:
 This machine has an Intel motherboard and a hardware raid controller.
 From what I can tell, there is some Intel software installed on the
 machine that makes hardware faults visible to snmp.

 That would require Net-SNMP to be linked to that software (or library)
 directly.  Two things can't just magically talk to one another.  :-)

 As I said, I really have no idea.

 Now that I'm reading more deeply in the notes... the monitoring was  
 supposed to be with IPMI. No idea what that is, either, but I thought  
 I'd toss it into the mix.

Ah, IPMI... it's another one of those technologies which is a great
idea, but often horribly implemented.  The most common use is for remote
management (serial-over-IP, or even KVM-over-IP), access to hardware
sensors (fans, temps, voltages), and for some other monitoring-related
things.  It's very useful -- when it works.  :-)

On Intel boards (native Intel IPMI) it might be great.  There's been a
lot of problem reports with Supermicro's IPMI, and most are IPMI card
firmware bugs.

 I just hope the card is an actual RAID card and not BIOS-level RAID  
 like
 Intel MatrixRAID.  If it is MatrixRAID, I highly recommend you back  
 the
 entire machine up and reinstall without MatrixRAID, otherwise when you
 lose a disk or need to rebuild your array, you'll find your array
 broken/gone, be completely unable to rebuild it, or kernel panics.   
 Note
 that all of this stuff works just fine on Linux; the issues listed are
 with FreeBSD.

 Generally speaking, we (the open-source world) have gotten to the  
 point
 with OS-based software RAID (e.g. Linux LVM, FreeBSD ccd/gvinum/ZFS,
 OpenSolaris ZFS) where it offers significant advantages over hardware
 RAID.  There are good reasons to use hardware RAID, but in those
 scenarios admins should be looking at buying an actual filer, e.g.
 Network Appliance.  Otherwise, for simple systems (even stuff like
 2U or 3U boxes with many disks, e.g. a low-cost filer), stick with
 some form of OS-based software RAID if possible.


 That's good to know. I was told just the opposite by the guy selling the 
 $650 RAID cards. Who'd have thunk?

Well, hardware RAID has a specific purpose.  I like them for the fact
that they add a layer of abstraction in front of the OS; that is to say,
some of them are bootable even with RAID-5.  FreeBSD's bootloader has a
lot of difficulty booting off of different things, so adding a layer of
abstraction in front is useful.

For example, take into consideration that you can't get kernel panic
dumps (to disk) using gmirror without a bunch of rigmarole.  I forget
which GEOM method it is, but one of them you can't boot off of easily.
gvinum?  geli?  I can't remember.  There's one or two that the
bootstraps don't work with.  Hardware RAID can help solve that.

 The card in the box is a

 Intel 18E PCI-Express x8 SAS/SATA2 Hardware ROMB RAID with 128MB Memory 
 Module and 72 Hour Battery Backup Cache

 $625 as shown on the packing list, so I hope it's a good one.

Ah, I think it's hardware RAID, and PCIe to boot.  Yes, I would
recommend keeping that!  What does it show up as under FreeBSD?  I'm
curious what driver it uses, and what your disks show up as (daX or adX;
probably daX).

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Running emulation in Bochs with network support

2008-11-19 Thread Sdävtaker
Hello,
I installed bochs in FBSD, setup a NE2k in its configuration file and
installed a DFBSD image.
The DFBSD image finds the devices and configures the conection, but it
got no interaction with the outside world, i lost every ping.
Any idea what can i be missing?
Thanks for any help you can share.
Sdav

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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread John Almberg

The card in the box is a

Intel 18E PCI-Express x8 SAS/SATA2 Hardware ROMB RAID with 128MB  
Memory

Module and 72 Hour Battery Backup Cache

$625 as shown on the packing list, so I hope it's a good one.


Ah, I think it's hardware RAID, and PCIe to boot.  Yes, I would
recommend keeping that!  What does it show up as under FreeBSD?  I'm
curious what driver it uses, and what your disks show up as (daX or  
adX;

probably daX).


H'mmm... You are revealing great gaps in my knowledge today, Jeremy.  
Not that that's hard to do...


I've been looking in dmesg.boot and fstab for clues... Not sure if  
that is where I should be looking, but I figured there would be mount  
messages in dmsg.boot. Unfortunately, there is a whole bunch of stuff  
in there I have no clue about. Fascinating reading, though!


Does mf0/mf1 sound correct?

If not, how would I find the driver info? Typical line in fstab:

/dev/mfid0s1a   /   ufs rw   
1   1


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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 03:47:05PM -0500, John Almberg wrote:
 The card in the box is a

 Intel 18E PCI-Express x8 SAS/SATA2 Hardware ROMB RAID with 128MB  
 Memory
 Module and 72 Hour Battery Backup Cache

 $625 as shown on the packing list, so I hope it's a good one.

 Ah, I think it's hardware RAID, and PCIe to boot.  Yes, I would
 recommend keeping that!  What does it show up as under FreeBSD?  I'm
 curious what driver it uses, and what your disks show up as (daX or  
 adX;
 probably daX).

 H'mmm... You are revealing great gaps in my knowledge today, Jeremy. Not 
 that that's hard to do...

 I've been looking in dmesg.boot and fstab for clues... Not sure if that 
 is where I should be looking, but I figured there would be mount  
 messages in dmsg.boot. Unfortunately, there is a whole bunch of stuff in 
 there I have no clue about. Fascinating reading, though!

 Does mf0/mf1 sound correct?

 If not, how would I find the driver info? Typical line in fstab:

 /dev/mfid0s1a   /   ufs rw  1   1

That's mfi(4), which is kinda its own thing (neither daX nor adX).
Still perfectly usable/decent, and Scott Long (as I call him, famous
SCSI guy ;-) ) wrote the driver, so support for it should be available.

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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread Ott Köstner

John Almberg wrote:


If not, how would I find the driver info? Typical line in fstab:

/dev/mfid0s1a   /   ufs rw  1   1


Hey!

# mount

to see what is mounted

# sysctl dev.mfi

to see mfi information

I am using mfi in one of my systems. Mfi is LSI MegaSAS. Very good and
fast raid controller, but unfortunatelly without management software for
BSD.

:)
O.K.


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Re: realtime network replication

2008-11-19 Thread Ivan Voras
Ansar Mohammed wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I need to replicate /home between two freebsd servers in real time (no
 scheduled rsyncs)
 
  
 
 What are my options?

Maybe the best option for you would be
http://www.furquim.org/chironfs/index.en.html used in combination with NFS.

It's available as fusefs-chiron in ports.



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Compiling C++ modules

2008-11-19 Thread Nikola Knežević

Hi,

what are the recommended CXXFLAGS for C++ code which should go in  
kernel module?


Yes, I know C++ in kernel is a bad idea, but those are the  
requirements...


Best,
Nikola
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Re: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar

X windows has client/server built into the protocol: you can run an X
application on a machine that has no video card and display the result
on another machine that has video facility and an X display (called an
X server).


Does anyone know of a tutorial or a how-to, I would like to try this out.



i already answered it before

DISPLAY variable must point to display

like IP-number:0 (or non-zero if you have more than 1 display :)

and computer with display must allow remote connections

man xhost
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Re: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 X windows has client/server built into the protocol: you can run an X
 application on a machine that has no video card and display the result
 on another machine that has video facility and an X display (called an
 X server).

 Does anyone know of a tutorial or a how-to, I would like to try this out.


 i already answered it before

 DISPLAY variable must point to display

 like IP-number:0 (or non-zero if you have more than 1 display :)

 and computer with display must allow remote connections

This complexity of DISPLAY ans xhost is why I find it far easier to use ssh
to make connections where I want to run X-clients.

On the remote system to which one is connecting, make sure that the
sshd_config file has ``X11Forwarding yes'' (and perhaps also
``ForwardX11Trusted yes'').  Restart the sshd process if these need to be
changed.  There are corresponding options in the ssh_config file.

The easiest way to execute a remote X-Client is probably

This runs the remote program with the local username.  The ``-f'' option
automatically runs it in background, detaching from the current session.

ssh -f -Y remotesystem path_to_x_client

These run as a different user on the remote system.

ssh -f -Y -l remoteusername remotesystem path_to_x_client

ssh -f -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] path_to_x_client

If I may to be running multiple x-clients on the remote system, I will
generally connect with an xterm, then launch the x-clients from that
connection.  There are two options here, the first on fast links where I
want to run the xterm on the remote system, the second for slow links
running the xterm on the local system.  In the first, one may have to
specify the full path to the xterm executable if it's not in the default
PATH that sshd will set up.

ssh -f -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] xterm

xterm -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Letting ssh take care of the DISPLAY makes life a lot easier than having to
mess with it and xhosts manually, not to mention that it's far more secure
than telnet.  The ssh connections may well be compressed making remote
connections seem faster than a straight telnet session even on a LAN
(nobody would telnet over the Internet in an unencypted connection would
they :-).

Bill
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hardware compatibility question: intel e7200 + foxconn g31mg-s mobo

2008-11-19 Thread freebsd
After having been burned with an AMD cpu/mobo combination that wouldn't run 
6.x reliabably which I consequently had to sell, I'm going to ask first.


My search of the archives (questions and hardware) came up empty, but that 
seems likely given that both say their archive index was last updated clear 
back in Feb of 2007, despite the note saying they are updated every 24 hours...


Can anyone vouch for running 6.x or 7.0 on an intel e7200 with a foxconn 
g31mg-s mobo?


I was hoping to run this as a low power system but after reading this

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=18410+20569+/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/freebsd-hardware/20080727.freebsd-hardware

and my past experiences I'm a bit concerned unless someone can vouch for it.

Barring that, can someone suggest a low power (particularly when idle) core 
2 duo processor mobo combination?


Thanks,

Gary
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Re: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread Olivier Nicole
 This complexity of DISPLAY ans xhost is why I find it far easier to use ssh
 to make connections where I want to run X-clients.

There is this command that I tend to like, to be run in a trusted
environment only (but using DISPLAY and xhost means that your network
is already trusted): xrsh. It connects using the same
rules/permissions as rsh, but it also exports the DISPLAY, and it
leaves no process waiting on the machine where you executed xrsh.

Olivier
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Re: Running X without a videocard

2008-11-19 Thread Olivier Nicole
 DISPLAY variable must point to display
 like IP-number:0 (or non-zero if you have more than 1 display :)

Shouldn't that be IP-number:0.0 ?

Olivier
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Re: best way to add patch to x11/slim-1.3.1

2008-11-19 Thread Fbsd1

Greg Larkin wrote:

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Fbsd1 wrote:

On the developers website there is a patch i want to apply

http://developer.berlios.de/patch/?func=detailpatchpatch_id=2283group_id=2663


[ Patch #2283 ] Add a variable to run shutdown commands without root pass.

How can i get make install to apply this patch while compiling the port?



Hi Fbsd1,

Since you've already found a unified diff of the change that you want to
incorporate into the port, you can submit a PR (problem report) using
the form here: http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html.

Just follow the instructions on that page, and your patch will be
submitted to the PR system.  The port maintainer reviews your PR, makes
the necessary change and possibly updates the port's revision number.
You then use portupgrade or some other means to install the new version
of the port with the incorporated patch.

Hope that helps,
Greg
- --
Greg Larkin



I submitted PR like you suggested, But i am in need of more immediate 
results. What changes to the port files do i need to make to get the 
port to complie in the patch file?


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Free usenet nntp servers

2008-11-19 Thread Fbsd1
In the past (alt.binaries.warez)  contained monthly posts of a list of 
Free usenet nntp servers. I dont have access to a nntp server so I can't 
search foe the list. Does any one here know of a Free usenet nntp server 
I can access?

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Re: Free usenet nntp servers

2008-11-19 Thread Sahil Tandon
Fbsd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the past (alt.binaries.warez)  contained monthly posts of a list of Free 
 usenet nntp servers. I dont have access to a nntp server so I can't search 
 foe the list. Does any one here know of a Free usenet nntp server I can 
 access?

This is not a FreeBSD question.  Please check google.

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Re: snmpd strangeness

2008-11-19 Thread John Almberg


On Nov 19, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Ott Köstner wrote:


John Almberg wrote:


If not, how would I find the driver info? Typical line in fstab:

/dev/mfid0s1a   /   ufs rw   
1   1



Hey!

# mount

to see what is mounted


I did this, but /dev/mfid0s1a didn't make much sense to me.


# sysctl dev.mfi

to see mfi information


This I didn't know about. Thanks!



I am using mfi in one of my systems. Mfi is LSI MegaSAS. Very good and
fast raid controller, but unfortunatelly without management  
software for

BSD.


Thanks for the additional info!

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Re: best way to add patch to x11/slim-1.3.1

2008-11-19 Thread matt donovan
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Fbsd1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greg Larkin wrote:

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 Fbsd1 wrote:

 On the developers website there is a patch i want to apply


 http://developer.berlios.de/patch/?func=detailpatchpatch_id=2283group_id=2663


 [ Patch #2283 ] Add a variable to run shutdown commands without root
 pass.

 How can i get make install to apply this patch while compiling the
 port?


 Hi Fbsd1,

 Since you've already found a unified diff of the change that you want to
 incorporate into the port, you can submit a PR (problem report) using
 the form here: http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html.

 Just follow the instructions on that page, and your patch will be
 submitted to the PR system.  The port maintainer reviews your PR, makes
 the necessary change and possibly updates the port's revision number.
 You then use portupgrade or some other means to install the new version
 of the port with the incorporated patch.

 Hope that helps,
 Greg
 - --
 Greg Larkin


 I submitted PR like you suggested, But i am in need of more immediate
 results. What changes to the port files do i need to make to get the port to
 complie in the patch file?


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If I remember correctly you just add the patch file to the files/ directory
under the port with a name like patch-file to be patched
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motd not compiled properly or ?

2008-11-19 Thread Lei Chen
Hi there,

I have compiled myself a RELENG_7  stable version of 7 branch.

I did a fresh install on 7.1_prerelease, and cvsup -g -L 2
stable-xxx-cvsup-file
make buildworld, everything goes as it should.

reboot, mergemaster command shows on file motd
--7.1_PRERELEASE
++7??:??:??
rest of motd is the same

now, based on the above showed result, I pressed d to keep original
version, because I don't want to have a system message shows 7:??:??:??

Now my question is, how do I just compile the motd in source tree, and
reinstall just that? Maybe recompile it may make it shows proper version
string.
Or if there's a method beside make buildworld again, it takes ages on my
laptop.

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Re: best way to add patch to x11/slim-1.3.1

2008-11-19 Thread Benjamin Lee
On 11/19/08 17:34, Fbsd1 wrote:
 Greg Larkin wrote:
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 Hash: SHA1

 Fbsd1 wrote:
 On the developers website there is a patch i want to apply

 http://developer.berlios.de/patch/?func=detailpatchpatch_id=2283group_id=2663



 [ Patch #2283 ] Add a variable to run shutdown commands without root
 pass.

 How can i get make install to apply this patch while compiling the
 port?


 Hi Fbsd1,

 Since you've already found a unified diff of the change that you want to
 incorporate into the port, you can submit a PR (problem report) using
 the form here: http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html.

 Just follow the instructions on that page, and your patch will be
 submitted to the PR system.  The port maintainer reviews your PR, makes
 the necessary change and possibly updates the port's revision number.
 You then use portupgrade or some other means to install the new version
 of the port with the incorporated patch.

 Hope that helps,
 Greg
 - --
 Greg Larkin

 
 I submitted PR like you suggested, But i am in need of more immediate
 results. What changes to the port files do i need to make to get the
 port to complie in the patch file?

You should read the FreeBSD Porter's Handbook [1].  In particular,
you'll probably be interested in section 4.4, Patching [2].

[1]
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html
[2]
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/slow-patch.html


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Re: mod_auth_ldap

2008-11-19 Thread Da Rock

On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 10:43 +0100, Peter Boosten wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 06:32 +0100, Peter Boosten wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Anyone try to compile this one?
  It stops with a
  www/mod_auth_ldap (missing header)
 
  The header it cannot find is:
  mod_auth_ldap.c:61:24: error: apr_compat.h: No such file or directory
 
  And it's right: the file indeed is not on my system, and it didn't come
  with apr-gdbm-db44-1.3.3.1.3.4, nor with apache-2.2.9_5.
 
  Does anyone have some clues about the solution?
  
  Try the APR utilities port.
  
 
 He Da Rock,
 
 Thanks for your answer. However, which port would that be?

Apologies, its actually the apr libraries, and is  devel/apr. However,
based on the other replies here it doesn't look like its the problem...

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Re: motd not compiled properly or ?

2008-11-19 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 01:57:54PM +1030, Lei Chen wrote:
 I have compiled myself a RELENG_7  stable version of 7 branch.
 
 I did a fresh install on 7.1_prerelease, and cvsup -g -L 2
 stable-xxx-cvsup-file
 make buildworld, everything goes as it should.
 
 reboot, mergemaster command shows on file motd
 --7.1_PRERELEASE
 ++7??:??:??
 rest of motd is the same
 
 now, based on the above showed result, I pressed d to keep original
 version, because I don't want to have a system message shows 7:??:??:??
 
 Now my question is, how do I just compile the motd in source tree, and
 reinstall just that? Maybe recompile it may make it shows proper version
 string.
 Or if there's a method beside make buildworld again, it takes ages on my
 laptop.

Simply put: you don't have to do anything.

FreeBSD's rc.d system updates the first line of the motd automatically;
see /etc/rc.d/motd.

I highly recommend placing the following into /etc/mergemaster.rc:

# Do not compare template motd to /etc/motd
IGNORE_MOTD=yes

This will cause mergemaster to skip comparing motd, but WILL NOT affect
the use of /etc/rc.d/motd.

Hope this helps.

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