Re: help installing FreeBSD
I've got a Maxtor of 60GB as primary master. My geometry is wrongly reported by the installation program, it reports a geometry of 119108/16/63 while the BIOS reports one of 1024/240/63. If I'm not mistaken, I believe this is a long-time bug in the installer. I've installed several times seeing this error and never had a problem. However, to be safe you could always manually specify the geometry of your disk in the fdisk utility during install. I think this has nothing to do since I'm planning to have FreeBSD as the only OS of the machine, but you never know... These errors are shown just after I leave the partition editor, when they give the warning of making Back ups. Then the 'Writing partitions; message is shown and then the last one that says: Unable to make new root filesystem on /dev/ad0s1a! Command returned status 36 I'm confused. At what point are you pressing Alt-F2? There isn't any point during the installation, that I can think of, that requires you hitting Alt-F2. Though, in reference the short error message above, I would first recommend verifying the checksum of your ISO and then reburning it - start with the simple things :). -David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# fortune Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Semi FreeBSD Related Fedora Linux Question
If you have a working CD-ROM device, then you would be better off with a little bootloader: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/about.html it fits on a floppy and the usage is straight-forward! Andris :) I have a situation where I need to install Fedora Linux on a computer however the CDROM drive is not bootable (old SCSI cdrom drive and an old Adaptec 1542 controller which does not support CDROM boot) and as Fedora no longer supports floppy installs as FreeBSD does, I'm left with the possibility of a network install. Anyhow I had the idea today, while walking my dog, to use one of the FreeBSD systems on my network as a Red Hat kickstart server. It should work, shouldn't it? Red Hat kickstart is just a bootp server with a TFTP server to boot the kernel and an NFS server to install off of, just like a Solaris Jumpstart server would. If I put all the right bits and pieces in the right places, one of my FreeBSD systems should be able to serve as a Red Hat Linux kickstart server, or so I would think. Has anyone done this before? I suppose for that matter a FreeBSD system could even serve as a Solaris Jumpstart server. All the proprietary bits and pieces are served over the network via NFS while the client executes any proprietary code. A Red Hat kickstart server would work similarly so this should work, at least in theory, in both cases. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD UNIX: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org e**(i*pi)+1=0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've recently been experiencing lock ups with the three servers that I've upgraded to 6.x ... one of which is 1 year old, the other two are 3 years old ... after getting everything setup with DDB, to the point that I could provide some very detailed traces, and core dumps, it looks like the problem is the one thing common between all three servers: the iir driver ... the two older machines are running Intel 0CH RAID controllers, the newer one an ICP Vortex card ... both were rock solid machines under 4.x ... I don't have lockups on my 6.0 server, but I confirm there is something strange with the iir driver. On dmesg.*, I can read iir0: Bus B: The SCSI controller successfully recovered from a SCSI BUS issue. The issue may still be present on the BUS. Check cables, termination, termpower, LVDS operation, etc iir0: SCSI-B, ID 3: MPI returned 0x0048 I have an INTEL SRCU42L raid board. Maybe that's REALLY a cable problem I have here? --- Philippe Lang Attik System smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Current Cron Log
Hello, I have a script that is started through cron. This script contains several steps, each step writes information to stdout, in case of errors to stderr. The total script runs for about 6 hours and then the the combined output of all steps is mailed to root. However, is there a way to 'examine/monitor' the scripts progress. Perhaps cron keeps a temporary/current logfile of my scripts output, which i can look at? Any idea's? Thank You. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Current Cron Log
In the last episode (Jul 26), Nicky said: I have a script that is started through cron. This script contains several steps, each step writes information to stdout, in case of errors to stderr. The total script runs for about 6 hours and then the the combined output of all steps is mailed to root. However, is there a way to 'examine/monitor' the scripts progress. Perhaps cron keeps a temporary/current logfile of my scripts output, which i can look at? There should be a sendmail process catching the output of the command cron launched. If there's more than a couple KB of output, it will create a queue file in /var/spool/mqueue that you can look at while the cron job runs. If the job only prints a couple lines of output, though, sendmail won't generate the queue file until it has to deliver the final email. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a good www/picture management port?
On 24 Jul Mike Hunter wrote: I haven't tried gallery on FreeBSD, but I highly recommend it based on my experience with it on Linux. The same goes for me, but for coppermine. A really great program and very well maintained. -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail rejected
All of a sudden mail to this list is rejected. My IP can't be found. It always was, so this is weird. I checked with a dig @large.world.ns and a few others and they all resolved my name / IP OK. I send this mail through my provider (which works). Anybody else experiencing this change in behaviour of the freebsd.org mailer ? -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 +++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
have been trying to compile samba 3 with ads support getting error below
: undefined reference to `krb5_free_error_contents' libads/kerberos_keytab.o(.text+0x1fb): In function `smb_krb5_kt_add_entry': : undefined reference to `krb5_kt_compare' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_rd_cred2' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_crypto_destroy' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_ret_address' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_ret_data' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_ret_keyblock' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_setremotesubkey' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_data_free' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_config_get_strings' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_setlocalsubkey' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_generatelocalsubkey' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_sockaddr2address' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_cc_get_ops' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_get_default_principal' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_cc_copy_cache' /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `init_error_table' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_setkey' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_get_forwarded_creds' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_get_err_text' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_ret_int32' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_h_addr2sockaddr' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_build_authenticator' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_build_ap_req' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_getremoteseqnumber' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_data_zero' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_storage_free' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_config_free_strings' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_create_checksum' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_generate_random_block' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_crypto_init' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_enctype_to_keytype' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_free_creds_contents' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_storage_from_mem' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_store_address' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_decrypt_ivec' /usr/lib/libasn1.so: undefined reference to `initialize_error_table_r' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_store_int16' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_ret_int16' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_get_error_string' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_principal_match' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_setlocalseqnumber' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_storage_to_data' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_store_int32' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_encrypt_ivec' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_storage_emem' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_store_data' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_auth_con_setremoteseqnumber' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_principal_get_realm' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_set_error_string' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_make_principal' /usr/lib/libgssapi.so: undefined reference to `krb5_store_keyblock' *** Error code 1 originaly tryed to compile with ./configure --with-ldap --with-syslog --with-acl-support --with-winbind --with-ads --with-krb5=/usr/local/bin --with-automount --with-pam then tryed to configure with ./configure --with-ldap --with-syslog --with-acl-support --with-winbind --with-automount --with-pam I get the same error with both , any help would be greatly appreshiated I am currently running freebsd 6.1 have tryed compiling with the ports and I got the same error, tryed downloading the source and compiling get the same error, have checked kerbourous package in ports/security/krb5 appears to be installed correctly does anyone know what this error is ? best Regards Michael Moon ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com Internet email is not to be treated as a secure means of communication. Bedfordshire Police monitors all Internet email activity and
RE: Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the Intel PWLA8391GT NIC?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 19 juni 2006 8:11 To: Mark Cc: 'FreeBSD-Questions Questions' Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the Intel PWLA8391GT NIC? Mark schrieb: A similar question as before: does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the Intel PWLA8391GT NIC card? According to Google this card is also known as Intel PRO/1000. It should work with the em(4) driver. Hmm, I tried it, but the card is not recognized. :( The kernel was compiled (and installed) with: device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card Needless to say, I'm disappointed. :( Any way to solve this? I am not a guru at this, but look at the pci ids etc for this in the boot dmesg and then look at the source for this driver and see if some pci ids or something need to be added. Sorry for the tardiness in my reply. I was away for a month. The card was not recognized, so I'm not sure what to look for in dmesg (there was nothing that even remotely hinted to the card/chipset). Any way I can force ifconfig to use the em driver anyway? I cvsup-ed today, and did a buildkernel/installkernel (without a buildworld/installworld), on a Vmware box, just to see if I could compile me a new kernel; but, as expected, ipfw gets messed up that way. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh tunnel - remote access through nat
On Tuesday 25 July 2006 20:03, Drew wrote: Hi, I've got a box that's nat'd out to the internet. It is occassionally neccessary for me to access this box remotely. The obvious answer is: ssh -R :localhost:22 remote.box cat run from the nat'd box where remote box is a place I pretty much always have access too from anywhere, anytime. The problem is that the connection between these two boxes is famously unreliable - so I need to ensure that this connection stays available. Unfortunately, the procedure for this is not obvious to me. I've thought about a cron job, as the connection would simply fail if it couldn't bind to on the remote box to listen. But I'm thinking there has to be something that makes more sense. Suggestions? Feedback? Thanks in advance for any pointers. you can do something like this in bourne-like shells: while true; do ssh -N ... sleep 1 done and something like this in csh: while ( 1 ) ... end from ssh manual: -N Do not execute a remote command. This is useful for just for- warding ports (protocol version 2 only). The sleep command is used to add a little delay in case there is some- thing really wrong and ssh returns immediately, resulting in looping very fast. Then you just have to ensure that ssh will be aware of a dropped connection (by the means of keep-alives) and exit. You can do this with ssh, but you have configure keep-alives on both machines, client and server. An alternative method would be ipfw keep-alives for dynamic rules and you have to configure it only on the box you're ssh'ing from. It works very nice. In both cases you have to use public key authentication in order to log on automatically after a network failure. I guess it's already set up. A few pointers, read ssh, sshd, ssh-keygen and ipfw manuals HTH, Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to use kernel modules from CURRENT on STABLE
Rafael Aquino wrote: When you do a make depend in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/KERNEL/ you are just compiling the modules... Ok, I tried to make something in various directories, it seems that the way to build modules only is: # cd /usr/src/sys/modules # make Thanks, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't print to hplip+CUPS+LJ1160Le
On Jul 25, 2006, at 11:22 PM, Anthony Agelastos wrote: If I wait even longer, /var/log/messages adds the following: /var/log/messages snip Jul 25 22:52:33 dell python: hpssd [ERROR] Not found Jul 25 22:52:33 dell python: [ERROR] Unsupported printer model. /var/log/messages I am willing to try the updated hplip (1.6.6). How do I go about doing so? Hello, I still cannot print to my network print server from any other computer (although it prints fine on the server itself such as a test page). If you read this and do not know how to help me, but have a similar setup working, please at least inform me; the last several posts (here, on cups.org, and on hplip.sf.net) have been unanswered. Lately when I turn the computer on and wait, I see the following messages in /var/log/messages: /var/log/messages Jul 25 22:49:20 dell python: hpssd [ERROR] Not found Jul 25 22:49:20 dell hp: invalid ModelQueryResult: msg=modelqueryresult result-c ode=48 prnt/hpijs/hplip_api.c 396 Jul 25 22:49:20 dell kernel: All threads purged from ugen0.1 Jul 25 22:49:20 dell kernel: All threads purged from ugen0.2 Jul 25 22:49:26 dell python: hpssd [ERROR] Not found /var/log/messages When this is coupled with the errors I receive when I run hp-setup, namely hp-setup -a dell# hp-setup -a HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 0.9.11) Printer/Fax Setup Utility ver. 2.0 Copyright (c) 2003-6 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details. Using device: hp:/usb/hp_LaserJet_1160_series?serial=00CNG1R02434 Setting up device: hp:/usb/hp_LaserJet_1160_series?serial=00CNG1R02434 [ERROR]: Unsupported printer model. /hp-setup -a it tells me that hplip is having issues with my printer (hp LaserJet 1160Le). According to http://hplip.sourceforge.net/ supported_devices/laser.html , my printer is supported (although I a unsure if hplip 0.9.11 had the support or if it was added in the 1.66-series). So, does anyone have any ideas? I can print on the server (and it looks fine). I test this with the CUPS web interface option of printing a test page. When I print from the other computers (Apple laptops) on my LAN, the status of the job hangs at stopped at novalue. I have attached to this email the following files: /var/log/cups/error_log /var/log/messages /etc/rc.conf /etc/devfs.rules /etc/make.conf (the KERNEL config file that is running) /usr/local/etc/cups/cupsd.conf /usr/local/etc/cups/printers.conf These files should completely define the problem and the system that is running. Could somebody please assist me? Thank you for your assistance. -Anthony Agelastos cupsHelp.tar.bz2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf firewall for a server
Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ive been googling for a while now this evening, but have
unsuccesfully found any examples on how to firewall a server. i do
*not* want to build a router, and unfortunatly, every article i seem
to find wants to tell me how to build a router!
The same principles apply everywhere - block everyting, allow the
traffic you need. What traffic you need to pass depends on the
services you intend to make accessible. For a host with a single
network interface, you can get away with a handful of lines, ie
localnet=xl0:network
offered={ ssh, netbios-ns, netbios-dgm, netbios-ssn, www, https }
needed={ ssh, domain, ntp, whois }
block all
pass proto { tcp, udp } from self to any port $needed keep state
pass proto { tcp, udp } from $localnet to self port $offered keep state
A lot of embellishment on this (untested, may contain nuts) is
possible, and you could probably do worse than spend a few moments
browsing the PF docs or for that matter my rather basic PF tutorial at
http://www.bgnett.no/~peter/pf/ to familiarize yourself with the
system.
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Experiencing problems with Ted
Hi all, I just installed Ted (2.17) on my FreeBSD 6.1-Release from the ports using make install clean. I experienced no issues on the installation process and have no problems starting the program but whenever I try to change page properties (File--Properties) Ted keeps exiting abruptly. It also seems to exit abruptly the second time I try to print (File--Print). Hoping someone can shed light on this... am I missing something? Thanks, Bryan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pf firewall for a server
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 02:30, Jonathan Horne wrote: ive been googling for a while now this evening, but have unsuccesfully found any examples on how to firewall a server. i do *not* want to build a router, and unfortunatly, every article i seem to find wants to tell me how to build a router! i just want to learn how to build a simple pf config suitable for a server. if anyone knows of a website where such an example might be found, that would be awesome (but direct config examples in a reply will also be duely appreicated as well :) There are some examples in /usr/share/examples/pf The OpenBSD site is easy to follow: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ thanks, jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6 Hard Lock no logs
Rob Connon (Info) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I have a web/mail server thats running the lastest version of FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p9 #4. In the last month or so it's started hard locking.. when the machine locks up i can still ping it and get connects from telneting to 80,22,etc sometimes i get a banner and sometimes i dont.. but there are no errors on the console or in the logs. The odd thing is the locking seems to happen within a certain time window (mon,tues) and never end of the week or weekend.. i suspected it could have been a bad cron job but nothing falls into that time frame. As a test i've been rebooting the server everynight to see if that would help the machine get past the begining of the week with out a hang and again this morning even though i rebooted last night at 10pm hung around 9:47am. The machine is a Dell PowerEdge 2550, I've had dell come and replace the MB and have ran all their diagnostics aswell with no errors reported.. I've been reading alot about APIC and ACPI and people having similar issues but nothing that fits the bill... below is the dmesg and output of vmstat -i.. another odd thing is the rate for the CPU timer is extremely high compared to other machines with similar hardware or faster hardware. Any help on where to look next would be awesome. Try a debugging kernel and see if you can break to the debugger after the freeze. If so, youcan look at task states. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck in the background
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 02:03, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Jul 25), Michael P. Soulier said: A while ago there was a power failure in my house, long enough to wear down the UPS. I had to power-on my server when I got home (crappy bios), and I noticed after I logged-in that fsck was running non-interactively in the background. Question: If it finds problems that require administrator intervention, how does it tell me if it's running in the background? It logs an error to syslog, and the next time you reboot it forces a foreground check so it can prompt you for instructions. Although to the best of my knowledge, I've never actually seen that happen. What I see is usually the background check works, occasionally the preliminary fsck -F will fail. IIRC that leaves me in single user mode, with instructions to fsck the partition manually. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: any audio wizards know howto store *.smil files?
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 01:31, Gary Kline wrote: Rats. Here's what happened whn I added the two switches to mplayer. Anybody know why the streamm bmbed out?? ... Connecting to server real.npr.org[63.236.6.227]:80 ... Cache size set to 8192 KBytes Connected to server: real.npr.org Cache fill: 7.03% (589824 bytes)Stream EOF detected Cache fill: 7.08% (593920 bytes)REAL file format detected. Stream description: Audio Stream Stream mimetype: audio/x-pn-realaudio Core dumped ;) Exiting... (End of file) In my experience it always does that when a stream has an ending - it doesn't mean it's failed. I see it when recording from the BBC's listen again which streams individual programs, but not on the continuous live-streams. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help installing FreeBSD
If I'm not mistaken, I believe this is a long-time bug in the installer. I've installed several times seeing this error and never had a problem. However, to be safe you could always manually specify the geometry of your disk in the fdisk utility during install. I'm confused. At what point are you pressing Alt-F2? There isn't any point during the installation, that I can think of, that requires you hitting Alt-F2. Though, in reference the short error message above, I would first recommend verifying the checksum of your ISO and then reburning it - start with the simple things :). -David -- I'm sorry, I think I didn't explain it very well... When I choose the media type, a message is shown warning that '...this is the last chance... we can take no responsabillity. I hit 'ok' and then a message appears saying 'writing partitions...' and a few seconds later appears one message saying 'Unable to make new root filesystem on /dev/ad0s1a! Command returned status 36' (sometimes the 'Command returned status 1'). I hit 'ok' and then appears: 'Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting'. And finally the last message I receive is 'Instalation completed with some errors. You may wish to scroll through...' At this point is where I press Alt+F2 and the errors (the WRITE_DMA errors) are shown. Is not necessary to press Alt+F2 but I read it somewhere. I hope you know now where do these errors are shown, if not please respond me again and I'll try to explain it better. By the way, I don't think is the checksum because I was trying to install FreeBSD 5.4 at first and the same error occured, but I will check the checksum, is just that... excuse my ignorance, but what is the checksum of my ISO image and how do I verify it Sorry I know that is a stupid question... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help installing FreeBSD
Hi there, As far as I know, this is a hardware problem. Everytime I experienced that, it was the HD... The same machine with another equal HD didn't show the same problem. []'s -- Rafael Mentz Aquino BSDServer Ltda. 51 - 9847 8825 -- Original Message --- From: adrian esquivel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:53:31 -0600 Subject: Re: help installing FreeBSD If I'm not mistaken, I believe this is a long-time bug in the installer. I've installed several times seeing this error and never had a problem. However, to be safe you could always manually specify the geometry of your disk in the fdisk utility during install. I'm confused. At what point are you pressing Alt-F2? There isn't any point during the installation, that I can think of, that requires you hitting Alt-F2. Though, in reference the short error message above, I would first recommend verifying the checksum of your ISO and then reburning it - start with the simple things :). -David -- I'm sorry, I think I didn't explain it very well... When I choose the media type, a message is shown warning that '...this is the last chance... we can take no responsabillity. I hit 'ok' and then a message appears saying 'writing partitions...' and a few seconds later appears one message saying 'Unable to make new root filesystem on /dev/ad0s1a! Command returned status 36' (sometimes the 'Command returned status 1'). I hit 'ok' and then appears: 'Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting'. And finally the last message I receive is 'Instalation completed with some errors. You may wish to scroll through...' At this point is where I press Alt+F2 and the errors (the WRITE_DMA errors) are shown. Is not necessary to press Alt+F2 but I read it somewhere. I hope you know now where do these errors are shown, if not please respond me again and I'll try to explain it better. By the way, I don't think is the checksum because I was trying to install FreeBSD 5.4 at first and the same error occured, but I will check the checksum, is just that... excuse my ignorance, but what is the checksum of my ISO image and how do I verify it Sorry I know that is a stupid question... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- End of Original Message --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gmirror dual mirrors?
New to gmirror so a newb question. I have my computer setup with 4 sata drives. I am using one for the operating system then one to mirror it. One has data and I want a mirror of that. When creating the first mirror I used gm0. Now creating the 2nd mirror use gm1? Or is there a gotcha hidden away? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Permission to Distribute OS and Demon Logo
The overwhelming majority of argentine PC users run un-licensed Microsoft Sytems and software. The remainder have licenses or use Linux. FreeBSD is unknown to the average PC user. For the desktop pc, check out: http://www.desktopbsd.org/ http://www.pcbsd.org/ Both are using FreeBSD as the OS. DesktopBSD uses KDE for GUI desktop. I just started using dektopbsd and really like it, although I have been using FreeBSD on a separate machine for about a year now. The install for desktopBSD could get any easier. Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gmirror dual mirrors?
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 09:38, Mark Busby wrote: New to gmirror so a newb question. I have my computer setup with 4 sata drives. I am using one for the operating system then one to mirror it. One has data and I want a mirror of that. When creating the first mirror I used gm0. Now creating the 2nd mirror use gm1? Or is there a gotcha hidden away? The name is entirely up to you. You can call your mirror spongebob if you want. I typically include something about the filesystem (such as the mountpoint) in my names (e.g. jn_usr), but that's just personal preference. No number is required. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Permission to Distribute OS and Demon Logo
Hello from Buenos Aires, Argentina! Hello from the USA. My name is Carmen Chase and I request your permission to distribute FreeBSD ports, use the BSD Demon, and links to the manuals downloads sites. Our objective is to locally promote and generalize FreeBSD as end users - not criticize other systems, or profit from FreeBSD. Let me explain: As far as I know, you do not need additional permission just to distribute FreeBSD and related materials. The official policy is that FreeBSD is free and can be distributed freely as long as the copyright information is included. Check the copyright information on the FreeBSD web site. If you wish to create an official mirror site for FreeBSD, then you should look for information on creating and operating a mirror on the web site and possibly talk to people (Email) about that. I believe there is actually already one FreeBSD mirror site in Argentina. I don't have a browser handy at the moment, but I think the address is: ftp.ar.freebsd.org and the CVSup address is: cvsup.ar.freebsd.org All this seems to run on a machine called: gaucho.ar.freebsd.org I don't think there is a problem having an additional mirror site but my suggestion would be to check with the people running the existing mirror on gaucho.ar.freebsd.org and maybe they can help. FreeBSD will be a good thing in Argentina. Good luck, jerry The overwhelming majority of argentine PC users run un-licensed Microsoft Sytems and software. The remainder have licenses or use Linux. FreeBSD is unknown to the average PC user. Although efforts are being made to control piracy, the vast majority of final users cannot afford microsoft licences. In terms of local purchasing power, windows XP would cost the equivalent of $1500 us dollars in the US market. Meanwhile, PC usage continues to grow by leaps and bounds. Over the last few years our family have increasingly used FreeBSD, consider it a grand solution and greatly admire your organization and acheivements. In fact, we would like to see FreeBSD generalized amongst the millions of argentine users and small businesses. To achieve this objective, we are considering a simple non-profit web site, with a help section, history section, forum, bulletin boards, jobs/help wanted, links, videos clips demonstrating the system, etc... and request your permision to use the Demon Logo, and distribute the FreeBSD operating system ports. Any support would be greatly appreciated! Respectfully yours, Carmen Chase tel. 4541-1434 PD please let us know you received this message! --Boundary-00=_C4yxEZMaN43vvZJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Boundary-00=_C4yxEZMaN43vvZJ-- __ Pregunta. Respondi. Descubrm. Todo lo que quermas saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, esta en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). !Probalo ya! http://www.yahoo.com.ar/respuestas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Locate updatedb
Running 6.1 fresh install one of my routines after installing is updating the locate database but I am getting errors and it is not fulling updating. locate: integer out of +-MAXPATHLEN (1024): 1027 locate: integer out of +-MAXPATHLEN (1024): 1027 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Replacing windows XP at home.
I have a hard question to ask and I realize that there are a thousand answers to this question. I am replacing my XP system with a FreeBSD 6.1 system. I finished installing it last night and cvsuped. Now I need to choose a window manager. There are what seems like hundreds of different WM in the ports collection and there is no way I will be able to find the time to read them all and get any kind of good idea on what each one does. I am hoping a few people form the list could e-mail me what they like and for what reason. I want something lean and fast but I want to have my cake and eat it to because I do want something that is not strait up ugly and is functional. KDE seems like it is bloated so I was considering Gnome. I have also been reading about enlightenment and it sounds interesting. I have looked into Fluxbox and it also seems like it would do the trick. Would I be better off just going with Gnome or KDE? I realize once I start installing apps that I will probably wind up installing something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so I am going to wind up bloating my system any ways right? Thanks for any and all suggestions. Sincerely, Joshua Lewis ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gmirror dual mirrors?
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 06:38:48AM -0700, Mark Busby wrote: I am using one for the operating system then one to mirror it. One has data and I want a mirror of that. When creating the first mirror I used gm0. Now creating the 2nd mirror use gm1? Or is there a gotcha hidden away? That's how I do it: orthanc:~ gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad0s1 ad1s1 mirror/gm1 COMPLETE ad4s1 ad6s1 mirror/gm2 COMPLETE ad10s1 ad12s1 -Snow ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Tamouh H. wrote: On Jul 25, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote: ICP Vortex is an Adaptec company and Adaptec doesn't support FreeBSD. We've already been over this once. Not to disagree with you, but Adaptec put new drivers for 5.3 and 5.4 for their 2420, 2820, 2320SLP, 2130SLP, and 4800/4805SAS driver back in April 06 up on their website. Their support could be a lot better, but these are new cards and new FreeBSD drivers... There is no storage manager aaccli like there was earlier :-( (maybe a Linux one, assuming there is one, will work like the Linux aaccli program works on FreeBSD?) I've 2130SLP and the drivers Adaptec posted caused server reboots almost immediately, the documentation were lacking (device name has changed which would cause a failed boot) and as you said aaccli is not working, not even the new linux ASM. On that point, do you still have the linux aaccli file ? I've been looking for it with no luck. Just updated the 2130SLP firmware and its no longer accepting the aaccli utility. Advise.stay away from Adaptec on FreeBSD and especially RAID controllers. Stupid question, but has anyone actually email'd Adaptec support? I'm having issue with the iir driver, I've email'd ICP Support about it, since its one of hte ICP Vortex cards that is causing the problem ... I got a response back to the effect of We do not officially support FreeBSD 6.x, but can you give us details on the problem ... How many ppl out there are running FreeBSD with an iir device? that includes the ICP/Adaptec cards, as well as Intel RAID controllers ... how many are running them on FreeBSD 6.x? How many are getting odd problems with their servers that they can't really trace to anywhere, but aren't posting about it either? The point is, if we keep acting as individuals, vendors will treat as unimportant ... if we start acting like an organization, and actually *lobby* these vendors for better support, maybe they will start to listen to us ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Philippe Lang wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've recently been experiencing lock ups with the three servers that I've upgraded to 6.x ... one of which is 1 year old, the other two are 3 years old ... after getting everything setup with DDB, to the point that I could provide some very detailed traces, and core dumps, it looks like the problem is the one thing common between all three servers: the iir driver ... the two older machines are running Intel 0CH RAID controllers, the newer one an ICP Vortex card ... both were rock solid machines under 4.x ... I don't have lockups on my 6.0 server, but I confirm there is something strange with the iir driver. On dmesg.*, I can read iir0: Bus B: The SCSI controller successfully recovered from a SCSI BUS issue. The issue may still be present on the BUS. Check cables, termination, termpower, LVDS operation, etc iir0: SCSI-B, ID 3: MPI returned 0x0048 I have an INTEL SRCU42L raid board. Maybe that's REALLY a cable problem I have here? have you tried changing the cable? if so, and it still happens, then its probably not a cable problem ... in my case, three servers and two different controllers all lock up since 6.x and all are running iir drivers ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virtual Private Servers???
disclaimer...I have no personal experience with VM's...But, one of the list services I belong to has mentioned this before. See if Qemu might be of use. http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
On 7/26/06, Joshua Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a hard question to ask and I realize that there are a thousand answers to this question. I am replacing my XP system with a FreeBSD 6.1 system. I finished installing it last night and cvsuped. Now I need to choose a window manager. http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3064 search google for window manage comparisons I have used xfce. It's light weight, GUI and customiseable http://www.xfce.org/ ~Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tool to track processes read/write
Hi, Is there a tool that shows how many times a process has read / written to disk ? Preferred in a TOP style. Thx, Tamouh Hakmi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD and papalove
Hi, I wanted to ask if FreeBSD is suitable to the needs of the site our company is building, a large scale video upload and download center. You can see a small version of what we're doing at: http://papalove.tv/ Also, we are funding this out of our own shallow pockets, avoiding venture capital, in an effort to create a media center that will always remain independent, serving artists rather than advertisers. So, I'd like to reach out to you and your community to see if you may know of any programmers, designers, or even film/video artists who may be sympathetic to our cause and interested in knowing more and participating. Sincerely, Kostia Rubchinsky ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tool to track processes read/write
On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Tamouh H. wrote: Is there a tool that shows how many times a process has read / written to disk ? Preferred in a TOP style. Why, yes-- run top -mio. :-) -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Your mail to 'freebsd-emulation' with the subject Barclays IBank Security Measure. Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: SpamAssassin identified this message as possible spam Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/confirm/freebsd-emulation/790ccfa54b5269916bc19a608447b3db44241749 PLEASE NOTE! If you would like to post freely to the list, please subscribe first. If you post from multiple addresses, you can subscribe each address and go into the options page and select 'no mail' for all but one address. This will allow you to post without delay in the future. Sorry for the hassle, but certain immature people made this necessary. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On 7/26/06, User Freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Jul 2006, Tamouh H. wrote: On Jul 25, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Nikolas Britton wrote: ICP Vortex is an Adaptec company and Adaptec doesn't support FreeBSD. We've already been over this once. Not to disagree with you, but Adaptec put new drivers for 5.3 and 5.4 for their 2420, 2820, 2320SLP, 2130SLP, and 4800/4805SAS driver back in April 06 up on their website. Their support could be a lot better, but these are new cards and new FreeBSD drivers... There is no storage manager aaccli like there was earlier :-( (maybe a Linux one, assuming there is one, will work like the Linux aaccli program works on FreeBSD?) I've 2130SLP and the drivers Adaptec posted caused server reboots almost immediately, the documentation were lacking (device name has changed which would cause a failed boot) and as you said aaccli is not working, not even the new linux ASM. On that point, do you still have the linux aaccli file ? I've been looking for it with no luck. Just updated the 2130SLP firmware and its no longer accepting the aaccli utility. Advise.stay away from Adaptec on FreeBSD and especially RAID controllers. Stupid question, but has anyone actually email'd Adaptec support? I'm having issue with the iir driver, I've email'd ICP Support about it, since its one of hte ICP Vortex cards that is causing the problem ... I got a response back to the effect of We do not officially support FreeBSD 6.x, but can you give us details on the problem ... How many ppl out there are running FreeBSD with an iir device? that includes the ICP/Adaptec cards, as well as Intel RAID controllers ... how many are running them on FreeBSD 6.x? How many are getting odd problems with their servers that they can't really trace to anywhere, but aren't posting about it either? The point is, if we keep acting as individuals, vendors will treat as unimportant ... if we start acting like an organization, and actually *lobby* these vendors for better support, maybe they will start to listen to us ... We need an Internet store that only stocks compatible hardware. It should include all the BSDs as well as Linux, Mac OS X, and any other non Microsoft OS. On the site they can just list whats compatible with what and customers can leave compatibility feedback. Other part requirements could be: * Open documentation. * No binary blob drivers. * Source code for company developed drivers. I would not limit the store to just parts that interact with the OS, I want everything needed to build a system; this includes desktops, workstations, rackmount servers, and embedded systems. I also want networking gear. If anyone knows of a vendor that already does this let me know. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 11:23, Joshua Lewis wrote: I am replacing my XP system with a FreeBSD 6.1 system. I finished installing it last night and cvsuped. Now I need to choose a window manager. There are what seems like hundreds of different WM in the ports collection and there is no way I will be able to find the time to read them all and get any kind of good idea on what each one does. I am hoping a few people form the list could e-mail me what they like and for what reason. I use xfce. It's lightweight and very configurable. It has a few fancy tools (file manager, etc) but it doesn't force them on you. It's reasonably intelligent about saving sessions. Some of my favorite features are in plugins, many of which are available as additional ports. (Personal favorites include xfce4-taskbar-plugin (instead of the freestanding taskbar), xfce4-cpugraph-plugin, xfce4-minicmd-plugin). I want something lean and fast but I want to have my cake and eat it to because I do want something that is not strait up ugly and is functional. If you're willing to invest in some customization and add-ons, fluxbox is extremely lean and fast (but not very attractive or full-featured by default). KDE seems like it is bloated so I was considering Gnome. I have also been reading about enlightenment and it sounds interesting. I have looked into Fluxbox and it also seems like it would do the trick. Gnome is also rather bloated. Would I be better off just going with Gnome or KDE? I realize once I start installing apps that I will probably wind up installing something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so I am going to wind up bloating my system any ways right? The two apps I use all the time are kmail (kde) and firefox (which uses gtk). Libraries sitting around on disk don't hurt your system, it's just the ones that are running. You can install KDE, Gnome, fluxbox, xfce4, and a couple others and switch between them to see what you like best. Once you've decided on something, uninstall what you don't use (the pkg_cutleaves port is very useful here). JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 11:44:38AM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: We need an Internet store that only stocks compatible hardware. It should include all the BSDs as well as Linux, Mac OS X, and any other non Microsoft OS. On the site they can just list whats compatible with what and customers can leave compatibility feedback. Other part requirements could be: * Open documentation. * No binary blob drivers. * Source code for company developed drivers. I would not limit the store to just parts that interact with the OS, I want everything needed to build a system; this includes desktops, workstations, rackmount servers, and embedded systems. I also want networking gear. If anyone knows of a vendor that already does this let me know. This may be old news, but http://www.vendorwatch.org/ is making a good attempt at showing how well vendors are working with the open source / free software community. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help installing FreeBSD
adrian esquivel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I've been trying to install FBSD on my computer, but I keep getting an error message that I have absolutely no idea what it means. This is what I get when I hit Alt+F2 DEBUG: Scanning disk ad0 for root filesystem DEBUG: Scanning disk ad0 for swap partitions ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) LBA=63 ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) LBA=63 ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=63 ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) LBA=63 ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) LBA=63 ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=67 [snip] I had similar errors reported when I tried to install FreeBSD from a CDRom drive which was connected to the motherboard with a standard udma(33?) ribbon cable (Yes write errors). Make sure your connectors are the better 80 conductor ones. -- John. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 16:23, Joshua Lewis wrote: KDE seems like it is bloated so I was considering Gnome. I have also been reading about enlightenment and it sounds interesting. I have looked into Fluxbox and it also seems like it would do the trick. Would I be better off just going with Gnome or KDE? I realize once I start installing apps that I will probably wind up installing something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so I am going to wind up bloating my system any ways right? KDE is mostly application modules, which you don't need to install if you dont want them. These days, though, the avoidance of bloat is mostly just a fetish. I've not noticed any speed difference between KDE and the lighter window managers for years. And as far as disk space is concerned we are talking about pennies. I've tried fluxbox and the like off-and-on, but I always miss some KDE feature within minutes. Personally I don't like Gnome, it's less polished than KDE by a sustantial margin; and while upgrading KDE is always easy, Gnome's complex depencies mean that a special script has to be run, and even that doesn't always work. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 06:15:48PM +0100, RW wrote: KDE is mostly application modules, which you don't need to install if you dont want them. These days, though, the avoidance of bloat is mostly just a fetish. I've not noticed any speed difference between KDE and the lighter window managers for years. And as far as disk space is concerned we are talking about pennies. I've tried fluxbox and the like off-and-on, but I always miss some KDE feature within minutes. I disagree. Bloat is bloat. I'm using ion3 on my laptop and it's blazingly fast. I installed KDE on my wife's computer and while it's not a dog it is NOT blazingly fast. OTOH, my wife's only experience was with Windows and she never had any trouble finding her way around in KDE (which is why I installed it for her). If you're replacing WinXP and you want people up to speed fairly quickly then I think KDE is a pretty good choice. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, RW wrote: On Wednesday 26 July 2006 16:23, Joshua Lewis wrote: KDE seems like it is bloated so I was considering Gnome. I have also been reading about enlightenment and it sounds interesting. I have looked into Fluxbox and it also seems like it would do the trick. Would I be better off just going with Gnome or KDE? I realize once I start installing apps that I will probably wind up installing something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so I am going to wind up bloating my system any ways right? KDE is mostly application modules, which you don't need to install if you dont want them. These days, though, the avoidance of bloat is mostly just a fetish. I've not noticed any speed difference between KDE and the lighter window managers for years. And as far as disk space is concerned we are talking about pennies. I've tried fluxbox and the like off-and-on, but I always miss some KDE feature within minutes. Personally I don't like Gnome, it's less polished than KDE by a sustantial margin; and while upgrading KDE is always easy, Gnome's complex depencies mean that a special script has to be run, and even that doesn't always work. I agree with this thought. There is a wrapper port/package kde-lite. I run kde on a 400Mhz laptop and mostly can not tell the difference between using that and my new thinkpad. OpenOffice is much, much, ..., better the kdeoffice. The ultimate lightweight window manager is twm. It is built into X. I use it to install KDE. All of this is very personal. It is well worth finding the one you like. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tar dies on making tape backup
I use the ASCII headers for portability incase I need to restore to another server with a different tar version. -Derek At 06:29 PM 7/25/2006, Jaime wrote: On Jul 25, 2006, at 9:03 AM, Derek Ragona wrote: Using tar with a SDLT I set the blocksize at 1024 and use ASCII headers (-c) Thanks for the advice. I hadn't thought about block size. Why do you use the ASCII headers? Jaime -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Peter A. Giessel wrote: On 7/26/2006 07:35, User Freebsd seems to have typed: The point is, if we keep acting as individuals, vendors will treat as unimportant ... if we start acting like an organization, and actually *lobby* these vendors for better support, maybe they will start to listen to us ... We could also make it a point to support those who actually support us, such as 3ware, thus making it very profitable to continue to support FreeBSD and providing financial disincentive to those who don't support FreeBSD. The problem with this is where is the dis-incentive? those that aren't openly supporting us now don't believe they are losing any money from not supporting us ... What I'd like to see, as I've posted on advocacy as well, is #s to show to those that aren't openly supporting us know to show them that there is a market for them ... Supporting 3ware is good, but what if/when Adaptec buys them out ... Adaptec doesn't officially support FreeBSD, therefore, anyone they buy out would most likely change their policy accordingly ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: * No binary blob drivers. This is one that I don't necessarily agree with ... if Adaptec came out with a *supported* iir driver, but it was binary only, I'd be happy with that ... I just want to know that if I *have* a problem with a piece of hardware, that I can get support for it ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 03:36:51PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: * No binary blob drivers. This is one that I don't necessarily agree with ... if Adaptec came out with a *supported* iir driver, but it was binary only, I'd be happy with that ... I just want to know that if I *have* a problem with a piece of hardware, that I can get support for it ... A lot of people agree with you, but I'm not one of them. It's not about you being inconvenienced in this particular case. It's about choice, and vendors supporting the customers by providing *specs*. What if they provide a blob for FreeBSD but you decide you want to run NetBSD on a particular machine and there's no blob? Or much more likely: what if they provide a blob for Linux, but not for FreeBSD? Should they also provide a blob for Plan 9? If the specs are not open, then your choices are limited to what the vendor wants to develop and support. And that's likely to be Windows, and maybe Linux, and maybe maybe FreeBSD. OTOH, if the vendor opens the specs then good, solid drivers can be written for whatever platform. And ported. And if there's a problem it can be fixed. This even turns out to benefit people who don't give a hoot about whether something is free or open or not. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 18:34, Darrin Chandler wrote: On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 06:15:48PM +0100, RW wrote: KDE is mostly application modules, which you don't need to install if you dont want them. These days, though, the avoidance of bloat is mostly just a fetish. I've not noticed any speed difference between KDE and the lighter window managers for years. And as far as disk space is concerned we are talking about pennies. I've tried fluxbox and the like off-and-on, but I always miss some KDE feature within minutes. I disagree. Bloat is bloat. I'm using ion3 on my laptop and it's blazingly fast. I installed KDE on my wife's computer and while it's not a dog it is NOT blazingly fast. All I can say is I don't see a difference between KDE, XFCE, Fluxbox and TWM on the same machine. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
On 7/26/06, Joshua Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a hard question to ask and I realize that there are a thousand answers to this question. I am replacing my XP system with a FreeBSD 6.1 system. I finished installing it last night and cvsuped. Now I need to choose a window manager. There are what seems like hundreds of different WM in the ports collection and there is no way I will be able to find the time to read them all and get any kind of good idea on what each one does. I am hoping a few people form the list could e-mail me what they like and for what reason. I want something lean and fast but I want to have my cake and eat it to because I do want something that is not strait up ugly and is functional. KDE seems like it is bloated so I was considering Gnome. I have also been reading about enlightenment and it sounds interesting. I have looked into Fluxbox and it also seems like it would do the trick. Would I be better off just going with Gnome or KDE? I realize once I start installing apps that I will probably wind up installing something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so I am going to wind up bloating my system any ways right? gnome and kde are both bloated, why not xfce or fluxbox, they are both lean and fast. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD = Free Software?
I only use free software. I was considering installing a BSD derivative on one of my machines. Does FreeBSD contain only free software? -- Dylan Knight Rogers www.dylanknightrogers.com www.gnu.org www.debian.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD = Free Software?
Dylan Rogers wrote: I only use free software. I was considering installing a BSD derivative on one of my machines. Does FreeBSD contain only free software? Yes, the base system only contains BSDL-ed and GPL-ed code (afaik only these two). From ports you can use some commercial software as well if you have the distfile. -- Cheers, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD = Free Software?
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:32:00 -0500 Dylan Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only use free software. I was considering installing a BSD derivative on one of my machines. Does FreeBSD contain only free software? read the GPL-license, read the BSD-license, draw your own conclusions on what you prefer to use or not use if you really only want to use Free Software, have fun with GNU-Hurd ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Peter A. Giessel wrote: On 7/26/2006 10:34, User Freebsd seems to have typed: Supporting 3ware is good, but what if/when Adaptec buys them out ... Adaptec doesn't officially support FreeBSD, therefore, anyone they buy out would most likely change their policy accordingly ... Not if they look at the sales and go, 2/3rd of their sales are FreeBSD... Companies are pretty reluctant to drop support for a majority of their users. How do they know that 2/3rd of their sales are FreeBSD? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
jan gestre wrote: On 7/26/06, Joshua Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a hard question to ask and I realize that there are a thousand answers to this question. I am replacing my XP system with a FreeBSD 6.1 system. I finished installing it last night and cvsuped. Now I need to choose a window manager. There are what seems like hundreds of different WM in the ports collection and there is no way I will be able to find the time to read them all and get any kind of good idea on what each one does. I am hoping a few people form the list could e-mail me what they like and for what reason. I want something lean and fast but I want to have my cake and eat it to because I do want something that is not strait up ugly and is functional. KDE seems like it is bloated so I was considering Gnome. I have also been reading about enlightenment and it sounds interesting. I have looked into Fluxbox and it also seems like it would do the trick. Would I be better off just going with Gnome or KDE? I realize once I start installing apps that I will probably wind up installing something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so I am going to wind up bloating my system any ways right? gnome and kde are both bloated, why not xfce or fluxbox, they are both lean and fast. Performance is all relative though, based on what your machine's speed is, how much RAM it has, disk space, etc. I personally abandoned Gnome and KDE approximately 1-2 years ago because I found compiling the packages to be too much of a pain and take too much time to accomplish. I use XFCE4.2, and if I feel like it, I use fluxbox from time to time. However, functionality-wise I find XFCE4.2 to be the best thing out there right now, mostly because of the additional daemons and minor programs that run in the background for both KDE (Konqueror, kstart, etc) and Gnome (Nautilus, gnome*daemon, etc). I will say this though: if you want everything, including all the trimmings in a desktop, go for KDE. If you want hardware to just work and like a more polished (ie less cubic) and maybe a bit cartoony look, go for Gnome. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD = Free Software?
albi wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:32:00 -0500 Dylan Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only use free software. I was considering installing a BSD derivative on one of my machines. Does FreeBSD contain only free software? read the GPL-license, read the BSD-license, draw your own conclusions on what you prefer to use or not use if you really only want to use Free Software, have fun with GNU-Hurd ;-) Hurd is purely GPL-ed, while FreeBSD is mostly BSDL-ed. BSDL has almost no restrictions, so I'd rather say FreeBSD is really free, not Hurd. -- Cheers, Gabor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD = Free Software?
On Jul 26, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Dylan Rogers wrote: I only use free software. I was considering installing a BSD derivative on one of my machines. Does FreeBSD contain only free software? What do you consider Free software? gnu is considered by many to NOT be Free because of the virus license. I am not Free to do with it what I want. bsd license is more Free Chad -- Dylan Knight Rogers www.dylanknightrogers.com www.gnu.org www.debian.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Darrin Chandler wrote: On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 03:36:51PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: * No binary blob drivers. This is one that I don't necessarily agree with ... if Adaptec came out with a *supported* iir driver, but it was binary only, I'd be happy with that ... I just want to know that if I *have* a problem with a piece of hardware, that I can get support for it ... A lot of people agree with you, but I'm not one of them. It's not about you being inconvenienced in this particular case. It's about choice, and vendors supporting the customers by providing *specs*. What if they provide a blob for FreeBSD but you decide you want to run NetBSD on a particular machine and there's no blob? Or much more likely: what if they provide a blob for Linux, but not for FreeBSD? Should they also provide a blob for Plan 9? If the specs are not open, then your choices are limited to what the vendor wants to develop and support. And that's likely to be Windows, and maybe Linux, and maybe maybe FreeBSD. OTOH, if the vendor opens the specs then good, solid drivers can be written for whatever platform. And ported. And if there's a problem it can be fixed. This even turns out to benefit people who don't give a hoot about whether something is free or open or not. My point isn't that I *liked* binary-only drivers ... my point is that I'd rather a company like Adaptec to *at least* supply a binary driver if they require their specs to be closed, then provide *no means* for me to use Adaptec products ... Right now, I personally am being hurt more by having *nothing* from Adaptec, binary or open, then I would be if they'd provide something binary, since under 4.x, the Adaptec driver *was* rock solid, so I felt pretty safe upgrading to 6.x, which turns out was not so smart a move ... How many out there are *still* running 4.x on their servers and desktops, for similar fears? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD = Free Software?
Gábor Kövesdán wrote: if you really only want to use Free Software, have fun with GNU-Hurd ;-) Hurd is purely GPL-ed, while FreeBSD is mostly BSDL-ed. BSDL has almost no restrictions, so I'd rather say FreeBSD is really free, not Hurd. i didn't mean to start a discussion about this, but i just assumed that the original poster was referring to the definition of free software by FSF, which i now realise might not have been the case and your point is interesting imo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
--- Joshua Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a hard question to ask and I realize that there are a thousand answers to this question. I am replacing my XP system with a FreeBSD 6.1 system. I finished installing it last night and cvsuped. Now I need to choose a window manager. There are what seems like hundreds of different WM in the ports collection and there is no way I will be able to find the time to read them all and get any kind of good idea on what each one does. I am hoping a few people form the list could e-mail me what they like and for what reason. I want something lean and fast but I want to have my cake and eat it to because I do want something that is not strait up ugly and is functional. KDE seems like it is bloated so I was considering Gnome. I have also been reading about enlightenment and it sounds interesting. I have looked into Fluxbox and it also seems like it would do the trick. Would I be better off just going with Gnome or KDE? I realize once I start installing apps that I will probably wind up installing something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so I am going to wind up bloating my system any ways right? I know both KDE and fluxbox quite well. They provide two entirely different experiences. Installing KDE will give you applications and a heavy desktop environment (with menus everywhere) while fluxbox will just give you a light window manager. I suggest you go for KDE first just to convince yourself that it is possible to have a Microsoft-like experience within an Open Source OS and then go for fluxbox. If you want something in between KDE and fluxbox then you may want to try XFCE. Of course, there are many more alternatives but these are the ones I have used a fair amount. Peter __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:48:52PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: My point isn't that I *liked* binary-only drivers ... my point is that I'd rather a company like Adaptec to *at least* supply a binary driver if they require their specs to be closed, then provide *no means* for me to use Adaptec products ... Right now, I personally am being hurt more by having *nothing* from Adaptec, binary or open, then I would be if they'd provide something binary, since under 4.x, the Adaptec driver *was* rock solid, so I felt pretty safe upgrading to 6.x, which turns out was not so smart a move ... How many out there are *still* running 4.x on their servers and desktops, for similar fears? Do you see that if support in 4.x had been based on open specs from Adaptec that this issue would not exist? Adaptec is controlling your ability to use their product, and that's the real problem. It's consumer-hostile, unless you fit their perfect picture of consumer. You don't, so you're left in the cold. -- Darrin Chandler| Phoenix BSD Users Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
Peter wrote: --- Joshua Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a hard question to ask and I realize that there are a thousand answers to this question. I am replacing my XP system with a FreeBSD 6.1 system. I finished installing it last night and cvsuped. Now I need to choose a window manager. There are what seems like hundreds of different WM in the ports collection and there is no way I will be able to find the time to read them all and get any kind of good idea on what each one does. I am hoping a few people form the list could e-mail me what they like and for what reason. I want something lean and fast but I want to have my cake and eat it to because I do want something that is not strait up ugly and is functional. KDE seems like it is bloated so I was considering Gnome. I have also been reading about enlightenment and it sounds interesting. I have looked into Fluxbox and it also seems like it would do the trick. Would I be better off just going with Gnome or KDE? I realize once I start installing apps that I will probably wind up installing something that uses Gnome or KDE libraries so I am going to wind up bloating my system any ways right? I know both KDE and fluxbox quite well. They provide two entirely different experiences. Installing KDE will give you applications and a heavy desktop environment (with menus everywhere) while fluxbox will just give you a light window manager. I suggest you go for KDE first just to convince yourself that it is possible to have a Microsoft-like experience within an Open Source OS and then go for fluxbox. If you want something in between KDE and fluxbox then you may want to try XFCE. Of course, there are many more alternatives but these are the ones I have used a fair amount. Peter Something else coming around the turnpike soon for FreeBSD I assume: http://www.xpde.com/ -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gutenprint - postscript - setup check
would you guys please check my setup. I have made it the easiest in the world as far as I can tell. When I send something (other than plain text) to lpr my printer makes some bumping and warmup noises but prints nothing. /etc/printcap: # /etc/printcap epson|lp:\ :sh:\ :sd=/usr/spool/lp:\ :lp=/dev/ulpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/libexec/printfilter:\ :mx#0: /usr/local/libexec/printfilter #!/bin/sh printf \033k2G || exit 2 IFS= read -r first_line /usr/local/bin/gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -q -sDEVICE=ijs \ -sIjsServer=/usr/local/bin/ijsgutenprint.5.0 \ -sDeviceManufacturer=EPSON \ -sDeviceModel=escp2-cx4800 \ -sPAPERSIZE=letter \ -sOutputFile=- - exit 0 exit 2 == Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honor the King of heaven, for all his works are truth, and his ways are justice; and he is able to bring low those who walk in pride. Daniel 4:37 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [TYPO]What I would like to see, or How many FreeBSD boxen are out there?
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 00:52, Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote: IMHO this is the first and oldest one. http://www.netccraft.com it should be http://www.netcraft.com Double oops. -- Aftab Jahan Subedar CEO/Software Engineer Subedar Technologies Ltd Subedar Baag Bibir Bagicha #1 North Jatrabari Dhaka 1204 http://www.DhakaStockExchangeGame.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Configure postfix to forward to isp smtp server?
I am trying to create a home mail gateway. First thing is getting it to relay messages to my ISP as if I had connected directly to the isp in the first place. That is without adding any information to headers to reveal that it went through my smtp server. I also want to create a repositry of sent email for logging purposes. I'm trying to look up the documentation and searching for messages that would answer what I want to do but it's a chicken and egg senerio in that I don't know the correct terms for the answers to search to find the answers. Any help is appreciated. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 20:39, Garrett Cooper wrote: Performance is all relative though, based on what your machine's speed is, how much RAM it has, disk space, etc. I personally abandoned Gnome and KDE approximately 1-2 years ago because I found compiling the packages to be too much of a pain and take too much time to accomplish. I rebuild KDE while I'm running KDE, I've never had a problem doing that. It take about 1 minute of my time, and it doesn't prevent me watching video or burning DVDs or any of the normal things. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configure postfix to forward to isp smtp server?
On Jul 26, 2006, at 5:46 PM, Chris T. wrote: I am trying to create a home mail gateway. First thing is getting it to relay messages to my ISP as if I had connected directly to the isp in the first place. Set: relayhost = [mailserver.isp.net] ...in main.cf. That is without adding any information to headers to reveal that it went through my smtp server. It's a requirement for MTAs to add Received: headers as the mail passes through them to avoid mailing loops. Trying to subvert this is a bad idea... I also want to create a repositry of sent email for logging purposes. I'm trying to look up the documentation and searching for messages that would answer what I want to do but it's a chicken and egg senerio in that I don't know the correct terms for the answers to search to find the answers. Any help is appreciated. Normally, your mail client will keep track of all Sent messages if you configure it properly. That's a better choice than having the MTA do it, but you can look into the content_filter mechanism to archive mail which passes through if you really want to do so. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
vmware
I see there are several versions of vmware in /usr/ports/emulators. Is there any simple way to run a vmware image under freebsd? I'm a vmware newbie and don't really understand the player/server version 2/3 differences. -- Robin Becker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
Darrin Chandler wrote: Do you see that if support in 4.x had been based on open specs from Adaptec that this issue would not exist? Adaptec is controlling your ability to use their product, and that's the real problem. It's consumer-hostile, unless you fit their perfect picture of consumer. You don't, so you're left in the cold. I think you are missing the point here. It is 'THEIR PRODUCT'. They can do with it as they wish. If you are unhappy with their product, then don't use it. Most corporation are primarily interested in profits. Nothing wrong with that. I like making money, as I assume you do. Obviously they have weight the cost of producing FSBD compatible products and concluded that it would not be profitable to do so. Unless you could produce enough evidence to show them otherwise, I fear that you are simply beating a dead horse here. -- Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views ... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering. Doctor Who ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A General Question.
Hi I hope I am directing my question to the correct address. Could you please send me a link to a page numerating contrasting BSD and Linux, i.e. what are the advantages and disadvantages to either system? Thank you in advance, Daniel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
On 2006-07-26 18:59, Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darrin Chandler wrote: Do you see that if support in 4.x had been based on open specs from Adaptec that this issue would not exist? Adaptec is controlling your ability to use their product, and that's the real problem. It's consumer-hostile, unless you fit their perfect picture of consumer. You don't, so you're left in the cold. I think you are missing the point here. It is 'THEIR PRODUCT'. They can do with it as they wish. If you are unhappy with their product, then don't use it. Darrin is not missing the point. He is just making a different point, which is (for many people, including me) quite valid. Most corporation are primarily interested in profits. Nothing wrong with that. I like making money, as I assume you do. Obviously they have weight the cost of producing FSBD compatible products and concluded that it would not be profitable to do so. Unless you could produce enough evidence to show them otherwise, I fear that you are simply beating a dead horse here. If the technical specifications are open, there is *zero* support cost for the hardware vendor. They don't even _have_ to make a driver for their hardware. What they *can* do though is reply to requests for an open source driver with: ``Piss off! We have you the technical specs, so you can write your own. Our development and support costs would not be justified, but here's the spec... give it your best shot.'' *This* is the point Darrin is trying to make :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: any audio wizards know howto store *.smil files?
On 7/26/06, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 26 July 2006 01:31, Gary Kline wrote: Rats. Here's what happened whn I added the two switches to mplayer. Anybody know why the streamm bmbed out?? ... Connecting to server real.npr.org[63.236.6.227]:80 ... Cache size set to 8192 KBytes Connected to server: real.npr.org Cache fill: 7.03% (589824 bytes)Stream EOF detected Cache fill: 7.08% (593920 bytes)REAL file format detected. Stream description: Audio Stream Stream mimetype: audio/x-pn-realaudio Core dumped ;) Exiting... (End of file) In my experience it always does that when a stream has an ending - it doesn't mean it's failed. I see it when recording from the BBC's listen again which streams individual programs, but not on the continuous live-streams. For streams the redirect before playing, mplayer's playlist option as been rather helpful in the past. Basically, use the original url as the playlist, then provide the dumpstream parameters and it will automatically read the redirect. Doesn't always work, but sometimes does. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
help installing FreeBSD
I had similar errors reported when I tried to install FreeBSD from a CDRom drive which was connected to the motherboard with a standard udma(33?) ribbon cable (Yes write errors). Make sure your connectors are the better 80 conductor ones. -- John. Thanks John but how do I do that?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing windows XP at home.
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Joshua Lewis wrote, in part: I am replacing my XP system with a FreeBSD 6.1 system. I finished installing it last night and cvsuped. Now I need to choose a window manager. I want something lean and fast but I want to have my cake and eat it to because I do want something that is not strait up ugly and is functional. Coming in late, I'll second the many motions for xfce4. It's pretty and fast and very accessible for Windows users. It's also fairly easy to customize. Having said that, I personally use fvwm because it seems simpler. Fvwm is just a window manager, not an all-singing, all-dancing desktop environment. I've tried KDE, and it too would be familiar and instantly useable for someone accustomed to Windows. While there's nothing wrong with it, it was a bit too much for my taste. The best idea was, of course, John Nielsen's advice to install several and see what you like. There is information on many window managers at http://xwinman.org/ HTH. -- Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: If the technical specifications are open, there is *zero* support cost for the hardware vendor. They don't even _have_ to make a driver for their hardware. What they *can* do though is reply to requests for an open source driver with: ``Piss off! We have you the technical specs, so you can write your own. Our development and support costs would not be justified, but here's the spec... give it your best shot.'' *This* is the point Darrin is trying to make :) Obviously, everyone has their own take on the subject. The bottom line is that they, meaning the product or software developer, has a legal right to do with their product as they see fit. If their marketing choice does not coincide with yours, then find or create a product that you find more suitable. -- Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A General Question.
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php (good one) http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:30 AM, D W wrote: Hi I hope I am directing my question to the correct address. Could you please send me a link to a page numerating contrasting BSD and Linux, i.e. what are the advantages and disadvantages to either system? Thank you in advance, Daniel. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] !DSPAM:1,44c7f3af6298456127143! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6 Hard Lock no logs
HI, The system completly locks up, attached keyboard is useless.. and as mentioned no errors.. the only pattern is tuesday/wednesday it freezes.. other days of the week it's fine under heavy load.. buildworlds are not a problem.. Rob. Lowell Gilbert wrote: Rob Connon (Info) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I have a web/mail server thats running the lastest version of FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p9 #4. In the last month or so it's started hard locking.. when the machine locks up i can still ping it and get connects from telneting to 80,22,etc sometimes i get a banner and sometimes i dont.. but there are no errors on the console or in the logs. The odd thing is the locking seems to happen within a certain time window (mon,tues) and never end of the week or weekend.. i suspected it could have been a bad cron job but nothing falls into that time frame. As a test i've been rebooting the server everynight to see if that would help the machine get past the begining of the week with out a hang and again this morning even though i rebooted last night at 10pm hung around 9:47am. The machine is a Dell PowerEdge 2550, I've had dell come and replace the MB and have ran all their diagnostics aswell with no errors reported.. I've been reading alot about APIC and ACPI and people having similar issues but nothing that fits the bill... below is the dmesg and output of vmstat -i.. another odd thing is the rate for the CPU timer is extremely high compared to other machines with similar hardware or faster hardware. Any help on where to look next would be awesome. Try a debugging kernel and see if you can break to the debugger after the freeze. If so, youcan look at task states. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
- Original Message - From: Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Nick Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: - Original Message - From: Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Barniskis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nick Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:10 AM Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Burying your head in the sand is a common method used by stupid people that have no answer to the truth. I don't blame you; you guys don't want your employers to know that you've wasted man 1000s of their dollars because you don't know the performance characteristics of the hardware you've recommended. It must be thoroughly embarrassing. [snip] I do agree with Danial that most USERS on this list are burying their heads in the sand on this issue. But I will point out that there isn't really any reason they shouldn't be. What the market wants is features, not speed. And that is what the FreeBSD developers are working on. Features over speed is generally the right equation, yes. But I think you're being too generous to Danial. The quote of his above was in direct response to my assertion that many people refuse to listen to him because he frequently engages in cheap demagogy[1]. He does, but he is also right on this performance point. The truth can always be wrapped more palatably, but I think one of the differences between a system administrator and a user is that a user can't deal with the truth unless it's spoon fed in the nursery, an administrator should be approaching it as a professional, which means ignoring the irrelevant cheap demagogery and ignoring their own preconceptions of how things are supposed to work, and paying attention to the kernels of truth. I have to sort through giant piles of horseshit every time I look at the latest Cisco sales and marketing dreck, to find out what might be important in one of their new products, this isn't any different. And frankly I find the saccherine cloying marketingspeak to be far more disgusting and offensive then the lame kindergarden flames that Danial has so far been able to come up with. His response? Another whole boatload of cheap demagogy, questioning the intelligence, aptitude and moral character of anyone who doesn't listen to him, by way of accusations that are wholly unsupported by facts. I could probably rest my case right there, but I think his perception (and yours) that people are not receptive to claims of FreeBSD performance problems is quite simply false. Every time a performance question is brought up, I see a flurry of calls for clarification and for the formulation of repeatable tests which are generally agreed to be an accurate gauge of the problem. Calling for testing is pretty much a way of excusing the claim. People including Danial, have done the testing in the past, posted the results, then had armchair quarterbacks pick apart the test methodology claiming the tests were done wrong, thus irrelevant. So why even bother doing it anymore. But, you asked for it, you got it: Machine #1: Compaq 1600R, FBSD 6.1 Pentium 3 550Mhz freebsd-cvs# dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 1 17:23:18 PDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERICNOUSBNOFIRE Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (548.54-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x673 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA, CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real memory = 671088640 (640 MB) avail memory = 647458816 (617 MB) MPTable: COMPAQ PROLIANT ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0 ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-34 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 cpu0 on motherboard pcib0: MPTable Host-PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: PCI bus on pcib0 pci0: display, VGA at device 11.0 (no driver attached) pcib1: MPTable PCI-PCI bridge at device 13.0 on pci0 pci1: PCI bus on pcib1 tl0: Compaq Netelligent 10/100 Proliant port 0x3800-0x380f irq 30 at device 7.0 on pci1 miibus0: MII bus on tl0 nsphy0: DP83840 10/100 media interface on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto tlphy0: ThunderLAN 10baseT media interface on miibus0 tlphy0: 10base2/BNC, 10base5/AUI tl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:8b:f1:82:17 sym0: 875 port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xc6ffdf00-0xc6ffdfff,0xc6fff000-0xc6ff irq 23 at device 9.0 on pci1
Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?
- Original Message - From: Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? Giorgos Keramidas wrote: If the technical specifications are open, there is *zero* support cost for the hardware vendor. They don't even _have_ to make a driver for their hardware. What they *can* do though is reply to requests for an open source driver with: ``Piss off! We have you the technical specs, so you can write your own. Our development and support costs would not be justified, but here's the spec... give it your best shot.'' *This* is the point Darrin is trying to make :) Obviously, everyone has their own take on the subject. The bottom line is that they, meaning the product or software developer, has a legal right to do with their product as they see fit. That isn't true. Once I buy their product they have absolutely no right to dictate how I use it, including if I want to reverse engineer it and write my own driver. That has been proven numerous times in courts of law. The problem here is that Adaptec is thinking that they have a right to control DISTRIBUTION of their product BEYOND THE POINT OF SALE. You see, if Adaptec releases a product that uses a blob, or obscured driver, whether it's for FreeBSD or Windows, they know that in all liklihood their product is going to last far longer than they want it to. Adaptec wants you to buy their product, use it in your current OS, then 2 years from now when you update OS's, they want you to toss their perfectly working product in the garbage and buy a new one from them. Lots of other manufacturers do this, Hewlett Packard is famous for it with their all-in-one products, that only run under the Windows OS, lots of those only have drivers for a few versions of Windows, and no driver was ever released for Windows XP. For another example I have a Sceptre SCSI flatbed scanner here that has a TWAIN driver for Windows NT 4 but not for Windows 2K. It's on my wife's system, fortunately she does not use it much but when she does want to use it, I have her system setup to dual-boot. Now you can pontificate all you want on the rights of companies to do this or that with their marketing. But I am not talking legal rights here. If companies only went by the book of what is legal, we would be awash in stock scams, and the SEC would be investigating thousands of CEO's every year. For example, how would you feel if you had a severe peanut allergy and you bought a jar of jelly then had a reaction because in the same factory that the food company packaged jelly, they packaged peanut butter? Some people have peanut allergies that are that severe - no food contact has to occur, simply the fumes from peanuts are enough to set it off. Well companies aren't legally required to disclose if they make a product in the same factory as where they make a peanut product - but they do, I just saw a warning like that on the side of Dairy Queen the other day. Today, it is recognized in the business community that there is such a thing as business ethics and that there are things that are legal to do but are not ethical to do. And most business don't do them, you would probably be surprised to know, simply because they aren't ethical. In just about all customers minds - cept perhaps yours - it isn't ethical for a company to force obsolescense. Hell, even Microsoft realized that with Windows 95. You can still download all the older Windows 95 patches from the Microsoft website if you know where to look, and they stopped supporting that OS years ago. Go look at the automobile industry. You can still buy parts for 20 year old card from the dealers, and 40 year old cars from the aftermarket - do you see the major automakers suing the aftermarket because the aftermarket makes Dexron transmission fluid available that I can use to keep my 1966 Torqueflight on the road? Or how about my wife and her canning stuff. Guess what - you can still buy jar rings and seals for 30 - 40 year old Mason jars. Are the companies that make Mason jars out there doing unethical things like releasing new styles of Mason jars every few years that use different sized mouths so you can't buy seals for them anymore? Bullshit! What Adaptec is doing is unethical. Adaptec used to claim they were doing it to keep competitors from stealing their secrets. Now all their major competitors don't exist anymore (bankrupt or bought by Adaptec). And the older Adaptec cards that are no longer viable products in the market, thus nobody would be interested in stealing their secrets - well why don't Adaptec release programming specs on those now? I don't buy new Adaptec products because of this. If I come across an Adaptec product in a used piece of gear I might try using it - sure. But if it doesen't work, (quite often) I discard it and move on. Until they stop
