RE: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-16 Thread Ian Lord
-Original Message- From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18 To: Jerry McAllister Cc: Oliver Peter; Ian Lord; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs... On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 05:38:15PM -0400, Jerry McAllister

Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-16 Thread Schiz0
On 5/16/07, Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18 To: Jerry McAllister Cc: Oliver Peter; Ian Lord; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs... On Tue, May 15

Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-05-16 03:21, Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18 To: Jerry McAllister Cc: Oliver Peter; Ian Lord; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs

RE: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-16 Thread Ian Lord
Peter'; 'Jerry McAllister'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs... On 2007-05-16 03:21, Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Oliver Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 mai 2007 03:18 To: Jerry McAllister Cc

Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-15 Thread Oliver Peter
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote: ... Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Did you set up your hostname correctly in /etc/rc.conf ? Furthermore you need to tell your MTA how your hostname is called. -- Oliver PETER, email: [EMAIL

Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-15 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 11:26:03PM +0200, Oliver Peter wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:26:36PM -0400, Ian Lord wrote: ... Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? Look in the file /etc/mail/aliases You can alias root to go to your favorite address.

Re: Newbie Question: Mail from from cron jobs...

2007-05-15 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 15 May 2007 12:26:36 -0400 Ian Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [] The problem, is that the mail is coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have a spamfirewall and it rejects the mail saying localhost.mydomain.com is invalid. Where can I change the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] to

Re: newbie amd64 force 32bit nvidia-driver port

2007-04-04 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
B. Cook wrote: Hello all, I'm trying out amd64 on this Dell M90, and it seems to be going great.. *except* the nvidia-drivers port won't compile on amd64.. so I took out the i386 entry in the Makefile and it gets to a part where its linking and gets this: === Building for

Re: newbie amd64 force 32bit nvidia-driver port

2007-04-04 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 10:49:16AM -0400, B. Cook wrote: Hello all, I'm trying out amd64 on this Dell M90, and it seems to be going great.. *except* the nvidia-drivers port won't compile on amd64.. so I took out the i386 entry in the Makefile and it gets to a part where its linking and

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-14 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:44:57 +0100, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why shall you do the double job by installing the FreeBSD, then reinstall it after adding SMP option to kernel? Couldn't we get FreeBSD to install the right kernel based on the number of the cpu(s) in

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-14 Thread Daniel Rudy
At about the time of 2/13/2007 12:07 PM, pete wright stated the following: On 2/13/07, Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday February 13, 2007 at 01:42:23 (PM) pete wright wrote: how would you define correct? have all systems boot with a SMP kernel by default so that machines with

RE: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-14 Thread Thomas Sparrevohn
Subject: Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo? On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:44:57 +0100, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why shall you do the double job by installing the FreeBSD, then reinstall it after adding SMP option to kernel? Couldn't we get FreeBSD to install the right

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-13 Thread Mike Barnard
Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel Core 2 Due processor. nice choice What do i need to do to make sure i'm getting the use of both cores? I read

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-13 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/12/07, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel Core 2 Due

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:23:20AM +0300, Mike Barnard wrote: Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel Core 2 Due processor. nice choice What do

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-13 Thread Brian
This question come sup so often, I believe FreeBSD should do this by default, install the proper kernel unless something different is selected by the user. they will detect your cpus and will install the right kernel to use both cpus Brian ___

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-13 Thread Gerard
On Tuesday February 13, 2007 at 01:42:23 (PM) pete wright wrote: how would you define correct? have all systems boot with a SMP kernel by default so that machines with multiple processors automatically detect all available CPU's? then what about all the users that are using uni-proc

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-13 Thread Robert Huff
Gerard writes: It is also a hugh waste of time. Doing the initial system installation, there should be an option at the very least to enable SMP. Installing a system, then having to rebuilt and and reinstall it again if counter productive. The market is moving toward multiple CPUs.

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-13 Thread Brian
It is also a hugh waste of time. Doing the initial system installation, there should be an option at the very least to enable SMP. Installing a system, then having to rebuilt and and reinstall it again if counter productive. The market is moving toward multiple CPUs. The FBSD installation

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-13 Thread pete wright
On 2/13/07, Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday February 13, 2007 at 01:42:23 (PM) pete wright wrote: how would you define correct? have all systems boot with a SMP kernel by default so that machines with multiple processors automatically detect all available CPU's? then what about

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-13 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2007/02/13 11:02, Brian seems to have typed: the question of smp comes up along with amd64 vs i386 vs ia64. This is documented in the hardware notes though: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware-i386.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware-amd64.html

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-13 Thread Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
On 2/13/07, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is also a hugh waste of time. Doing the initial system installation, there should be an option at the very least to enable SMP. Installing a system, then having to rebuilt and and reinstall it again if counter productive. The market is moving

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-12 Thread Derek Ragona
Create a custom kernel with SMP enabled. -Derek At 11:35 AM 2/12/2007, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel

Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?

2007-02-12 Thread Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri
On 2/12/07, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel Core 2 Due processor. What do i need to do to make

Re: newbie documentation (was: Re: Contributing to FreeBSD documentation (was: Re: no ath0 on new system with good card))

2007-01-21 Thread Steve Franks
I have another section to add to my previous post: At some point in your dealings, you may introduce a typo into a critical startup file, such as rc.conf, loader.conf, fstab, or similar, and reach the following upon reboot: Press enter for /bin/sh: To recover: 0. press enter 1. cd /etc

Re: newbie documentation (was: Re: Contributing to FreeBSD documentation (was: Re: no ath0 on new system with good card))

2007-01-21 Thread Doug Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Franks wrote: I have another section to add to my previous post: At some point in your dealings, you may introduce a typo into a critical startup file, such as rc.conf, loader.conf, fstab, or similar, and reach the following upon reboot:

Re: newbie permissions problems... what's wrong?

2007-01-17 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Jan 17, 2007, at 12:04 AM, Oliver Iberien wrote: I am logged in as oliver. I have two extra partitions mounted. Below is the section of devfs.conf that has to do with them: #Allow access to the second disk own /dev/ad1s2c oliver:wheel perm/dev/ad1s2c 0666 own /disk2

Re: Newbie attempting to install Flamenco (open source, python-based, faceted interface)

2007-01-15 Thread Brett Bonfield
Hello Brett, I'd try posing this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The people that watch that list will probably be more able to help (rather, have more interest in helping you) that those on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, when posting there -- if you haven't done so already -- try changing your subject line to

Re: Newbie NMap in FreeBSD Question

2007-01-15 Thread Dave Grochowski
Hey, It is pretty straightforward: --- cut here --- #!/usr/local/bin/perl exec(nmap 192.168.1.2); --- cut here --- I would just use an sh script for something this simple: --- cut here --- #!/bin/sh nmap 192.168.1.2; --- cut here --- If you want to be able to supply optional arguments, we

Re: Newbie attempting to install Flamenco (open source, python-based, faceted interface)

2007-01-15 Thread Jason Morgan
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 09:19:27AM -0500, Brett Bonfield wrote: Hello Brett, I'd try posing this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The people that watch that list will probably be more able to help (rather, have more interest in helping you) that those on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, when posting there -- if

Re: Newbie attempting to install Flamenco (open source, python-based, faceted interface)

2007-01-14 Thread Jason Morgan
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 10:48:24AM -0500, Brett Bonfield wrote: Hi, I am a library student at Drexel University in Philadelphia, PA. My goal is to aggregate information about the Library and Information Science profession (e.g. conferences, mailing lists, blogs, professional associations,

Re: Newbie Lynx and Mozilla Firefox Questions

2007-01-04 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Jan 04, 2007, linux quest wrote: I have been searching for tutorials for browsing the Internet using Lynx, but can’t seem to find one anywhere. There aren’t any tutorial either in those Unix books that I bought. What command do I need to type to download Lynx and what command I need

Re: Newbie Lynx and Mozilla Firefox Questions

2007-01-04 Thread Steve Franks
lynx is found by running sysinstall, then going to configure-packages-all-lynx. I run firefox with firefox not mozilla. Steve On 1/4/07, linux quest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been searching for tutorials for browsing the Internet using Lynx, but can't seem to find one anywhere. There

Re: Newbie Lynx and Mozilla Firefox Questions

2007-01-04 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 09:42:25AM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote: On Thu, Jan 04, 2007, linux quest wrote: I have been searching for tutorials for browsing the Internet using Lynx, but can’t seem to find one anywhere. There aren’t any tutorial either in those Unix books that I bought. What

Re: Newbie Lynx and Mozilla Firefox Questions

2007-01-04 Thread Andrew Gould
- Original Message From: linux quest [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2007 10:22:25 AM Subject: Newbie Lynx and Mozilla Firefox Questions I have been searching for tutorials for browsing the Internet using Lynx, but can't seem to find one

Re: Newbie on tunnelling

2006-12-14 Thread Chris
The interface configuration looks correct, similar to how i have created a bridge on my box at startup. Ive never needed to setup any routes at startup myself; but adding a single route as you need cant be too hard... sorry i cant be of more help. Sometimes man pages assume knowledge beyond a

Re: Newbie on tunnelling

2006-12-13 Thread Chris
Loading a kernel module at boot time is done by editing (or creating) loader.conf in /boot. And adding [module_name]_load=YES to load a module, so: if_gre_load=YES. Edit rc.conf for startup configurations. Take a look at man rc.conf. The sections on network_interfaces and static_routes will be

Re: Newbie on tunnelling

2006-12-13 Thread Odhiambo Washington
* On 13/12/06 15:48 +, Chris wrote: | Loading a kernel module at boot time is done by editing (or creating) | loader.conf in /boot. And adding [module_name]_load=YES to load a module, | so: if_gre_load=YES. | | Edit rc.conf for startup configurations. Take a look at man rc.conf. The |

Re: Newbie on tunnelling

2006-12-13 Thread Chad Gross
On 12/13/06, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * On 13/12/06 15:48 +, Chris wrote: | Loading a kernel module at boot time is done by editing (or creating) | loader.conf in /boot. And adding [module_name]_load=YES to load a module, | so: if_gre_load=YES. | | Edit rc.conf for

Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-07 Thread John Hoover
there's always the shells, bash for example -- - John F Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any

Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-07 Thread Tyop?
On 10/6/06, John Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there's always the shells, bash for example asciiquarium is a good start. *A Must* -- Tyop? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-07 Thread Jim Stapleton
On 10/6/06, ograbme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like a few recommendations for small ports to try to install on my stand-alone machine. The stand-alone machine does not have connection to the internet; however, I do have a set of four (4)CD from the FreeBSD Mall and two (2) of the CD's

Re: Newbie Question - looking for suggestions of small ports to install on stand-alone system without internet connection

2006-10-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 12:14:29PM -0400, ograbme wrote: I would like a few recommendations for small ports to try to install on my stand-alone machine. The stand-alone machine does not have connection to the internet; however, I do have a set of four (4)CD from the FreeBSD Mall and two

Re: Newbie Experience (As promised)

2006-09-18 Thread Arindam
Dear Very Helpful and Informative FreeBSD List, I installed FreeBSD on Friday Night and tried very hard to get it all working. My initial X problem actually fixed itself (you can imagine my surprise), however, even with that, our computer is useless as a desktop (or anything else) without an

Re: Newbie Experience (As promised)

2006-09-18 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-09-17 12:22, Joel Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Very Helpful and Informative FreeBSD List, I installed FreeBSD on Friday Night and tried very hard to get it all working. My initial X problem actually fixed itself (you can imagine my surprise), however, even with that, our

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-14 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 14 September 2006 01:21, Kevin Brunelle wrote: As for the GNU tools, yes most sysadmins use some of them (although not always).  I know that BSD tar handles gzip and bzip2 just fine ( -z and -j respectively).  So I know I wouldn't download gtar just for that feature. In fact, as I

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-14 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Sep 14, 2006, at 12:29 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Thursday 14 September 2006 01:21, Kevin Brunelle wrote: As for the GNU tools, yes most sysadmins use some of them (although not always). I know that BSD tar handles gzip and bzip2 just fine ( - z and -j respectively). So I know I

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-14 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Thursday 14 September 2006 08:40, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Sep 14, 2006, at 12:29 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: In fact, as I discovered a few days ago (after all, how often does one read tar(1)'s manpage?), you only need to use -z and -j when creating a tar archive.

Re: Newbie Question - what does the ...-p6 mean?

2006-09-14 Thread Bill Moran
In response to ograbme [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello All. Thursday, September 14, 2006, 4:24:43 AM, RJ45 wrote in regards to his message titled Memory problem: snip R I am running FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p6 build with buildworld. snip What does the -p6 nomenclature represent in the

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-13 Thread Kevin Brunelle
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 06:16, Jeff Rollin wrote: I let a lot of BSD comments about Linux go unpunished, but this one has always got me. BSD had to be *almost totally rewritten* to avoid ATT licensing issues... added to the fact that I wouldn't be surprised if it's hard to find a single

Re: Newbie Experience -- Linux/BSD Differences

2006-09-13 Thread Joel Adamson
If I may comment as someone who knows only that BSD looks better to a newbie, it looks better because I only have to go to one place to read the FreeBSD manual. For Linux, there's documentation for all the little parts, and a community/wiki for any particular distribution, except that's a lot

Re: Newbie Experience -- Linux/BSD Differences

2006-09-13 Thread Pablo Mora
On 9/13/06, Joel Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I may comment as someone who knows only that BSD looks better to a newbie, it looks better because I only have to go to one place to read the FreeBSD manual. For Linux, there's documentation for all the little parts, and a community/wiki

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 11/09/06, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 11, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Jeff Rollin wrote: Discussions like these leave me lost for words... Perhaps, although it seems you recovered quickly. :-) Heh. Maybe I ought to have said almost! Which is to say, apart from the occasional

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 11/09/06, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 11, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Jeff Rollin wrote: Discussions like these leave me lost for words... Perhaps, although it seems you recovered quickly. :-) Which is to say, apart from the

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 11/09/06, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Anton Shterenlikht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Needless to say, I was very disappointed. I feel that FreeBSD will never achieve broader acceptance (even with momentum building for alternative OS) among people with modest technical

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-12 Thread backyard
--- Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/09/06, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first installed FreeBSD, circa 2003, version 4.9, the two reasons I chose it over Redhat and Debian were the simplicity of the installation and good manual. The install process

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-12 Thread Graham Bentley
One question I often forget to ask myself is ; What is my end goal ? These days, if I want a non Windows desktop that is quick and easy to install / update I use this ; www.zenwalk.org [400MB .iso] For servers, I use FreeBSD :) Of course, you can use FreeBSD as a desktop machine too ... but

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 12/09/06, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/09/06, backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first installed FreeBSD, circa 2003, version 4.9, the two reasons I chose it over Redhat and Debian were the simplicity of the

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-12 Thread RW
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 11:16, Jeff Rollin wrote: I'm unconvinced you could take FreeBSD 4 box and run the kernel from 6.1 on it without changing anything else. No, but the fact that you upgrade world+kernel in one go helps. FreeBSD also mantains a good level of back-compatibility. The

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-12 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:05, Jeff Rollin wrote: That was my point, that BSD was rewritten from the ground up to avoid ATT patents. So whilst some might consider BSD real unix, it's really only emulating V7 with Berkeley extensions. My understanding was that it was copyright rather than

Re: Newbie Experience #2

2006-09-12 Thread Bob M.
On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 08:46 -0400, Bob Walker wrote: Thanks to *all* who responded to my whining -- you've been great, and I am going to give FreeBSD another try. Apologies to all if I sounded like a twit... I was just eager to try something new as I have had it with MS products. Regards,

Re: Newbie Experience #2

2006-09-12 Thread FreeBSD WickerBill
Must have missed your rant Bob. You may want to check out PC-BSDhttp://www.pcbsd.org, a graphical installer that loads the KDE desktop on completion and rides on FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p2. If your hardware is supported in FreeBSD then it's pretty painless. I dropped Windows at my home over 4 months

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-12 Thread backyard
{expunged the old, typ} I've only been around since FreeBSD 5.4 myself, and found during installs that sysinstall would get confused if you changed your mind and went backwards through the menus to reconfigure options. it seems like the one in 6.1 is a lot better,

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Bill Moran
Bob Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have always wanted to better understand Unix, and so I finally made the decision to switch some of my office PCs over to either a Unix or Linux system. With office suites like OpenOffice, I felt that I would be able to transition away from Windows

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 11/09/06, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have always wanted to better understand Unix, and so I finally made the decision to switch some of my office PCs over to either a Unix or Linux system. With office suites like OpenOffice, I felt that

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Monday 11 September 2006 05:29, Jeff Rollin wrote: On 11/09/06, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have always wanted to better understand Unix, and so I finally made the decision to switch some of my office PCs over to either a

Re: Newbie Experience #2

2006-09-11 Thread Jud
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:46:13 -0400, Bob Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Thanks to *all* who responded to my whining -- you've been great, and I am going to give FreeBSD another try. Apologies to all if I sounded like a twit... I was just eager to try something new as I have had it with MS

FreeBSD installer (was Re: Newbie Experience #2)

2006-09-11 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Monday 11 September 2006 15:56, Jud wrote: everyone who uses FreeBSD knows that a better (meaning, at least to many folks, more simplified and graphical) installer would be nice Perhaps as an option. The problem is that you need to install a graphical environment to run a graphical

Re: FreeBSD installer (was Re: Newbie Experience #2)

2006-09-11 Thread Jud
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:26:33 +0200, Jonathan McKeown [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Monday 11 September 2006 15:56, Jud wrote: everyone who uses FreeBSD knows that a better (meaning, at least to many folks, more simplified and graphical) installer would be nice Perhaps as an option. The

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 05:32:40 -0400 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are a community. We're not Microsoft. We're not interested in driving users away by saying here's everything you need, don't bother us again. Our limited resources are focused on developing the really important parts

Re: FreeBSD installer (was Re: Newbie Experience #2)

2006-09-11 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:26:33 +0200 Jonathan McKeown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 11 September 2006 15:56, Jud wrote: everyone who uses FreeBSD knows that a better (meaning, at least to many folks, more simplified and graphical) installer would be nice Perhaps as an option. The

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Any other related projects to improve the installer? I *KNOW* it isn't the most important part of the system, but every bit counts, and I think that having both a ncurses and a GUI (non-ncurses ;) )based installer would be quite nice and

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 11:42:19PM +0200, Andreas Davour wrote: Too bad you felt it was that horrific. In my experience FreeBSD is sometimes a bit harder than modern Linux distros to install, but are much nicer to maintain and use. I found leaning linux was much harder because there wore

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On 2006 Sep 11, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Any other related projects to improve the installer? I *KNOW* it isn't the most important part of the system, but every bit counts, and I think that having both a ncurses and a GUI (non-ncurses ;)

Re: FreeBSD installer (was Re: Newbie Experience #2)

2006-09-11 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:51:28 +0200 Alex de Kruijff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: absolutely. but you don't need to install anything to run a graphical installer. And, ideally, you wouldn't be forced to have only the graphical installer option, you'd still be able to use the good old ncurses or

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Anton Shterenlikht [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2006 Sep 11, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Any other related projects to improve the installer? I *KNOW* it isn't the most important part of the system, but every bit counts, and I think

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread jan gestre
On 9/11/06, Bob Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have always wanted to better understand Unix, and so I finally made the decision to switch some of my office PCs over to either a Unix or Linux system. With office suites like OpenOffice, I felt that I would be able to transition away

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 11/09/06, jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/11/06, Bob Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have always wanted to better understand Unix, and so I finally made the decision to switch some of my office PCs over to either a Unix or Linux system. With office suites like

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Sep 11, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Jeff Rollin wrote: Discussions like these leave me lost for words... Perhaps, although it seems you recovered quickly. :-) Which is to say, apart from the occasional bug I really don't see what the problem is with sysinstall. Credits: It's highly

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread jdow
From: Alex de Kruijff [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 11:42:19PM +0200, Andreas Davour wrote: Too bad you felt it was that horrific. In my experience FreeBSD is sometimes a bit harder than modern Linux distros to install, but are much nicer to maintain and use. I found leaning

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
Needless to say, I was very disappointed. I feel that FreeBSD will never achieve broader acceptance (even with momentum building for alternative OS) among people with modest technical proficiency and fairly simple requirements (i.e., spreadsheets, word processing, presentations, email).

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Ralph Ellis
On Monday 11 September 2006 2:12 pm, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: Needless to say, I was very disappointed. I feel that FreeBSD will never achieve broader acceptance (even with momentum building for alternative OS) among people with modest technical proficiency and fairly simple

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread backyard
--- Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 11, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Jeff Rollin wrote: Discussions like these leave me lost for words... Perhaps, although it seems you recovered quickly. :-) Which is to say, apart from the occasional bug I really don't see what the

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread backyard
--- Anton Shterenlikht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Needless to say, I was very disappointed. I feel that FreeBSD will never achieve broader acceptance (even with momentum building for alternative OS) among people with modest technical proficiency and fairly simple requirements (i.e.,

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread Jerold McAllister
backyard writes: --- Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 11, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Jeff Rollin wrote: Discussions like these leave me lost for words... Perhaps, although it seems you recovered quickly. :-) Which is to say, apart from the occasional bug I really don't see what

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-11 Thread backyard
--- Jerold McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: backyard writes: --- Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 11, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Jeff Rollin wrote: Discussions like these leave me lost for words... Perhaps, although it seems you recovered quickly. :-)

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-10 Thread Derek Ragona
You are correct that FreeBSD is closer with roots to UNIX. You would have done better to post here first and get some pointers on installation. The basic install is usually easy on supported hardware. X and and GUI like gnome, kde, etc are NOT part of the OS. Unlike other OS's there is no

Re: Newbie Experience

2006-09-10 Thread Kevin Brunelle
In brief, the installation process is just awful. After multiple attempts on an admittedly older machine (Pentium II 266Mhz, 256KB ram, 30GB hard drive, S3 Virge graphics card), I was able to get the FreeBSD OS installed, but could not configure Gnome or KDE properly. The documentation is

Re: newbie. how to compile gcc-4.1.1

2006-09-02 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 10:17:27AM -0400, g wrote: ok, i got a snapshot of the make bootstrap it shows the error. ??? Well, you didn't quite follow my instructions, but you showed enough to see that something is quite odd on your system: srcdir=/usr/ports/gcc-4.1.1/fixincludes /bin/sh

Re: newbie. how to compile gcc-4.1.1

2006-09-02 Thread g
i downloaded the file from gnu. ok, i see the directory. thanks, i will try using the freebsd instruction. g. On Sep 2, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 10:17:27AM -0400, g wrote: ok, i got a snapshot of the make bootstrap it shows the error. ??? Well, you

Re: Newbie: compiled and installed gcc-4.2 but ...

2006-09-02 Thread Sean M.
Use gcc42, g++42, etc. --- g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i compiled and installed gcc-4.2 using the instruction on the FreeBSD web site. thanks to kris, who directed me to /usr/ports/lang/ gcc ... and pointed out there was something unusually wrong with what i had done before. how

Re: Newbie: compiled and installed gcc-4.2 but ...

2006-09-02 Thread g
Thanks, Sean. g. On Sep 2, 2006, at 2:32 PM, Sean M. wrote: Use gcc42, g++42, etc. --- g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i compiled and installed gcc-4.2 using the instruction on the FreeBSD web site. thanks to kris, who directed me to /usr/ports/lang/ gcc ... and pointed out there was

Re: newbie. how to compile gcc-4.1.1

2006-08-31 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 08:21:04PM -0400, g wrote: hi everyone, i'm trying to compile and install gcc-4.1.1 from the port section. errors: Syntax error: redirection unexpected *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/home/g/Applications/gcc-4 ... /build-i386-unknown- freebsd6.1/fixincludes.

Re: Newbie questions

2006-08-23 Thread Ralph Ellis
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 12:37 am, E. Gad wrote: Hello First I was directed to post the here because I posted to the stable mailing list before re-reading what it's purpose is- I apologise-. I am playing with freebsd 6 on a testing box. I Upgraded l from 6.0 to 6.1 because it looked

Re: Newbie questions

2006-08-22 Thread Subhro
Hello, Welcome to the world of FreeBSD. First of all, why are you trying to install binaries? I would say it is wiser to use the port system yourself. However remember to cvsup your ports tree before you start using it to get the required software. Refer to the handbook for understanding how

Re: Newbie questions

2006-08-22 Thread Svein Halvor Halvorsen
Subhro wrote: yourself. However remember to cvsup your ports tree before you start using it to get the required software. Refer to the handbook for understanding how ports work. For most people portsnap would be a better way of updating one's ports tree. Firstly, it's in the base system and

Re: newbie setup

2006-08-10 Thread Jeff Cross
Bruce Greene wrote: Hi — In setting up FreeBSD 6.1, i don't know what group or member groups to choose. Thank you - Bruce Greene Macs Plus 410 764-8599 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.macsplus.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Re: newbie setup

2006-08-10 Thread albi
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:00:27 -0400 Bruce Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In setting up FreeBSD 6.1, i don't know what group or member groups to choose. during the install ? you can put yourself in group staff and if you want to use su - later on, then put yourself in group wheel -- grtjs,

Re: newbie setup

2006-08-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
Bruce Greene wrote: Hi — In setting up FreeBSD 6.1, i don't know what group or member groups to choose. Thank you - Bruce Greene Macs Plus 410 764-8599 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.macsplus.com ___

Re: Newbie question: Is this something I should send to buglist?

2006-07-30 Thread Nicolas Blais
On Sunday 30 July 2006 13:09, Oliver Iberien wrote: After running portsnap this morning: bsd# pkg_version -v /home/oliver/version.txt Makefile, line 54: Could not find /usr/ports/print/cups-lpr/../../print/cups/Makefile.common make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue pkg_version:

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