Re: VMware tools for FreeBSD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/8/13 7:09 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I am running an ESXi 5.1 VMware server, with one FreeBSD (8.3) > guest. > > I am trying to figure how to install the VMware tools: > > - the linux one are working, but I woul prefere a more native > FreeBSD > > - should I install /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guest6d ? It fails > with not finding vmware-guestd. > > - should I install /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-tools6 ? It seems > it needs vmware-guest6d as a prerequisite. > > What else? All documentation I find on the web refers to a > VMwareTools for FreeBSD, that I could not locate. > > Help please. > > Olivier Hi Olivier, If you want to install the official VMware guest tools for FreeBSD, check pages 25-26 in this document: http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vmware-tools-installation-configuration.pdf If you have any further questions, please reply here and we'll go from there. Best of luck, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlGKPtoACgkQ0sRouByUApAhsQCfTH77ZqtdqEpqBNc9brUyUwW8 j/0An3Ho9UW8u+Yp2pTEqnwUzjkiejS1 =r8zT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: VMware tools for FreeBSD
If this is a production server operation VMWare will *only* support you running their list of supported FreeBSD versions and their official VMWare Tools. This means you'll often be left behind several releases with the most recent available being completely abandoned by the FreeBSD project. It's a sad situation that they call this "supported". If you really don't have any concerns about that what you want is emulators/open-vm-tools or emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: VMware & Linux server users Data
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Re: vmware-tools-freebsd && "No drivers for x.org version: 7.6.5."
On Apr 8, 2011, at 5:03 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Friday, April 08, 2011 a las 12:17:03PM +0200, Dimitry Andric escribió: > >> On 2011-04-08 10:42, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>> I have FreeBSD 9-CURRENT up and running in a VMware Workstation 7.x and >>> I tried to install the vmware-tools-freebsd of VMware to get the driver >>> for Xorg, but it seems that X.org 7.6.5. is not supported. My other VM >>> runs a 8-CURRENT with X.org 7.4_1 which works fine. >>> >>> Any idea how to solve this? A co-worker and I recently went through this. Seems the trick is to install xf86-video-vmware-10.16.9 (we are using 8.1-RELEASE), then re-run the vmware-config.pl file that you un-packed from the vmware-tools tarball, then run "X -configure" (as root), then copy /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf (making appropriate backups first, of course). We were able to achieve 1600x1200 resolution. -- Devin >>> Should I go back to X.org 7.4_1 in >>> 9-CURRENT? Or should I fake the vmware-tools installer to see X.org as >>> /.4 while it is 7.6.5? >> >> X.org 7.5 already has VMware drivers, so you can just install the >> x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse and x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware ports. >> >> Alternatively, run "make config" in x11-drivers/xorg-drivers, check the >> "VMMOUSE" and "VMWARE" entries, and rebuild this meta-port. > > Dimitry, > > Thanks for your kind & fast answer; does this also mean that I could > completely get rid of the VMware' vmware-tools-freebsd? I'm using on the > 8-CURRENT system the emulators/open-vom-tools and will install them in > the 9-CURRENT too. > > Thanks again > >matthias > > -- > Matthias Apitz > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware-tools-freebsd && "No drivers for x.org version: 7.6.5."
El día Friday, April 08, 2011 a las 12:17:03PM +0200, Dimitry Andric escribió: > On 2011-04-08 10:42, Matthias Apitz wrote: > >I have FreeBSD 9-CURRENT up and running in a VMware Workstation 7.x and > >I tried to install the vmware-tools-freebsd of VMware to get the driver > >for Xorg, but it seems that X.org 7.6.5. is not supported. My other VM > >runs a 8-CURRENT with X.org 7.4_1 which works fine. > > > >Any idea how to solve this? Should I go back to X.org 7.4_1 in > >9-CURRENT? Or should I fake the vmware-tools installer to see X.org as > >/.4 while it is 7.6.5? > > X.org 7.5 already has VMware drivers, so you can just install the > x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse and x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware ports. > > Alternatively, run "make config" in x11-drivers/xorg-drivers, check the > "VMMOUSE" and "VMWARE" entries, and rebuild this meta-port. Dimitry, Thanks for your kind & fast answer; does this also mean that I could completely get rid of the VMware' vmware-tools-freebsd? I'm using on the 8-CURRENT system the emulators/open-vom-tools and will install them in the 9-CURRENT too. Thanks again matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware-tools-freebsd && "No drivers for x.org version: 7.6.5."
On 08/04/2011 12:17, Dimitry Andric wrote: On 2011-04-08 10:42, Matthias Apitz wrote: I have FreeBSD 9-CURRENT up and running in a VMware Workstation 7.x and I tried to install the vmware-tools-freebsd of VMware to get the driver for Xorg, but it seems that X.org 7.6.5. is not supported. My other VM runs a 8-CURRENT with X.org 7.4_1 which works fine. Any idea how to solve this? Should I go back to X.org 7.4_1 in 9-CURRENT? Or should I fake the vmware-tools installer to see X.org as /.4 while it is 7.6.5? X.org 7.5 already has VMware drivers, so you can just install the x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse and x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware ports. Alternatively, run "make config" in x11-drivers/xorg-drivers, check the "VMMOUSE" and "VMWARE" entries, and rebuild this meta-port. Btw, I have no idea why these drivers are not enabled by default. They would seem very useful in a default X.org installation. Probably because a lot of people do not use VMware products. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Cheers, -- David Demelier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware-tools-freebsd && "No drivers for x.org version: 7.6.5."
On 2011-04-08 10:42, Matthias Apitz wrote: I have FreeBSD 9-CURRENT up and running in a VMware Workstation 7.x and I tried to install the vmware-tools-freebsd of VMware to get the driver for Xorg, but it seems that X.org 7.6.5. is not supported. My other VM runs a 8-CURRENT with X.org 7.4_1 which works fine. Any idea how to solve this? Should I go back to X.org 7.4_1 in 9-CURRENT? Or should I fake the vmware-tools installer to see X.org as /.4 while it is 7.6.5? X.org 7.5 already has VMware drivers, so you can just install the x11-drivers/xf86-input-vmmouse and x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware ports. Alternatively, run "make config" in x11-drivers/xorg-drivers, check the "VMMOUSE" and "VMWARE" entries, and rebuild this meta-port. Btw, I have no idea why these drivers are not enabled by default. They would seem very useful in a default X.org installation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware-guestd6: error during make install
El día Friday, September 03, 2010 a las 12:53:35PM -0700, Rob Farmer escribió: > Assuming you aren't in a US export restricted country (Cuba, Iran, > North Korea, Sudan, and Syria) I should be able to give you a legal > copy. ... Rob, Thanks for this. Btw: It's a pity that I'm not in Cuba, I'm living in the cold and rainy Germany :-) Meanwhile I have updated the port emulators/open-vm-tools to version 253928 which compiles, installs and works just fine in my system. The vmware driver for Xorg gives you a lot of very high resolutions which hides all the Win shit behind the FreeBSD VM. I could also solve the sound problem. In VMware you need the driver snd_es137x. I need this for Skype. I still have to figure out how my USB video cam will work, the rest works now again as it was working in the real laptop. Thanks again for your help matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware-guestd6: error during make install
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 06:01, Matthias Apitz wrote: > I tried to install the vmware-freebsd-tools.tar.gz directly as > VMWare.com it provides (I have compat6x already installed for some other > reason). But in vmware-freebsd-tools.tar.gz there are only kernel > modules for FreeBSD 6 and 7 and using the modules for 7 it crashes, ofc. > > Who can I get the tools installed? My EULA says: 3.4 VMware Tools. You may distribute the VMware Tools to any third party provided that (i) you only distribute the VMware Tools as a whole in object code format whether or not as part of, the Virtual Machine you create with the Software; (ii) you do not use VMware's name, logo or trademarks to market the VMware Tools, except you may refer to VMware names, logos or trademarks to indicate that the VMware Tools are compatible with or designed for use with the Software and (iii) you agree to indemnify, hold harmless, and defend VMware from and against any claims or lawsuits, including attorneys' fees, that arise or result from your use or distribution of VMware Tools. Notwithstanding the foregoing, you may distribute and modify the Open Source Software of VMware Tools; however, VMware may not provide any support, pursuant to Section 5, for such modified VMware Tools. Assuming you aren't in a US export restricted country (Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria) I should be able to give you a legal copy. This is the ISO that ships with Workstation 7.1.1 build-282343. It has kernel modules for 8.0 i386 & amd64. http://www.predatorlabs.net/dl/vmware-tools-freebsd-711.iso -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware-guestd6: error during make install
El día Friday, September 03, 2010 a las 08:51:08AM -0400, Glen Barber escribió: > Hi, > > On 9/3/10 4:31 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > >>> I'm trying to install the port /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6 (even > >>> the freshest from FreeBSD server) in 8-CURRENT: > >> > >> Do you have a particular reason for using this port? Assuming you mean > >> 8.X, > > > > My FreeBSD is a CVS 8-CURRENT from May 2009 to be exactly, i.e. after > > 8-RELEASE but before 8.1. > > > > 9-CURRENT was after 8.0-RELEASE. Can you provide the output of 'uname -a'? Of course: g...@current:~> uname -a FreeBSD current.Sisis.de 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #5: Sun Jan 10 09:55:14 CET 2010 g...@current.sisis.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 g...@current:~> ls -l /usr/src/CVS total 8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 654 28 may 2009 Entries -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel4 19 may 2009 Repository -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 51 19 may 2009 Root -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 660 19 may 2009 Template As I said, the kernel and user land is based on what was in CVS in May 2009. Later I incorparated some new USB stuff, that's why the build is from Januar 2010. I tried to install the vmware-freebsd-tools.tar.gz directly as VMWare.com it provides (I have compat6x already installed for some other reason). But in vmware-freebsd-tools.tar.gz there are only kernel modules for FreeBSD 6 and 7 and using the modules for 7 it crashes, ofc. Who can I get the tools installed? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware-guestd6: error during make install
Hi, On 9/3/10 4:31 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>> I'm trying to install the port /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6 (even >>> the freshest from FreeBSD server) in 8-CURRENT: >> >> Do you have a particular reason for using this port? Assuming you mean >> 8.X, > > My FreeBSD is a CVS 8-CURRENT from May 2009 to be exactly, i.e. after > 8-RELEASE but before 8.1. > 9-CURRENT was after 8.0-RELEASE. Can you provide the output of 'uname -a'? Regards, -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
emulators/open-vm-tools do not compile (was: Re: vmware-guestd6: error during make install)
El día Friday, September 03, 2010 a las 10:31:43AM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: > The VM is a VMware player 3.0.0 which says about itself > Workstation 6.5-7.0 in the overview about the VM setup for FreeBSD; > is this fine enough for the emulators/open-vm-tools? > emulators/open-vm-tools does not compile: ... cc -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Werror -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -fstack-protector -std=iso9899:1999 -fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c vfsops.c vfsops.c:118: error: conflicting types for 'VMBlockVFSMount' vfsops.c:70: error: previous declaration of 'VMBlockVFSMount' was here vfsops.c:259: error: conflicting types for 'VMBlockVFSUnmount' vfsops.c:74: error: previous declaration of 'VMBlockVFSUnmount' was here vfsops.c:343: error: conflicting types for 'VMBlockVFSRoot' vfsops.c:71: error: previous declaration of 'VMBlockVFSRoot' was here vfsops.c:379: error: conflicting types for 'VMBlockVFSStatFS' vfsops.c:73: error: previous declaration of 'VMBlockVFSStatFS' was here vfsops.c:389:64: error: macro "VFS_STATFS" passed 3 arguments, but takes just 2 vfsops.c: In function 'VMBlockVFSStatFS': vfsops.c:389: error: 'VFS_STATFS' undeclared (first use in this function) vfsops.c:389: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once vfsops.c:389: error: for each function it appears in.) vfsops.c: At top level: vfsops.c:429: error: conflicting types for 'VMBlockVFSSync' vfsops.c:72: error: previous declaration of 'VMBlockVFSSync' was here *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools/work/open-vm-tools-2009.03.18-154848/modules/freebsd/vmblock. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools/work/open-vm-tools-2009.03.18-154848/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools/work/open-vm-tools-2009.03.18-154848. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools. Thanks for a hint matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware-guestd6: error during make install
El día Friday, September 03, 2010 a las 01:14:00AM -0700, Rob Farmer escribió: > On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 00:59, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to install the port /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6 (even > > the freshest from FreeBSD server) in 8-CURRENT: > > Do you have a particular reason for using this port? Assuming you mean > 8.X, My FreeBSD is a CVS 8-CURRENT from May 2009 to be exactly, i.e. after 8-RELEASE but before 8.1. > the Tools that ship on this iso with Vmware will work (assuming > your copy of vmware isn't too old) if you install misc/compat6x or you > can try emulators/open-vm-tools (open sourced copy of Vmware Tools > that you build). The VM is a VMware player 3.0.0 which says about itself Workstation 6.5-7.0 in the overview about the VM setup for FreeBSD; is this fine enough for the emulators/open-vm-tools? Thanks for your hint in any case matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware-guestd6: error during make install
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 00:59, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > Hello, > > I'm trying to install the port /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6 (even > the freshest from FreeBSD server) in 8-CURRENT: Do you have a particular reason for using this port? Assuming you mean 8.X, the Tools that ship on this iso with Vmware will work (assuming your copy of vmware isn't too old) if you install misc/compat6x or you can try emulators/open-vm-tools (open sourced copy of Vmware Tools that you build). If you meant 9-CURRENT, things may be more difficult since Vmware only ships binaries for releases and open-vm-tools is marked broken on current. -- Rob Farmer > > current# pwd > /usr/ports/emulators > current# mv vmware-guestd6 vmware-guestd6.old > current# tar xzf ~guru/vmware-guestd6.tar.gz > current# cd vmware-guestd6 > current# make > ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found > > > Choose "VM" -> "Install VMware Tools..." from VMware Workstation > menu to connect VM's CD-ROM drive and installation CD image temporary. > Press "Install" button when a dialog pops up. > > > This port mounts /dev/acd0 to /mnt. > > Are you ready? [Y/n]: y > /bin/mkdir -p /mnt > /sbin/umount /mnt 2>&1 >/dev/null > umount: /mnt: not a file system root directory > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > /sbin/umount /dev/acd0 2>&1 >/dev/null > umount: /dev/acd0: unknown file system > *** Error code 1 (ignored) > /sbin/mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /mnt > ===> Extracting for vmware-guestd-6.0.3.80004_2 > /sbin/umount /mnt > (cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/work; /usr/bin/tar xf > /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/work/vmware-tools-distrib/lib/modules/source/vmmemctl.tar) > ===> Patching for vmware-guestd-6.0.3.80004_2 > LC_ALL=C /usr/bin/sed -i.bak "`/usr/bin/printf > 's|\0152\013\0350|\0152\\\n\0350|g'`" > /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/work/vmware-tools-distrib/lib/sbin32-6/vmware-checkvm > sed: > /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6/work/vmware-tools-distrib/lib/sbin32-6/vmware-checkvm: > No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware-guestd6. > > there is no directory work/vmware-tools-distrib/lib/sbin32-6 but only > work/vmware-tools-distrib/lib/sbin32-63 > > creating a symlink helps a bit but later it can't find vmware-guestd for > installation which is not there, i.e. not in the tar file of the > vmware-tools; > > Any ideas? > > matthias > > -- > Matthias Apitz > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ > Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! > ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- Rob Farmer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware and freebsd 8
for the record - if anybody's interested... http://communities.vmware.com/thread/249774;jsessionid=79E1617AEC857E6B51C29539AD294AC9?tstart=0 kalin m wrote: so installed the open-vmware-tools-nox11 package... the vsphere ( the client interface) detects it but it says VMWare Tools: Unmanaged. any idea what that means? i did try to install from source off the sourceforge site without x and some other stuff but it's broken. thanks... kalin m wrote: awesome... thanks to all replies... i'll try the nox11 also.. those machines are only intended as servers so guis are not necessary... thanks... Kevin Wilcox wrote: On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack wrote: We've always used the open-vm-tools port (/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11). There is both an x11 and "nox11" version, both of which work very well. It also includes a handful of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver. If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl (memory ballon driver), then you can build with "-DWITHOUT_DNET -DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE" to eliminate a few more dependencies. Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!! kmw ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware and freebsd 8
so installed the open-vmware-tools-nox11 package... the vsphere ( the client interface) detects it but it says VMWare Tools: Unmanaged. any idea what that means? i did try to install from source off the sourceforge site without x and some other stuff but it's broken. thanks... kalin m wrote: awesome... thanks to all replies... i'll try the nox11 also.. those machines are only intended as servers so guis are not necessary... thanks... Kevin Wilcox wrote: On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack wrote: We've always used the open-vm-tools port (/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11). There is both an x11 and "nox11" version, both of which work very well. It also includes a handful of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver. If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl (memory ballon driver), then you can build with "-DWITHOUT_DNET -DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE" to eliminate a few more dependencies. Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!! kmw ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware and freebsd 8
awesome... thanks to all replies... i'll try the nox11 also.. those machines are only intended as servers so guis are not necessary... thanks... Kevin Wilcox wrote: On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack wrote: We've always used the open-vm-tools port (/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11). There is both an x11 and "nox11" version, both of which work very well. It also includes a handful of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver. If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl (memory ballon driver), then you can build with "-DWITHOUT_DNET -DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE" to eliminate a few more dependencies. Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!! kmw ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware and freebsd 8
On 28 July 2010 09:12, Steve Polyack wrote: > We've always used the open-vm-tools port > (/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11). There is both an x11 and > "nox11" version, both of which work very well. It also includes a handful > of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver. > > If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl > (memory ballon driver), then you can build with "-DWITHOUT_DNET > -DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE" to eliminate a few more dependencies. Steve - that's excellent advice. I'll try out open-vm-tools-nox11 on one of my VMs this afternoon and see how it goes. Thanks!! kmw -- A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware and freebsd 8
On 07/28/10 09:05, Kevin Wilcox wrote: On 28 July 2010 00:47, kalin m wrote: so the question is which vmware tools should i get for the fbsd 8 guests to go with the esxi 4.1. in the ports there are vmware-tools6, 5, 4, 3. tried six. it wants some disk. there is also the open-vmware-tools. is that open one better to play with the esxi 4.1 an the vmsphere thing? I install vmware-guestd6 from ports so I can eliminate all of the X libraries getting installed. ESXi should come with a freebsd.iso file that you can use for the tools install (I'm not one of our ESX administrators so I can't speak definitively but I did get an ISO from them for the tools installation). We've always used the open-vm-tools port (/usr/ports/emulators/open-vm-tools-nox11). There is both an x11 and "nox11" version, both of which work very well. It also includes a handful of other drivers and modules, including the memory balloon driver. If you only intend on using the vmware-guestd, vmxnet, and/or vmmemctl (memory ballon driver), then you can build with "-DWITHOUT_DNET -DWITHOUT_ICU -DWITHOUT_FUSE" to eliminate a few more dependencies. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware and freebsd 8
On 28 July 2010 00:47, kalin m wrote: > messing around with vmware and fbsd 8... > > has anybody used vmware esxi 4 to put a bunch of fbsd machines on it? > i also installed the vmsphere client (they call it) which is pretty nice > interface to interact with the virtual machines but apparently doesn't know > much on how to install vmware tools on a bsd guest. We use paid-for ESX, not ESXi, but that shouldn't make a difference. FreeBSD 8 and ESX play great together, at least in my circumstances. Setups are pretty generic - minimal installs + ports with different VMs for subversion, apache, postgresql, OSSEC, netflow collectors, snort and even a few virtual FreeBSD firewalls. Overall I couldn't be more pleased. > so the question is which vmware tools should i get for the fbsd 8 guests to > go with the esxi 4.1. in the ports there are vmware-tools6, 5, 4, 3. tried > six. it wants some disk. there is also the open-vmware-tools. is that open > one better to play with the esxi 4.1 an the vmsphere thing? I install vmware-guestd6 from ports so I can eliminate all of the X libraries getting installed. ESXi should come with a freebsd.iso file that you can use for the tools install (I'm not one of our ESX administrators so I can't speak definitively but I did get an ISO from them for the tools installation). > also is there anything better than vmware for virtualization that plays nice > and with fbsd? The rumour is that FreeBSD does great as Xen domU but then you have to have a Linux or Windows dom0 (perhaps Mac OS X would work, too?). I'm doing a CentOS install right now, specifically to try FreeBSD under Xen. As someone else mentioned, VirtualBox and FreeBSD get along great though I'm not entirely sure *I* would use it for a production environment. I ran VirtualBox on a FreeBSD host with FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Linux, Windows XP and Windows 7 Ultimate guests and my issues were minimal. It's the only virtualisation software installed on this workstation. kmw -- A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware and freebsd 8
I haven't used vmware so I can't say if it's better but it didn't take me long to get freebsd up and running with virtualbox. Just follow the instructions at http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox You do have to install /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions/ on the guest. I got FreeBSD 8.1 and PC-BSD 8.1 both up and running on it. I'm having some sound issues but other than that it works great, in fullscreen mode you can't even tell it's running as a guest on a host machine. On 7/27/2010 9:47 PM, kalin m wrote: hi all... messing around with vmware and fbsd 8... has anybody used vmware esxi 4 to put a bunch of fbsd machines on it? i also installed the vmsphere client (they call it) which is pretty nice interface to interact with the virtual machines but apparently doesn't know much on how to install vmware tools on a bsd guest. so the question is which vmware tools should i get for the fbsd 8 guests to go with the esxi 4.1. in the ports there are vmware-tools6, 5, 4, 3. tried six. it wants some disk. there is also the open-vmware-tools. is that open one better to play with the esxi 4.1 an the vmsphere thing? also is there anything better than vmware for virtualization that plays nice and with fbsd? thanks... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: VMWare ESX and FBSD 7.2 AMD64 guest
> From: Dean Weimer > Subject: RE: VMWare ESX and FBSD 7.2 AMD64 guest > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: st...@ibctech.ca > Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 10:49 AM [snip] > servers while running between datacenters. Also keep > in mind that as of vSphere 4 (We will be upgrading to this > once the new data center is complete, just waiting on the > shipment of the racks at this point), VMware does officially > support FreeBSD 7.1, so you might want to go with that > instead of 7.2, as there may be a performance issue with Awesome news! That's teach me to keep shuttling the nearly-spam I get from VMware into the trash can right away. I'd love to hear about your experience with the upgrade and how things go later. We're looking to do something very similar sometime in the next 6 to 9 months. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: VMWare ESX and FBSD 7.2 AMD64 guest
Richard Mahlerwein wrote: > If I recall correctly from ESX (well, VI) training*, there may be a minor > scheduling issue affecting things here. If you set up the VM with 4 > processors, ESX schedules time on the CPU only when there's 4 things to > execute (well, there's another time period it also uses, so even a single > thread will get run eventually, but anyway...). The physical instance will > run one thread immediately even if there's nothing else waiting, whereas the > VM will NOT execute a single thread necessarily immediately. I would retry > using perhaps -j8 or even -j12 to make sure the 4 CPUs see plenty of work to > do and see if the numbers don't slide closer to one another. > > For what it's worth, if there were a raw LUN available and made available to > the VM, the disk performance of that LUN should very nearly match native > performance, because it IS native performance. VMWare (if I understood right > in the first place and remember correctly as well, I supposed I should * this > as well. :) ) doesn't add anything to slow that down. Plugging in a USB > drive to the Host and making it available to the guest would also be at > native USB/drive speeds, assuming you can do that (I've never tried to use > USB drives on our blade center!). I've isolated the problem to the SATA RAID system (or subsystem). Booting from CD/USB key and running a wide array of bench tests, I can not read from the RAID setup faster than 10MBps. Regardless of anything else, this is my priority. RAID 0 is the only config where I can read faster than ~7MBps. The board does not have any standard IDE interfaces, and I don't have any PCIe-IDE cards that aren't in use, so I can't really bypass the HP RAID card. I will however slap a 200GB USB drive against the box, and see if I can get faster performance from USB than I can the native SATA setup. FWIW, I do have the battery backed cache installed... Steve smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: VMWare ESX and FBSD 7.2 AMD64 guest
> From: John Nielsen > Subject: Re: VMWare ESX and FBSD 7.2 AMD64 guest > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: "Steve Bertrand" > Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 10:22 AM > On Thursday 23 July 2009 19:44:15 > Steve Bertrand wrote: > > This message has a foot that has nearly touched down > over the OT > > borderline. > > > > We received an HP Proliant DL360G5 collocation box > yesterday that has > > two processors, and 8GB of memory. > > > > All the client wants to use this box for is a single > instance of Windows > > web hosting. Knowing the sites the client wants to > aggregate into IIS, I > > know that the box is far over-rated. > > > > Making a long story short, they have agreed to allow > us to put their > > Windows server inside of a virtual-ized container, so > we can use the > > unused horsepower for other vm's (test servers etc). > > > > My problem is performance. I'm only willing to make > this box virtual if > > I can keep the abstraction performance loss to <25% > (my ultimate goal > > would be 15%). > > > > The following is what I have, followed by my benchmark > findings: > > > > # 7.2-RELEASE AMD64 > > > > FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 07:18:07 UTC > 2009 > > r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > > > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU > 5150 @ 2.66GHz (2666.78-MHz > > K8-class CPU) > > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = > 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 > > > > usable memory = 8575160320 (8177 MB) > > avail memory = 8273620992 (7890 MB) > > > > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7: > > Did you give the VM 4 virtual processors as well? How much > RAM did it have? > What type of storage does the server have? Did the VM just > get a .vmdk on > VMFS? What version of ESX? > > > Benchmarks: > > > > # time make -j4 buildworld (under vmware) > > > > 5503.038u 3049.500s 1:15:46.25 > 188.1% 5877+1961k 3298+586716io 2407pf+0w > > > > # time make -j4 buildworld (native) > > > > 4777.568u 992.422s 33:02.12 291.1% > 6533+2099k 25722+586485io 3487pf+0w > > Note that the "user" time is within your 15% margin (if you > round to the > nearest percent). The system time is what's running away. > My guess is that > that is largely due to disk I/O and virtualization of same. > What you can do > to address this depends on what hardware you have. Giving > the VM a raw > slice/LUN/disk instead of a .vmdk file may improve matters > somewhat. If you > do use a disk file be sure that it lives on a stripe (or > whatever unit is > relevant) boundary of the underlying storage. Ways to do > that (if any) depend > on the storage. Improving the RAID performance, etc. of the > storage will > improve your benchmark overall, and may or may not narrow > the divide. > > The (virtual) storage driver (mpt IIRC) might have some > parameters you could > tweak, but I don't know about that off the top of my head. > > > ...both builds were from the exact same sources, and > both runs were > > running with the exact same environment. I was > extremely careful to > > ensure that the environments were exactly the same. > > > > I'd appreciate any feedback on tweaks that I can make > (either to VMWare, > > or FreeBSD itself) to make the virtualized environment > much more efficient. > > See above about storage. Similar questions come up > periodically; searching the > archives if you haven't already may prove fruitful. You may > want to try > running with different kernel HZ settings for instance. > > I would also try to isolate the performance of different > components and > evaluate their importance for your actual intended load. > CPU and RAM probably > perform like you expect out of the box. Disk and network > I/O won't be as > close to native speed, but the difference and the impact > are variable > depending on your hardware and load. > > A lightly-loaded Windows server is the poster child of > virtualization > candidates. If your decision is to dedicate the box to > Winders or to > virtualize and use the excess capacity for something else I > would say it's a > no-brainer if the cost of ESX isn't a factor (or if ESXi > gives you similar > performance)
Re: VMWare ESX and FBSD 7.2 AMD64 guest
John Nielsen wrote: On Thursday 23 July 2009 19:44:15 Steve Bertrand wrote: I'd appreciate any feedback on tweaks that I can make (either to VMWare, or FreeBSD itself) to make the virtualized environment much more efficient. See above about storage. Similar questions come up periodically; searching the archives if you haven't already may prove fruitful. You may want to try running with different kernel HZ settings for instance. You should certainly try setting both kern.hz and vfs.read_max in the FreeBSD VM. I would recommend: In loader.conf: kern.hz=100 In /etc/sysctl.conf: vfs.read_max=32 You may also try increasing vfs.hirunningspace. I've had good results with setting it to 32MB on write-intensive systems. Tuning vfs.read_max can give some boosts to physical-hardware FreeBSD systems as well. -Steve Polyack ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: VMWare ESX and FBSD 7.2 AMD64 guest
> This message has a foot that has nearly touched down over the OT > borderline. > > We received an HP Proliant DL360G5 collocation box yesterday that has > two processors, and 8GB of memory. > > All the client wants to use this box for is a single instance of > Windows > web hosting. Knowing the sites the client wants to aggregate into IIS, > I > know that the box is far over-rated. > > Making a long story short, they have agreed to allow us to put their > Windows server inside of a virtual-ized container, so we can use the > unused horsepower for other vm's (test servers etc). > > My problem is performance. I'm only willing to make this box virtual if > I can keep the abstraction performance loss to <25% (my ultimate goal > would be 15%). > > The following is what I have, followed by my benchmark findings: > > # 7.2-RELEASE AMD64 > > FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 07:18:07 UTC 2009 > r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5150 @ 2.66GHz (2666.78-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 > > usable memory = 8575160320 (8177 MB) > avail memory = 8273620992 (7890 MB) > > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7: > > Benchmarks: > > # time make -j4 buildworld (under vmware) > > 5503.038u 3049.500s 1:15:46.25 188.1% 5877+1961k 3298+586716io > 2407pf+0w > > # time make -j4 buildworld (native) > > 4777.568u 992.422s 33:02.12 291.1%6533+2099k 25722+586485io 3487pf+0w > > ...both builds were from the exact same sources, and both runs were > running with the exact same environment. I was extremely careful to > ensure that the environments were exactly the same. > > I'd appreciate any feedback on tweaks that I can make (either to > VMWare, > or FreeBSD itself) to make the virtualized environment much more > efficient. > > Off-list is fine. > > Cheers, > > Steve I haven't actually done any benchmarks to compare the performance, but I have been running production FreeBSD servers on VMware for a couple of years. I currently have two 6.2 systems running CUPS, one on VMware Server, and the other on ESX 3.5. I also have a 7.0 system and two 7.1 systems running Squid on ESX 3.5 as well. The thing that I noticed as the biggest bottle neck for any guest within VMware is the Disk I/O (with the exception of video which isn't an issue for a server). Compiling software does take longer, because of this, however if you tune your disks properly the performance under real application load doesn't seem to be an issue. Using soft updates on the file system seems to help out a lot, but be aware of the consequences. That being said, on the Systems I have running squid we average 9G of traffic a day on the busiest system with about 11% cache hit rate, These proxies sit close to idle after hours. Looking at the information from systat -vmstat, the system is almost idle during the day under the full load as well, you just can't touch FreeBSD with only 2 DSL lines for web traffic. Its faster than the old native system was, however there is an iSCSI SAN behind the ESX server for disk access, and we went from a Dell PowerEdge 850 to a Dell PowerEdge 2950. It does share that server with around 15 or more other servers (Mostly windows, some Linux) depending on the current load. Which brings us to another point, It seems to do just fine when VMware VMotion moves it between servers. Not sure if this information helps you out any, but my recommendation would be that if your application will be very disk intensive, avoid the Virtual machine. In my case with the Squid, gaining the redundancy of the VMware coupled with VMotion was worth the potential hit in performance. As we are soon implementing a second data center across town that will house additional VMware servers and thanks to a 10G fiber ring, will allow us to migrate servers while running between datacenters. Also keep in mind that as of vSphere 4 (We will be upgrading to this once the new data center is complete, just waiting on the shipment of the racks at this point), VMware does officially support FreeBSD 7.1, so you might want to go with that instead of 7.2, as there may be a performance issue with 7.2, but it's also just as likely that it was a timing issue on releases that 7.1 is supported and 7.2 isn't. As of ESXi 4.0 (released 5-21-2009), I believe it has the same code base as vSphere 4, so the same guests should be supported. Thanks, Dean Weimer Network Administrator Orscheln Management Co ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: VMWare ESX and FBSD 7.2 AMD64 guest
John Nielsen wrote: > On Thursday 23 July 2009 19:44:15 Steve Bertrand wrote: >> My problem is performance. I'm only willing to make this box virtual if >> I can keep the abstraction performance loss to <25% (my ultimate goal >> would be 15%). >> usable memory = 8575160320 (8177 MB) >> avail memory = 8273620992 (7890 MB) >> >> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs >> cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 >> cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 >> cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 >> cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7: > > Did you give the VM 4 virtual processors as well? How much RAM did it have? > What type of storage does the server have? Did the VM just get a .vmdk on > VMFS? What version of ESX? I gave it all four procs to use, and all available memory. See below about storage system. > The system time is what's running away. My guess is that > that is largely due to disk I/O and virtualization of same. What you can do > to address this depends on what hardware you have. Giving the VM a raw > slice/LUN/disk instead of a .vmdk file may improve matters somewhat. If you > do use a disk file be sure that it lives on a stripe (or whatever unit is > relevant) boundary of the underlying storage. Ways to do that (if any) depend > on the storage. Improving the RAID performance, etc. of the storage will > improve your benchmark overall, and may or may not narrow the divide. The storage system is the following, with 512MB cache. I'm trying to figure out if the cache has a battery backup installed, as I've read that disk performance could be affected without it. kernel: ciss0: With six Fujitsu MHW2120BS 120GB 5.4k SATA laptop drives. After performing multiple in-OS and outside-of-OS benchmark tests, the maximum read speed I can achieve is ~7MBps. Before I reconfigured the machine from the default RAID6 to RAID1+0, I was capped at ~5. This is certainly a huge bottleneck. I'm not impressed in any way with that type of performance, when a lesser system that I have running FBSD 7.2 and ZFS can achieve ~160MBps. I know the drives are only 5.4k, but ~7MB just isn't right. I'm off to see what we can do about that. Thanks John, Steve smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: VMWare ESX and FBSD 7.2 AMD64 guest
On Thursday 23 July 2009 19:44:15 Steve Bertrand wrote: > This message has a foot that has nearly touched down over the OT > borderline. > > We received an HP Proliant DL360G5 collocation box yesterday that has > two processors, and 8GB of memory. > > All the client wants to use this box for is a single instance of Windows > web hosting. Knowing the sites the client wants to aggregate into IIS, I > know that the box is far over-rated. > > Making a long story short, they have agreed to allow us to put their > Windows server inside of a virtual-ized container, so we can use the > unused horsepower for other vm's (test servers etc). > > My problem is performance. I'm only willing to make this box virtual if > I can keep the abstraction performance loss to <25% (my ultimate goal > would be 15%). > > The following is what I have, followed by my benchmark findings: > > # 7.2-RELEASE AMD64 > > FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 07:18:07 UTC 2009 > r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5150 @ 2.66GHz (2666.78-MHz > K8-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 > > usable memory = 8575160320 (8177 MB) > avail memory = 8273620992 (7890 MB) > > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7: Did you give the VM 4 virtual processors as well? How much RAM did it have? What type of storage does the server have? Did the VM just get a .vmdk on VMFS? What version of ESX? > Benchmarks: > > # time make -j4 buildworld (under vmware) > > 5503.038u 3049.500s 1:15:46.25 188.1% 5877+1961k 3298+586716io 2407pf+0w > > # time make -j4 buildworld (native) > > 4777.568u 992.422s 33:02.12 291.1%6533+2099k 25722+586485io 3487pf+0w Note that the "user" time is within your 15% margin (if you round to the nearest percent). The system time is what's running away. My guess is that that is largely due to disk I/O and virtualization of same. What you can do to address this depends on what hardware you have. Giving the VM a raw slice/LUN/disk instead of a .vmdk file may improve matters somewhat. If you do use a disk file be sure that it lives on a stripe (or whatever unit is relevant) boundary of the underlying storage. Ways to do that (if any) depend on the storage. Improving the RAID performance, etc. of the storage will improve your benchmark overall, and may or may not narrow the divide. The (virtual) storage driver (mpt IIRC) might have some parameters you could tweak, but I don't know about that off the top of my head. > ...both builds were from the exact same sources, and both runs were > running with the exact same environment. I was extremely careful to > ensure that the environments were exactly the same. > > I'd appreciate any feedback on tweaks that I can make (either to VMWare, > or FreeBSD itself) to make the virtualized environment much more efficient. See above about storage. Similar questions come up periodically; searching the archives if you haven't already may prove fruitful. You may want to try running with different kernel HZ settings for instance. I would also try to isolate the performance of different components and evaluate their importance for your actual intended load. CPU and RAM probably perform like you expect out of the box. Disk and network I/O won't be as close to native speed, but the difference and the impact are variable depending on your hardware and load. A lightly-loaded Windows server is the poster child of virtualization candidates. If your decision is to dedicate the box to Winders or to virtualize and use the excess capacity for something else I would say it's a no-brainer if the cost of ESX isn't a factor (or if ESXi gives you similar performance). If that's already a given and your decision is between running a specific FreeBSD instance on the ESX host or on its own hardware then you're wise to spec out the performance differences. HTH, JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: vmware tools for ESX Server 3.5
On Thursday 04 September 2008, B. Cook wrote: > On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:11 PM, John Nielsen wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 September 2008, B. Cook wrote: > >> I am setting up FreeBSD 7.0 and he is asking about the vmware-tools. > >> > >> Ports has some things, but I am not sure what I need, and neither > >> is he. > >> > >> Can anyone tell me what it needs? > > > > I usually create VM's with the Intel gigabit vNIC's which can use > > FreeBSD's "em" driver. Since Xorg includes the vmmouse and vmware > > video > > drivers already, the main things you should be looking for are the > > memory "balloon" driver and the guestd service. In the past I have > > gotten > > these to work by using the supplied tools (on the CD image that > > is "inserted" when you select "Install VMware tools" from the host). > > However it is much easier nowadays to use the free version in > > ports/emulators/open-vm-tools (or open-vm-tools-nox11). > > > > JN > > Well this is the other way.. > > FreeBSD is the guest not the host. What I said applies to FreeBSD running as a guest VM. (You don't install VMware tools on a host.) > This is what the owner of the cluster is telling me: > > The tools aren't absolutely necessary but if we can we always install > them in guest machines. > They allow the VMWare server to gracefully shutdown the guest That's guestd. The VMware-supplied version actually does a "shutdown -h" for power-down. On Linux that works but on FreeBSD it simply halts the OS so you have to power down the VM yourself. The open-vm-tools power down correctly. > improve > memory management That's the "balloon" memctl driver. It actually improves memory management for the host by asking the guest (where it is running) to feed it available memory, which the host can then allocate to other VM's if needed. > replace the virtual NIC with a higher performance > one That applies to the vmxnet/lance type of virtual NIC. I've heard of people getting the VMware-supplied driver running under FreeBSD, but I've never messed with it. The le(4) driver does fine. Or you can do as I suggested and switch your virtual NIC to an intel one (which is the default for 64-bit VM's, may require editing the .vmx file for 32-bit VM's) which will use the em(4) driver. > replace the video driver (if you are running a GUI which we > aren't in this case.) The "vmware" video driver is already included in current versions of Xorg, as is the "vmmouse" input driver which will synch the mouse pointer with the viewer's external session and release the cursor when it reaches the edge. > etc I think he covered just about everything. :) > But this machine is running fine, including the nightly snapshots. I would still advise you to install some form of VMware tools. Again my preferences is for open-vm-tools. > Below is the dmesg from the guest: > le0: port 0x1400-0x147f irq 18 at device 17.0 on pci0 > le0: 16 receive buffers, 4 transmit buffers > le0: Ethernet address: 00:50:56:83:49:9d You may want to look at switching to the Intel virtual nic in the VM's configuration. (You would then also need to change any ifconfig_le0 entries in the guest's /etc/rc.conf to ifconfig_em0). For Workstation (and IIRC it's the same for Server and ESX) you do this by changing (or adding) a line like this: ethernet0.virtualDev = "e1000" in the config (.vmx) file for the VM. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware tools for ESX Server 3.5
On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:11 PM, John Nielsen wrote: On Wednesday 03 September 2008, B. Cook wrote: I am setting up FreeBSD 7.0 and he is asking about the vmware-tools. Ports has some things, but I am not sure what I need, and neither is he. Can anyone tell me what it needs? I usually create VM's with the Intel gigabit vNIC's which can use FreeBSD's "em" driver. Since Xorg includes the vmmouse and vmware video drivers already, the main things you should be looking for are the memory "balloon" driver and the guestd service. In the past I have gotten these to work by using the supplied tools (on the CD image that is "inserted" when you select "Install VMware tools" from the host). However it is much easier nowadays to use the free version in ports/emulators/open-vm-tools (or open-vm-tools-nox11). JN Well this is the other way.. FreeBSD is the guest not the host. This is what the owner of the cluster is telling me: The tools aren't absolutely necessary but if we can we always install them in guest machines. They allow the VMWare server to gracefully shutdown the guest, improve memory management, replace the virtual NIC with a higher performance one, replace the video driver (if you are running a GUI which we aren't in this case.) etc But this machine is running fine, including the nightly snapshots. Below is the dmesg from the guest: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p2 #0: Fri Jul 11 15:42:07 EDT 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5450 @ 3.00GHz (2992.58-MHz 686- class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x10678 Stepping = 8 Features = 0xfebfbff < FPU ,VME ,DE ,PSE ,TSC ,MSR ,PAE ,MCE ,CX8 ,APIC ,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS> Features2=0x82211> AMD Features=0x2010 AMD Features2=0x1 real memory = 536870912 (512 MB) avail memory = 511385600 (487 MB) ACPI APIC Table: MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Jul 11 2008 15:39:33) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1050-0x105f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 7.3 (no driver attached) vgapci0: port 0x1060-0x106f mem 0xf800-0xfbff,0xf400-0xf47f at device 15.0 on pci0 mpt0: port 0x1080-0x10ff mem 0xf480-0xf4800fff irq 17 at device 16.0 on pci0 mpt0: [ITHREAD] mpt0: MPI Version=1.2.0.0 le0: port 0x1400-0x147f irq 18 at device 17.0 on pci0 le0: 16 receive buffers, 4 transmit buffers le0: Ethernet address: 00:50:56:83:49:9d le0: [ITHREAD] acpi_acad0: on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: [ITHREAD] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A sio1: [FILTER] fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc-0xc7fff,0xca000-0xcafff, 0xdc000-0xd,0xe-0xe3fff pnpid ORM on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: on ppc0 ppbus0: [ITHREAD] plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ppc0: [ITHREAD] sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2992580145 Hz quality 800 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. acd0: CDROM at ata0-master UDMA33 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle da0 at mpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 3.300MB/s transfers da0: Command Queueing Enabled da0: 20480MB (41943040 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2610C) Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a __
Re: vmware tools for ESX Server 3.5
On Wednesday 03 September 2008, B. Cook wrote: > I am setting up FreeBSD 7.0 and he is asking about the vmware-tools. > > Ports has some things, but I am not sure what I need, and neither is he. > > Can anyone tell me what it needs? I usually create VM's with the Intel gigabit vNIC's which can use FreeBSD's "em" driver. Since Xorg includes the vmmouse and vmware video drivers already, the main things you should be looking for are the memory "balloon" driver and the guestd service. In the past I have gotten these to work by using the supplied tools (on the CD image that is "inserted" when you select "Install VMware tools" from the host). However it is much easier nowadays to use the free version in ports/emulators/open-vm-tools (or open-vm-tools-nox11). JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware timekeeping
Uwe Laverenz wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 04:23:41PM -0400, Jeff Dickens wrote: option turned on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have "hint.apic.0.disabled=1" in my FreeBSD guest's /boot/loader.conf. This shouldn't be necessary in FreeBSD >= 6.2. hmm. I used to have "kern.hz=100" in loader.conf, but that caused the guest to gain time even faster. "100" is ok, I'm using this value on all virtual machines. Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config? Is it possible to upgrade your ESX from 3.0.2 to 3.5x? If not, there is another setting on the ESX side that helps with timing problems (FreeBSD or Linux guests): change "Advanced Settings/Misc/Misc.Timer/MinHardPeriod" from 400 to 100 (this is default on ESX 3.5x). Unfortunately IBM has not certified my hardware (xSeries 226) with ESX 3.5, and the installation just hangs, so I'm stuck on 3.0.2 for now. Thanks, I will try that suggestion. Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware timekeeping
Sean Cavanaugh wrote: Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:48:46 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: vmware timekeeping At 03:23 p.m. 06/06/2008, you wrote: I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-release as a guest on VMware ESX 3.0.2. My problem is that the clock keeps *gaining* time. I have the "timesync" option turned on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have "hint.apic.0.disabled=1" in my FreeBSD guest's /boot/loader.conf. I used to have "kern.hz=100" in loader.conf, but that caused the guest to gain time even faster. Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Hello all. Here is something similar. Running 6.2 stable... but the clock lose around 6 hours each day JB The only good way of keeping time pretty set is to set up an NTP sync on the image to go off at decently constant rate (once every 3 hours or so). the vmware-tools will not synchronize the system clock. The tools do attempt to improve timekeeping if you put tools.syncTime = "TRUE" in the guest's .vmx file. However, the tools will only move the time forward. It is attempting to compensate for "lost ticks". Without using syncTime the guest's clock can run slow, depending on the host's overall load. With syncTime on, my Linux guest machines stay synchronized perfectly. Well, they're within one second anyway, which is fine for my application. The recipe for this success was to turn on syncTime, and use the following linux boot options: clock=pit nosmp noapic nolapic However, I have not been able to achieve the same success with FreeBSD. The clock doesn't lose time, but it gains time, very slowly. It's probably load dependent, but it's around 10 seconds a day. What's the FreeBSD equivalent of "clock=pit" ? Meaning to use the PIT and not the APIC. In general, but also in this application in particular, one does not one time to move backwards. The Dovcot IMAP server immediately exits if it detects that time went backwards. In order to use NTP, you'd probably have to turn off syncTime, which probably does a better job anyway except for the gaining time problem. I haven't tried actually running ntpd instead of a periodic sync, as this is not recommended by VMware's timekeeping white paper: http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vmware_timekeeping.pdf. My last-ditch strategy will be to start monkeying with the knobs for syncTime, like these: timeTracker.catchupPercentage timeTracker.catchupIfBehindByUsec timeTracker.giveupIfBehindByUsec But I'd rather fix it the same way I have with Linux. I heard of someone trying to change the clock in BSD to only use the hardware clock as VMWare can reset that but never heard anything beyond that. -Sean___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware timekeeping
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:30:27 -0400 > Peter Thoenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> confabulated: > >> > I run FreeBSD 7.0 inside VMware Workstation-6.0.4 (ACE Edition) and >> > I don't have to setup anything. The time is the always same as the >> > host >> >> How long do you keep it up though Odhiambo and how intensive are you >> using your native OS? I have a similar setup and while it sync's on >> boot, I routinely lose 15 minutes a day (I keep it up 24x7). I think >> it is not so much a bug in VMware as opposed to the host OS running >> slower than it thinks (e.g. maybe a second of OS time is really >> 1.01 seconds of real time adding up over long periods) if the >> native OS is under moderate to heavy use. > > I'm running FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE within Vmware v6.0.4 build 93057 with > the host OS being XP-Home-SP2. I also have two jails running within the > FreeBSD VM. > > I have within /boot/loader.conf: > kern.hz="50" Oh, this explains why I never has issues with time. I always have kern.hz="100" in loader.conf and I run ntpdate on startup. Sorry if I mislead others. -- EB White - "Genius is more often found in a cracked pot than in a whole one." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware timekeeping
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:30:27 -0400 Peter Thoenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> confabulated: > > I run FreeBSD 7.0 inside VMware Workstation-6.0.4 (ACE Edition) and > > I don't have to setup anything. The time is the always same as the > > host > > How long do you keep it up though Odhiambo and how intensive are you > using your native OS? I have a similar setup and while it sync's on > boot, I routinely lose 15 minutes a day (I keep it up 24x7). I think > it is not so much a bug in VMware as opposed to the host OS running > slower than it thinks (e.g. maybe a second of OS time is really > 1.01 seconds of real time adding up over long periods) if the > native OS is under moderate to heavy use. I'm running FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE within Vmware v6.0.4 build 93057 with the host OS being XP-Home-SP2. I also have two jails running within the FreeBSD VM. I have within /boot/loader.conf: kern.hz="50" And within root's crontab: PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin @reboot ntpdate us.pool.ntp.org I do not have the Vmware tools loaded. Nor do I have ntpd running. Time has not been a big issue. The host OS (XP) is used more than average for the irreplaceable Windoe$ software I have yet to find replacements for native to FreeBSD. I just decided to do an ntpdate and here are the results: plz# ntpdate -b us.pool.ntp.org 7 Jun 17:04:06 ntpdate[57748]: step time server 208.53.158.34 offset 2.433443 sec plz# uptime 4:59PM up 6 days, 18:47, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- "If at first you don't succeed, so much for skydiving!" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware timekeeping
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Peter Thoenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I run FreeBSD 7.0 inside VMware Workstation-6.0.4 (ACE Edition) and I >> don't have to setup anything. The time is the always same as the host > > How long do you keep it up though Odhiambo and how intensive are you using > your native OS? I have a similar setup and while it sync's on boot, I > routinely lose 15 minutes a day (I keep it up 24x7). I think it is not so > much a bug in VMware as opposed to the host OS running slower than it thinks > (e.g. maybe a second of OS time is really 1.01 seconds of real time > adding up over long periods) if the native OS is under moderate to heavy > use. I keep mine running non-stop (as long as the host OS is running)). I never shut down my workstation at all, unless stupid Windows install some updates and reboots itself. And besides FreeBSD, there are other guest OSes installed, but these others are run once in a while, and would be on for 2 days or so. I've never realized any time loss. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware timekeeping
I run FreeBSD 7.0 inside VMware Workstation-6.0.4 (ACE Edition) and I don't have to setup anything. The time is the always same as the host How long do you keep it up though Odhiambo and how intensive are you using your native OS? I have a similar setup and while it sync's on boot, I routinely lose 15 minutes a day (I keep it up 24x7). I think it is not so much a bug in VMware as opposed to the host OS running slower than it thinks (e.g. maybe a second of OS time is really 1.01 seconds of real time adding up over long periods) if the native OS is under moderate to heavy use. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware timekeeping
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Jeff Dickens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-release as a guest on VMware ESX 3.0.2. My problem > is that the clock keeps *gaining* time. I have the "timesync" option turned > on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have "hint.apic.0.disabled=1" in my FreeBSD > guest's /boot/loader.conf. > > I used to have "kern.hz=100" in loader.conf, but that caused the guest to > gain time even faster. > > Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config? I run FreeBSD 7.0 inside VMware Workstation-6.0.4 (ACE Edition) and I don't have to setup anything. The time is the always same as the host OS. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware timekeeping
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 04:23:41PM -0400, Jeff Dickens wrote: > option turned on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have "hint.apic.0.disabled=1" > in my FreeBSD guest's /boot/loader.conf. This shouldn't be necessary in FreeBSD >= 6.2. > I used to have "kern.hz=100" in loader.conf, but that caused the guest > to gain time even faster. "100" is ok, I'm using this value on all virtual machines. > Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config? Is it possible to upgrade your ESX from 3.0.2 to 3.5x? If not, there is another setting on the ESX side that helps with timing problems (FreeBSD or Linux guests): change "Advanced Settings/Misc/Misc.Timer/MinHardPeriod" from 400 to 100 (this is default on ESX 3.5x). Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: vmware timekeeping
> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:48:46 -0500 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: vmware timekeeping > > At 03:23 p.m. 06/06/2008, you wrote: >>I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-release as a guest on VMware ESX 3.0.2. My >>problem is that the clock keeps *gaining* time. I have the >>"timesync" option turned on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have >>"hint.apic.0.disabled=1" in my FreeBSD guest's /boot/loader.conf. >> >>I used to have "kern.hz=100" in loader.conf, but that caused the >>guest to gain time even faster. >> >>Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config? >> >>Thanks. >>___ >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > Hello all. > > Here is something similar. Running 6.2 stable... but the clock lose > around 6 hours each day > > JB > The only good way of keeping time pretty set is to set up an NTP sync on the image to go off at decently constant rate (once every 3 hours or so). the vmware-tools will not synchronize the system clock. I heard of someone trying to change the clock in BSD to only use the hardware clock as VMWare can reset that but never heard anything beyond that. -Sean___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware timekeeping
At 03:23 p.m. 06/06/2008, you wrote: I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-release as a guest on VMware ESX 3.0.2. My problem is that the clock keeps *gaining* time. I have the "timesync" option turned on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have "hint.apic.0.disabled=1" in my FreeBSD guest's /boot/loader.conf. I used to have "kern.hz=100" in loader.conf, but that caused the guest to gain time even faster. Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Hello all. Here is something similar. Running 6.2 stable... but the clock lose around 6 hours each day JB ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Vmware/Xorg blues
kevin kempter wrote: On Jun 4, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Manolis Kiagias wrote: kevin kempter wrote: Hi All; This seems to be more of a lib not found than a vm issue: I've done this: 1) installed freeBSD 7 in vmware fusion (v 1.1.3) 2) selected to install vmware tools from the menu 3) logged into the console as root 4) mounted the vmware virtual cd 5) copied the vmware tools tar.gz file to /tmp 6) expanded the vmware tools tar.gz file in /tmp 7) cd to the new vmware-toold-distrib dir and ran ./vmware-install.pl Then I get this: Before running VMware Tools for the first time you need to configure it by invoking the following command: "/usr/local/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl". Do you want this program to invoke the command for you now? [yes] /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "lib.so.6" not found, required by "vmware-checkvm" /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "lib.so.6" not found, required by "vmware-checkvm" /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "lib.so.6" not found, required by "vmware-checkvm" This configuration program is to be executed in a virtual machine. Execution aborted. I also tried starting KDE and in a Konsole terminal window (as root) running /usr/local/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl and I get the same results Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks in advance... Funny thing, I was doing the same steps today in vmware workstation ;) Had the same problems, and the following is the solution: Install the compat6x port. Seems the vmware tools are for the 6.X version of FreeBSD, not native 7. As root: cd /usr/ports/misc/compat6x make install clean Also, create the following symbolic link (This is where vmware searches for the library): ln -s /usr/local/lib/compat/libc.so.6/lib Thanks for the advice, this allowed me to install the vmware tools. I had the vm in such a state that I thought it best to start from scratch, so I did the following: 1) installed freeBSD7 into a new VM 2) Followed the steps above to install the compat6x lib and created the link to /lib 3) installed the vmware-tools 4) ran the vmware-config (/usr/local/bin/vmware-config-tools.pl) 5) installed kde via pkg_add -r kde 6) created a .xinitrc for root like this: echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc 7) tried to start kde by running startx and I get an error that the driver "vmware" in the xorg config file does not exist. I've attached the log from my attempt to start kde (Xorg.0.log) - from /var/log and my xorg.conf file (from /etc/X11) Thanks in advance for any help... /Kevin Ok, the xorg-vmware driver is not by default selected to be built in the xorg port, and as the pre-built packages use the default options, you are simply trying to use a driver you have not installed. As the vmware driver does not seem to exist as a package, compile it from ports: cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xf86-video-vmware make install clean And you should be on your way. However I would suggest you create (and possibly edit) your own xorg.conf file: X -configure (This make get you a blank screen on vmware, it does it to me everytime, in this case just ssh in from somewhere else and reboot the machine, or press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and blindly type 'reboot') Test your settings with X -configure /root/xorg.conf.new Edit the file and make any necessary changes, and move it to the final location: mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf You can get more info on all the above in the X11 chapter of the FreeBSD Handbook, in the configuration section: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
David Robillard wrote: Basically the only reason I have for using VM Tools is for the ability of Vmotion and such with our ESX Server farm. It's really the only benefit that the VM tools will give me on FreeBSD as all my virtual machines which are running FreeBSD are servers and don't use any GUI's either. Currently there is nothing that doesn't run correctly under VMWare and I have not seen any lack of performance or anything compared to a physical machine. Maybe if enough of us push to have the VMWare Tools developed and certified for use with VMWare that they might actually get started. I might develop some sort of E-Petition for it, what you think? Why not? I'm in the exact same position as you are with ESX & FreeBSD. Hence I'd love to have VMWare Tools developed and certified for use with FreeBSD. Actually, I'd really like to see VMWare Server and Player certified for FreeBSD i386 and amd64. VMWare is great stuff, I use and support all of it, but as a company they have a bit of Fortune 500 tunnel vision. Their pricing is geared towards nickel and diming large enterprises and their software support is geared too much towards Windows. Hyper-V will cut deeply into their market and they might regret being too MS-centered. I already have potential customers asking "Gee, what about Hyper-V. It's a lot cheaper than ESX and we don't really care about non-MS..." Pricing ESX enterprise (with all the bells & whistles, including vmotion, virtual center, HA, etc) at around US$500 per node and providing better support for FreeBSD and other alternative OSes would go a LONG way towards long-term competitiveness. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
> Basically the only reason I have for using VM Tools is for the ability > of Vmotion and such with our ESX Server farm. It's really the only > benefit that the VM tools will give me on FreeBSD as all my virtual > machines which are running FreeBSD are servers and don't use any GUI's > either. > > Currently there is nothing that doesn't run correctly under VMWare and I > have not seen any lack of performance or anything compared to a physical > machine. Maybe if enough of us push to have the VMWare Tools developed > and certified for use with VMWare that they might actually get started. > > I might develop some sort of E-Petition for it, what you think? Why not? I'm in the exact same position as you are with ESX & FreeBSD. Hence I'd love to have VMWare Tools developed and certified for use with FreeBSD. Actually, I'd really like to see VMWare Server and Player certified for FreeBSD i386 and amd64. David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
Jeff Dickens wrote: I just made a copy of /usr/lib/vmware/isoimages/freebsd.iso from VMware Server v1.0.4 under a different name, and moved it to the ESX server. Then I mounted that ISO as a virtual cdrom on the freebsd guest, untarred the tools and ran the install script. It seems to work fine. A couple of provisos: I don't use X windows on any of my FreeBSD systems, and the vmxnet accelerated virtual network adapter does not work properly. I use the e1000 adapter instead. It wouldn't be a bad idea to comment out the 'vmxnet_load="YES"' line from /boot/loader.conf, but it doesn't seem to cause problems just being loaded. Furthermore, I don't use any of the virtualcenter features like vmotion, etc. I use freebsd guests for small-footprint servers, for example a dhcp and dnscache server with 512MB disk and 32MB ram. Jeff, Basically the only reason I have for using VM Tools is for the ability of Vmotion and such with our ESX Server farm. It's really the only benefit that the VM tools will give me on FreeBSD as all my virtual machines which are running FreeBSD are servers and don't use any GUI's either. Currently there is nothing that doesn't run correctly under VMWare and I have not seen any lack of performance or anything compared to a physical machine. Maybe if enough of us push to have the VMWare Tools developed and certified for use with VMWare that they might actually get started. I might develop some sort of E-Petition for it, what you think? Terry signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
I just made a copy of /usr/lib/vmware/isoimages/freebsd.iso from VMware Server v1.0.4 under a different name, and moved it to the ESX server. Then I mounted that ISO as a virtual cdrom on the freebsd guest, untarred the tools and ran the install script. It seems to work fine. A couple of provisos: I don't use X windows on any of my FreeBSD systems, and the vmxnet accelerated virtual network adapter does not work properly. I use the e1000 adapter instead. It wouldn't be a bad idea to comment out the 'vmxnet_load="YES"' line from /boot/loader.conf, but it doesn't seem to cause problems just being loaded. Furthermore, I don't use any of the virtualcenter features like vmotion, etc. I use freebsd guests for small-footprint servers, for example a dhcp and dnscache server with 512MB disk and 32MB ram. Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Dickens Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 5:17 AM To: Terry Sposato; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD I use the vmware tools for freebsd from the free vmware server product for my esx-hoster freebsd servers. Did you have to do anything special to build and install them? Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Dickens > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 5:17 AM > To: Terry Sposato; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD > > > I use the vmware tools for freebsd from the free vmware server > product for my esx-hoster freebsd servers. Did you have to do anything special to build and install them? Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
I use the vmware tools for freebsd from the free vmware server product for my esx-hoster freebsd servers. The good people at vmware are apparently not interested in adding "official" freebsd support to esx. -Original Message- From: Terry Sposato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 2:23 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD Hi, Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port vmware-tools to FreeBSD. As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our FreeBSD servers follow as well. It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another reason? Not being a developer myself was just wondering if this has been tackled and if it is being incorporated somewhere in the future? Regards, Terry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 05:52:27PM +1100, Terry Sposato wrote: > Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port > vmware-tools to FreeBSD. I don't know if somebody is actually preparing an official port of http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net/ but I don't think it's too difficult to compile and run them on FreeBSD 7.0. I hope I'll find the time to test this soon but I wouldn't be able to roll a port without some help. :) > As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are > being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our FreeBSD servers > follow as well. If you're using FreeBSD 6.x, you can use the vmware-tools that come with VMware server 1.04. I tested them with 6.2/amd64 and 6.3/amd64 and they work fine (vmmemctl.ko and vmware-guestd), including VMotion. > It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to > FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another reason? Not No, it's not a licensing issue, since vmware-tools are released as open source now. I guess it's simply lack of interest and that there aren't many ESX users who are using FreeBSD as a platform. FreeBSD is not an "enterprise" system, you know... :-/ Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Boosten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:29 AM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Terry Sposato; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD > > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Are you asking if FreeBSD can be made to run the ESX software so that > > a FreeBSD server can virtualize multiple systems, or are you asking > > if an ESX server can create a virtual machine that FreeBSD can run in? > > > > If your using the commercial ESX product I would assume you would be > > using it on it's own "bare metal" product incarnation which I think > > uses a hacked-up version of Linux (without a compiler or any other > > normal Linux tools). In that case I do not see why you would have > > a problem running multiple FreeBSD virtual servers on the ESX > > server. > > > > That's not what OP is asking. He wants to run FreeBSD as VM in ESX. > There's currently no support from VMWare for FreeBSD, but it runs anyway. > I figured that was what he was asking, but we should probably hear from him to make sure that this is really what he was asking. Unfortunately, the original post was either from someone who didn't use English as their native language, or they are paying for their Internet connection by-the-byte and were trying to make the question as short as possible, as a result, the entire meaning of the post was lost. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Are you asking if FreeBSD can be made to run the ESX software so that a FreeBSD server can virtualize multiple systems, or are you asking if an ESX server can create a virtual machine that FreeBSD can run in? If your using the commercial ESX product I would assume you would be using it on it's own "bare metal" product incarnation which I think uses a hacked-up version of Linux (without a compiler or any other normal Linux tools). In that case I do not see why you would have a problem running multiple FreeBSD virtual servers on the ESX server. That's not what OP is asking. He wants to run FreeBSD as VM in ESX. There's currently no support from VMWare for FreeBSD, but it runs anyway. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Terry Sposato > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 10:52 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD > > > Hi, > > > > Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port > vmware-tools to FreeBSD. > > As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are > being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our > FreeBSD servers > follow as well. > > > > It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to > FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another > reason? Not > being a developer myself was just wondering if this has been > tackled and if > it is being incorporated somewhere in the future? > Are you asking if FreeBSD can be made to run the ESX software so that a FreeBSD server can virtualize multiple systems, or are you asking if an ESX server can create a virtual machine that FreeBSD can run in? If your using the commercial ESX product I would assume you would be using it on it's own "bare metal" product incarnation which I think uses a hacked-up version of Linux (without a compiler or any other normal Linux tools). In that case I do not see why you would have a problem running multiple FreeBSD virtual servers on the ESX server. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware FreeBSD to Physical
Milosh Djuric wrote: > Hi, > > The rsync method sounds interesting. Could you give me a quick summary > of what I'd need to do? > Please don't top post. You can see what I mean about using rsync in this way at http://mark.foster.cc/wiki/index.php/Xen_Clone -- Said one park ranger, 'There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.' Mark D. Foster, CISSP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://mark.foster.cc/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware FreeBSD to Physical
Hi, The rsync method sounds interesting. Could you give me a quick summary of what I'd need to do? Thanks. On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:56:23 +1030, Mark D. Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Milosh Djuric wrote: Hi, I've got a VMWare guest running FreeBSD 6.2 which I'd like to move to a physical machine. I've tried ghosting it, but when it gets to the "Default: F5 Disk0" screen (sorry, I don't know the appropriate name for it), it refuses to go any further. Can anything be done to fix this? Or is there a better way of doing the whole procedure? See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-trouble.html#Q2.11.3.3. Were I in your shoes I would make sure to run (revert to?) a GENERIC kernel in the VM then use g4u to image the entire drive(s). But this will only work if the destination drive is larger than the source. There are many things that can go wrong in this sort of procedure and you should plan to be cunning and persistent or fail in your attempts. It may be that you are using the wrong approach also, because rsync can be a wonderful alternative for these types of scenarios as can knoppix + dd + netcat. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware FreeBSD to Physical
Milosh Djuric wrote: > Hi, > > I've got a VMWare guest running FreeBSD 6.2 which I'd like to move to > a physical machine. I've tried ghosting it, but when it gets to the > "Default: F5 Disk0" screen (sorry, I don't know the appropriate name > for it), it refuses to go any further. > > Can anything be done to fix this? Or is there a better way of doing > the whole procedure? See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-trouble.html#Q2.11.3.3. Were I in your shoes I would make sure to run (revert to?) a GENERIC kernel in the VM then use g4u to image the entire drive(s). But this will only work if the destination drive is larger than the source. There are many things that can go wrong in this sort of procedure and you should plan to be cunning and persistent or fail in your attempts. It may be that you are using the wrong approach also, because rsync can be a wonderful alternative for these types of scenarios as can knoppix + dd + netcat. -- Said one park ranger, 'There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.' Mark D. Foster, CISSP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://mark.foster.cc/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware FreeBSD to Physical
"Milosh Djuric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I've got a VMWare guest running FreeBSD 6.2 which I'd like to move to a > physical machine. I've tried ghosting it, but when it gets to the > "Default: F5 Disk0" screen (sorry, I don't know the appropriate name for > it), it refuses to go any further. > > Can anything be done to fix this? Or is there a better way of doing the > whole procedure? VMWare has a tool specifically for doing this. Don't remember what it's called, but I expect it will give you the best results. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware Player 2 Linux on 6.2-RELEASE
CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: Unless the two machines have identical CPUs with identical capabilities, this will likely end in failure. Operating systems aren't happy having their CPUs switch capabilities or instruction sets between one cycle and the next. I hadn't considered that. I assumed VMware "virtualised" the CPU, so that hot-swapping would be possible without a panic. You mean it allows direct access to the CPU? builder# dmesg | head | grep CPU: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz (2008.36-MHz 686-c So it does. Didn't notice that. Oh well, I can just start the VM on the slower machine. :) Adam J Richardson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware Player 2 Linux on 6.2-RELEASE
Adam J Richardson wrote: > I'm doing this because it'd be nice if I could suspend the VM, copy it > to USB stick, transfer it to BSD and start it again, so I could use the > Windows box for playing a game or watching a movie while the make runs. Unless the two machines have identical CPUs with identical capabilities, this will likely end in failure. Operating systems aren't happy having their CPUs switch capabilities or instruction sets between one cycle and the next. Likewise, I've noticed that different CPU speeds tend to screw with the VM system clock, especially amongst speedstep CPUs. Shutting down, moving, and restarting the VM works fine though, from my experience. -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Furry Peace! - http://.fur.com/peace/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware Questions
A rule of thumb is to configure as much service as you need (in this case, dhcpd), with as little overhead as you can get away with (a simple jail vs. a full-blown VM). SC On 2/22/07, Martin McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Nielsen, referring to running multiple DHCPD's, writes: > For what you're talking about, jails make a lot more sense than > virtualization or emulation. Thank you! That is exactly the kind of input I was looking for. As soon as I read yours and Frank Staals' mention of jails, it clicked. A true jail will have a little version of as much of the FreeBSD world as dhcpd needs to run. This should be much easier on resources and more predictable as to results. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware Questions
John Nielsen, referring to running multiple DHCPD's, writes: > For what you're talking about, jails make a lot more sense than > virtualization or emulation. Thank you! That is exactly the kind of input I was looking for. As soon as I read yours and Frank Staals' mention of jails, it clicked. A true jail will have a little version of as much of the FreeBSD world as dhcpd needs to run. This should be much easier on resources and more predictable as to results. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware Questions
John Nielsen wrote: On Wednesday 21 February 2007 20:50, Martin McCormick wrote: If one has a FreeBSD system that has 1 gigabyte of RAM and a 1-GHZ processor, would it be possible to run a couple of vmware instances of FreeBSD? I want to set up a DHCP server on each virtual machine and configure one to be optimized for DHCP failover and dynamic leases while the other is dedicated to static bootp service. It would be much easier for the 2 instances of dhcpd to run in separate machines, so to speak, since they normally use the same named files for logging and configuration. What sort of a performance hit does one usually see on a virtual machine? Depends a lot on the virtual machine. VMware Server runs VM's pretty efficiently, but there is a moderate hit. ESX server has almost n performance penalty. When we run dhcpd on a normal FreeBSD system of the type described above, the system is normally loaded around 0.05 or so so it isn't having to work too hard. Thanks for any help as to what vmware port is best. The platform is FreeBSD and the 2 virtual machines will also be FreeBSD if that makes any difference. Modern versions of VMware don't run under FreeBSD. If you really want VMware then install a supported Linux distro and run VMware server. (Or go out and buy ESX or GSX server or one of the Workstation products). FreeBSD 6.2 works great as a guest under most VMware products. There will be no X windows involved, just hopefully 2 DHCP servers running as if they were on two separate boxes. Any information to point me in the right direction or reasons why this is not a good idea are appreciated. For what you're talking about, jails make a lot more sense than virtualization or emulation. If you really want to run virtual machines under FreeBSD, take a look at qemu. qemu (even with the kqemu_kmod port (highly recommended) definitely has a noticeable performance impact, but DHCP is so lightweight that it probably won't matter. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" If the goal is just to run FreeBSD instances inside your virutal machines vmware, qemu, xen etc are all not needed. Use jails instead which would be much faster. -- -Frank Staals ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware Questions
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 20:50, Martin McCormick wrote: > If one has a FreeBSD system that has 1 gigabyte of RAM > and a 1-GHZ processor, would it be possible to run a couple of > vmware instances of FreeBSD? I want to set up a DHCP server on > each virtual machine and configure one to be optimized for DHCP > failover and dynamic leases while the other is dedicated to > static bootp service. It would be much easier for the 2 > instances of dhcpd to run in separate machines, so to speak, > since they normally use the same named files for logging and > configuration. > > What sort of a performance hit does one usually see on a > virtual machine? Depends a lot on the virtual machine. VMware Server runs VM's pretty efficiently, but there is a moderate hit. ESX server has almost n performance penalty. > When we run dhcpd on a normal FreeBSD system of the type > described above, the system is normally loaded around 0.05 or so > so it isn't having to work too hard. > > Thanks for any help as to what vmware port is best. The > platform is FreeBSD and the 2 virtual machines will also be > FreeBSD if that makes any difference. Modern versions of VMware don't run under FreeBSD. If you really want VMware then install a supported Linux distro and run VMware server. (Or go out and buy ESX or GSX server or one of the Workstation products). FreeBSD 6.2 works great as a guest under most VMware products. > There will be no X windows involved, just hopefully 2 > DHCP servers running as if they were on two separate boxes. > > Any information to point me in the right direction or > reasons why this is not a good idea are appreciated. For what you're talking about, jails make a lot more sense than virtualization or emulation. If you really want to run virtual machines under FreeBSD, take a look at qemu. qemu (even with the kqemu_kmod port (highly recommended) definitely has a noticeable performance impact, but DHCP is so lightweight that it probably won't matter. JN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware equivalent?
Chris wrote: RW wrote: On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 07:45:43 -0800 (PST) Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been running vmware, and it works very well, but if I can find a open source version that works well, I would like to move in that direction. Thanks for the tips guys. If you do try qemu try building it with kqemu support. qemu does full emulation (which is needed for running an OS for a different platform). kqemu allows some of the guest OS instructions to run directly on the CPU, which is much faster. kqemu is not as mature as qemu, and if it doesn't works for you, you will find qemu much slower than vmware ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I would try VMWare 3 myself (ports tree) however, I'm unclear how to obtain a working key. Any ideas? From the README vmware3 installs "After a successful port installation you will need to obtain a license key to run VMware (you can use an old one for Linux). If you want to obtain a new key from http://www.vmware.com , you will have to select Linux as the 'server' platform." regards, Vince ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware equivalent?
RW wrote: > On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 07:45:43 -0800 (PST) > Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have been running vmware, and it works very well, but if I can find >> a open source version that works well, I would like to move in that >> direction. Thanks for the tips guys. > > If you do try qemu try building it with kqemu support. qemu does full > emulation (which is needed for running an OS for a different platform). > kqemu allows some of the guest OS instructions to run directly on the > CPU, which is much faster. kqemu is not as mature as qemu, and if it > doesn't works for you, you will find qemu much slower than vmware > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > I would try VMWare 3 myself (ports tree) however, I'm unclear how to obtain a working key. Any ideas? -- Best regards, Chris Laugh and the world laughs with you. cry and ... you have to blow your nose. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: VMware equivalent?
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 07:45:43 -0800 (PST) Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been running vmware, and it works very well, but if I can find > a open source version that works well, I would like to move in that > direction. Thanks for the tips guys. If you do try qemu try building it with kqemu support. qemu does full emulation (which is needed for running an OS for a different platform). kqemu allows some of the guest OS instructions to run directly on the CPU, which is much faster. kqemu is not as mature as qemu, and if it doesn't works for you, you will find qemu much slower than vmware ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware equivalent?
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:15:47 -0500 Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 04:51:31PM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote: > > > Xen? > > Xen is an interesting system, but so far as I know, so far, it > requires a Linux host - either Red Hat or Suse. I think most Linux distributions have it, and NetBSD (presumably it was prioritized because it's the most portable free OS) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware equivalent?
I have been running vmware, and it works very well, but if I can find a open source version that works well, I would like to move in that direction. Thanks for the tips guys. Chris Maness (909) 223-9179 http://www.chrismaness.com On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 04:51:31PM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote: Xen? Xen is an interesting system, but so far as I know, so far, it requires a Linux host - either Red Hat or Suse. Plus, unless you have the new Virtualizing chips from Intel or AMD, you have to make a special version of the OSen you plan to host with kernel modifications.I don't know if there is a version of FreeBSD for Sen yet or not. You can look. jerry On 2/5/07, Daniel Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/6/07, Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there an open source equivalent to vmware? -- Bochs, Qemu, and there's another really cool one that I can't think of! :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware equivalent?
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 04:51:31PM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote: > Xen? Xen is an interesting system, but so far as I know, so far, it requires a Linux host - either Red Hat or Suse. Plus, unless you have the new Virtualizing chips from Intel or AMD, you have to make a special version of the OSen you plan to host with kernel modifications.I don't know if there is a version of FreeBSD for Sen yet or not. You can look. jerry > On 2/5/07, Daniel Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On 2/6/07, Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Is there an open source equivalent to vmware? > >> > >> -- > >> > >Bochs, Qemu, and there's another really cool one that I can't think of! :( > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware equivalent?
> Kurt Buff wrote: >> Xen? >> >> On 2/5/07, Daniel Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 2/6/07, Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > >>> > Is there an open source equivalent to vmware? >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> Bochs, Qemu, and there's another really cool one that I can't think >>> of! :( >>> ___ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >>> > Thanks guys. Which one seems to be the best / most refined? > > -- > Chris Maness > (909) 223-9179 > http://www.chrismaness.com > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > -- your probably thinking of virtualbox ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware equivalent?
Kurt Buff wrote: Xen? On 2/5/07, Daniel Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/6/07, Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there an open source equivalent to vmware? > > -- > Bochs, Qemu, and there's another really cool one that I can't think of! :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Thanks guys. Which one seems to be the best / most refined? -- Chris Maness (909) 223-9179 http://www.chrismaness.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware equivalent?
Xen? On 2/5/07, Daniel Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/6/07, Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there an open source equivalent to vmware? > > -- > Bochs, Qemu, and there's another really cool one that I can't think of! :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware equivalent?
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 04:11:19PM -0800, Chris Maness wrote: > Is there an open source equivalent to vmware? > > -- > Chris Maness > (909) 223-9179 > http://www.chrismaness.com qemu is the best open-source virtual machine at the moment, bochs is also an alternative. You can find them in the ports collection: emulators/qemu emulators/bochs A short qemu guide: http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46399&highlight=qemu And some qemu performance tests: http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=44204&highlight=qemu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware equivalent?
On 2/6/07, Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there an open source equivalent to vmware? -- Bochs, Qemu, and there's another really cool one that I can't think of! :( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMWare
Bill Moran wrote: > In response to "Davison, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I'm looking to run VMware on my FreeBSD box and note that version 3 is in >> the ports. >> >> I've not tried running Linux software ontop of FreeBSD, but how easy is it >> to download the free VMware Server software off their site and install so I >> get the most recent version, and more importantly a free one. >> >> Is it just a case of downloading and installing the binary through the usual >> route or is it a bit more complex ? > > What's wrong with your email? I got a bunch of HTML at the end? > > Anyway, VMWare is a special case. It's got hooks deep into the Linux > network drivers that (as far as I know) are a showstopper that prevents > VMWare from running under the Linuxulator. > > If you learn differently, I'd love to hear it, but it's not possible > as far as I know. Every time I attend a trade show at which VMware has a booth, I always stop by to ask about any plans for supporting VM hosting on FreeBSD, and to encourage the thought. No one has ever given the slightest indication that this is even remotely likely to happen in the foreseeable future. The usual reason given is that FreeBSD's market share does not come close to justifying the VMware company resources that would be required to support it. Couldn't hurt to keep bugging 'em though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMWare
In response to "Davison, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm looking to run VMware on my FreeBSD box and note that version 3 is in the > ports. > > I've not tried running Linux software ontop of FreeBSD, but how easy is it to > download the free VMware Server software off their site and install so I get > the most recent version, and more importantly a free one. > > Is it just a case of downloading and installing the binary through the usual > route or is it a bit more complex ? What's wrong with your email? I got a bunch of HTML at the end? Anyway, VMWare is a special case. It's got hooks deep into the Linux network drivers that (as far as I know) are a showstopper that prevents VMWare from running under the Linuxulator. If you learn differently, I'd love to hear it, but it's not possible as far as I know. -- Bill Moran Collaborative Fusion Inc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
AFAIK, VMWare does not support FreeBSD as a host (YES as a guest) in their latest versions of the Workstation line. I havent heard of host as for the Server line, but I could be wrong. Does it run under Linux emulation? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
- VM Server isn't supported either. I am not so sure it would be as simple as mapping the linux commands to bsd ones... the fact that it needs the *mod linux commands implies they use linux kernel modules... which I would say are not compatible with BSD. I'd love to be proven wrong :) 100% - and it even has its own proprietary Linux modules that the VMServer loads when starting up (virtual nics, hubs / switches, etc). I just thought that linux modules would be able to operate under linux-emu in BSD. Guess I was wrong on that one :-) But yeah, VMWare Workstation is not really something I'd use in production. VMWare Server only Linux / Windows / etc, and then we have the enterprise class ESX Server, which is a OS in itself ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:53:39 +0200 Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone commented, that its impossible to run VMWare on FreeBSD as a host, > but thats wrong. Sorry, should have been more precise: - latest versions of VMWare Workstation (4.5 + ) are not supported (and most probably dont work) under FBSD as host. I'll have to try my 4.5 key in version 3 ;).. oh,hang on, mine is for a Windows Vmware Workstation. dont you just *love* it? Yes, qemu is much slower than VMware. - VM Server isn't supported either. I am not so sure it would be as simple as mapping the linux commands to bsd ones... the fact that it needs the *mod linux commands implies they use linux kernel modules... which I would say are not compatible with BSD. I'd love to be proven wrong :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:58:23 -0400 (EDT) > Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Is it possible to install VMWare Server on FreeBSD 6.0? I'm looking >> for comments from people who may have done this. > > I may be completelly off the mark here...but I think the VMWare Server is more > like XEN rather than Qemu ( which is more VMWare workstation). > > AFAIK, VMWare does not support FreeBSD as a host (YES as a guest) in their > latest versions of the Workstation line. I havent heard of host as for the > Server line, but I could be wrong. > > Have you looked into Xen instead? > > Beto well I'm trying vmware3 at the moment using 6.1 as host; the port seems to build fine, and the wizard now runs to build a setup. I need to get a key in order to actually run a machine, but I think overall it will eventually run XP. Had to change my linux compatibility etc etc. The difficulty with Xen at present is that it won't run XP/Win2k etc etc which vmware will. Xen will eventually get there now that they've got agreements with M$. The real problem with these emulations is how far they are from the real hardware. USB is still "new" so I don't expect to get my usb dvbt working even if a virtual XP runs fine. I know the qemu can do some kind of device control under linux, but I suspect it's harder under freeBSD. -- Robin Becker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Peter > Is it possible to install VMWare Server on FreeBSD 6.0? I'm looking > for comments from people who may have done this. Yes. At out office we are running VMWare3 as a host on FreeBSD 6.1 running Windows XP. It runs perfect. During setup I testet other solutions qemu etc. but found that VMWare out-speeds them all. VMWare is very fast, so fast that you almost wont notice its virtual. Someone commented, that its impossible to run VMWare on FreeBSD as a host, but thats wrong. I highly recommend VMWare3 from ports, eventhough its old. > Peter > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AFAIK, VMWare does not support FreeBSD as a host (YES as a guest) in their latest versions of the Workstation line. I havent heard of host as for the Server line, but I could be wrong. Quest Yes, Host No. VMServer does support Linux however. The problem is that they have build the server to depend solely on how linux operates. Hard coded commands, specifics about modules (i.e. lsmod, depmod, etc). If they wern't so full of fuzz about the installation, chances are the VMServer would run under linux-emu on BSD. But alas, at the moment BSD lacks the commands that VMServer requires. As far as Linux goes, it runs on just about anything Redhat, SuSe, Slackware, etc. -- Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 02:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to install VMWare Server on FreeBSD 6.0? I'm looking > for comments from people who may have done this. I may be completelly off the mark here...but I think the VMWare Server is more like XEN rather than Qemu ( which is more VMWare workstation). AFAIK, VMWare does not support FreeBSD as a host (YES as a guest) in their latest versions of the Workstation line. I havent heard of host as for the Server line, but I could be wrong. Have you looked into Xen instead? Beto ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 04:27:07AM -0400, Peter wrote: > I am not attached to any one product. I would prefer to go the OSS > route. What limitations does qemu have? Can you connect to the guest > machines remotely? How can you say it is better than vmware if you > have never used it? Thanks for any comments you may have. qemu has -d option which tells to redirect console to vnc. So you can connect remotely via vnc. But I think that QEMU is good for 1 or 2 virtual machines .. no more. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
El día Tuesday, August 15, 2006 a las 04:27:07AM -0400, Peter escribió: > I am not attached to any one product. I would prefer to go the OSS > route. What limitations does qemu have? Can you connect to the guest > machines remotely? How can you say it is better than vmware if you > have never used it? Thanks for any comments you may have. > > Peter I run Qemu for a long time in my FreeBSD 6.0-REL laptop to fire up, if I need to do, a XP box or to give talks about the installation of a FreeBSD just doing this in a Qemu virtual machine. Of course you can connect from the underlaying host system or from anywhere else, for example with SSH, to the guest system in Qemu, properly routing setup must done of course before. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
--- Girish Venkatachalam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is it possible to install VMWare Server on FreeBSD > > 6.0? I'm looking > > for comments from people who may have done this. > Sorry if I am side tracking but why bother about > vmware when qemu can do a much better job? > > Please feel free to flame me if vmware can do > something that qemu cannot since I have never used > vmware... > > regards, > Girish I am not attached to any one product. I would prefer to go the OSS route. What limitations does qemu have? Can you connect to the guest machines remotely? How can you say it is better than vmware if you have never used it? Thanks for any comments you may have. Peter __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware on freebsd?
--- Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to install VMWare Server on FreeBSD > 6.0? I'm looking > for comments from people who may have done this. Sorry if I am side tracking but why bother about vmware when qemu can do a much better job? Please feel free to flame me if vmware can do something that qemu cannot since I have never used vmware... regards, Girish > > Peter > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware library problem
Robin Becker wrote: [ ... ] Sure they're not the same. They belong to a different OS! The first are linux libraries, the second thos of FreeBSD. hmmm, I thought they both come from Xorg, it's obvious that different systems might apply different patches, but in practice shouldn't there be just one copy of libX11.so.6 on any given system? Sure. You would only need one copy of the X11 libraries if you only run native FreeBSD apps. If you want to run Linux apps, well, you need the Linux shared libraries those apps depend on. Presumably my KDE is operating with the freeBSD patched one so why should linux compatible apps use a different version? Because the C library and system calls available under FreeBSD and Linux are different...? Take a look at the source for BSD libc and GNU libc, or run "nm" on the shared libraries and compare the symbol tables for yourself. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware library problem
dick hoogendijk wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:59:53 + Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I fixed this by adding LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib to the environment, but since I actually have a choice of /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib /usr/X11R6/lib which should I actually use? For some reason even though I'm using a fresh portupgraded system the libraries the two locations are not the same. Sure they're not the same. They belong to a different OS! The first are linux libraries, the second thos of FreeBSD. hmmm, I thought they both come from Xorg, it's obvious that different systems might apply different patches, but in practice shouldn't there be just one copy of libX11.so.6 on any given system? Presumably my KDE is operating with the freeBSD patched one so why should linux compatible apps use a different version? If a different compiler were required or different calling conventions assumed then it would be reasonable, but I couldn't see any obvious differences in the compilations. -- Robin Becker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware library problem
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:59:53 + Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I fixed this by adding LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib to the > environment, but since I actually have a choice of > > /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib > /usr/X11R6/lib > > which should I actually use? For some reason even though I'm using a > fresh portupgraded system the libraries the two locations are not the > same. Sure they're not the same. They belong to a different OS! The first are linux libraries, the second thos of FreeBSD. -- dick -- http://nagual.nl/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.1 ++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware library problem
Robin Becker wrote: I have built and installed vmware3 from a recent(3/Aug) cvsup'd ports # vmware Setting TMPDIR=/var/tmp. vmware-mks: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory vmware-ui: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory find indicates that the libraries are indeed present. # find / -name libX11.so\* Anyone got any ideas what I'm doing wrong? What exactly should I be doing to get an XP machine image to run? I fixed this by adding LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib to the environment, but since I actually have a choice of /usr/compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib /usr/X11R6/lib which should I actually use? For some reason even though I'm using a fresh portupgraded system the libraries the two locations are not the same. -- Robin Becker ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware / vmplayer on freebsd?
I had success using VMWare 3 on a FreeBSD to run windows Xp inside it. And let's not forget our other options, like qemu and boch... (when it fits, of course ;-) Regards... -- Rafael Mentz Aquino BSDServer Ltda. 51 - 9847 8825 -- Original Message --- From: Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:13:05 +0000 (WET) Subject: Re: vmware / vmplayer on freebsd? > On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Rico Secada wrote: > > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:39:28 + (WET) > > Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >>> As far as I'm aware, VMWare only supports FreeBSD as a Guest OS, not as a Host > >>> OS. i.e. you can't run VMWare itself on FreeBSD, but you can run FreeBSD > >>> inside VMWare.. > >> > >> That would be correct. I own a copy of VMWare for Windows and use it > >> extensively to test out different scenarios with FreeBSD before touching > >> our production server. Works like a charm! > > > > That is not correct! > > > > We use VMWare3 from ports on a FreeBSD machine at our datacenter and it's running Windows XP perfectly. VMWare3 from ports supports FreeBSD as a host perfectly. > > Yes. That is true. However, to take advantage of the new features > that are provided in the latest v5.5, there isn't a way. Not only do > they have that documented on their site, I've also spoken with > someone prior to me purchasing the product. > > -- > "This message was sent using 100% recycled electrons." > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" --- End of Original Message --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware / vmplayer on freebsd?
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Rico Secada wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:39:28 + (WET) Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I'm aware, VMWare only supports FreeBSD as a Guest OS, not as a Host OS. i.e. you can't run VMWare itself on FreeBSD, but you can run FreeBSD inside VMWare.. That would be correct. I own a copy of VMWare for Windows and use it extensively to test out different scenarios with FreeBSD before touching our production server. Works like a charm! That is not correct! We use VMWare3 from ports on a FreeBSD machine at our datacenter and it's running Windows XP perfectly. VMWare3 from ports supports FreeBSD as a host perfectly. Yes. That is true. However, to take advantage of the new features that are provided in the latest v5.5, there isn't a way. Not only do they have that documented on their site, I've also spoken with someone prior to me purchasing the product. -- "This message was sent using 100% recycled electrons." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware / vmplayer on freebsd?
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:39:28 + (WET) Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > As far as I'm aware, VMWare only supports FreeBSD as a Guest OS, not as a > > Host > > OS. i.e. you can't run VMWare itself on FreeBSD, but you can run FreeBSD > > inside VMWare.. > > That would be correct. I own a copy of VMWare for Windows and use it > extensively to test out different scenarios with FreeBSD before touching > our production server. Works like a charm! That is not correct! We use VMWare3 from ports on a FreeBSD machine at our datacenter and it's running Windows XP perfectly. VMWare3 from ports supports FreeBSD as a host perfectly. Best and kind regards Rico ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware / vmplayer on freebsd?
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I'm aware, VMWare only supports FreeBSD as a Guest OS, not as a Host OS. i.e. you can't run VMWare itself on FreeBSD, but you can run FreeBSD inside VMWare.. That would be correct. I own a copy of VMWare for Windows and use it extensively to test out different scenarios with FreeBSD before touching our production server. Works like a charm! Quoting Erin Sharmahd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm trying to find some info on google on using vmware server or vmplayer on freebsd. In essence, one of my classes is expecting us to do some windows work, and i'd like to do it in vmware or something similar so that I don't have to actually install windows Is it even possible currently to use the most recent version of vmware or vmplayer on freebsd? I saw a port for vmware3, but in talking to a friend, he said that's really old... Thanks, ~Erin -- http://www.tuxgirl.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- "This message was sent using 100% recycled electrons." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware / vmplayer on freebsd?
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006, at 22:36:56 -0600, Erin Sharmahd wrote: > I'm trying to find some info on google on using vmware server or > vmplayer on freebsd. In essence, one of my classes is expecting us to > do some windows work, and i'd like to do it in vmware or something > similar so that I don't have to actually install windows Hi. I'm not 100% sure about VMWare on FreeBSD (although I think only older versions are currently available), but I'd give QEMU a try. It's in ports at emulators/qemu. I've used Windows 2000 and Windows XP inside QEMU a little bit in the past, and the performance was pretty good with the KQEMU kernel module (emulators/kqemu-kmod). http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ -Mark -- Internet Radio: Party107 (Trance/Electronic) - http://www.party107.com Rock 101.9 The Edge (Rock) - http://www.rock1019.net IRC: MIXXnet IRC Network - irc.mixxnet.net (Nick: MIXX941) GnuPG Public Key: http://www.mkproductions.org/mk_pubkey.asc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware / vmplayer on freebsd?
As far as I'm aware, VMWare only supports FreeBSD as a Guest OS, not as a Host OS. i.e. you can't run VMWare itself on FreeBSD, but you can run FreeBSD inside VMWare.. Quoting Erin Sharmahd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm trying to find some info on google on using vmware server or > vmplayer on freebsd. In essence, one of my classes is expecting us to > do some windows work, and i'd like to do it in vmware or something > similar so that I don't have to actually install windows > > Is it even possible currently to use the most recent version of vmware > or vmplayer on freebsd? I saw a port for vmware3, but in talking to a > friend, he said that's really old... > > Thanks, > > ~Erin > > -- > http://www.tuxgirl.com > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMWare install error
Thank you very much Beni! I completely missed that. Best regards, Rico Original Message Subject: Re: VMWare install error Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 10:52:06 +0200 From: Beni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Saturday 17 June 2006 22:20, Rico wrote: Hi, I am trying to install VMWare3 on FreeBSD 6.1 from the ports. During intall I get this error: => SHA256 Checksum OK for rpm/i386/fedora/4/zlib-1.2.2.2-5.fc4.i386.rpm. ===> linux_base-fc-4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rpm2cpio - found ===> Patching for linux_base-fc-4_1 ===> Configuring for linux_base-fc-4_1 ===> Building for linux_base-fc-4_1 ===> Installing for linux_base-fc-4_1 ===> linux_base-fc-4_1 conflicts with installed package(s): linux_base-8-8.0_14 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc4. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/rtc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware3. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware3. I do understand the conflict, but I am not sure what the best way to handle this is. Trying to remove linux_base, gives a lot of work since a lot of other stuff depends upon that. Any recommendations? Another question, regarding speed and ease of configuration, which is recommended: VMWare vs. Qemu? Best and kind regards, Rico ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Maybe this can help from /usr/ports/UPDATING : [...] 20060616: AFFECTS users of emulation/linux_base-* AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We now use Fedora Core 4 as the linux base port, and the corresponding xorg libs for the linux X11 libs port. To upgrade you have to run portupgrade -f -o emulators/linux_base-fc4 linux_base\* portupgrade -f -o x11/linux-xorg-libs linux-XFree86-libs [...] Beni. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" . ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMWare install error
On Saturday 17 June 2006 22:20, Rico wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to install VMWare3 on FreeBSD 6.1 from the ports. > > During intall I get this error: > > => SHA256 Checksum OK for rpm/i386/fedora/4/zlib-1.2.2.2-5.fc4.i386.rpm. > ===> linux_base-fc-4_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/rpm2cpio - found > ===> Patching for linux_base-fc-4_1 > ===> Configuring for linux_base-fc-4_1 > ===> Building for linux_base-fc-4_1 > ===> Installing for linux_base-fc-4_1 > > ===> linux_base-fc-4_1 conflicts with installed package(s): >linux_base-8-8.0_14 > >They install files into the same place. >Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc4. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/rtc. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware3. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware3. > > I do understand the conflict, but I am not sure what the best way to > handle this is. Trying to remove linux_base, gives a lot of work since a > lot of other stuff depends upon that. > > Any recommendations? > > Another question, regarding speed and ease of configuration, which is > recommended: VMWare vs. Qemu? > > Best and kind regards, > Rico > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Maybe this can help from /usr/ports/UPDATING : [...] 20060616: AFFECTS users of emulation/linux_base-* AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We now use Fedora Core 4 as the linux base port, and the corresponding xorg libs for the linux X11 libs port. To upgrade you have to run portupgrade -f -o emulators/linux_base-fc4 linux_base\* portupgrade -f -o x11/linux-xorg-libs linux-XFree86-libs [...] Beni. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: VMware host on stable?
On 16 Feb Scott Long wrote: > dick hoogendijk wrote: > >On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:15:55 -0700 > >Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Michael Butler wrote: > >> > >>>What is the most recent version of VMware known to work on 6.x in > >>>host mode so as to be able to run windoze as a guest? > >>> > >>>Anyone tried 5.5 on 6.x yet? .. or the time-limited beta (expires > >>>~July) of VMware server (free! at > >>>http://www.vmware.com/products/server)? > >>> > >>> Michael > >> > >>I have the same question. I've been looking at porting the 5.5 vmmon > >>module, but haven't had time yet to start. All I really need is the > >>ability to run an existing vmware image. And no, qemu and xen and > >>all that is not an option. > > > >You're entitled to your POV, of course. But I dare say that *on FreeBSD* > >Qemu (w/ kqemu) is far better than any build of vmware I've ever seen. > >Any reason why qemu is "not an option"? > > > > Can qemu run the vmware image that I have? If it can, great! It's > not a matter of opinion or open source vs closed source, it's a simple > matter of using appropriate tools for my particular needs. > > Scott The vmware filesystem is supported and my vmware images run great. -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 6.0 +++ The Power to Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: vmware
dima wrote: what the steps need to do in configuration files & programs, that install vmware_5.5 on FreeBSD_6.0 you could try qemu instead. It also has kernel-acceleration and runs guest Os's at decent speed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
