Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

+1 to this idea On 9 January 2013 at 20:54, Jim Hall wrote: > >> A hypervisor that can run dosbox and make modern hardware work > >> with old dos programs anyone? How about dosbox running on a Pentium 133 > >> or a Pentium 166 machine with 16 megs of ram? > > > >

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Hi Alain, sorry for my late response. I downloaded your VM on the day you talked about it here on this list and tested it in VirtualBox. I found it really interesting. Thank you very much for your work. Lubuntu started very fast and the integration of Dosemu and FreeDOS looks interesting. Do

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

DOS apps will run under Win7 32-bit, but not 64-bit. -Original Message- From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 11:37 AM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: Just to be clear, I am thinking of FreeDOS here, so this isn't all meant to be totally off-topic. IMHO, FreeDOS 2.0 should have more compilers and interpreters, and I've weakly tried over the past few months to carefully add a

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Hi, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:10 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: I dual booted 98SE and 2K, but abandoned that when I went to a GB of RAM in the box, because 98SE refused to boot if it saw more than 512MB. (There turn out to be ways around that, but I had Win2K to the point

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Scrupts... it seems to me more like a java approach, with the engine running on each machine/platform and the code (scripts) to be universal Konstantinos Giannopoulos (SV3ORA) Computer and Telecommunications Engineer Director of the Greek Microwave Group (www.microwave.gr) 2013/1/10 Rugxulo

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

DEBUG scripts? Wow. I miss those. The poor man's assembler. I dropped my PC Magazine subscription when it went all Windows, back in the late 90s. This *is* the FreeDOS list, right? Haven't seen a post about that in awhile. Bruce On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Louis Santillan

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

-Original Message- From: Rugxulo [mailto:rugx...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:54 AM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available? Hi, On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, dmccunney

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:10 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: Like I said, Win2k / XP aren't that bad, though they have quite a few catches and omissions. It gets worse later on, but it depends on whether you

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

This *is* the FreeDOS list, right? Haven't seen a post about that in awhile. Yes, and this discussion threat has gone *way* off topic. -jh -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC,

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

This *is* the FreeDOS list, right? Haven't seen a post about that in awhile. Yes, and this discussion threat has gone *way* off topic. Alright, point conceded. However: I am glad that this discussion did take place. It showed us how insanely complex things have become. This is relevant not

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Gee. All these emails and I was only looking for a log in screen. LOL Sent from my HTC One XL on the Telstra 4G network - Reply message - From: Marcos Favero Florence de Barros fav...@mpcnet.com.br To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Hi, On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:37 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:10 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: (DOS apps don't run at all under Win7, unless you use a VM, but I

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Developers are fairly close-minded. They don't usually target anybody outside of the big three, which usually means POSIX + Windows. And these days they get more kicks out of having ten bazillion ports to Linux (IA-32 or x64) than others. This is because they are mostly constrained by the

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: A protected mode dos like the one under Windows 9x and Windows ME could be interesting and would justifiably deserve a different name like Freedos-32. The problem with a dos environment is that there isn't an

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Hi, On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: There are some programs that require Windows 3.1 or 3.11 which can run on top of Freedos, but more work on compatibility would not hurt. While I agree in theory, there just aren't enough skilled developers

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Hi, On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 3:38 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Michael Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: A protected mode dos like the one under Windows 9x and Windows ME could be interesting and would justifiably deserve a different

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Hi, On Jan 9, 2013 11:06 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I thought WinME removed the real mode bootup, hence lower compatibility? I'm pretty sure there was still DOS underneath like in ME. Removing the real

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 9, 2013 11:06 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I thought WinME removed the real mode bootup, hence lower compatibility? I'm pretty sure

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

-Original Message- From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:05 PM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available? On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:36 PM, David C. Kerber dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com wrote: From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: I thought WinME removed the real mode bootup, hence lower compatibility? Don't have

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

A hypervisor that can run dosbox and make modern hardware work with old dos programs anyone? How about dosbox running on a Pentium 133 or a Pentium 166 machine with 16 megs of ram? Insufficient demand to justify the effort. There may not be a lot of demand, but I see it as an interesting

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 9, 2013 11:06 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: At the moment, I'm

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Most embedded processors (that are still actively produced) are 32-bit. Anyways, I don't think FreeDOS qualifies, at least not for 8-bit (AVR??) ones. PIC16F505, PIC16F1938... these are microchip baseline 8 bit microprocessors intended for embedded use. Yes microchip offers 32 bit

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

An interesting historical note, early versions of the FreeDOS kernel (DOS-C kernel) were portable to the 68k architecture. See ( http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Villani). -L On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Ralf A. Quint wrote: At 04:15 PM 1/9/2013, Michael Robinson wrote: Most embedded

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

At 05:12 PM 1/9/2013, Louis Santillan wrote: An interesting historical note, early versions of the FreeDOS kernel (DOS-C kernel) were portable to the 68k architecture. See (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Villanihttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Villani). Well, you noticed that in that

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 05:12 PM 1/9/2013, Louis Santillan wrote: An interesting historical note, early versions of the FreeDOS kernel (DOS-C kernel) were portable to the 68k architecture. See

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Hi, On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: EMS used a 64KB page frame located in the block between 640K and 1MB, and paged memory above 1MB into it for use. I vaguely thought EMS 4.0 didn't need a page frame? (Where's Eric to explain all this when you

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Hi, On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote: A hypervisor that can run dosbox and make modern hardware work with old dos programs anyone? How about dosbox running on a Pentium 133 or a Pentium 166 machine with 16 megs of ram? Insufficient demand to justify the

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Hi, On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:06 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 05:12 PM 1/9/2013, Louis Santillan wrote: An interesting historical note, early versions of the FreeDOS kernel (DOS-C kernel) were portable to

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:06 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ralf A. Quint free...@gmx.net wrote: At 05:12 PM 1/9/2013, Louis Santillan wrote: An interesting historical note, early

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

There's always DEBUG QBASIC. :D Remember when magazines used to actually post DEBUG QBASIC scripts. -L On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 9:54 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:06 PM, dmccunney

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:36 PM, David C. Kerber dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com wrote: From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] On Wed,

[Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Hello there, do you know when V2.0 of freedos will be available? -- Konstantinos Giannopoulos (SV3ORA) Computer and Telecommunications Engineer Director of the Greek Microwave Group (www.microwave.gr) -- Master SQL

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Op 8-1-2013 15:38, KOS schreef: Hello there, do you know when V2.0 of freedos will be available? I'm not sure there's going to be a V2.0 sometime soon, be there FreeDOS roadmaps or not. I'm still quitely working on version 1.2 of the FreeDOS distribution whenever I find spare time. Is there

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

No currently there is not something because I have not managed to install it yet, since I cannot make the bootloader work. After installing everything, the bootloader does not give me the right options like shown here

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Op 8-1-2013 20:22, KOS schreef: No currently there is not something because I have not managed to install it yet, since I cannot make the bootloader work. After installing everything, the bootloader does not give me the right options like shown here

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Yes the files are there, I have inserted the compact flash disk (installing on an alix-1d) into a reader and they are there hidden as they should be. should I give SYS C: at the grub prompt? I have developed XDOS http://www.microwave.gr/giannopk/xdos.htm a collection of msdos 6.22 and a huge lot

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Op 8-1-2013 20:59, KOS schreef: should I give SYS C: at the grub prompt? If you're able to reach DOS already, perform SYS C: Alternatively, you'll have to search (Google should do the trick) how to chain from GRUB, GRUB2 or GRUB4DOS to KERNEL.SYS , skipping the entire bootsector thing. If you

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

KOS, If you have installed grub, but it is not working, you can remove it with the command fdisk /mbr. This will write the default mbr to the hard disk. Then use sys c: Jeffrey -- Master Java SE, Java EE, Eclipse,

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 18:46 +0100, Bernd Blaauw wrote: Op 8-1-2013 15:38, KOS schreef: Hello there, do you know when V2.0 of freedos will be available? I'm not sure there's going to be a V2.0 sometime soon, be there FreeDOS roadmaps or not. I'm still quitely working on version 1.2 of the

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos V2.0 - when will it be available?

Hm... I am a bit skeptic here. Think it the other way. Although we are talking about a GUI here, a GUI is not new these days, in fact this is mostly the rule. What is special about DOS (and bare unixes) TODAY from the point of an average user, is that it is a command line tool and that DOD is