Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-07 Thread TJ Edmister
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:29:56 -0500, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi! The DOS format utility is kind of an anachronism at this point. Usually it takes a long time to format a partition because it's iterating through every sector of the disk. It's completely unnecessary these days.

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-07 Thread Dale E Sterner
I like to buy old used chips that can have lots of hidden junk on them. Its best to really clean them. Not a problem with cf chips but sd stuff is really slow. 32 gigs and higher just doesn't make it. cheers DS On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 03:16:35 -0500 TJ Edmister damag...@hyakushiki.net writes: On

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-07 Thread Bob Schwier
The complete format does have one virtue. It wipes the disk if you need to make sure the previous information is gone. bs On Sun, 12/7/14, TJ Edmister damag...@hyakushiki.net wrote: Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60 To: Discussion

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-07 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: I like to buy old used chips that can have lots of hidden junk on them. Its best to really clean them. Not a problem with cf chips but sd stuff is really slow. 32 gigs and higher just doesn't make it. What hardware are

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-07 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Bob Schwier schwepes2...@yahoo.com wrote: The complete format does have one virtue. It wipes the disk if you need to make sure the previous information is gone. If that's a real concern, you need to do more than FORMAT. You need to use one of the programs that

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread Dave Kerber
-Original Message- From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 8:55 PM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60 ... When I try to format very large SD chips with DOS; the software

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread Dale E Sterner
Great answer. I usually have to redo flash chips becuse they're set up for camers at the factory. The small boot program in the mbr is for movie cameras not computers. Left unchanged it could do something unpleasent. SD cards are the worse. DOS starts working then quits on big chips. It gets too

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Dave Kerber dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com wrote: -Original Message- From: dmccunney [mailto:dennis.mccun...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 8:55 PM To: Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. Subject: Re: [Freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 2:40 AM, TJ Edmister damag...@hyakushiki.net wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 07:55:59 -0500, Matej Horvat matej.hor...@guest.arnes.si wrote: Usually when people say HTML5, they mean the audio and video elements,which currently no DOS browser supports. They are a _good_

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! The DOS format utility is kind of an anachronism at this point. Usually it takes a long time to format a partition because it's iterating through every sector of the disk. It's completely unnecessary these days. All it really needs to do is write a boot sector, FAT, and root

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/2/2014 4:57 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: Serial devices are always slow; I don't know how they get around it. SD cards are serial like SATA and they really are slow. The hard drive clock must be super fast to get those speeds. They also have to transfer handshakes serially. I wonder how its

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/3/2014 8:36 AM, dmccunney wrote: a plugin. The HTML5 video keyword *does* require a codec to decode and stream the content, but the codec will be delivered with the browser and be part of the browser environment. You don't need a third-party program called from the browser. And this

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Dave Kerber dker...@warrenrogersassociates.com wrote: When I try to format very large SD chips with DOS; the software just gives up. Small sd chips do format but slowly. Large CF chips format in a few seconds. That's an OS and old hardware issue,

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/2/2014 6:33 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: FAT16 is limited to 8 gigs but FAT32 goes much higher. I kinda remember Wikopedia saying 2T but could easily be wrong. Excuse me? FAT16 is limited to 2 (two) Gigabyte with the

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread dmccunney
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/3/2014 8:36 AM, dmccunney wrote: a plugin. The HTML5 video keyword *does* require a codec to decode and stream the content, but the codec will be delivered with the browser and be part of the browser environment. You

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread Dave Kerber
-Original Message- From: Ralf Quint [mailto:freedos...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 3:41 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60 On 12/3/2014 5:23 AM, Dave Kerber wrote: That's an OS and old hardware issue, It's

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/3/2014 12:58 PM, dmccunney wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/2/2014 6:33 AM, Dale E Sterner wrote: FAT16 is limited to 8 gigs but FAT32 goes much higher. I kinda remember Wikopedia saying 2T but could easily be wrong. Excuse me? FAT16

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/3/2014 1:01 PM, dmccunney wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/3/2014 8:36 AM, dmccunney wrote: a plugin. The HTML5 video keyword *does* require a codec to decode and stream the content, but the codec will be delivered with the browser and

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-03 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/3/2014 1:04 PM, Dave Kerber wrote: -Original Message- From: Ralf Quint [mailto:freedos...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 3:41 PM To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60 On 12/3/2014 5:23 AM, Dave Kerber wrote

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread Matej Horvat
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 06:44:52 +0100, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@twc.com wrote: from Rugxulo: One of the big problems (not counting HTML5 or Javascript or Flash) is HTTPS. Not just for DOS but for any OS that isn't top tier (big three: Mac, Win, Linux). On DOS, Dillo and Links support

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread Don Flowers
I have used the boot manager from XFdisk or Grub 2 and have installed FreeDOS on the 2nd, 3rd and/or last partition following the three (root, home swap) that the ubuntu derivatives require. The the minimum FreeDOS FAT32 partition I have used is 4GB, the max is about 40gb (on a 320gb drive) the

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread Dale E Sterner
FAT16 is limited to 8 gigs but FAT32 goes much higher. I kinda remember Wikopedia saying 2T but could easily be wrong. DOS might have problems with SATA drive. DOS reads from the harddrive a lot. Since SATA is serial (just one bit at a time) The data ransfer rate might be too slow for DOS to live

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread Tom Ehlert
DOS might have problems with SATA drive. DOS reads from the harddrive a lot. Since SATA is serial (just one bit at a time) The data ransfer rate might be too slow for DOS to live with. I know I can't get it to run on a SD card because one bit at a time is just too slow. back in the good old

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: FAT16 is limited to 8 gigs but FAT32 goes much higher. I kinda remember Wikopedia saying 2T but could easily be wrong. FAT16 is limited to a 2GB volume size. FAT32 goes up to 8TB. In FAT*, the basic unit of space it

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread Mateusz Viste
This is getting highly off-topic, but I couldn't resist commenting on. :) On 12/02/2014 05:02 PM, dmccunney wrote: FAT32 uses a 32 bit cluster address, so there are 268,435,445 possible clusters. The above statement might sound confusing for the occasional reader. To straighten things up:

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Mateusz Viste mate...@viste.fr wrote: This is getting highly off-topic, but I couldn't resist commenting on. :) On 12/02/2014 05:02 PM, dmccunney wrote: FAT32 uses a 32 bit cluster address, so there are 268,435,445 possible clusters. The above statement

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread Dale E Sterner
Serial devices are always slow; I don't know how they get around it. SD cards are serial like SATA and they really are slow. The hard drive clock must be super fast to get those speeds. They also have to transfer handshakes serially. I wonder how its done. Some really great engineering there.

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread Dale E Sterner
Tranferings 1 bit at a time is always slower than 8 bits at a time. if the clock stays the same for both. How SATA beats this is something I don't understand. SATA doesn't have seperate handshaking outputs so handshkes have to travel the same serial lines. Quit a feat of engineering there. When I

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: Tranferings 1 bit at a time is always slower than 8 bits at a time. if the clock stays the same for both. How SATA beats this is something I don't understand. SATA doesn't have seperate handshaking outputs so handshkes

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread Dale E Sterner
I can think of only 2 ways an engineer can get those speeds out of a serial device. A very fast clock or big external buffers. I think DOS could handle a fast clock but if they use buffers; DOS may not know how to use them like windows or Linux. I never used SATA so I can't say. You would be in

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread TJ Edmister
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 21:13:59 -0500, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: I can think of only 2 ways an engineer can get those speeds out of a serial device. A very fast clock or big external buffers. I think DOS could handle a fast clock It is a very fast clock, 1.5 GHz and beyond. It

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-02 Thread TJ Edmister
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 07:55:59 -0500, Matej Horvat matej.hor...@guest.arnes.si wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 06:44:52 +0100, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@twc.com wrote: from Rugxulo: One of the big problems (not counting HTML5 or Javascript or Flash) is HTTPS. Not just for DOS but for any OS

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-01 Thread Dale E Sterner
I only use windows to get on the web for just about everything else I use DOS. My software is all loaded on cf chips and I can switch between them very quickly. Tried to reproduce what I do on Qpro with windows Excell but found it too difficult to do. Qpro is loaded with powerful macro commands

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-01 Thread Marco Antonio Achury Palma
I really miss a word perfect clone, working on text console but with some updated features like support for png and svg images, export to html... El 01/12/2014 10:37, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com escribió: I only use windows to get on the web for just about everything else I use DOS. My

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-01 Thread Dale E Sterner
My needs are simple and dos does just about everything that I need done. Qpro has 50 years worth of records on it. It tells me how much I spent or saved. It would be hard to do without it especially at tax time. cheers DS On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 11:08:59 -0500 dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-01 Thread Ralf Quint
On 11/30/2014 2:00 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: I got it to download finally. It seems that it doesn't like Opera. I tried IE and it worked. I wonder why it hates Opera. Opera always worked before. Just tried it with Opera 26 and it worked just fine as well... Ralf --- This email has been

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-01 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 10:22 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@twc.com wrote: from dmccunney: I can't run FreeDOS or any other DOS from hard drive because of GPT; only way is if I can install to a USB stick using

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-01 Thread Dale E Sterner
According to wikopedia GPT is a king sized version of MBR. Can you try a smaller hardrive that uses a MBR? If your bios can still boot a hard drive with a MBR. cheers DS On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 19:46:17 -0600 Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com writes: Hi, On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 10:22 PM, dmccunney

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-12-01 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Rugxulo: One of the big problems (not counting HTML5 or Javascript or Flash) is HTTPS. Not just for DOS but for any OS that isn't top tier (big three: Mac, Win, Linux). It has recently come to my attention that many popular websites are now requiring it, which makes it very hard to

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-30 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: When you pay for the software he gives you a special link with a password. I assumed something like that. Have you tried the s command on a movie. I paid him $100 to add it. I use it on home movies. I can stop the

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-30 Thread Dale E Sterner
I got it to download finally. It seems that it doesn't like Opera. I tried IE and it worked. I wonder why it hates Opera. Opera always worked before. As far as dos goes I use it for alot. Qpro for book keeping, Wordperfect for letters etc and Quickview to do my camera pics. with QV you can stop a

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-30 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: I got it to download finally. It seems that it doesn't like Opera. I tried IE and it worked. I wonder why it hates Opera. Opera always worked before. I have no idea. Which version of Opera? As far as dos goes I use

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-30 Thread Thomas Mueller
from dmccunney: Mister, you're a better man than I. I migrated to Windows and Linux long ago. There are still a few old DOS apps I use, and I'm currently playing with a fork of DOSBox called vDos under 64 bit Windows to run them. I play with FreeDOS for fun and to keep my hand in. I

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-30 Thread dmccunney
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Thomas Mueller mueller6...@twc.com wrote: from dmccunney: Mister, you're a better man than I. I migrated to Windows and Linux long ago. There are still a few old DOS apps I use, and I'm currently playing with a fork of DOSBox called vDos under 64 bit

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-29 Thread dmccunney
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: Tried to download version 2.60 from the registered user site and got error site is off line. Anybody know why? If you mean getting it from http://www.multimediaware.com/qv/download.htm, that's working here. cheers DS

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-29 Thread Dale E Sterner
I'm getting error overloaded or off line at your link. The link I tried was for registered users only. The sound drivers all downloaded without any problem but the main link to the program doesn't work here for some reason. cheers DS On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 21:04:49 -0500 dmccunney

Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60

2014-11-29 Thread Ralf Quint
On 11/29/2014 6:18 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: I'm getting error overloaded or off line at your link. The link I tried was for registered users only. The sound drivers all downloaded without any problem but the main link to the program doesn't work here for some reason. On Sat, 29 Nov 2014