Hi
I am new to this forum.
does anyone know :
off the top of their head, what the CONST table size(s) is(are) for codec2 ?
has anyone considered a fixed point implementation ? I do understand the
fixed point issues, but I wondered has anyone looked at it.
regards
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. The M4 will make
fairly good throughput out of junk coding. I use the Rowley
Associates toolchain.
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/peripherals on the one chip.
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Yes I agree re the STM32F4's DSP capability. It doesn't have proper
single cycle MACs. However it's fast and cheap and has
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lead , or lead free, David ?
get yourself a few 6' rolls of 0.5mm desoldering braid and a JBC iron.
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From an armchair critic point of view, in my opinion, and I have
written alot of modems on a PC, if FreeDV consumes more than a few
percent of CPU load of say a 2gig core2duo, then there is something
VERY suboptimal about the way it is written.
And that is before any use of CPU intrinsics ,
Bruce
I know you're are intense person. Granted.
But, it is open source...
and so you are free to fix it, if you like. That is the wonderful
thing about GPL, if you dont like it, you can always fix it.
glen VK1XX
You might have to wait a while though, Silicon is only in preview..
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ARM announced the successor to the Cortex-M4, the Cortex-M7. It has
twice the CPU speed (400MHz), a double precision floating point unit,
and better caching. It's
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as a
ceramic (not sure what material however). Had assumed a tant would be
just as good?
Cheers,
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I have some schematic comments
Critical :
1)
Try to avoid connecting input pins of the CPU to Vdd. This is bad !
IE PTT, SELECT, BACK
, should
work OK for testing, and although twice too wide a legal signal on our
ham bands.
Gullik
On 10/17/2014 10:38 AM, glen english wrote:
Gullick it is even easier than that -
FreeDV can/could output on Left and right channels ( 2 x ADC)- the
inphase and quadrature components - you dont need
pilot @ 1500 hz, that gives the lowest
subcarrier @ 8 * 75 Hz, or 600 hz lower, and the upper 8 +600 hz.
So bandwidth is 900 - 2100 Hz (carr center)
So, this would work nicely, or is your suggestion to change that?
Gullik
On 10/17/2014 12:53 PM, glen english wrote:
there ya go.
David, I
shorts over unnecessary floats can be useful for saving cache access/
cache misses.
I often have compile directives/substitutions for debug in float,
release in short.
glen
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Yes I think it's a good idea to add a floating point
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Thanks,
David
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Is possible to exploit the FM noise triangle, and use higher QAM
densitites at lower frequencies (say 64QAM) and lower qam densities(say
QPSK) at higher frequencies. (have done). For audio FMed, it is
rather a waste (though simple) to use
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the
waveform in use.
Cheers,
David
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Hi David
Good analysis. I think though there needs to be some clarifications
(having done a few of these in my professional capacity)
1) 10dB over analog FM .?Not so fast ! I reckon 3dB worse at best.
You'll need
we couldn't reproduce FM That way using the same tx/rx.
I like the name G-star!
Cheers,
David
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Hi David
1- Any FM demodulated process. If it's post demod, there will be the
threshold.
that's right - no one cares about low CNR 'cause it is unusable
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Hi David
1- Any FM demodulated process. If it's post demod, there will be the
threshold.
that's right - no one cares about low CNR 'cause it is unusable.
2 - and you got to do carrier recovery very quickly for burst transmissions.
3- I think good speech quality
and get another dB, by
all means knock yourself out, be my guest, but it should also provide
basic funtionality on a STM32F4 in a STM $20 Discovery Eval kit.
g
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want to push your amplifier. The advantage of GSMK is the use of a non
linear amplifier, given.
g
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Thanks Glen - I have replied to your comment on the blog post.
Cheers,
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I did say dBm .
Oops. I haven't memorized that uV to dBm table yet.
Regarding the frequency control and regulators, we have the DAC/ADC
clocks and frequency synthesizers all running off of one oscillator.
The computer
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well, the thing is, the newbies are in the minority, and everyone else
is the majority, so ya gotta mount a pretty good technically sound
argument that is win win.
Yep, there is a cartel on repeater planning pretty much in most
developed countries. In VK , also.
There is, however, most
as horizontal polarized omni antennas, are they any good?
I've been thinking of building one for testing H-pol. (
http://www.g8seq.com/vhf_antennas.php )
Thanks,
Daniel VA7DRM
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Chris , You are right about these integrated PLLs on the single chip
receivers , they can be full of noises.
The limitation is all that stuff crammed in, but there are always common
currents flowing around from other parts of the circuitry that will
crosstalk into the oscillator or IF.
a
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On 02/08/2015 06:06 PM, glen english wrote:
you only need a nice big binary counter for the 1pps input correction ,
IE perhaps 24 flip flops is nice...and the ability to read this counter
from the STM32- the STM32 can do the rest
hey, I'll reply directly, we are getting a bit off topic.
unless the group thinks otherwise
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are going to make it as good as we can for the first run, and then
experiment with making it cheaper.
Thanks
Bruce
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Bruce
I'd suggest living with a +/- 2ppm oscillator design and have the modem
capable of AFCing and pulling the oscillator against
) spurs. The integer N PLL will also often
have much lower power consumption.
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Cbus/SPI is easy, you dont need a library BUT
- but... if you need to ask about what is SPI/Cbus, do I need a
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Hi David
hmmm.half an STM32 F407 is about 110 D-MIPS
I'd be telling people... as a guide...
about 110 Drystone-MIPS but your mileage may vary
since it isn't like a real-DSP which just quotes FIRtaps/uS
g
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Hi Adriana,
I dunno
The way the alorgithm is written, I would think it is a better fit on a
general purpose processor like the Cortex M4+FPU.
It's like not it is DSP specific doing a load of large FIRs and IIRs and
adaptive equalisers at race-pace.
I looked at how the algorithm would execute on the
My 5 cents
I agree with Helmut's analysis. Additionally, with such a low IIP3, the
radio will be absolutely riddled with intermods and essentially unusable
in a city.
NE602 is good for a cordless telephone, or a well protected 2nd IF mixer
function.
By modern standards they are a low
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option is a few more coupled LC sections, they seem to offer
about 20dB extra attn per section. Not sure if there is a more elegant way.
Cheers,
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On 26/02/15 08:55, glen english wrote:
and..
Using the ADC in the STM32 undersampling at 10.5 meg signal at 2 Msps.
Are you sure the STM
/02/15 12:26, glen english wrote:
David
take a look at the soft-rock designs for quadrature demods.
these are pretty good performers..
the VHF particularly
this is a CLEVER design and I have built half a dozen...
http://www.wb5rvz.com/sdr/ensemble_rx_ii_vhf/
and this one
http
outputs.
regards
On 26/02/2015 11:37 AM, David Rowe wrote:
Thanks Glen :-)
Yep, the NE602 has to go. I'm convinced IP3 is king, ahead of MDS. What
sort of mixer would you suggest?
Any thoughts on the suitability of the Si5351?
Cheers,
David
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My 5
other
options. I just got my dev boards for the CMX994 and 971 today so I'll
be running some test with them over the next few days.
Daniel
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My 5 cents
I agree
Hi Sidrah
There is plenty of this on the web, but it will be a steep learning
curve- be prepared for a couple of weeks solid work.
You'll need to understand the linux sound subsystems, maybe start with
the Alsa site.
My suggestion : there is plenty of source code for applications that use
the
Hi Brady
A 1 minute look at it
1)
I think you will striggle to get sufficient TX/RX isolation with that
style diode switch- ideally you should reverse bias the PIN diodes
when you want to shut down that path .
IE have say 5V on the cathodes, and switch 0 or 10V onto the wanted /
wanted
Hi Brady
How much gain you need is pretty easily calculated from
calculating your SDR noise figure, and then knowing your desired noise
figure.
Add a few dB for something you didnt take into account !
I think you can just relax that
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You must define what are the enemies of the receiver.
A zero frequency SDR receiver has no IF images.
but it has alias responses, so the reality is that the baseband filters
(I and Q) should be 90dB down outside the passband and at the aliases.
My experience is that this is where
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it due to poor performance.
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I would have thought RAM would have been no issue- coefficients stored in
the FLASH (that's big) , and good packing, use of the RAM ( as the M4
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I have some basic build
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it to be deterministic.
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For cache optimization you have to consider the line size, the cache
line hashing scheme, and how many lines match the same hash. The
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were out of date so tweaked the README a bit ("svn up"
to get the
latest README).
They build as part of codec2-dev.
I'll leave (2) to some one else
- David
On 03/0
Hi All
I am considering retargeting codec2 / sm1000 etc for another micro . a
'21477.
and this will include a rather strong modem.
(or I might stick with stm32F7)
In opinion, just how much of the STMF4 code for codec2 is hard optimized
for the stm?
Without spending alot of time looking at it,
capability
that sleep would not help, you'd have to fix that part.
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Actually I am heading to a prototype of secure modem.
For the encryption of voice, I will use AES-256. But first I have to get
familiar with SM1000. Can you please guide me with a simple led blinking
program and its uploading procedure
I'd expect most ham stuff will produce lots of IPM when worked hard.
The IPM might be your limit on the IC7200
Has anyone measured the IPM ?
oh that's INCIDENTAL PHASE MODULATION.
there is usually an (unwanted) relationship with amplifiers between
amplitude and phase.
IE crosstalk from AM PM.
On the large micros like STMF4, for fast development/ compile run cycles
I run my entire executable out of RAM only transitioning to flash
when I have to disconnect the debugger.
Optimized DSP code from the CMSDSP libraries (which I re compile)
certainly takes a performance hit, but not
exists I'm happy to dig that up.
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ity of FreeDV, this
is a high random doppler profile and will likely spur another
round of development to cope with it.
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(I tried sending this a few days
Nice work Alex
For a lump of code to be using THAT much CPU, and these CPUs are very
capable something must be terribly wrong. maybe turn some of the
optimizations off and see what happens. Can you break it down to
computation effort (something stuck in a loop, loop variable getting
trashed
how about passive PoE connection style ? (IE same pairs, use of
transformers etc)
at least that is a standard.
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> A few people have modified their SM1000 to draw power from their radio
> via the RJ45 connector.
>
> Rick and I have
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is done by the hardware CRC module)
> - 8-bit ROM ID
> - 8-bit block index
> - 8-bit block size
> - 8-bits reserved.
>
> When a write is performed, the data is split into 256-8=248 byte blocks,
> and written to available blocks across the 3 sectors. When a block is
> to be c
yeah but don't believe that
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> parameters measured after 100k cycles. 10 years retention at 105C, 30
> at 55C.
>
> - David
>
> On 26/09/15 21:55, glen english wrote
one some bug fixes:
> http://stuartl.longlandclan.id.au/freedv/sm1000/sm1000-r2402.bin
>
> This actually has working CRC32 calculation, and I haven't heard the
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How well does your power meter respond to high peak to average signals,
IE faithfully measuring peak and PEP ? I've been involved in this with
DRM and DVB.
something to watch, anyway.
Maybe use a TRUPWR (R) device like the AD8362 to measure it.
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B down, and this is communications quality speech so a little
> aliasing is lost in the codec artefacts.
>
> On the radios interface side the audio is band limited by the radio's
> frequency response, ie the xtal filter BW.
>
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> On 18/09/15 15:43, glen english wrote:
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nice one STuart good tutorial
On 12/12/2015 6:32 PM, Stuart Longland wrote:
> On 12/12/15 16:46, Stuart Longland wrote:
>> On 12/12/15 16:38, Steve wrote:
looking at that photo, it's the one on th
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I reckon that is pretty good. As David says, not much compared to what
it is connected to.
I imagine as long as it is not a thermal issue, there is no problem.
Any scope to drop the the power supply it runs from? As the core has the
internal series pass 1.2V regulator. These days I run my STM32
by step. It will
take time and patience.
What is your end use application ? Why encryption ?
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> I want to embed AES-128 in the DV mode of SM1000 for half duplex
> mode. For that
element 14 have STLINKV2s for $30
On 22/11/2015 7:07 PM, Stuart Longland wrote:
> On 22/11/15 08:17, glen english wrote:
>> Stuart, SM1000 has the SWD pins (2 signals) exposed, doesn't it ?
>>
>> use that.
> I would, but I don't have anything (yet) that will plug into S
agreed Bruce
On fixed pt, for those wanting to do a conversion - one thing to
keep in mind precision.
32 bit floats only have approx 7 decimal digit precision
where as a 32 bit int (long) has approx 10 decimal digits.
so you are slightly
omadarshi
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 2:54 PM, glen
english <g...@cortexrf.com.au>
wrote:
Nice one Jereon.
Anomadarshi,
where is your hardware bottleneck- why the sample rate
of an AGC ahead of codec2 might improve results.
regards
glen english
vk1xx
On 12/06/2016 7:08 PM, Anomadarshi
Barua Shuvro wrote:
Hi,
I have been using this codec
Jerome
You could certainly DO a fixed point port
but the amount of work compared to using a floating point processor
makes it a questionable idea.
floating point processors now, except in the very lowest end of the
market, do not generate a financial and power cost penalty like they
used to
to benefit just
> one specific platform.
>
> Better to optimise the vanilla C, or just use a faster chip - MIPs are
> cheap these days.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> On 17/06/16 07:19, glen english wrote:
>> Max, are you using the CMSIS optimized DSP libraries
2016-06-17 10:04 GMT+02:00 Maxime Guyon
<gmax...@gmail.com>:
Hello,
@Steve: Thank you for the hint to define NDEBUG, I
tested it but timing remain approximately the same.
sure that my target should be capable of encode and
decode real time...
Maybe your target is loaded at more that 50%?
Regards,
Max.
2016-06-17 13:27 GMT+02:0
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I usually find O3 fractionally faster but alot of things break that I
dont expect (bad programming habits?). they don't break in O2. some
unexpected assumptions are made...
On 18/06/2016 1:25 PM, Steve wrote:
> Another algorithm that seems to suck a lot of CPU is
>
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