Re: Paypal and Safari 3.1.2

2008-08-29 Thread Dan
At 12:19 AM -0500 8/30/2008, Kris Tilford wrote: > >Webkit Safari is still the only browser to pass the ACID3 test To clarify, for the people that will want to try Acid3... The Acid Tests are fairly good standards testing suits. All you have to do to run them is visit this url:

Re: Mac to MS-DOS (FAT16) File Copy Utility

2008-08-29 Thread Dan
At 9:01 PM -0400 8/29/2008, billycarmacs wrote: >Anyone know what might be going wrong when I try to use the Finder >to copy a folder of mp3 audio files from my Mac (Leopard) to an >Olympus mp3 Player that uses MS-DOS (FAT16) format? [snip] >The files get copied, but they are in the wrong order

Re: Paypal and Safari 3.1.2

2008-08-29 Thread Kris Tilford
On Aug 29, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Dan wrote: > Apple is really good about doing this! > But they don't know to > fix it, if you don't report it! Yes. Reporting Safari bugs is super easy. It's the 2nd item under the Safari menu, "Report Bugs to Apple...". Click that when you're on the offending w

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread paul beard
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If it is tedious there are remedies for that. In my use of Macs at > home and the university I have never encountered Darwin. If it was > something I needed to use I would be aware of it. To dismiss my > conc

Re: Paypal and Safari 3.1.2

2008-08-29 Thread Steve R
At 7:12 PM -0700 8/29/08, Tom posted: > I don't know about PayPal, but from my experience there are some > websites that Safari just won't do. I order hardware from a certain > online supplier, and Safari simply won't send the order. There are three online stores I used that stopped working in

Re: Paypal and Safari 3.1.2

2008-08-29 Thread Dan
At 7:12 PM -0700 8/29/2008, Tom wrote: >I don't know about PayPal, but from my experience there are some >websites that Safari just won't do. I order hardware from a certain >online supplier, and Safari simply won't send the order. At that point, stop what you're doing. Pull down "Report Bugs to

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:18 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > >> Tom wrote: >> >>> Wallace wrote: Trolls are insulting people who insist there view is right. They call people names and rant without reasoning. >>> >>> From Wikipedia: >>> An Inte

Re: Paypal and Safari 3.1.2

2008-08-29 Thread Dan
At 9:28 PM -0400 8/29/2008, Steve R wrote: >At 6:51 PM -0400 8/29/08, Dan posted: >> At 4:32 PM -0400 8/29/2008, Steve R wrote: >>>been struggling with trying to get paypal to accept a payment [...] >>>Everything went normally until the final page when there would be a >>>message that my payment

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Technophobic_Tom
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > Tom wrote: > >> Wallace wrote: >>> Trolls are insulting people who insist there view is right. >>> They call people names and rant without reasoning. >> >> From Wikipedia: >> An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone >> who posts con

Re: Question on emac 1.25 booting

2008-08-29 Thread Len Gerstel
On Aug 29, 2008, at 9:47 PM, pitabu wrote: > > Hi- > I just picked up an emac 1.25 ghz, sans hard drive. Installed 40 gb > hard drive and extra stick of ram. Tried to boot up to Jaguar install > holding down "c"- no deal. It just ejects the cd and gives me the > flashing question mark. I've trie

Re: Paypal and Safari 3.1.2

2008-08-29 Thread Tom
I don't know about PayPal, but from my experience there are some websites that Safari just won't do. I order hardware from a certain online supplier, and Safari simply won't send the order. The company that runs the website said that they had heard from other Safari users who had the same trouble.

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:52 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > >>Apple is a company founded by a couple of phone hackers. the most >>prominent one has been noted for taking risks and espousing >>heretical thinking for all of his days. And many of us including >

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM, paul beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Trolls are insulting people who insist there view is right. They call >> people names and rant without reasoning. Do I fit that

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Technophobic_Tom
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: >Apple is a company founded by a couple of phone hackers. the most >prominent one has been noted for taking risks and espousing >heretical thinking for all of his days. And many of us including >myself admire him for doing so. To think that Steve Jobs could not

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:09 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Starting to feel like we're feeding a troll here . . >> >> Trolls are insulting people who insist there view is right. >> They call people names and rant without reasoning. > > > From Wikipedia: > > An Internet troll, or simply

Question on emac 1.25 booting

2008-08-29 Thread pitabu
Hi- I just picked up an emac 1.25 ghz, sans hard drive. Installed 40 gb hard drive and extra stick of ram. Tried to boot up to Jaguar install holding down "c"- no deal. It just ejects the cd and gives me the flashing question mark. I've tried to reset pram and os9 and osx 10.0.9--no deal. Any tho

Re: Paypal and Safari 3.1.2

2008-08-29 Thread Steve R
At 6:51 PM -0400 8/29/08, Dan posted: > At 4:32 PM -0400 8/29/2008, Steve R wrote: >>been struggling with trying to get paypal to accept a payment [...] >>Everything went normally until the final page when there would be a >>message that my payment was being processed. Within minutes I'd get >>an

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Ted Treen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:23 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Bruce Johnson wrote: >>> >>> Apple is doing JUST FINE the way they are; just because they're not doing what YOU

Mac to MS-DOS (FAT16) File Copy Utility

2008-08-29 Thread billycarmacs
If this isn't an appropriate topic for LEM folks, please advise ... Anyone know what might be going wrong when I try to use the Finder to copy a folder of mp3 audio files from my Mac (Leopard) to an Olympus mp3 Player that uses MS-DOS (FAT16) format? (Its an Olympus WS-300M). Did something

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Technophobic_Tom
>> Starting to feel like we're feeding a troll here . . > > Trolls are insulting people who insist there view is right. > They call people names and rant without reasoning. From Wikipedia: An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and irreleva

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Peter
On Aug 29, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Peter wrote: > I guess that is what most people forget, Apple is in business to > develop and sell hardware that runs a specific Operating System. That > is why you can't compare Apple to any other computer company except > maybe SUN. If I would be Apple, I also wou

Re: Paypal and Safari 3.1.2

2008-08-29 Thread Dan
At 4:32 PM -0400 8/29/2008, Steve R wrote: >been struggling with trying to get paypal to accept a payment [...] >Everything went normally until the final page when there would be a >message that my payment was being processed. Within minutes I'd get >an email (a nice collection of 9 so far) tel

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:04 PM, paul beard wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Johnson < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> Darwin is NOT public domain...it's available under the Apple Public >> Source license. > >> > > tru

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread paul beard
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Johnson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Darwin is NOT public domain...it's available under the Apple Public > Source license. > true enough: it is not necessarily freely distributable (I have no

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread paul beard
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Trolls are insulting people who insist there view is right. They call > people names and rant without reasoning. Do I fit that description? do you really want an answer to that? A broader definition of a tr

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Ted Treen
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:23 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Bruce Johnson wrote: >> >> >>> Apple is doing JUST FINE the way they are; just because they're >>> not doing what YOU want does not mean they're failing. >>> >> Ted Treen wrote: >> >>

Re: Help! Looking for wireless!!

2008-08-29 Thread Dana Collins
On 8/29/08 4:55 PM, Dana Collins of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent > > On 8/29/08 4:26 PM, diane of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent > >> >> Looking for a wireless adapter of some sort that will work with a G4 >> 533 DP. >> >> USB or PCI >> >> Do these exist? I am at Circuit City now and they are all for PC

Re: Help! Looking for wireless!!

2008-08-29 Thread Dana Collins
On 8/29/08 4:26 PM, diane of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent > > Looking for a wireless adapter of some sort that will work with a G4 > 533 DP. > > USB or PCI > > Do these exist? I am at Circuit City now and they are all for PC's > > Thanks so much, > > Diane Hi Diane, Yes there are actually ple

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, paul beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Simon Royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Bruce. Well said. Apple are not Microsoft, they d

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Dan
At 4:01 PM -0400 8/29/2008, Len Gerstel wrote: > >If Apple sells a generic box of OS X, It needs to support any >motherboard that someone might throw at it. Why? Why can't they offer OS X with no support? Software producers regularly provide a list of hardware requirements. If the user doesn'

Paypal and Safari 3.1.2

2008-08-29 Thread Steve R
In the event this might help someone else -- I've been struggling with trying to get paypal to accept a payment since 2 am last night, with a few hours off for sleep. Everything went normally until the final page when there would be a message that my payment was being processed. Within minutes

Help! Looking for wireless!!

2008-08-29 Thread diane
Looking for a wireless adapter of some sort that will work with a G4 533 DP. USB or PCI Do these exist? I am at Circuit City now and they are all for PC's Thanks so much, Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low En

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Dan
At 10:28 AM -0700 8/29/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > Now we just need a ruling that says software is a product just like >> hardware, *in this context*. > >And we need magical flying unicorn ponies too. Whoa there. Leave the Unicorns ALONE. They be immune to thy magiks. - Dan. -- - Psychoc

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 12:00 pm -0700 8/29/08, Bruce Johnson wrote: >I think that neither of our opinions matter worth a >damn in this case >because neither of us are running Apple. To all who have contributed to this thread: I think we are getting perilously close to an old-fashioned flame war. Ti

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Len Gerstel
Not quoting anyone here. Anyone following the thread knows what is in it and anyone not following is not reading it. Argument 1) Give me a way to buy a cheap pc to throw a generic OS X install on. Apple is all about "it just works" in advertising and user experience. For example, take mothe

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread McGrude
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The SCO Group owns Sys5. Didn't the judge rule that Novell owns System 5, and SCO simply had an agreement with SCO for it's licensing? This is why I believe SCO has gotten reamed so bad in that lawsuit. --~--~-

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 29, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: > >> Also, if Apple is all about OS X now why won't it release A/UX to the >> public domain? It is obvious it has no plans to further use it. > > > Because they can't

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 29, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: > Also, if Apple is all about OS X now why won't it release A/UX to the > public domain? It is obvious it has no plans to further use it. Because they can't. It's a Sys5-based system with some BSD flavoring added. The SCO Group owns Sys5. (

Re: I Love This Group

2008-08-29 Thread Mel
I have no objection. Mel --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: I Love This Group To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:54 AM May I copy this text to the Psystar debate th

Re: I Love This Group

2008-08-29 Thread paul beard
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Our old Macs will lose some usefulness if they cannot > somehow share info with the next generations of all platforms." This has more to do with the software vendors than with Apple. -- Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ --~--~-

Re: I Love This Group

2008-08-29 Thread Mel
"Our old Macs will lose some usefulness if they cannot somehow share info with the next generations of all platforms." They can upwards from the old to the new models but not necessarily the reverse. E.G. 1-  I can use OS 6.0.8 or 7.5.3 or 7.6.1 on the IIci.  2- The 7300/180 can read and writ

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread paul beard
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Stephen Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, if Apple is all about OS X now why won't it release A/UX to the > public domain? It is obvious it has no plans to further use it. I asked this question earlier: how has your experience running Darwin as a freely

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Among the score of "distros" there are said to be some far easier to > install and configure. > Stability has always been a main feature of Linux. Shrinkwrapped Linux > is on shelves all over the country and may

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Peter
On Aug 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > >> >> As if being a CEO or CFO was the measure of a man or his right to >> bear >> and express an opinion. > > Who is telling you you can't have an opinion? No one. > >> I wo

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Technophobic_Tom
Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[Linux] is spreading virally. By the time it gets to where the nay >sayers notice it, it will be too late. Apple might be gone. At least >as an OS publisher. As long as Intel Macs run windows there will be >hardware production. Can't follow your argument.

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 29, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > > As if being a CEO or CFO was the measure of a man or his right to bear > and express an opinion. Who is telling you you can't have an opinion? No one. > I wonder how the founding fathers of the USA felt about that. Care to > exc

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread paul beard
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Simon Royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Bruce. Well said. Apple are not Microsoft, they do not just sell OSes. I bet >> the majority of copies of OSX came with Macs. S

Re: I Love This Group

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
May I copy this text to the Psystar debate thread? I think it applies there as well. On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Mel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The key is using what you need, not what others tell you that you should > want. That is what marketing people prefer you to believe and they

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > >>> >>> Pystar and you are bitching about something in a contractual >>> agreement >>> that DOES NOT apply to Pystar...they are not the end user. >> >> Th

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Simon Royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bruce. Well said. Apple are not Microsoft, they do not just sell OSes. I bet > the majority of copies of OSX came with Macs. > Respectfully Simon, As if anyone was brave enough to venture an Apple OS to the greater use

Re: I Love This Group

2008-08-29 Thread Mel
The key is using what you need, not what others tell you that you should want.  That is what marketing people prefer you to believe and they have lots of true believers who will march in lock step and almost stampede to get the latest this or that while not realizing or if realizing, not caring

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:23 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bruce Johnson wrote: > >>Apple is doing JUST FINE the way they are; just because they're >>not doing what YOU want does not mean they're failing. > > > Ted Treen wrote: > >>All these people who know where Apple's going wrong...I wond

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:53 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: >> >> Pystar and you are bitching about something in a contractual >> agreement >> that DOES NOT apply to Pystar...they are not the end user. > > Then please tell us why Apple is suing Psystar again? I believe the > suit specificall

Re: I Love This Group

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Simon Royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been reading some posts over the past few weeks with amazement. I > thought I was a minority with my love of old Macs. > Many of us use OS X on old Macs. not exactly a violation of the EULA but there was much the

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > Keep the Mercedes Bruce. I hope it serves well all of its days . But > please do not deny the rest of us what we need to get by also. You are > privileged. Enjoy the privilege and feel fortunate deep in your being. > I know what it i

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Simon Royal
Bruce. Well said. Apple are not Microsoft, they do not just sell OSes. I bet the majority of copies of OSX came with Macs. Apples market is continuing to rise and OSX has propelled this in the past few years to 8% market share. Mac hardware + Mac OS = Hassle free computing. If I wanted to spe

Re: I Love This Group

2008-08-29 Thread Simon Royal
Yersinia Old Macs are great and while I do own a MacIntel it is a first gen Intel iMac (positively ancient by some peoples standards), my wife hogs this. I prefer my older Macs. I do basic stuff on them; emailing, web and writing so nothing too new is needed. I still love G3s and for basic ne

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Technophobic_Tom
Bruce Johnson wrote: >Apple is doing JUST FINE the way they are; just because they're >not doing what YOU want does not mean they're failing. Ted Treen wrote: >All these people who know where Apple's going wrong...I wonder >how many of them are CEO's of successful IT companies. BINGO !!! --

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:51 PM, paul beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Bruce Johnson >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Wallace Ad

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 29, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Dan wrote: > >> Now we just need a ruling that says software is a product just like >> hardware, *in this context*. > > And we need magical flying unicorn ponies too. > > No way in hell will

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread paul beard
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Bruce Johnson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: >> >>> Well let's say they keep the tight 8ssed act. Where wi

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 29, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Dan wrote: > Now we just need a ruling that says software is a product just like > hardware, *in this context*. And we need magical flying unicorn ponies too. No way in hell will this case produce such a ruling unless the judge goes unfathomably beyond his/her aut

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > >> Well let's say they keep the tight 8ssed act. Where willthey be in 5 >> years? You have to admit that both MS and Apple must acknowledge the >> rapid

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:11 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > Well let's say they keep the tight 8ssed act. Where willthey be in 5 > years? You have to admit that both MS and Apple must acknowledge the > rapid recent movement in the market by Linux. No they don't...because there is none. T

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Dan wrote: > >> >> At 8:26 AM -0700 8/28/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: >>> WOW. Pystar must have hired SCO's legal team. That's 'epic fail' >>> territory. >> >> I donno. I think it has a shot.

Re: Airport 9.52 in POwerMac G4 Drops connectivity when idle for 20-30 min.

2008-08-29 Thread J.W. Lane
Hello All, I changed the channel from 11 to 5 and this didn't really provide any change for me. I then turned OFF the energy saving sleep which was set to 20 min. and the problem disappeared. I even set the channel back to 11 and this seems to work. Apparantly when the machine goes to sleep and is

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Dan
At 8:54 AM -0700 8/29/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: >Apple is free to put any damn thing in their EULA that they want, if >you accept it, that's the contract. No, that's not true. Courts have ruled that such blanket agreements must be evaluated clause by clause. If a clause (condition, restrict

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Ted Treen
Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Aug 28, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Dan wrote: > > >> At 8:26 AM -0700 8/28/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> >>> WOW. Pystar must have hired SCO's legal team. That's 'epic fail' >>> territory. >>> >> I donno. I think it has a shot. >> >> *Someone* *somewhere* needs t

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Aug 28, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 8:26 AM -0700 8/28/2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: >> WOW. Pystar must have hired SCO's legal team. That's 'epic fail' >> territory. > > I donno. I think it has a shot. > > *Someone* *somewhere* needs to challenge the crap companies load in > these EUL

Re: I Love This Group

2008-08-29 Thread Yersinia
Simon writes, and Mel writes, ;-) Definitely not. I must say, I find this thread both interesting and surprising, because I remember when, as it was only a couple of years ago, when my Main Macs were my Beige G3 desktop (OS 9.2.2) and my Powerbook 5300c (OS 8.6) -- on numerous occasions,

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Peter
On Aug 28, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Dan wrote: > >> Don't get me wrong the OS is what makes us Mac users, but I don't >> think I would feel quite the same sitting in from of a Dell with OSX >> installed. > > Nothing some krylon and a few stickers can't fix. :) Funny, as MacOS comes with free stickers

Re: Anti Trust Hackin' back . Psystar answers and stands firm.

2008-08-29 Thread Dan
At 10:39 PM -0400 8/28/2008, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > >Unless Apple insists on it, it would not have to be OS X, but as I >have proposed all along for months now it would be an Apple PC OS. Once you have a great name established, it really doesn't pay to change it much. From the last W