Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread Ted Treen
From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 18 December, 2008 3:56:53 PM Subject: Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be At 10:44 PM + 12/17/2008, Ted Treen wrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: What many here

Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues?

2008-12-19 Thread Ted Treen
From: insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 18 December, 2008 8:28:54 PM Subject: Re: Anyone know anything about IOPCI2PCIBridge issues? On Dec 18, 2008, at 2:15 PM, nestamicky wrote: insightinmind wrote:

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread MIKO ..
OK, really, who cares about arguiing over claims? Can I buy a cheap Mac-compatible machine with the power of a Mc Pro or not? I'll NEVER be able justify affording the $3000+ for a barebones Mac Pro! Suze Orman already DENIED me. LOL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread Ted Treen
MIKO .. wrote: OK, really, who cares about arguiing over claims? Can I buy a cheap Mac-compatible machine with the power of a Mc Pro or not? I'll NEVER be able justify affording the $3000+ for a barebones Mac Pro! Suze Orman already DENIED me. LOL Yes. I'll NEVER be able to justify

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread MIKO ..
On Dec 19, 2008, at 2:57 AM, Ted Treen wrote: If Apple's business model works for them - and it certainly appears to - then it's better for all of us if they continue to thrive, and not go belly-up like so many other companies who have tried too hard to be all things to all men. Here

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread Ted Treen
MIKO .. wrote: On Dec 19, 2008, at 2:57 AM, Ted Treen wrote: If Apple's business model works for them - and it certainly appears to - then it's better for all of us if they continue to thrive, and not go belly-up like so many other companies who have tried too hard to be all

Re: Best G4 Desktop

2008-12-19 Thread dc
For under $500 you can pick up a dual 1.8 GHz G5. They are air cooled, don't have the coolant leak problems of later models. The bus speed is about 6x faster than any G4, they can hold up to 5 hard drives and 4 GB RAM, the components are easy to get to. They have much better cooling than G4s. My

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread James E. Therrault
Charles Davis wrote: On Dec 18, 2008, at 10:36 PM, James E. Therrault wrote: John Callahan wrote: Profit margins include all expenses. JT Would someone make note of the fact that operating costs which include RD are deductibles when it comes to State and Federal taxes? Uh,

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 19, 2008, at 4:31 AM, Ted Treen wrote (well, MIKO wrote the quoted part): The problem is that it was not always- and is only recently- their business model! There used to be affordable G4 towers with extra drive bays and slots and such and now all we've got, before investing

Re: Best G4 Desktop

2008-12-19 Thread Vic
On Dec 18, 12:25 pm, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: And by best I mean, which of these G4 Desktop-Sawtooth, DA, etc is best to get for optimum upgrade? I have a Sawtooth now, but feel as though I could put some money on and upgrade a better machine in this line. So, which one is

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread MIKO ..
On Dec 19, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Also, never, ever forget that you have to compare historical prices in a constant dollar fashion. Actually, gulp- I just never realized that they used to cost so much new! Despite that though I have never understood why they are simply

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread Dan
At 12:03 PM -0800 12/19/2008, MIKO .. wrote: On Dec 19, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Also, never, ever forget that you have to compare historical prices in a constant dollar fashion. Actually, gulp- I just never realized that they used to cost so much new! Ah, those were the

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 19, 2008, at 1:03 PM, MIKO .. wrote: I remember that I had a Quadra 605 and I was definitely not rich when I bought that- That's the same costs as an iMac 20 today, $1300. About right; They were the continuation of the LC series, for 'Low Cost...the Mac II for the rest of us :-)

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread Sam Macomber
In 1995 I paid $1,000 for my IIci 240MB HDD, 32MB RAM, Daystar Turbo601/66 accelerator card, 10 BaseT ethernet, and 14 apple monitor. I added a Supermac thunder/24 video card and a PAS 16 Audio card. (those cost me $100)Sold my powerbook 180 to pay for it, as I recall I still had

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread MIKO ..
On Dec 19, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: ?? If you're doing the kinds of stuff you do with computers than need multiple video cards and lots of high=speed internal storage, you more than likely need the added power of a Mac Pro anyway. No kidding ! need a Mac Pro! And yet I don't

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread John Callahan
On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:46 PM, Charles Davis wrote: Yeah!! Yeah!! I know what you mean, but it buggs me to hear Tax deductable, when in fact It's an INCOME deduction when calculating tax liability. Say what you mean, and Mean what you say. And don't let the mentally lazy determine how

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread Charles Davis
On Dec 19, 2008, at 6:37 PM, John Callahan wrote: On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:46 PM, Charles Davis wrote: Yeah!! Yeah!! I know what you mean, but it buggs me to hear Tax deductable, when in fact It's an INCOME deduction when calculating tax liability. Say what you mean, and Mean what

1 GB RAM Recommended

2008-12-19 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
Hi - Trying to install Adobe CS. I thought I was all ready, have 896 MB of RAM. It sez here (http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/design/ systemreqs/?promoid=DRHWP) 1GB of RAM or more recommended so why won't the Installer let me install? It doesn't say required. Any workaround?

Re: TOPIC: Apple Psystar Why it came to be

2008-12-19 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
I got my G4 733 mHz Quicksilver in early 2002 when they stopped making it for $1399. It is still going strong for the most part, and hasn't needed out of warranty repairs, all I have shelled out has been for 2 OS upgrades, Jaguar and Tiger. So ... do the math. This is one affordable

Re: 1 GB RAM Recommended

2008-12-19 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 19/12/2008 17:02 earth...@ptd.net said: Hi - Trying to install Adobe CS. I thought I was all ready, have 896 MB of RAM. It sez here (http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/design/ systemreqs/?promoid=DRHWP) 1GB of RAM or more recommended so why won't the

Re: 1 GB RAM Recommended

2008-12-19 Thread Mike Baker
Your best bet is to get a 256 MB RAM module and replace the 128 MB RAM module with it, or if you have four RAM slots, add another 128 MB RAM module. I just took the RAM in my G$ Sawtooth from 896 RAM to 1.5 GB RAM. It has four slots, so the first two slots are 512 MB RAM modules and the last

Re: Best G4 Desktop

2008-12-19 Thread Bucky
On Dec 19, 11:25 am, Vic vma...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 18, 12:25 pm, nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: And by best I mean, which of these G4 Desktop-Sawtooth, DA, etc is best to get for optimum upgrade? I have a Sawtooth now, but feel as though I could put some money on and

Re: After a Nuke Pave (10.5.5/6) ... Back to (10.5.4)

2008-12-19 Thread insightinmind
Keeping it relatively brief: my Sonnet Tango FW/USB no longer danced/ played well with the others under 10.5.4 (also projecting to 10.5.5 and 10.5.6) ... maybe its age ... maybe 10.5.4(5,6) // USB/FW ... now finishing up Steve's suggested Nuke Pave back to 10.5.4, using my original

Re: 1 GB RAM Recommended

2008-12-19 Thread Paxton
Trying to install Adobe CS. I thought I was all ready, have 896 MB of RAM. It sez here (http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/design/ systemreqs/?promoid=DRHWP) 1GB of RAM or more recommended so why won't the Installer let me install? CS4 doesn't work on your Quicksilver. you

MAIL program- Drafts and Outbox?

2008-12-19 Thread MIKO ..
I'm using Leopard. I'm probably spacing out but- why don't I always see an Outbox or Drafts folder? I've seen the drafts folder come and go, but never (or rarely) the outbox- and I know I'm sending a large zip file right now- so whewre can I easily go to see the file on its way out? I'm

Re: 1 GB RAM Recommended

2008-12-19 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
Hi! Yeah, I see it but I could have sworn my machine passed the requirements. I checked them again and again. But oh well. Anne Keller Smith Down to Earth Web Design G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11 Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive,

Re: Best G4 Desktop

2008-12-19 Thread Paul
From reading these suggestions, it sounds like if you're very low budget, start with a Digital Audio and then wait for G5's to get cheaper. On the other hand, if you have the money (and perhaps the workload to justify it), the G5's are worth a serious look instead.

Re: 1 GB RAM Recommended

2008-12-19 Thread Paxton
Hi! Yeah, I see it but I could have sworn my machine passed the requirements. I checked them again and again. Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5 This machine was not mentioned in the original post. CS4 should install in an intel iMac. One thing I noticed is

Re: 1 GB RAM Recommended

2008-12-19 Thread Anne Keller-Smith
On Dec 19, 2008, at 8:14 PM, Mike Baker wrote: Your best bet is to get a 256 MB RAM module and replace the 128 MB RAM module with it, or if you have four RAM slots, add another 128 MB RAM module. I just took the RAM in my G$ Sawtooth from 896 RAM to 1.5 GB RAM. It has four slots, so

Re: MAIL program- Drafts and Outbox?

2008-12-19 Thread Brian Christmas
On 20/12/2008, at 4:11 PM, MIKO .. wrote: I'm using Leopard. I'm probably spacing out but- why don't I always see an Outbox or Drafts folder? I've seen the drafts folder come and go, but never (or rarely) the outbox- and I know I'm sending a large zip file right now- so whewre can I

Re: Best G4 Desktop

2008-12-19 Thread Paul
From reading these suggestions, it sounds like if you're very low budget, start with a Digital Audio and then wait for G5's to get cheaper. On the other hand, if you have the money (and perhaps the workload to justify it), the G5's are worth a serious look instead.