Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread Jake Zeppa
I just picked up a dual 1.25 MDD to replace my slow dual 450 giga. None the less, I've spent the last few hours fighting a problem transferring data from my old drive (80gb WD ata/100), to a Deskstar 80gb ata/100, and I figured it would be best to ask the experts (you guys). The drive that

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:39 AM, Jake Zeppa wrote: I just picked up a dual 1.25 MDD to replace my slow dual 450 giga. None the less, I've spent the last few hours fighting a problem transferring data from my old drive (80gb WD ata/100), to a Deskstar 80gb ata/100, and I figured it would be

Re: Script Issue #2

2010-02-21 Thread Dan
At 8:56 AM -0700 2/20/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I have NoScript and AdBlock Plus installed on FF I go the BUSY SCRIPT or SCRIPT NOT RESPONDING warning box on this site

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Jonas Lopez
From: Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net Subject: Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 6:42 PM Dude, you're unbelievably paranoid. It's not hidden in firmware, or in a special section of the HD.

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Chance Reecher
No perv is going to go as far as to invest in enterprise level surveilence software just to peek. And I gave a good answer. Sorry if my casual introduction ticked you off. Chance Sent from my iPhone On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Chance

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Dan
At 7:40 AM -0800 2/21/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote: As is sometimes true with a public posting, too much info and it does not get posted, too little and the reasons are not understood. At the very least, this is not a discussion about how much I like my Mac that was posted last week Jonas,

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Dan wrote: Bottom line: Whenever you get your paws on a used computer or HD, ERASE the HD! -- -- You don't know, and you don't need to care.

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Dan wrote: Bottom line: Whenever you get your paws on a used computer or HD, ERASE the HD!

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Dan
At 9:17 AM -0800 2/21/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Whenever you get your paws on a used computer or HD, ERASE the HD! Please erase the hard drive before Dan explodes! You must want to see stuff on that HDD bad enough too try and get off any spy stuff first??? Other wise you'd just do a zero

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread ===( )8
Dan writes, I can't just zero a drive. I always have to look first! LOL Now we KNOW why you kept saying just zero the HD in the prior posts -- and why I personally never gave away or otherwise discarded computers without doing just that -- way before this webcam crap even existed. LOL

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Dan wrote: At 9:17 AM -0800 2/21/2010, John Carmonne wrote: Whenever you get your paws on a used computer or HD, ERASE the HD! Please erase the hard drive before Dan explodes! You must want to see stuff on that HDD bad enough too try and get off any spy

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread McGrude
This is the best way to delete your data http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQYPCPB1g3o -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Bill Connelly
On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:26 PM, McGrude wrote: This is the best way to delete your data http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQYPCPB1g3o Thanks ... I needed that,. Should the lefty be wearing that watch? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:39 AM, Jake Zeppa wrote: I just picked up a dual 1.25 MDD to replace my slow dual 450 giga. None the less, I've spent the last few hours fighting a problem transferring data from my old drive (80gb WD ata/100), to a Deskstar 80gb ata/100, and I figured it would be

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Clark Martin wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:39 AM, Jake Zeppa wrote: I just picked up a dual 1.25 MDD to replace my slow dual 450 giga. None the less, I've spent the last few hours fighting a problem transferring data from my old drive (80gb WD ata/100), to

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:17 AM, John Carmonne wrote: \ You must want to see stuff on that HDD bad enough too try and get off any spy stuff first??? Other wise you'd just do a zero init and move on:-( I got a full copy of Spectre off of a Mac Performa I found in the trash at the side of

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/21/10 10:58 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Clark Martin wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:39 AM, Jake Zeppa wrote: I just picked up a dual 1.25 MDD to replace my slow dual 450 giga. None the less, I've spent the last few hours fighting a problem transferring data

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/21/10 11:04 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:17 AM, John Carmonne wrote: \ You must want to see stuff on that HDD bad enough too try and get off any spy stuff first??? Other wise you'd just do a zero init and move on:-( I got a full copy of Spectre off of a Mac Performa

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 21, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Clark Martin wrote: On 2/21/10 10:58 AM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Clark Martin wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:39 AM, Jake Zeppa wrote: I just picked up a dual 1.25 MDD to replace my slow dual 450 giga. None the less, I've spent

Re: Script Issue #2

2010-02-21 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 8:56 AM -0700 2/20/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I have NoScript and AdBlock Plus installed on FF I go the BUSY SCRIPT or SCRIPT NOT RESPONDING warning box on this site

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Dan
At 11:20 AM -0800 2/21/2010, Clark Martin wrote: I got one machine from a local medical center with all sorts of notes on treatment but none was patient data. I think if I had I might have reported it. I do look at people's data, mostly out of curiosity as to how careless people can be.

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread Jake Zeppa
Thanks for the reply's everyone. I don't know if it matters, but the Deskstar drive has 10.4 on it, where the drive with all my info is 10.2. I don't own Diskwarrior, but I'm trying to search for a copy. I also unfortunately don't own a 10.4 install disk (I got the drive with it already

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Clark Martin wrote: I've gotten a whole slew of programs off systems I've acquired. I never have gotten one from the side of the road or from dumpster diving. I contemplated picking up an iMac at the dump when I was dropping stuff off but it was no better

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Dan wrote: heh. Our home phone number is a logical transpo of a local doctor's office. Once or twice a month, we get their faxes, usually from one particular insurance company. The faxes include all sorts of patient information, always with full names

Webcam program search for internet access, best or what

2010-02-21 Thread Jonas Lopez
List rules allow once removed question: Webcam program search for Internet access, best or what Acquired webcam and while at work wanted to check up on my dogs and any other trespassers that just might be in my house. Got Skype, Messenger, and iChat - do you know of any others? The problem is

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread John Musbach
On 2/21/10, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: I've received HDs containing patient data several times. Each time I contacted the *patient*, not the seller. ha, I bought a se/30 off eBay and it turned out to have been previously used by a secretary at kpmg and they hadn't erased the hard drive

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 21, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Jake Zeppa wrote: Thanks for the reply's everyone. I don't know if it matters, but the Deskstar drive has 10.4 on it, where the drive with all my info is 10.2. I don't own Diskwarrior, but I'm trying to search for a copy. I also unfortunately don't own a

Better GPU for G4 Digi Audio?

2010-02-21 Thread Michael G.M.
I've done a little cleaning and GPU swapping in my dear old DA. The first card I was using was the ATi retail AGP card that I liked, but it's way slow for Leo, but is great for Panther and OS 9. Now I've switched back to my Geforce4 ti 4600 that is way more snappy for Leo, but doesn't play some

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/21/10 12:28 PM, John Musbach wrote: On 2/21/10, Dandantear...@gmail.com wrote: I've received HDs containing patient data several times. Each time I contacted the *patient*, not the seller. ha, I bought a se/30 off eBay and it turned out to have been previously used by a secretary at

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Samuel Macomber
I then format the drive, I don't bother zeroing it, that's a waste of time. And how exactly do you format these modern IDE and SATA drives? with a sledgehammer.Actually I usually take the drive apart, those magnets work great on the fridge. Than smash the remains.Found laptop

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Kyle Hansen
On 2/21/10 1:52 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: And how exactly do you format these modern IDE and SATA drives? High level format as if you didn't know. -- Clark Martin If they are clients or friends I format the drives with a 5lb. Sledge Hammer and tell then put a new drive in

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread Jake Zeppa
Thanks for the idea. I gave it a try but no luck. I'm also getting a Keys Out Of Order warning now from Disk utility. I also gave the FSCK command trick a try, and ran it multiple times without luck. I have a feeling I'm left with one option, formatting, and installing a new OS. Diskwarrior

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread Kasey Smith
I've heard that the big thing in Leo is Spaces, and its something i wish Tiger had. On Feb 21, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Jake Zeppa wrote: Thanks for the idea. I gave it a try but no luck. I'm also getting a Keys Out Of Order warning now from Disk utility. I also gave the FSCK command trick a

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 21, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Jake Zeppa wrote: Thanks for the idea. I gave it a try but no luck. I'm also getting a Keys Out Of Order warning now from Disk utility. I also gave the FSCK command trick a try, and ran it multiple times without luck. I have a feeling I'm left with one

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 21, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: I've heard that the big thing in Leo is Spaces, and its something i wish Tiger had. On Feb 21, 2010, at 4:48 PM, Jake Zeppa wrote: Thanks for the idea. I gave it a try but no luck. I'm also getting a Keys Out Of Order warning now from

Re: Hard drive issues with a MDD 1.25

2010-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/21/10 3:48 PM, Jake Zeppa wrote: On a side note, since 10.4 and 10.5 cost the same used, what are the pro's and cons of each on my dual 1.25 MDD (1gb of ram)? I read I may take a slight hit in performance, but is this all, and haw big of one? Does 10.5 offer me anything useful 10.4

Re: Webcam program search for internet access, best or what

2010-02-21 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 12:09 pm -0800 2/21/10, Jonas Lopez wrote: List rules allow once removed question: Webcam program search for Internet access, best or what Acquired webcam and while at work wanted to check up on my dogs and any other trespassers that just might be in my house. Got Skype,

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 21, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Our old voice phone number was one off from a local lumber company. Most of the calls were if they were open. I was awful tempted sometimes to give them the wrong info. LOL. I just remembered, my wife's number when she was a teen was

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 21, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Clark Martin wrote: I guess it's cheaper to shred the drive than to wipe it fully. Cheaper, faster, and in some cases, for security reasons, mandatory. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not

Re: Webcam program search for internet access, best or what

2010-02-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Acquired webcam and while at work wanted to check up on my dogs and any other trespassers that just might be in my house. Got Skype, Messenger, and iChat - do you know of any others? Go back in the earlier thread, I posted a link to a how to

Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Kasey Smith
It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to this wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and iBooks up to 2005 (when Tiger was released) used ADB for the keyboard and trackpad. I just posted this because i had read somewhere on a page about the Grififn iMate that Apple

Re: Webcam program search for internet access, best or what

2010-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/21/10 5:47 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote: Acquired webcam and while at work wanted to check up on my dogs and any other trespassers that just might be in my house. Got Skype, Messenger, and iChat - do you know of any others? Go back in the

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Bob Whiton
At 6:54 PM -0700 2/21/10, Kasey Smith wrote: It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_desktop_busthis wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and iBooks up to 2005 (when Tiger was released) used ADB for the keyboard and trackpad. I just

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread romantic
I hope you now have a better understanding of my motives and by the way, thanks for all the good answers posted. jml I think we have a better understanding. Go fish somewhere else. Warm regards, Rt -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread John Carmonne
On Feb 21, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to this wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and iBooks up to 2005 (when Tiger was released) used ADB for the keyboard and trackpad. I just posted this because i had read

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 21, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: At 6:54 PM -0700 2/21/10, Kasey Smith wrote: It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_desktop_busthis wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and iBooks up to 2005 (when Tiger was

Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-21 Thread Jonas Lopez
Need for list message morphing rule Since I am the author of a post that has now morphed into an entirely inappropriate commentary on how to kill a hd, and since this list is always monitored and those Niamey's should refuse to publish such morphed replies, I ask the question in keeping with

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Caleb S. Cupples
On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 21:38 -0500, Bob Whiton wrote: Wrong. My 2004 iBook only has USB and Firewire. I've never seen a G4 Mac with ADB. Check the Apple web site for machine specs, not Wikipedia. Bob Bob, The internal interface for the keyboard and trackpad were ADB, even though the

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-21 Thread Chance Reecher
This is, and should remain an unmoderated list. It keeps the playing field level. If you don't like it, take your questions/comments elsewhere. Don't whine and complain. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: Need for list message morphing rule Since I am

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-21 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 11:09 pm -0500 2/21/10, Chance Reecher wrote: This is, and should remain an unmoderated list. It keeps the playing field level. If you don't like it, take your questions/comments elsewhere. Don't whine and complain. I beg your pardon: From

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-21 Thread Chance Reecher
I understand that we have nannies overseeing the group. What I mean by unmoderated is that when someone posts, their post doesn't have to be approved, as is the case on the Swaplist. The OP is suggesting that this list be moderated, so their threads don't get off-topic. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-21 Thread John Musbach
On 2/21/10, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: Need for list message morphing rule Since I am the author of a post that has now morphed into an entirely inappropriate commentary on how to kill a hd, and since this list is always monitored and those Niamey's should refuse to publish such

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/21/10 7:18 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: At 6:54 PM -0700 2/21/10, Kasey Smith wrote: It would be hard for Apple to have dropped ADB because, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_desktop_busthis wikipedia article, the PowerBooks and

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-21 Thread Paul Stamsen
Previously, at 11:50 pm -0500 2/21/10, Chance Reecher wrote: I understand that we have nannies overseeing the group. What I mean by unmoderated is that when someone posts, their post doesn't have to be approved, as is the case on the Swaplist. The OP is suggesting that this list be moderated, so

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Dana Collins
On 2/21/10 8:38 PM, Bruce Johnson of john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu sent On Feb 21, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Our old voice phone number was one off from a local lumber company. Most of the calls were if they were open. I was awful tempted sometimes to give them the wrong

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread PETER WARNER
On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Dana Collins wrote: Our old voice phone number was one off from a local lumber company. Most of the calls were if they were open. I was awful tempted sometimes to give them the wrong info. LOL. I just remembered, my wife's number when she was a teen was one

Re: Better GPU for G4 Digi Audio?

2010-02-21 Thread Michael G.M.
Hello, Anyone out there? I'm thinking maybe the ATi 7000 or the 9200 AGP cards might fit the bill. - Mike -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Bill Christensen
At 5:01 PM -0500 2/21/10, Samuel Macomber wrote: with a sledgehammer.Actually I usually take the drive apart, those magnets work great on the fridge. Than smash the remains. Found laptop drive are the best for protecting your data, the platters are plastic so they shatter into a

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Bill Christensen wrote: At 5:01 PM -0500 2/21/10, Samuel Macomber wrote: with a sledgehammer.Actually I usually take the drive apart, those magnets work great on the fridge. Than smash the remains. Found laptop drive are the best for protecting your

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Kasey Smith
On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On 2/21/10 7:18 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: It didn't have an external ADB plug, it was purely to run the *internal* keyboard and trackpad. My G4 iBook running Leopard shows no USB devices,

Re: Need for list message morphing rule

2010-02-21 Thread Wallace Adrian D'Alessio
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Chance Reecher cha...@reecher.net wrote: This is, and should remain an unmoderated list. It keeps the playing field level. If you don't like it, take your questions/comments elsewhere. Don't whine and complain. ___ I guess you

Re: Hidden Remote Webcam activation is it in Firmware, HD, or PRAM?

2010-02-21 Thread Clark Martin
On 2/21/10 9:57 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: Im wondering how plastic platters hold data as hard drives are a magnetic based storage medium o.O Metal hard drive platters are aluminum (non-magnetic). In either case they use a sputtered magnetic metal coating. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA,

Re: Proof that Apple could not have dropped ADB support in Tiger and Leo

2010-02-21 Thread Mike Linnett
On 22 Feb 2010, at 06:00, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On 2/21/10 7:18 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Bob Whiton wrote: It didn't have an external ADB plug, it was purely to run the *internal* keyboard and