Re: G4 won't finish booting

[Glen McKnight]

On 6 Mar 2018, at 08:26, Jörg Duurkoop wrote:

> 
> 
> Op vrijdag 23 februari 2018 16:28:25 UTC+1 schreef Diane:
> I have a 2003 G4 1.42DP (FW800)
> With the exception of a couple of hard drive replacements and a power supply 
> back in 2011, it's been bomb proof.
> The other day though, it started to shutdown on boot (it had been running for 
> weeks prior to this). I googled and found many references to this but mostly 
> with a display with a proximity sensor, which I do not have.
> I pulled it out of it's cubby and will clean it out, but I'd also like to 
> replace the battery while it's open. 
> What's the best place to buy them these days? I used to get them at Radio 
> Shack but they are no longer around.
> Worse case I have a couple of older machines that I suppose I can fire up and 
> put my drive in to get my data off, but ideally I'd like to get this going 
> again.
> Any thoughts? It just spins on the grey screen for a couple of minutes and 
> then shuts down. I usually screen share into it so I'm not sure if it was 
> doing something else prior. It did sound like it booted fully the fist time. 
> Earlier this week I had it up and running for awhile but it wasn't connected 
> to the network so that's when I shut it down and this happened.
> 
> Thanks
> Diane
> 
> Hi Diane,

Have you tried booting from the install DVD and running disk first aid?

It will assess the disk and you may repair if needed, and repair permissions.




Have Fun

Glen



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Re: Blinking

['Glen Allvord' via G-Group]

 

On Monday, October 9, 2017, 5:30:43 PM EDT, Bruce Johnson 
 wrote:  
 
 
> On Oct 9, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Jörg  wrote:
> 
> BTW which would be your favorite (most reliable) G5? I would like to get one 
> eventually. Could I keep using my HDs, cards and RAM?
> 

Rather than going to the G5 you could consider an old  Intel Mac that can run 
10.6. When my G5 failed I found a 20 in. 2009 iMac that would run my Adobe CS 
apps and likely most other software used with 10.4.11. You can add your MDD 
drives with external FireWire enclosure(s). The iMac can handle more RAM than 
an MDD and I think  a second monitor. And you get the benefit of a more modern 
web browser if you need it.

I will admit the dual 2.5 GHz LCS G5 that replaced my MDD dual 1.25 GHz  was a 
step up in speed until its power supply failed. The G5 PS is difficult and 
expensive to replace.


I still use a very old G4 Sawtooth with a very fast dual 1.25 GHz upgrade and 2 
GB RAM for many chores and it is only a little slower than my old MDD but its 
days are numbered.


  

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Re: Fix or Replace 1GHz G4

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 From: nick.rhind <nick.rh...@umassmed.edu>
 To: G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 4:41 PM
 Subject: Fix or Replace 1GHz G4
  
I have a 1GHz mirrored-door G4 (M8689) that I need to run a piece of legacy lab 
equipment.  It boots up fine and seems to run well, but after several minutes 
the monitor turns off and, a few moments later, the computer shuts down.  For 
what it is worth, the fan has been running constantly for the past few months.  
If anyone has any advice about how to repair the poor old thing, I would 
greatly appreciate it.  If not, suggestions for a good source for a replacement 
would be useful.  My online searches have not but fruitful.
-It
 could be a power supply or maybe just an overheating problem.
Years ago when I got a used MDD it had a huge build up of dust bunnies the size 
of rodent mice underneath the Darth Vader grill at the bottom of the tower. I 
blew them out with a commercial air compressor. They can be removed manually if 
you have the patience. So, check for dust everywhere.
If that does not work, depending on your software requirements older Intel 
Mac's can run OS 10.5. When my G5 died I went to an older G4 and an Intel iMac 
running 10.5 which worked for my legacy graphics software. --glen

   

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Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11?

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Are special ATI drivers needed? I used this card in an MDD in 9.2.2 and 10.4.11 
with no problems. I thought the drivers were in the system software. Am I 
missing something?
  From: Kris Tilford 
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 Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 
9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11?
   
On Dec 17, 2016, at 1:43 AM, W. Neal Lewis  wrote:


The Wayback Machine (Internet Archive) has gone far too political for me to 
stomach. So thank you for the suggestion, but not going there.


How can an ‘archive’ be political? It’s like a public library, it doesn’t 
create content, it preserves content. You’re saying it preserves the ‘wrong’ 
content for your personal politics?

I plan to check with AMD to see if the software is still available from them.


You’re about a decade too late. The minute AMD bought ATI, all the old ATI 
software was lost, the ATI website disappeared, you couldn’t get any meaningful 
response from AMD. You’re gonna be outta luck here, unless you find an archive 
site.


It is rather interesting, but a very large number of the old sites have 
vanished without a trace.


Welcome to the future. A PPC Mac isn’t going to help much here. For the price 
of Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition you could get an entire hackintosh that supports 
current software standards. I’ve been given free computers 10x as powerful as a 
PPC G4. From an energy usage standpoint, you could probably pay for a new 
computer with the energy savings alone. This is why LCD monitors replaced CRT 
so quickly, the energy savings alone paid for the new monitor, same as with LED 
lighting. A laptop provides the best flops per dollar/watt for normalized 
consumer use. Old 2008-2009 Mac Minis & laptops can run Sierra using Sierra 
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Re: Adobe CS2 licence broken

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I did not have any problems moving my CS2 from a G5 back to a G4 a few months 
ago.

Adobe did changed the old link to the CS2 download page with the needed 
activation numbers. However the activation numbers on the new page are the same 
as the old page.

The new link is:
http://www.adobe.com/downloads/other-downloads.html

You can download a copy of the old Adobe CS2 page from my Dropbox at:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2y6e0kdtdytgvd/Adobe%20CS2%20%20Downloads.zip?dl=0

Maybe reinstall CS2??? Good luck, glen



On Fri, 9/9/16, Jörg Duurkoop <yaw...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Adobe CS2 licence broken
 To: "G-Group" <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Friday, September 9, 2016, 2:00 PM
 
 Hi,
 
 I've been using the Adobe CS2 suite for many years
 without problems. My MDD had crashed recently and after I
 put my recent CCC backup back on my crashed volume I cannot
 use CS2 anymore. The app tells me that my trial period has
 expired but when I try to activate it again no cigar. The
 server is not online ...
 
 What gives? Isn't good ole CS2 free nowadays? Any
 comments? Thanks a lot.
 
 Best regards, Jörg.
 
 
 
 
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Re: My G5 problems (resurrecting two PowerMac G5 computers)

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IIRC, I used four 6-32 UNC metal round head screws to add a second HD to my G5 
a few years ago. It was not a perfect fit and it may have been more difficult 
to install the drive than it would with the standard Apple scews but it worked 
for me. I think the trick was not to screw them in all the way and leave a 
little space for the head to catch the guides. But that was a long time ago so 
my memory is a bit fuzzy.
However, I would not recommend shipping the G5 with the HD installed with these 
screws. --glen


  From: TVirkkala <multi...@wirkman.com>
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 Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:54 PM
 Subject: Re: My G5 problems (resurrecting two PowerMac G5 computers)
   
Thanks, Dana, re:

> You do not need railings or sleds for the HDs on a G5. You DO need  
> four convex standout screws that screw into the hard drive sides are  
> are used as guides for the drive to slide down the visible channels  
> in the HD bay sides - top drive goes in first, starting in the  
> middle channel (it corrects itself as the drive is inserted, ending  
> in the top channel), then the second drive goes straight into the  
> bottom third channel.
> The screws are plastic, and of course, being Apple, unique in design- 
> the heads are rounded and polished - regular HD screws will catch on  
> the glides.

I probably have them in one of my little parts bins hanging around the  
office, stuck in the corners

t

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Re: Beige G3 startup problem

[Glen McKnight]

> On 27 May 2016, at 04:33, Kris Tilford wrote:
> 
> On May 26, 2016, at 7:48 PM, parallel_imp <hillsid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> As I was trying different PCI cards, it started to not respond to the power 
>> button.
> 
> I assume you’re saying “I think I shorted out the power supply & VRM” but did 
> you confirm either the power supply or VRM was bad?
> 
>> There were the correct power supply and VRM on eBay from my own city, so I 
>> got and installed them. G3 still would not boot from power button, but it 
>> would from keyboard.
> 
>> I removed the power button and swapped it for one from a G3 MT parts 
>> machine, and still no boot from the button. However, now the machine when 
>> shut down immediately reboots, whether with no button, original button or 
>> the MT button. I have to turn off the power strip to shut down, and it boots 
>> as soon as power strip is turned on. Thoughts? Did I fry a circuit on the 
>> motherboard?
> 
> Beige G3 are super finicky. The PRAM & NVRAM do NOT necessarily reset 
> correctly using keyboard commands. The easy solution would normally be to 
> remove the PRAM battery and press the CUDA reset button, BUT the beige has 
> capacitors in the power supply & VRM that leak residual power back into the 
> motherboard so that even with the PRAM battery & CUDA reset pushed the 
> PRAM/NVRAM do NOT reset.
> 
> The ONLY way to reset the beige back to original PRAM/NVRAM settings is to 
> remove the PRAM battery, and then also removed the power supply cables to the 
> motherboard, pull the VRM, THEN press the CUDA reset button. If it still 
> doesn’t work, let it sit 15 minutes with no PRAM battery or cables to the 
> motherboard, press the CUDA again and reassemble.
> 
> I know this sounds kooky, like overkill, but I have a lot of experience with 
> Beige G3’s and I’ve had many with crazy boot issues that “made no sense” 
> which were all solved by disconnecting all the power from the motherboard and 
> reseting with the CUDA reset button.
> 
I can't quite remember, but didn't the cuda button have to be held down for 20 
or 30 seconds. I remember it was in an awkward place to hold down for a while 
with the power board removed. It has been a long time since repaired one, which 
reminds me to dig out my 7300 and get that running again.


Have Fun

Glen



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Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?

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Good suggestion: that occurred to me, but the screw is not damaged and a proper 
tool will remove it. And since I do not have a 10 inch or longer drill bit I 
would have to buy that tool which probably cost about same as the proper tool.
Anyway probably a mute point since the G5 PS located where the computer was 
dropped and most likely is damaged. Still a possible project if I get bored.
Meanwhile the Sawtooth is is just fine. I may replace it with a 2008 or 2009 
iMac which will run 10.5 or 10.6 if I need more speed and can find one locally 
for a good price. Thanks -- glen


  From: W.Adrian D'Alessio <fluxstrin...@gmail.com>
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 Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 11:21 AM
 Subject: Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?
   
Reach in with a long reach bit and drill the head off the screw.

Or use one of those screw extractor bits ( with the tiny grip teeth) on a long 
reach extension. Don't let one screw discourage you.


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On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 7:02 PM, 'Glen' via G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> 
wrote:

Follow up: I went with the external SATA/Firewire enclosure. Tested it today 
and it allows me to boot into the SATA drive and run all the  apps I used with 
the G5. Granted a lot slower but since the G4 has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade it is 
workable and just a little slower than the MDD I sold in July. I t allows me to 
access and edit my legacy files.

I decided against the PCI card since I read one review that said it worked 
great in 10.4.11 and another that said it did not work at all in 10.4.11? Then 
there is the concern will it boot and recognize more than the 127 GB of the 
SATA drive. For the same reason I decided against a good suggestion to buy an 
adapter -- did not think the Sawtooth would recognize the full capacity of the 
drive without the Firmware hack or 3rd party software.
I found cheap SATA/Firewire enclosures hard to find. The one purchased is an 
Iomega job lot surplus type for $35 shipped. It is new with all the screws and 
a bunch of stuff, some needed and some not. No instructions but easy to figure 
out. Really cheap construction, with self tapping screws that require a lot of 
patience and some improvised tools to get to work. But it does the job so I'm 
OK with it.
Fixing the G5:My second G5 that was severely damaged in shipping and whose PS 
may be a good replacement  had developed a LC leak with much corrosion, no 
surprise. Then I remembered that the PS in this damaged G5 displayed the same 
symptoms regarding the power supply that failed. I did start to to take it 
apart but without having a long reach t-10 wrench I improvised a tool and got 7 
of 8 hex screws out of the LCS unit but of course there is always one that 
won't loosen up. So unless I buy another tool I will not likely use again I am 
giving up on the G5 repair.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions -- glen


  From: 'glenstrek' via G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com>
 To: G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:18 PM
 Subject: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?
   
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124028

I'm thinking of using this SYBA SY-PCI140010 PCI card to add a SATA drive to my 
G4 Sawtooth. I have checked the SYBA site and it does have an OS X driver with 
a 2010 date. It does not say what version of OS X. Has anyone had any success 
or failure with this card? It has a SIL3124 Chipset. The hard drive is a 320 MB 
SATA II. The Sawtooth has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade processor with 2 GB RAM and 
running 10.4.11.
The Sawtooth recognizes the full 320 GB of the drive when attached via a USB 
2.0 card or the USB 1.1 native bus using a SATA-USB adapter. I would rather 
have the drive inside the computer and be able to boot the drive into 10.4.11. 
I can't do that when connected with USB on that old G4. My other option is a 
SATA/Firewire external enclosure which should be bootable and would cost about 
the same.

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Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?

['Glen' via G-Group]

Follow up: I went with the external SATA/Firewire enclosure. Tested it today 
and it allows me to boot into the SATA drive and run all the  apps I used with 
the G5. Granted a lot slower but since the G4 has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade it is 
workable and just a little slower than the MDD I sold in July. I t allows me to 
access and edit my legacy files.

I decided against the PCI card since I read one review that said it worked 
great in 10.4.11 and another that said it did not work at all in 10.4.11? Then 
there is the concern will it boot and recognize more than the 127 GB of the 
SATA drive. For the same reason I decided against a good suggestion to buy an 
adapter -- did not think the Sawtooth would recognize the full capacity of the 
drive without the Firmware hack or 3rd party software.
I found cheap SATA/Firewire enclosures hard to find. The one purchased is an 
Iomega job lot surplus type for $35 shipped. It is new with all the screws and 
a bunch of stuff, some needed and some not. No instructions but easy to figure 
out. Really cheap construction, with self tapping screws that require a lot of 
patience and some improvised tools to get to work. But it does the job so I'm 
OK with it.
Fixing the G5:My second G5 that was severely damaged in shipping and whose PS 
may be a good replacement  had developed a LC leak with much corrosion, no 
surprise. Then I remembered that the PS in this damaged G5 displayed the same 
symptoms regarding the power supply that failed. I did start to to take it 
apart but without having a long reach t-10 wrench I improvised a tool and got 7 
of 8 hex screws out of the LCS unit but of course there is always one that 
won't loosen up. So unless I buy another tool I will not likely use again I am 
giving up on the G5 repair.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions -- glen


  From: 'glenstrek' via G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com>
 To: G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> 
 Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:18 PM
 Subject: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?
   
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124028

I'm thinking of using this SYBA SY-PCI140010 PCI card to add a SATA drive to my 
G4 Sawtooth. I have checked the SYBA site and it does have an OS X driver with 
a 2010 date. It does not say what version of OS X. Has anyone had any success 
or failure with this card? It has a SIL3124 Chipset. The hard drive is a 320 MB 
SATA II. The Sawtooth has a dual 1.25 GHz upgrade processor with 2 GB RAM and 
running 10.4.11.
The Sawtooth recognizes the full 320 GB of the drive when attached via a USB 
2.0 card or the USB 1.1 native bus using a SATA-USB adapter. I would rather 
have the drive inside the computer and be able to boot the drive into 10.4.11. 
I can't do that when connected with USB on that old G4. My other option is a 
SATA/Firewire external enclosure which should be bootable and would cost about 
the same.

  

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Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?

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Do you mean something like 
this?http://www.amazon.com/HDE-SATA-Drive-Interface-Adapter/dp/B002Y2NI4M/ref=pd_sim_147_3?ie=UTF8=199TBF0PPZSAHR4XHNZW=41y1NmgtUFL=sims=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_

I did not think of going in that direction -- that could work! Then I could put 
the two ATA/IDE drives now in the Sawtooth into my external Firewire enclosures 
and have both bootable computers in one G4 until I repair or more likely 
replace the G5.
Thanks, glen

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 Subject: Re: SATA PCI Card for G4 Sawtooth?
   
Hi Glen,

There are cheap adaptors available which fit between the ATA-cable and the 
SATA-connector on the drive. I have two big and fast SATA drives in my MDD 
using those adaptors (price was 8 € on the net), the speed is awesome compared 
to my other internal two ATA-drives. Plus I have all my PCI-slots available for 
other cards.

Good luck, Jörg.


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Re: G5 Tower Won't Start

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  From: Bruce Johnson <john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 6:19 PM
 Subject: Re: G5 Tower Won't Start
   

> On Sep 16, 2015, at 2:53 PM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
> 
> My only guess is power supply failure. It there anything else to try. Right 
> now it sits unplugged with PRAM battery removed. I will try again Thursday 
> morning.

Does your G5 have an Apple Cinema Display attached? try disconnecting it and 
plugging in a regular VGA monitor.

This happened to a prof here when the power supply for his 24” Cinema Display 
died. Really weird.

(He ended up going through 2 of the power supplies before he made Apple give 
him one from a 30”..no more dead power supplies after that. The 30” ps is 
noticeably beefier than the 24”)

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The monitor is a Hannspree and is connected to the G5's DVI video port. Tried 
disconnecting everything expect the power cord; it just clicks on then off. 
Looks likes the power supply needs to be replaced. --glen  

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Re: G5 Tower Won't Start

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Thanks, lot of good info, particularly the pinout diagram.
I do have a "spare" PS from another G5 2.5 MHz LCS that was severely damage in 
shipping. Don't know if the damage included that PS. I found a couple of 
YouTube videos on replacing and taking apart the G5. Looks a little daunting 
but at least a have another dead G5 to practice on.
Recently sold off all my old Mac's except for one G4. Transferred the critical 
G5 files to that G4 so I'm back in business. And I finally got to use that USB 
2.0 to SATA/IDE adapter I bought an couple of years ago!
Just when I thought I was done tinkering with Mac's now I have another project. 
--glen

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 Subject: Re: G5 Tower Won't Start
   

> On Sep 17, 2015, at 11:47 AM, 'Glen' via G-Group <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Looks likes the power supply needs to be replaced.

You can find the G5 power supply pinout diagrams on this site that shows how to 
rebuild the power supply.

<http://www.item-innovacion.es/en/PowerMac_G5_PSU_Repair.html>

The G5 power supplies can be expensive, or hard to find, so in addition to DIY 
repair, there’s other sites that show how to convert a standard ATX power 
supply to work in the G5 as a lower cost, more readily available kludge 
solution.

<http://damntechnology.blogspot.com/2009/02/rebuilding-powermac-g5-power-supply.html>

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Re: google spam

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A couple of year ago I received  call from a guy "from Google" who wanted to 
update my business site (now retired) . He had a good presentation and I let 
him run is pitch. He even used FLASH to to take control of my browser showing 
me how he could improve the site. When I said I was not interested he got 
agressive an ended up saying Google would take down my site if I did not agree 
to his proposition.
I told "OK take it down" and hung it. --glen
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Has anyone received phone calls from google wanting to set up a business 
account/web site?

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Re: Best browser Power Mac G-4 OS 10.5.8?

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From: peterh...@cruzio.com peterh...@cruzio.com
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Subject: Re: Best browser Power Mac G-4 OS 10.5.8?



 I heard that TenFourFox doesn't come with flash player though.  Maybe that
 is the case?  I would be curious to see speed comparisons with TenFourFox
 and a few other browsers still supported on 10.5.8.  Do any of these
 support HTML I wonder?

TenFourFox comes in at least two versions, one of which is for 7400
processors, and another which are for the later 7450 processors.

Based upon recommendations of security folks, I have removed Flash from my
machines.



My reply:

There is at least one other version of TenFourFox for G5 processors. When I 
switched from a G4 to a G5 the 7450 version was installed on the cloned HDD and 
it worked just fine. Later I upgraded to the G5 version. And I do not miss 
FLASH. --glen


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Re: PowerMac G5 sleep issue

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- Original Message -
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Subject: PowerMac G5 sleep issue

My G5 PowerMac (latest generation) would not auto deep-sleep (worked fine when 
done by hand) and that can cost a good chunk of money in electricity (~$100 a 
year as it idles around 130W, deep-sleeps at about 1/7th of this); turns out 
that the problem was introduced in 10.5.7 and not fixed in 10.5.8. It is 
probably a coincidence that the Energy Saver icon was an Edison bulb in 10.5.6, 
but moved to a CFL in 10.5.7. Earlier G5 PowerMac generations don't seem to 
suffer this fate, so this may not be of concern to Cube users.

[snip]

* Using another model DVD drive (Apple System Profiler lists the problem drive 
as: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4165B)

is all it took to resolve this issue. I tried an NEC 2100AD from another 
machine I had, and read that an LG GH22NP20 also solves the problem, and hope 
to try the Apple branded SONY DW-Q28A soon.


Makes one wonder about the wisdom of keeping old equipment running; $100 a year 
in electricity can soon add up to a new machine. Can't complain that life is 
not keeping me occupied.


Maybe we could start a list of Good and Bad drives with respect to this issue.
-

My Reply:

Not sure when the latest generation of G5's begins but I have a dual 2.5 Ghz 
PowerMac G5 (June 2004), Machine Model PowerMac7,3.

It has a Pioneer DVR-117D rev B705 and does not have the sleep problems you 
describe. --glen









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Re: Invalid Sibling Link?

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 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu

 
On Dec 13, 2013, at 6:25 AM, W.Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote:

 But whatever you do get a new drive for the machine. One that old is likely 
 on it's way to the trash bin.

Likely, although volume errors like this can also be soft errors on a good HDD 
where the volume got messed up by something else. Check the SMART status, and 
make sure you have good backups, but this isn’t a definitive signal the drive 
is failing. Two such errors in a short time is, though.

 
 Although on youtube I see the magnets can be fun to play with.

Much fun indeed. The best come from old server-grade SCSI drives, they’re 
enormously strong. Our household ‘cookbook’ is about a 30-page stack of recipe 
printouts on letter sized paper stuck to the side of the fridge with one. You 
do NOT want to get it stuck on the fridge by itself, there’s no way to get it 
off except by sliding it to an edge. 

Once I accidentally let two of them come together from too far away, they 
shattered when they hit each other. Very sharp, glasslike shards of magnet.


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My Reply @ W.Adrian:

Good advice!

The wayward drive is not the original Sawtooth drive but is at least five years 
old. I plan to replace the Sawtooth with a dual 1.25 MHz MDD which is being 
replaced with a dual 2.5 GHz G5 in the next week or two. The MDD has drives 2-3 
years old. I tend to follow the Mac hand-me-down procedure   --  lot'sa good 
old Mac's out there.

I found an article on Mac OS X hints
http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20070204093925888
that said I could repair the problem by going into Terminal. No go, but is was 
fun getting Terminal commands again. A simple erase and restore solved problem 
with no data loss. KEEP CURRENT BACKUPS!!!

Reply @ Bruce

I will run SMART. The other two volumes seem OK but who knows? At least all had 
a redundant back up today.

Magnets -- always wanted to try that. Thanks all --glen

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Invalid Sibling Link?

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Spec's: G4 Sawtooth upgraded with a dual 1.25 GHz processor, 2 GB RAM, 2-100 GB 
HDD's, OS 10.4.11.

This G4 has been rock solid for a number of years following all upgrades. Today 
I found a frozen screen saver and no response to keyboard and mouse commands. 
No hardware or software changes have been made for weeks or months.

Restarted to the usual grey Apple startup screen with the rolling spoke/grear 
wheel and after two minutes the computer turned itself off. Thinking a hard 
drive failure I rebooted to a back-up eternal drive with success. The normal 
boot drive was not mounted and would not mount with Disk Utility.  I ran Disk 
First Aid on the damaged volume and received the message:

Invalid Sibling Link
Volume Check Failed

What does that mean? Is there any way to repair this?

I do have have recent backup so I could erase the wayward volume and restore 
the data. Any ideas to get this guy up and running? Thanks --glen

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Re: Invalid Sibling Link?

[Glen]

 From: Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com



If you need to get up and running right away, then I'd do that. Otherwise,
pick up a copy of DiskWarrior; Alsoft still sells PowerPC compatible versions
all the way back to OS 9.

Thanks for the quick response. I was thinking of DiskWarrior. Since I still 
have a number of PowerPC's it may be a good investment. --glen

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Re: iBook G4 worth buying?

[glen]

On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:49 PM, mkehoe wrote:

 A local Goodwill has a used iBook G4 (no ac power cord/charger) for $40.00.  
 I can power it up with my power cord, but don't know how to get past the 
 older user's  password page to see what operating system and software are on 
 it.  I can't tell which model it is from looking at the case.  
 


If you can find the serial number you can check out the original spec's at:
http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html


Local pickup saves shipping. I got a 1.42 GHZ from the swap list a while back 
for $60 shipped. It does not hold a charge but makes for a great iTunes server 
for my living room stereo when plugged in. -- glen

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Re: iBook G4 worth buying?

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- Original Message -
From: Fabian Fang f...@mac.com

On Oct 10, 2013, at 3:39 PM, glen wrote:

 On Oct 9, 2013, at 3:49 PM, mkehoe wrote:
 
  A local Goodwill has a used iBook G4 (no ac power cord/charger) for $40.00. 
   I can power it up with my power cord, but don't know how to get past the 
  older user's  password page to see what operating system and software are 
  on it.  I can't tell which model it is from looking at the case.  
  
 
 If you can find the serial number you can check out the original spec's at:
 http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html
Finding the serial number of some iBook G4 models is more easily said than done:
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA27282

The OP may not be allowed to open up that unit before purchase.
--

Granted, but if the serial number is in the battery panel bay (as was mine) the 
OP only needs a coin to open the latch on the battery panel, remove the battery 
and note the number. It only takes about 30 seconds. The permission of the 
seller would be needed. --glen

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Re: G5 thinks there are still two monitors attached, after removing one.

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On 22 Jun 2013, at 14:17, Valter Prahlad wrote:

 Il giorno 22/06/13 10.35, Tom ha scritto:
 
 Yesterday one of the two displays just suddenly went dark, like blowing out
 a candle. 
 LCD monitors (and many electronics devices built around 2003-2005) suffer
 from the bad capacitors plague:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague
 
 You can google 23 cinema display capacitors and see if some page helps you
 troubleshooting your problem.
 
 I disconnected the dead monitor and all its cables from the Mac.
 Are you sure there's no adapter still connected to the video card?
 It may trick the card into thinking a monitor is still there.
 
 When I open some windows, they go off the visible screen and open
 somewhere on the invisible one, on the non-existent monitor, and I can't
 get at them.
 Using the display menulet (the icon on the top menu bar), can you change the
 resolution of the ghost monitor, to a smaller one?
 This way, windows opening there might be still visible on the main monitor
 and movable.
 
 That's the best that I can think of right now. :-)
 


Hi

Have you tried resetting the pram, if this doesn't work try mirroring you will 
at least be able to see your missing windows.

Have Fun

Glen

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Re: DT Beige G3 to Sonnet G4 upgrade

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On 27 Mar 2013, at 17:47, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote:

 This strangeness was first discovered when attempting to install an
 official pre-release of OS X on my 300 MHz Beige G3 (machine revision 3C
 ... logic board revision 3; ROM revision C).
 
 The machine was so screwed-up by the (failed) OS X installation that it
 could not see any IDE drives.
 



There was also another board reset (only Beige G3s) involving taking out the 
small power board and holding the cuda (there was a time on it maybe 20 or 30 
seconds), I can't remember if removing the battery was involved or not it has 
been a very long time since I played around with one of these.

Have Fun

Glen



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Re: teach yourself illustrator CS3

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___

 From: Fabian Fang f...@mac.com

 
 So can anyone recommend a good guide/teach yourself Illustrator book? I 
 don't think it will matter if it's from as far back as V5 (I recall the 
 manual for V5 having a good teaching session, and I don't see that any of 
 the fundamental functions have changed since then.)


http://www.amazon.com/Illustrator-Windows-Macintosh-Elaine-Weinmann/dp/0321510453/ref=sr_1_2?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1364233558sr=1-2keywords=illustrator+cs3+books

It is a good book.  You can still buy a brand new copy for as little as $3.37 
(plus shipping) from an Amazon Marketplace.


I'll second that suggestion. During the past few years I have purchased half 
dozen or more Peachpit Press Adobe CS instruction books from Amazon for a dime 
on the dollar. Clear and easy to read and shipping is only $4 IIRC. Even a used 
book purchased  for  $0.01 was in good shape. --glen

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Re: G5 Power Mac Failure: Replacement SATA OSX

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My G5 appears to have experienced an HDD failure and now hangs at boot on the 
logo screen. I bought it with Leopard pre-installed so I'm now in need of a 
replacement SATA drive and a copy of OSX. Money is tight so cheapest possible 
options. I only want to use it for Final Cut Express 4 and Adobe Creative 
Suite CS3.


SATA HDD
I was thinking something less than 100GB just for the OS. What are the 
implications of type or speed of SATA drive? I'm only aware that 7200rpm is 
best for video scratch disks but what about OS? I have a 320GB in there for 
video scratch purposes.

OSX
I think I can get by with Tiger? Certainly true for FCE 4. Is Snow Leopard a 
stand-alone OS? Can't seem to find any G5 original installation disks for 
sale. Now cruising eBay.

G5 / 2.0 / DP / 512MB

The LEM Swap list may be better than cruising eBay. SATA drives the size you 
need are not terribly expensive and appear frequently; or just post a WTB. Even 
new or refurb drives from retail sellers like geeks.com or newegg.com are 
reasonably priced.


CS3 only requires OS 10.4.8 and I your G5 will boot from any retail version of 
OS 10.4 (black label) unless it is a late 2005 model and then you will need 
10.4.4 --according to Mactracker. If  you don't need 10.5 for any other 
software or its features the retail (black label) versions of 10.4.x will do. A 
free upgrade to 10.4.11 is available from the Apple support site.


Oh, and you may want to upgrade the RAM, 512 MB is very light for any version 
of OS 10 not to mention FCE and CS. --glen

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Re: G5 Damaged in Shipping

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G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. 
M9457LL/A, liquid cooling.


Photo's 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/sets/72157632624630081/


Thanks for the replies, my response will follow but first the latest.

Monday: the damaged G5 ran for 3-4 hours with no apparent problems  BUT when 
booting I would hear the fans start to rev up and a short pause rev down ( 1 
sec) the a continued rev up and a successful boot.

Left it sit overnight without power and the side cover off, exposed side down 
on workbench with tissue paper under the LCS to check for leaks. No drips or 
wet areas on tissue paper the next morning. Rebooted and checked back in an 
hour or so to find a panic screen. Now it no longer boots. No start up chime, 
the fans start to rev and then rev down ( 1 sec) and stay down, blank screen.

Not good! power supply issue? Damaged CPU's? Any thoughts?

I'll try to summarize my reply's to posts I can remember, both on and off list.


First, I still can't remove the LCS cover as suggested. There was a plastic 
stud or rivet holding the cover in place. I shaved the top off with a knife but 
still I could not remove the cover.

As far the damage as a result of shipping I tend to agree it may not be the 
source. There is little damage to the shipping box. A slight crush on one 
corner and a small cut on one side that did not penetrate to the inside. OTOH, 
the G5 was not double boxed and some random pieces of styrofoam used to to keep 
the 44 lb contents in place were broken.


Regarding the idea of transporting the internals to another case, I agree that 
I will not trust the seller to ship the proper G5 case for this model in good 
condition. And as I suspected from two posters the process could be long and 
tedious. Perhaps a great retirement project but I still have at least a year to 
go and need the G5 now as I enter a greatly needed busy day job schedule.

Probably won't get much trouble shooting time until weekend --looks like junk, 
thanks  everyone --glen

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G5 Damaged in Shipping

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G5 dual 2.5Mhz, June 2004, Radeon 9800 XT video. Model #A1047 EMC# 1969. 
M9457LL/A, liquid cooling.


Photo's 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/sets/72157632624630081/

The case got bent, the hard drive and video card were dislarged on arrival. 
When received there was no anchor screw in the video card slot and no sled for 
the HD. The video card was reseated and appears OK, the hard drive is toast.

The G5 will boot from a retail OS 10.4 install DVD. It will also boot from a 
external FireWire 10.4.11 drive. All appears OK for the short time I had it 
running.

Conerns;
1. Damaged/Leaking LCS -- how to inspect it.
2. Hard drive cables and connectors -- no  SATA drive at hand to test (one 
cable was found disconnected from the motherboard.

The seller has offered to:
1) send a new case
2) OR offer some $$ compensation

Questions:
1) Would anyone want to use this as production computer? All my production 
software is Mac PCI based.

2) How hard is it to take all guts out of this G5 and reassemble in a new case? 
Any propriety tools needed? And how to find  take a part instructions? I'm up 
for a challenge --but is it worth it ???

3) Just live with the bend up case and get a few dollars off purchase price 
after all the Mac is 9 years old.

Somewhat disappointing to finally get G5 and receive it in a damaged condition. 
Sort'a like buying a classic Corvette and getting slammed by a distracted 
driver while stopped at a traffic light on its first drive. OTOH it is a 
challenge to restore what is left to restore.

All responses welcomed, thanks --glen

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Re: SCSI issue has arisen

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On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Bill Connelly wrote:

RE:  ATTO Configuration Tool:    I was trying to remember something about the 
flashing of an older ATTO SCSI PCI  card ... I believe if it is flashed for 
Tiger, you lose the OS 9 capability.



It likely depends on the ATTO card you have. I have a UL2D  updated to the 
latest firmware I could find with two LVD SCSI drives attached in a G4 DA that 
works great in OS 9 and 10.3.9. However, it does have some problems with 
10.4.11. The only firmware upgrades I could find for 10.4.11 were for the UL3D 
and did not flash to the UL2D.


No real problem for me since I use the DA as an OS 9 legacy machine; mainly for 
old PageMaker files and other outdated software. Generally I think ATTO cards 
and support -- at least in the old days of SCSI was terrific. -- glen

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Re: Shhh!! CS 2

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 From: Jane, (Portland, OR) janespra...@comcast.net

On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:45:01 AM UTC-8, Len Gerstel wrote:
Genuine NON Hacked Adobe site!! 

Mac OS X v.10.2.8–v.10.3.8. PowerPC® G4 or G5 processor. Should work   
under 10.4 also, let me know if I am wrong. 

http://www.adobe.com/ downloads/cs2_downloads/index. html 

Len 

Thanks for sharing this site. I own Elements 2.0 and it is so outdated! So 
Elements 4.0/5.0 is welcome! I have a G4 Powerbook 10.4), MacBook Pro (10.5) 
and a year old iMac (10.6). I doubt if any of the listed Apps will run on the 
iMac, but would they run on the MBP with 10.5? Also, for Creative Suite 2, do 
you download all 6 items listed? 

What other of these Apps would be good to download? What is Acrobat Pro 8?



I would download just what you need, for your business or personal use. CS2 
will only run on G4 and G5's not sure of the upper limit of the Mac OS.


In my case, as a retro printing and graphics arts business, the choices were 
easy. Upgrade from InDesing CS, Photoshop 9, Illustrator 10 and Acrobat 7 Pro. 
I'm still using  G4's and OS 10.4.11. And thought I'd try GoLive CS2 since I 
haven't done any web coding in many years so that one was just to learn 
something new.

As in most Adobe CS2 pieces the the learning curve is steep. Fortunately you 
can find many helpful CS2 books at Amazon for a few dollars new books and a 
few cents for used plus a $4 shipping for each one. I ordered four books 
published by Peacepit Press for my new upgrades for about $30 including 
shipping. Official Abode training books are also available for about the same 
price.

Acorbat 8, as stated earlier, allows you to do some limited editing of PDF 
files if you have the same fonts in your system. It will also allow you export 
a PDF to other formats --like Word, which may be easier to edit. It also allows 
you to create PDF forms with writable fields and PDF files from other program. 
Of course OS X also can save a file to PDF. Acrobat 8 is a big deal for me 
since I get so many PDF's from customers that need a lot of help to get printed 
properly.

The Adobe downloads are not a big deal for most folks but they are a very good 
deal  for me after spending many hundred's (1,000's?) of dollars for Adobe 
software during the last 25 years or so. --glen

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Re: Shhh!! CS 2

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Genuine NON Hacked Adobe site!!
 
 Mac OS X v.10.2.8–v.10.3.8. PowerPC® G4 or G5 processor. Should work under 
 10.4 
 also, let me know if I am wrong.
 
 http://www.adobe.com/downloads/cs2_downloads/index.html
 
 Len
 

GREAT, heads up! Yo' da'man!

Planned to search ebay for Acrobat 8 and  CS2 or CS3 upgrades. Hard to believe 
Adobe did this.
Thank you, --glenstrek

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Re: Shhh!! CS 2

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 Adobe has shut down the activation servers, but they're NOT giving anything 

 away for free.  The packages provided for download now require a registration 
 key, instead of reaching for the server.  Said key is ONLY available to 
 *existing* CS2 customers.
 
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/adriankingsleyhughes/2013/01/07/download-adobe-cs2-applications-for-free/
 
 - Dan.
 -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

Ahhh, if it is too good to be true. . . That's more like Adobe.

I will try to install CS2 and report back. I do have a legal CS [1]. --glen

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Re: Shhh!! CS 2

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  Adobe has shut down the activation servers, but they're NOT giving 
 anything 
 
  away for free.  The packages provided for download now require a 
 registration 
  key, instead of reaching for the server.  Said key is ONLY available to 
  *existing* CS2 customers.
 
 
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/adriankingsleyhughes/2013/01/07/download-adobe-cs2-applications-for-free/
 
  - Dan.
  -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.
 
 Ahhh, if it is too good to be true. . . That's more like Adobe.
 
 I will try to install CS2 and report back. I do have a legal CS [1]. --glen
 

Just installed Illy CS2 on a this computer which is not my work computer with 
CS installed.  No CS on this Mac and no problems.

No Key requested, just the serial number from the Adobe web site.---glen

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Re: HP 5100 Laserjet driver for G4 needed

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- Original Message -
 From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net
 Subject: Re: HP 5100 Laserjet driver for G4 needed
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:12 PM, glen wrote:
 
  I have searched Google and no joy. I can print from 10.4.11 on another 
 networked G4 but need to print from legacy OS9 files on the DA that do not 
 play 
 well with OS 10.4.11 or Classic. Perhaps someone has the driver stashed away 
 and 
 could sent it --  or has a download link. Any suggestions?
 
 Are you certain there were MacOS drivers? MacOS 9.2.2 was released in 2001, 
 and 
 this LaserJet 5100 was released in June 2002 when OS X 10.1.5 was the current 
 release software for Macs.
 
 The HP article titled HP LaserJet 5100 Family Printers - Upgrading the 
 Firmware says there is a MacOS firmware update tool that only works in OS 
 9, which implies there were OS 9 drivers. You should check the firmware 
 version 
 of your LaserJet because this could be the problem why your printer isn't 
 printing your files correctly in OS X or Classic:
 
 http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=encc=usobjectID=bpl11999jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN
 
 It says the current firmware for LJ5100 is version MB8.23 :
 
 http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=encc=usprodTypeId=18972prodSeriesId=74341prodNameId=74343swEnvOID=54swLang=8mode=2taskId=135swItem=lj-5634-5
 
 The drivers here might work after making sure the firmware is latest:
 
 ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/printers/software/jlegacyen.hqx
 
 You should be able to view all these drivers in OS X by FinderGoConnect 
 to Server then add ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/.


I have not checked the firmware but suspect since it was recent refurb it 
should be current. I will check however.

Your ftp link did not work. No problem however, read on.

Upon reading the manual the printer uses LaserWriter 8 for a driver in OS 8.6 
and OS 9. The problem is the PPD which would have been supplied on the install 
CD is missing.

I did not get anything useful from Google searching HP 5100 driver. Then I 
tried searching HP Laserjet OS 9 PPD and got a hit for a HP 5000, the 
predecessor to the 5100. The link led to helpdriver.com. Navigating thru 
printersHPLaserjet 5000, provided a free download which I believe is the same 
file provided by your ftp link (jlegacyen.hqx)

The installation installed many LaserJet PPD's including the LaserJet 5100. So 
I'm good.

On a side note I tried tried another PPD from a GCC XL/1200 1200 dpi printer. 
The HP 5100 replaced an aging GCC XL/1200 another monochrome printer. The GCC 
PDD  gave me the necessary features as well. I assume both PPD's were written 
in the same language. I think it is Adobe Postscript 4 (point something)

Interesting exercise with a good result. Of course I could have saved the 
legacy files as a PDF and print from another networked G4 with OS X -- na'h too 
much work. --glen

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Re: HP 5100 Laserjet driver for G4 needed

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- Original Message -
 From: Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it
 Il giorno 04/12/12 01:12, glen ha scritto:
 
  Looking for OS 9 drivers for Digital Audio G4. Apparently HP no longer has
  them on their support site.This is not a 5100 Deskjet or 5100 Officejet 
 just a
  new refurbished black  white 1200 dpi 5100 Laserjet 
 printer.
 
 Only info I found about this printer and old MacOS is here:
 http://en.allexperts.com/q/Macintosh-OS-1063/2008/10/OS-8-6-printing.htm
 

I think that that is a DesignJet large format printer not a LaserJet.  HP seems 
to have many 5100's.
Thanks for the reply --glen

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HP 5100 Laserjet driver for G4 needed

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Looking for OS 9 drivers for Digital Audio G4. Apparently HP no longer has them 
on their support site.This is not a 5100 Deskjet or 5100 Officejet just a new 
refurbished black  white 1200 dpi 5100 Laserjet printer. Don't know why HP 
uses 5100 for so many different printers.


I have searched Google and no joy. I can print from 10.4.11 on another 
networked G4 but need to print from legacy OS9 files on the DA that do not play 
well with OS 10.4.11 or Classic. Perhaps someone has the driver stashed away 
and could sent it --  or has a download link. Any suggestions? Thanks ---glen

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Re: UhOh ... Flash 11.5 Only

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  Try this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2016390/FPforFBPPC.zip
 
  It's a hacked Flashplayer plugin pretending to be a newer version.
  It worked on my G5 iMac, G4 Powerbook and many others. It doesn't  
  work with every site that requires a newer version of Flash but it  
  does with most.
 
 What is the source (site) for this? I believe I have seen it before ...

It's been around. It's a Flash 10.1 with a hacked version number, which
does seem sufficient for many sites, but it still suffers from the bugs and
security issues of that version.

Flash needs to die.


Agreed,

Missing iTunes radio on 10.4.11 and PCI Macs when Apple dropped support, I 
tried Pandora as a substitute. No go because of the unsupported Flash version 
in 10.4.11 --until today-- with the above hack and Safari 4.1.3.Pandora works.


It does not work with Ten for Fox but that is not a problem. I like some 
background music when working so I just crank up Safari and Pandora for music 
and use Ten for Fox for the important stuff. --glen

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Re: Classic Environment

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 From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net


I'm no Photoshop expert, but I thought that Photoshop 7.0 and the update 7.01 
were carbon apps that ran in both Mac OS and also OS X natively. I don't 
think you need the Classic environment to run Photoshop 7.01 in OS X, is 
should launch within OS X natively I think?

Also, there's a special plugin for the G5 that allows the G5 to fully use it's 
power with Photoshop 7.01:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2132

I had a friend using Photoshop under OS X 10.5.8 on a 1.67GHz G4 AluBook, and 
he downgraded to 10.4.11 to get better response and speed out of Photoshop, it 
was a significant speed-up, perhaps 30% using 10.4.11 instead of 10.5.8, so 
that's one reason you might still consider downgrading, but I'm pretty certain 
Photoshop 7.01 should run without MacOS or Classic needed.


Photoshop 7.0 runs great under OS X 4.11 without Classic. I've run it in a 
number of G4's from a Sawtooth to an MDD and it is still in use in two G4 
towers. Never even tried to run it in Classic. No experience with 10.5 but 
suspect it should work. Did not know about the 7.01 update but will check it 
out, thanks Kris --glen

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Re: upgrading PPC G4

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 From: Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it

Il giorno 13-09-2012 17:45, spilrules ha scritto:

 I am currently living outside of the US and had set up my Father with a G4
 Tower 500mhz dual processor

 I also found a 1.25ghz Dual Processor G4 MDD machine for a bit more money
 and was thinking that this would be a much faster machine for him.

It would be way faster, but very likely it will be louder as well (MDDs are
known for being the loudest PowerMacs, I think) - unless the original fans
have been upgraded.

The fans will ramp up if the CPU is hot. My 1.25 Ghz Dual Processor MDD is as 
quiet any other Mac I have used as I write this post. The room temperature is 
82 F (28 C). When the room temp is much higher you will hear the fans.I believe 
the fans in my MDD are stock.

It is important to blow or vacuum out any dust bunnies as they will retard the 
cooling. When I received my used MDD a dust clomp the size of a mouse (the 
rodent) was lodged under the Darth Vader grill at the bottom of the case. 


There is definitely a fan noise on a boot or restart when the CPU is working 
hard. Unless you dad is doing intensive CPU chores the fan noise should not be 
a problem. --glen

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Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?

[glen]

- Original Message -
 From: Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 5:43 PM
 Subject: Re: G3 iMac to Quadra 650 Ethernet?
 
  I have a G3 iMac 600 OS 9.2.2 and I need to connect it to a Quadra 650 OS
  7.5.5 via Ethernet. I only need to transfer text files to and from the desk
  tops of the two machines, no internet or program sharing, only file 
 sharing.
 
 Just turn on file sharing from the control panel on the G3 and then use the
 Q650 as a client (you could do it in the reverse direction but that will
 probably be slower). You could do this with Tiger on the G3, but you'd need
 AFP-over-TCP enabled on the Q650, so OS 9 I agree would be easier because
 it still speaks AFP over traditional EtherTalk Phase 2.
 

In addition, if you only have the two machines connected be sure you use the 
proper Ethernet cable. Many older Mac's require a crossover cable. See 
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2274
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Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns

[glen]

- Original Message -

 From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com

 At 4:02 PM -0700 6/22/2012, glen wrote:
  My concern is security. If some spammer has access to my address book and 
 can send spam spoofed from friends and associates' email address what else 
 do they know; SS numbers, CC numbers, bank accounts, passwords???
 
 Well, that depends on where the breach occurred, of course.  If the spammer 
 harvested an address book (or just grabbed From addresses) from the Yahoo 
 server, then that's all they have.  But if they had full access to your 
 computer (as a Mac, not likely) ... or if they had full access to your 
 friend's computer (as a PC, quite quite likely) then all bets are off...  
 Once you have access, it's trivial to grab up turbotax files, cookie 
 databases, etc.
 
- Original Message -
 From: t...@nehaia.dk t...@nehaia.dk

 please do remember to tell your clients to change their passwords too
 
 on the mail servers I'm working with, the most frequent reason for out
 going spam is caused by peoples accounts have been taken over by spammer
 due to weak passwords
 

 Follow up: -- Just  received a second spoofed spam from a business client sent 
to my business address. My business email account is web based Yahoo Mail and I 
could not find a way to check the all the headers. However I could check who 
else it was sent to.

This client is in the entertainment business and many of the 24 other addresses 
the spam was sent to have local entertainment venue domain names which I have 
never emailed. So it looks like it was my client's email Yahoo account that was 
compromised and the spam was sent to local addresses on his computer.

Switching gears, reviewing my friend's spam send to my personal 
glenst...@yahoo.com address I found the six other addresses the spam was sent 
to match addresses of family members and other friends of the friend. And once 
again no one I ever sent an email to. So I looks like the friends Yahoo account 
was also compromised.

Very disturbing when spammers are accessing your friends and business 
associates email addresses. Thanks once again to all. And as Tina suggests use 
strong passwords on all your accounts. --glen

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Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns

[glen]

- Original Message -
 From: Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:59 AM
 Subject: Re: Questions About New Spam Concerns
 
 At 00:26 -0400 6/22/12, Dan wrote:

 
 Which spam folder - the one in your local mail client or the one on 
 Yahoo's service?
 
 If the former then your Yahoo service isn't doing its job.


MY REPLY: It is the one on Yahoo service.

 
 OTGH, it's possible your conclusions as to the origins of the emails are 
 incorrect.  Them spammers is getting awfully good at forging things these 
 days.  
 Can't tell without seeing 'em tho, including complete headers.


 Dan's comment on needing full headers is important.  You can look at the 
 headers yourself. Email clients regularly suppress headers that they think 
 are 
 not important but, though the button may be hidden pretty well, they can all 
 be 
 asked to show you the whole thing.

MY REPLY: I will check the complete headers.
 
 My email host adds headers that are derived from SpamAssassin, software used 
 by 
 them on all mail, which can often have something to say about irregularities 
 in 
 the message.
 
 But headers can also be faked.  The ones fully trustworthy are added last 
 while 
 the message is enroute. The last Received: header is most likely correct. The 
 From: header is generated entirely by the sender and can easily be a lie.
 
 It is also possible that your friends' machines have been infected with 
 malware that turns them into a robot which regularly calls a bad machine on 
 the 
 net and receives messages that it will copy out to perhaps hundreds of 
 recipients. That is best fixed by removing the bad stuff from your friend's 
 machine which, as Dan says, is unlikely to be a Mac or other UNIX-based 
 machine.
 
 Try looking at the full headers in suspected messages. They're pretty much 
 readable text.  You might even discover something in common that you can use 
 as 
 a filter.
 
 But then you might discover that Yahoo itself deliberately makes that 
 difficult. 
 They do have some strange ideas that have bothered me. Reading mail over an 
 HTTP 
 link with a browser does limit your options.

This could the problem or at least part of it.

I forgot to mention that there are two Yahoo email addresses involved,  the 
glenstrek address I use on list and info@[my business name].com which is a low 
end commercial domain name also hosted hosted by Yahoo.

One strange thing is the 2 or 3 spams to the business email addresses are 
clients I have done no business with recently and have done little business 
with over the years. These are good folks, repeat customers that just do not 
need my services that often. In addition one these spams was found in the Yahoo 
spam folder.

Next time this happens I will definitely check the full headers and report back 
if necessary.

My concern is security. If some spammer has access to my address book and can 
send spam spoofed from friends and associates' email address what else do they 
know; SS numbers, CC numbers, bank accounts, passwords???

Dan and Doug, thanks for you help and  I will definitely change many passwords. 
--glen

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Questions About New Spam Concerns

[glen]

 I get my share of spam -- most of it goes into the spam folder where it 
belongs.

During the past months I found a few spams disguised with the name and email 
address of former business clients and today the name and email address of a 
close friend in my inbox.

The business clients I have known for a number of years and are not spammers. 
Furthermore, I have not done any recent business with them. I don't know if 
they are Mac or Window users so I suspected perhaps some windows malware 
snatched my email from them and sent the spam masked with their name and 
address.

Today, I  received a lose weight spam from a good friend who is a Mac user. 
Since I am the desired weight for my height I know this is not a hint to lose 
weight.  This friend also uses a smart phone (Blackberry) to exchange emails.

So here's are the questions, are any of my Mac's responsible for this? Or, are 
spammers hacking into my friend and clients email devices to cause this 
disturbing disruption? Or what else could be causing this? Is it something I 
should be concerned with? 

This raises a lot of red security flags. Thanks for any answers --glen

PS all emails were sent from a either a BW G3 (now retired), G4 Sawtooth, DA, 
or MDD, OS 10.4.11.

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Re: MDD, Gray Screen, Access Optical Drive?

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 From: t...@prismnet.com t...@prismnet.com
To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:43 PM
Subject: MDD, Gray Screen, Access Optical Drive?
 
This 1.25GHz single processor MDD has been having problems for a few
weeks.  I've backed up everything on the hard drives, so that's good,
but haven't had time to replace the drives, reinstall the OS's, move
the files, etc.

The short question is, how do I get the optical drive to open so that
I can insert OS install media, given that I can't boot the machine
from any of the hard drives, and there's no media currently in the
optical drives?  The open tray button doesn't seem to work from the
gray screen the machine gets stuck at.  I flipped down the mirror
door, but didn't see an obvious hole for the paperclip trick.  Should
I look again?


Yes,
The hole is hidden behind the gasket looking foam at the bottom of the drive. 
It is just right of center.  Insert a paper clip and tray will open a bit, then 
you can use you finger to pull it all the way out. Insert DVD or CD and push 
back in.

My MDD is a dual 1.2 GHz with only one optical drive in the upper bay. Don't 
know about your long question.-- glen

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Re: iMac G3 and PowerMac G3 (BW) - lowest MacOS version that it can run (without emulation)

[glen]

___

 From: Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: iMac G3 and PowerMac G3 (BW) - lowest MacOS version that it can 
run (without emulation)
 

 Additionally, what is the oldest OS that I can install on a PowerMac G3 
 (BW)? I'm really looking to downgrade as far as possible.

The earliest Yosemite will boot 8.5, but I wouldn't do anything earlier
than 8.6 on those models.



Not to  nick pick, but I pretty sure the earliest system is 8.5.1. I remember 
when I got my first BW I was frustrated when it would not boot 8.5. However, 
no problem with 8.6 as you suggest. --glen

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Re: Bringing G3 back into use

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- Original Message -
 From: AppleMac Revisited glyndwrby...@gmail.com

 
 Specification:
 Beige G3
 Power PC G3 266MHz 1MB Cache
 64MB/4GB HD/24x CD/MSO

 Machine has been out of use for a couple of years. Rebooted it this
 morning, screen message came up:
 
 “Your computer crashed or was not shut down properly the last time it
 was used. Your startup disk is being checked by Disk First Aid, and
 any problems will be repaired.”
 
 Mouse arrow appeared on screen alongside this message but arrow would
 not respond when I moved mouse control to click the proceed box. I
 remembered during regular use before that this would normally clear
 message and boot up machine.


Just a long shot. If you are using the original ADB mouse check the connection. 
I have had a similar problem when an ADB mouse connection was not fully seated 
or dirty.  --glen

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Re: Yosemite 400mhz rev2, ATT rv100, apple DVD player conundrum

[glen]

- Original Message -
 From: Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com
 To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 12:37 PM
 Subject: Re: Yosemite 400mhz rev2, ATT rv100, apple DVD player conundrum
 
 I thought you needed apples DVD decoder card to play DVDs from OS 9.
 It doesn't occupy a slot but attaches to the Rage 128 card.
 

That was my original thought but the OP has a Radeon 7000 installed. That 
should take care of the decoder problem.
http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-205178.html
 --glen

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OS 9.2.2 NetBook on a G4 DA

[glen]

I have set up a G4 DA 733 MHz, 1.5GB RAM Mac with OS 9.2.2  to run old legacy  
PageMaker Files. Some of my clients still need revisions to files that were 
created 10-15 or more years ago. Rather than convert them to InDesign files I 
decided this is a better way to go,


For some reason a retail 9.1 install disk would not install on the DA so I used 
the Apple NetBoot version to to install 9.2.2. I removed two extensions that 
had some reference to NetBoot and the system booted into a more modern desktop, 
a sort of a blue/gray version of OS X, really nice eye candy. However, upon 
boot I get the message:

Macintosh Manager cannot find any servers
You need to locate the Macintosh Manager server to use.
I hit the OK button

After more dialogue boxes and buttons I get:Enter the NetBoot password 
After I enter the default password all is fine, I'm in 9.2.2

Is  there anyway to avoid this dance with NetBoot queries  when I boot into 
9.2.2? Perhaps there is another extension that should be disabled? Or how can I 
locate the Macintosh Manager?


Suggestions appreciated, thanks  --glen

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Re: Free memory vs Disc burning

[glen]

 From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com

The burner is a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-127D


Just a WAG but could it be a drive firmware problem?

I found this thread on rpc1.org
http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=36515

Some Pioneer drives are FLASH_able some are not depending on the OEM. There 
maybe other threads on the rpc.1 forums regarding the  DVR-127D. --glen

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Re: g4 mdd getting louder?

[glen]

On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:32 PM, rumble rum...@metrocast.net wrote:

 it seems to me that my old g4 mdd fan noise has gotten louder.
 
 is there anything i can do to get it to quiet down again?
 

Clean out the dust. 


Absolutely, recently purchased a MDD and while unpacking it a dust bunny about 
the size of a mouse (the rodent) fell out.

When I opened the MDD up the inside was really dusty. Before I attempted to 
start it up, I blew all the internals out with the shop's air compressor. Now 
it is nearly as quiet as a cat that only makes noises when it needs to; you get 
the idea.

Look for a bunch of dust below the Garth Vader grill and also the dust in and 
around the power supply. And clean out all the dust you can find --glen

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Re: PM G5: When booting the DVD drive opens up

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- Original Message -
 
 Il giorno 17-03-2012 23:40, Cameron Kaiser ha scritto:
 
  Mouse glitch where it thinks the button is down?
 
 Yeah, I thought about that. But I never touch the mouse when I boot up, and
 I cannot think why it would behave that way only once in a couple weeks (or
 more).
 
 BTW, the mouse is, actually, a Wacom Graphire 4x5 tablet (ET-0405-U) combo
 with tablet, mouse and pen. Although is USB connected, is NOT a standard USB
 device (it doesn't work in most 3D videogames, in fact).
 
 I had the same tablet with my G3 and G4 since 1998 (going from MacOS 8.6
 thru 9.2.2, OSX 10.3 and 10.4), and this DVD drive issue never happened
 before this G5.
 I had my G4 DA for several years with the very same OSX (I actually cloned
 it to the G5 using CCC) and it never happened. So it looks more of an
 hardware than software issue.


Perhaps a dirty or loose USB connection sending the wrong signal like a 
depressed mouse button?

I had the same problem with a Sawtooth G4 and at first thought it was a 
firmware problem with the upgraded DVD drive. When I replaced the Sawtooth with 
DA attached to the same keyboard and mouse the problem continued with the tray 
opening on every boot. The mouse was connected to the USB port on the keyboard 
and the keyboard was connected to the logicboard.

After reading Cameron's recent post I unplugged everything from the USB ports 
on the DA logicboard and rebooted, The DVD tray did not open on boot for the 
first time in months. I reseated all USB connections and rebooted without the 
problem.


Thus I would look for a dirty or loose USB connection or bad cable or a faulty 
USB port causing the problem -- glen

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Re: MDD Boot Problem

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- Original Message -
 From: Jörg Duurkoop yaw...@gmail.com

  Humm, that could be the problem. The QuickSliver monitor was attached to 
 the VGA port. The MDD has no VGA port and that same monitor was attached to 
 the  
 MDD DVI port. The monitor is an old Dell with both VGA and DVI ports.

 You could always try a safe boot if you have an Apple monitor with an
 ADC connector. With a safe boot the main monitor will always be on the
 ADC monitor. That is if your MDD has an Apple video card ...
 

Be warned a long reply follows: [Just to recap, a newly acquired MDD boots fine 
on an old test hard drive called Mac OSX but refuses to boot to a different 
hard drive (Drive 1) on a cloned volume a  from a QuickSilver  which I want to 
be the main volume.]

I connected an ADC Apple display to to the MDD as Jörg suggested. I selected 
Drive 1 as the boot drive, and in safe mode the MDD booted to Mac OS X and asks 
for the password for the user in Drive 1, when entered it boots to Drive 1.

THIS IS THE DESIRED RESULT!

However, It seems odd that when Drive 1 was selected as boot drive Mac OS X 
comes up in single user mode and asks for the password of the user in Drive 1??

Once booted in Drive 1 in safe mode a restart results in the dreaded blue 
screen as reported earlier. Not the desktop blue screen just  a plain light 
blue with no variations in blue tones or swirls as in the default desktop of 
10.4.11. So now I don't think it is second monitor problem preference problem. 
(see earlier posts).

Perhaps as suggested in an earlier post, Disk Warrior may solve the problem. I 
know Disk Warrior is great to have in your toolbox. But given Disk Warrior cost 
more than I paid for the MDD, I will likely just do an Achieve and Install of 
10.4 as suggested in another post and hope that solves this weird problem. This 
in not a production machine so time is relative but dollars are not. :-)

Next and hopefully final question before I do a reinstall -- when Drive 1 
becomes the boot drive in safe mode why does a restart results in the dreaded 
blue screen? If I can get a boot to Drive1 what is preventing  boot on a 
restart?

Many thanks to Jörg, Peter, John  Eelco for your help --glen

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Re: MDD Boot Problem

[glen]

- Original Message -
 
     A similar sort of thing happened to me years ago but in my case it was
 caused by the extended desktop prefs. My mac thought I had two monitors
 connected and booted to the plain blue screen of the second display - the
 menus etc were on an imaginary monitor off stage left. It was caused in my
 case by a flashed video card which had vga and dvi but no vga through the
 dvi port and the mac presumed the dvi to be the primary display - but I had
 no dvi monitor at that time so I was stuck with the vga secondary screen and
 what became quite a problem - how to open, grab and drag system prefs from a
 monitor I couldn't see to the one I could and turn on mirroring. Probably
 not your problem but is the MDD set to the same primary video port as the QS
 was?

Humm, that could be the problem. The QuickSliver monitor was attached to the 
VGA port. The MDD has no VGA port and that same monitor was attached to the  
MDD DVI port. The monitor is an old Dell with both VGA and DVI ports.

Definitely something to play with after work. If that fails a reinstall of  
10.4.11 as suggested may be the way to go.

Thanks --glen

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MDD Boot Problem

[glen]

Spec's: 2003 MDD
dual G4 -1.25 Mhz
2 MB RAM
ATI 9000 Pro
Boot ROM 4.4.8f2

This MDD was newly acquired without a HD. I installed a a spare Western Digital 
(WDC W0800BB) 80 GB drive with OS 10.4.11 for testing purposes -- no problems 
with that drive, it boots fine. Then added a second 250 GB Seagate (ST3250620A) 
freshly erased with 2 empty journaled HFS+ partitions called Drive1 (80 GB) and 
Drive 2 (152 GB)

Using the WD 80 GB drive as the boot drive I cloned the data and system (OS 
10.4.11) from a backup of a QuickSilver drive to the empty Seagate partition 
called Drive 1. This will become the main startup drive for the MDD if I can 
get it to work.

Problem: The cloned QuickSilver drive will not completely boot. The grey screen 
with the apple logo appears, the gear like wheel rotates for 20-30 seconds and 
the screen goes to a blank blue screen; mouse and keyboard have no input.

What I have done to no avail:
Tried jumpers set to CS and set to Master/Slave
Tried a second clone using CCC. The first clone was made with SuperDuper!
Tried to boot the clone from the external FireWire backup
Booted in verbose mode
Ran 10.4.11 combo update on Drive 1
Installed new PRAM battery
Removed all PCI cards
Removed the both hard drives from the MDD and installed the actual 40 GB 
Seagate drive from the QuickSilver
Same blank blue screen on all accounts

However, a fresh 10.4.11 install from the install DVD to the empty Drive 2 
partition boots OK; that should eliminate problems with the MDD ATA/IDE 
controller or 250 GB Seagate drive.

Why won't the MDD boot from the QuickSilver clone, or from Drive 1 or from the 
actual QuickSilver hard drive? 
 Help, I'm running out of ideas --glen

BTW the WD 80 GB drive that does boot OK was pulled from a Sawtooth a few 
months ago.

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Re: MDD Boot Problem

[glen]

- Original Message -

 From: JohnCarmonne carmo...@aol.com
 On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:34 PM, glen wrote:
 
  Spec's: 2003 MDD
  dual G4 -1.25 Mhz
  2 MB RAM
  ATI 9000 Pro
  Boot ROM 4.4.8f2
 
 
  Problem: The cloned QuickSilver drive will not completely boot. The grey 
 screen with the apple logo appears, the gear like wheel rotates for 20-30 
 seconds and the screen goes to a blank blue screen; mouse and keyboard have 
 no 
 input.
 
  Why won't the MDD boot from the QuickSilver clone, or from Drive 1 or 
 from the actual QuickSilver hard drive? 

 The first thing is the MDD will always look to boot the drive at the end of 
 the 
 cable on the fastest Bus. However I'm pretty sure if you run DiskWarrior on  
 the cloned drive it'll boot.:-)
 

I have tried putting the QuickSilver drive a the end of cable with no other 
drives attached to the main/fastest 100 Mhz ATA bus and the problem persisted.

Unfortunately I do not have DiskWarrior. Perhaps now is the time for purchase. 
Depending on how picky the MDD is concerning the directory, maybe errors could 
explain the boot problem. However the drive works perfectly in the QuickSilver. 
I did run Disk Utility on the drive and the volume passed without errors but DU 
is no DW.

More history on the Quicksilver drivein question:
Originally it was installed in a G3 BW 350Mhz rev1 (OS 10.3.9) then 
transplanted to a 450 MHz rev2  BW and upgraded to 10.4.11 about 20 months 
ago. Finally installed in a G4 QuickSilver 867 MHz three months ago all 
upgrades had no problems. I thought OS 10.4.11 was compatible with all Mac's 
that supported 10.4.11 -- now I wonder??

Thanks, I sincerely appreciate the reply.  Before I lay down the bucks for DW 
anyone else have other suggestions -glen

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Re: Studio Display Monitor Broken Hinge

[glen]

 From: Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net

     After looking at the picture of where it broke my idea about JB Weld 
probably won't work? 


 From: glen glenst...@yahoo.com

This little Apple Studio Display M2454 monitor has seen light use and has a 
lot of life left. It has been attached to my Mac G4's for testing purposes. 
In a really dumb move I broke the acrylic stand connection to the monitor. I 
tried to super glue it together but as you may guess that did not work.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/6808551702

Thanks Richard I agree. It is a small monitor but is heavy enough to put a lot 
of sheer stress on the small plastic neck that is only about 4mm x 10mm. --But 
I was looking for a good epoxy for a different project maybe JB Weld is the way 
to go.


I may take Brian's easel or Roger's  tripod suggestions and check out the local 
retail outlets for such a devices. The wall mount is out since I only use the 
monitor to check out newly acquired used Mac's. And as suggested I may place an 
ad in the local Craig's List or FreeCycle for a broken Studio Display but I 
don't think they are that common around here.


Most likely it will quicker an easier for me to just make some sort of easel or 
tripod like device from left over wood hanging around the shop. It won't be 
pretty but it should work. I thought since the support base on these monitors 
are fragile and prone to break from boneheads moves like the one I did that the 
replacement parts would be available.

Thanks for ALL the replies --glen

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Studio Display Monitor Broken Hinge

[glen]

This little Apple Studio Display M2454 monitor has seen light use and has a lot 
of life left. It has been attached to my Mac G4's for testing purposes. In a 
really dumb move I broke the acrylic stand connection to the monitor. I tried 
to super glue it together but as you may guess that did not work.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glenstrek/6808551702

It looks easy to replace the broken part but any ideas where to get one. And 
what is it called. If I were to post a WTB to the LEM Swap List I would not 
know what to ask for. Perhaps there is a third party parts dealer that won't 
charge more for the part than the monitor is worth. Any ideas? Thanks, --glen

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Re: bots

[glen]

 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu

See EVERYONE starts out as a newbie at some point...:-)

It was about 6 months later that I got my own first Mac, proudly paying $850 
for a demo model Mac Plus at a computer store closeout sale, incidentally 
racking up my very first bit of credit card debt as well...ended up getting a 
add-on 800K external floppy some months later, then the harrowing and 
forbidden ordeals of cracking the case and upgrading it, first to 2.5 MB 
(clipping those resistor leads were literally more nerve-wracking than 
anything I've done since, including my wedding day.)

Ahh, you bring back old memories. For me it was clipping the resistor on a Mac 
SE. I was literally sweating bullets and feared a sweat drop would find its way 
to the motherboard and destroy the board. Worse, a year so latter I had to 
solder the clipped resistor back to the board for a processor or some other 
upgrade. Of course all this happens in the summer with the temp at 90 F.

We all learn,  now swapping out a processor or motherboard on my G4's seems so 
much less stressful. Thanks for the memories. -- glen

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Re: Flash work-around

[Glen McKnight]

On 11 Dec 2011, at 22:02, Lawrence David Eden wrote:

 Listers,
 
 Where can I find the flash player plugin that has been mentioned recently?  
 Guess I should have kept my old mail.
 On my DA running 10.4.11 Flash no longer works.videos fail to load .  
 What a drag!
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Larry
 
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Copied  from a previous email:


Hi

As you have a PPC mac you will have to download Flash Player 10.1, It is almost 
impossible to find on the Adobe Website, I eventually found it in an archive 
for Flash Designers, it seems that PowerPC mac owners are no longer supported.

Here is the link: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/142/tn_14266.html

Have Fun

Glen

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Re: connectivity question

[glen]

- Original Message -
 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu

 On Nov 21, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
 
  FAX is a nearly extinct technology, killed off by the internet. I can 
 understand needing to send or perhaps receive one FAX, but 
 adding FAX capability when the number of FAX machines available to 
 communicate with is quickly vanishing seems futile.
 
 You seem to inhabit a strange world where that which is not on the 
 internet is not, somehow, real. Faxes are in wide, wide usage. We just set 
 up network fax capability on a large Ricoh network copier/printer for one of 
 the 
 larger groups in the College here because their old bank of 4 fax machines 
 was 
 dying. They send and receive hundreds of faxes a week.
 
 About half of all prescriptions filled remotely in the US is done by fax 
 machine. A fax cannot be falsified via a MITM attack like an email can, nor 
 can 
 it be as easily forged, and faxes, unlike emails, support legal signature 
 requirements.

I think it really depends on what the OP fax needs are. I believe fax is a 
dying technology but not nearly extinct yet.

As owner of a small printing company that offers a fax service my 
copier/printers have fax capabilities that are used daily for many folks who 
need to send or receive requested documents to banks, real estate companies, 
academic, legal and medical institutions. Many of these clients are not 
computer savy or wish to spend the money and/or time to upgrade to a fax modem 
or an all-in-one machine. Some of these clients have payed more for my service 
than for a fax or or all-in-one machine costs. AND I have shared that info with 
them --but still they are not comfortable or confident with the technology.

So at one level for many of us the fax as means to send info is dead. For many 
others it is still essential.

Faxes are definitely more secure than email in the hacking sense. However as I 
stated in a previous thread, some people run for the WhiteOut and alter the 
documents before they are faxed. Sometimes just do this to hide their phone and 
address. And sometimes they write over the WhiteOut changing the integrity of 
the document. So in an analog sense faxes are also subject to fraud.

Getting back to the original problem, the OP has a need for a fax solution. 
Wouldn't a simple installation of the
 G4 internal modem work? Perhaps the QS 2002 has one already installed? 
They are selling for $5-10 on the LEM list. Don't know if they work with
 DSL? And I like Peter's suggestion of a 5-in-1 (all-in-one) idea, simple and 
to the point and more useful than a fax modem. --glen

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Re: MDD just shuts down by itself… opinions please.

[glen]

 From: Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com

Here we have an MDD powermac G4, 2gb ram Leopard 10.5.8  stock video with the 
only modification being a USB2.0 card.

The other night, the machine just powered down all by itself ... looks like 
PRAM battery? clock is doing the usual mishap... 



A  real long shot but perhaps a defective keyboard or keyboard 
cable/connection. I had the the shut down problem on a PCI Mac that had a 
failed keyboard. Don't recall any clock problem however. Try switching 
keyboards and cables. Overheating or a failed power supply as discussed is 
probably a more likely culprit. --glen

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Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected

[glen]

Thanks Paul that's exactly what I wanted to know. I run an old version of 
InDesign and PhotoShop. $50 sounds about right. I'll be checking the LEM Swap 
list an eBay for deals --glen



- Original Message -
 From: par prieme...@q.com
 To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 7:41 AM
 Subject: Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected
 
 I see a good speed hike with InDesign and Photo Shop. Usually the
 processor upgrades for the Quicksilver are so expensive I haven't even
 considered them, but recently got a good deal - $50 - which made it
 reasonable.
 Paul Riemerman
 
 
 On Nov 6, 4:56 pm, glen glenst...@yahoo.com wrote:
  - Original Message -
   From: par prieme...@q.com
 
   I just upgraded my 933 Mhz Quicksilver 2002 with a 1 Ghz dual
   processor. It was much easier than I thought it would be, based on
   installation instructions I picked up on the net, implying you're
   almost certain to bend the processor pins/wreck the upgrade processor.
   I just took special care to pull the old processor straight up, and
   not force in the new processor.
 
   Anyone you got the idea it's not an upgrade to try without extreme
   skill stop worrrying.
 
  I have a recently purchased 933 Mhz Quicksilver 2002. Just curious as to 
 how much of a noticeable speed increase you see with the dual 1 GHz upgrade. 
 I 
 have been thinking of doing a processor and video card upgrade on the cheap. 
 Any 
 recommendations on a video card upgrade?
 
  Not worried about the installation, as you stated be careful with the pins. 
 And I always use grounding strap to prevent any fatal static discharges. 
 --glen
 
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Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected

[glen]

- Original Message -
 From: par prieme...@q.com

 
 I just upgraded my 933 Mhz Quicksilver 2002 with a 1 Ghz dual
 processor. It was much easier than I thought it would be, based on
 installation instructions I picked up on the net, implying you're
 almost certain to bend the processor pins/wreck the upgrade processor.
 I just took special care to pull the old processor straight up, and
 not force in the new processor.
 
 Anyone you got the idea it's not an upgrade to try without extreme
 skill stop worrrying.
 

I have a recently purchased 933 Mhz Quicksilver 2002. Just curious as to how 
much of a noticeable speed increase you see with the dual 1 GHz upgrade. I have 
been thinking of doing a processor and video card upgrade on the cheap. Any 
recommendations on a video card upgrade?

Not worried about the installation, as you stated be careful with the pins. And 
I always use grounding strap to prevent any fatal static discharges. --glen

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Re: Slow Motion G4 After HDD Switch

[glen]

- Original Message -
 From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net
 
 Since the problem happens when booted in both OS 9  OS X, it's unlikely 
 to be a software  issue. You need to be thinking about hardware problems. 
 Zapping the PRAM isn't always enough, you may need to reset the NVRAM by 
 booting Cmd-Opt-O-F and typing:
 
 set-defaultsReturn
 reset-allReturn
 
 One thing that dramatically effects speed is the L2 cache. If the L2 cache 
 isn't functional, the speed will be REALLY slow. The Sawtooth has a 1MB L2 
 integrated into the G4 module. If the L2 goes bad, you would normally see a 
 warning when booting OS 9, and in OS X System Profiler I believe a bad L2 is 
 shown as no L2 or 0MB?

I reset the NVRAM and found the L2 cache in OS X to be 1 MB. I also ran Verify 
Disk in Disk Utility on the HDD and after 5 minutes it said all three volumes 
passed. But it is still incredible slow in OS 9 -- seconds to drag a folder to 
the Trash.

I was wrong about the speed in OS X. Given the  Sawtooth only has a 450 MHz 
processor I think its speed is normal. I ran the legacy software like PageMaker 
in Classic mode and all seemed normal. Perhaps a bit slower than native OS 9 
before the HDD switch but no real hesitation in opening files or window, no 
ghost images when dragging windows around, and no hesitation dragging files and 
folders into Trash.

The  problem seems to be with native OS 9. Could it be some kind of OS 9 
directory corruption? I have a pre OS X version of Disk Warrior but don't think 
it would be good to run it under OS 9 on a volume with OS X installed? I could 
try a clean install of OS 9 (ugh) or just run in Classic under OS X and 
re-managed the thousands of fonts-- not so bad and still fast enough for this 
legacy machine.

Anyway, thanks Kris, I appreciate your time.

AND
From: Wayne Stewart waynejstew...@gmail.com

How much space is left on your boot volume?

WDC HDD 74.3 GB (1024) total space
Boot  Volume: 37.1 GB total --  25.97 GB available
Data Volume: 27.25 GB total -- 17.88 GB available
Scrath Volume: 9.8 GB total -- 9.78 GB available

Best regards --glen

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Slow Motion G4 After HDD Switch

[glen]

Spec's: 

G4 Sawtooth 450 MHz, 1 GB RAM, OS 9.2.2. and OS 10.4.11 on same boot volume.
WDC 80 GB Master (boot), Seagate 80 GB slave (for back ups), ATTO UL2D SCSI 
card with a pair of 18 GB HDD drives for the old backups, and stock ATI Pro 
Video card.

This is a legacy machine running legacy graphic arts software (PageMaker 6.5, 
Extensis Suitcase, old PS, Illy, Acrobat, etc) in Mac OS 9.2.2 for old files 
that my clients routinely change and update for printing. It was easier just to 
print from the old stuff than redo or convert. Before the HDD switch it was 
running mostly OS 9 and was very quick and snappy.

When copying the data from the old drive I cloned the boot volume to an 
external Firewire drive volume and 
restored this clone to the WDC 80 GB. I cloned the data volume to another FW 
external volume and then cloned that to the Seagate 80 GB drive. I have checked 
the 
proper Master/Slave jumpers on the new HDD's

The problem:
When I do the simplest tasks in OS 9  --like close a window or drag a file to 
the trash the screen pauses for 5, 10, 15 seconds as it redraws itself.  
Desktop icons (only a few) unmount an remount and all work comes to a halt 
until the process is completed.

What I have done in OS 9 is:
1) Zapped the PRAM
2) Rebuilt the desk top of the boot volume and the data volume, both on the WDE 
80 GB drive.
3) Disconnected the SCSI drives from the ATTO card
4) Disconnected the slave 80 GB Seagate backup drive.
5) Left the computer on overnight in case it was some kind of indexing problem
6) Tried running Classic OS 10.4.11. I get a Server Not Found Message And 
I will also need to resolve a lot of font problems in.
6a) I deleted all recent server aliases in the Apple menu and unchecked auto 
update time in all Preferences.

Cause of the problem?

It doesn't matter to me if I run OS 9 or Classic in OS 10. I just need to get 
the old speed back. TIA --glen

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Re: Retr0Brite?

[glen]

From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu

I've acquired a Mac IIci case I'd like to clean up, and came across this:

http://retr0bright.wikispaces.com/ I vaguely recall some discussion of this 
a while back

Anyone have experiences with this? Should I be careful to mask the Apple logo 
and such? (it appears from the wiki that I don't have to; this system isn't 
that badly discolored, meaning a shorter treatment time)


I do not have any first hand experience but there has been a number of 
discussions of Retr0bright on the LEM Vintage list.
http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs
You  don't have to join, just search Retr0bright and Retrobright it will 
reveal a number of posts, along with other alternatives to fixing discoloring.


One of these days I may do the same and restore my IIFX. Good luck --glen

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Re: 16x DVD burning in PowerMac G4

[glen]

From: Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com
I'm going to top post on this one and ask the question:
WHAT THE HECK?
Tina

 *Awesome Pictues
 te: Wed,7 Ju2011 9:06:13 -0600*

 */Submarine Racing - Awesome Pictures”/**
 The 2009 World Submarine Racing Championships held from New London
 Connecticut to Hamilton Bermuda **

 **Well, ...What did you expect to see
 They're submarines…



I suspect someone included an an errand email/spam in the reply or perhaps its 
just plain spam.

Usually I find this annoying but the fact that I have a partial view of the New 
London Harbor and indeed do see US Navy submarines going to to and from the 
submarine base on my side of the harbor made the spam interesting to me.


The joke (not very funny) is you can't see submarine races from sea level. I 
suspect the military may do such exercises -- who knows? Submarine info is TOP 
SECRET.


In my early life I worked in the shipyard that built many those Navy subs. And 
today the shipyard parking lot boarders my residence.  Which made the post even 
more bizzaro. Very strange --glen

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Re: Snoring G4 Digital Audio?

[glen]

- Original Message -

 I replaced the power supply on my DA with a regular $20 ATX supply
 modified according to the instructions at this link:  http://atxg4.com/
 Perhaps he is still selling the harnesses. ($20)
 
 It works. If you compare the pinout diagrams you will note the
 differences between the various machines.


Thanks Bruce, Valter, et al.

I have taken the easy way out. The sledge hammer solution :)

Thanks to Barry in Cranston, RI, I picked up a 867MHz Quicksilver for about the 
same cost as an ATX PS with the conversion harness and the resulting shipping 
charges.

I came to realize the 28 pin DA PS's are rather rare to find used and expensive 
to replace. Of course the fan replacement would be less expensive. But there is 
no reason to believe is is just simply a fan problem. The fan speeds up which 
indicates a heating problem and then the fan vibrates loudly. Which brings 
about the proverbial chicken or egg question.

If and when I ever have time I may try to replace the PS fan and I will 
definitely keep an eye on the SWAP list for an inexpensive DA power supply. In 
the mean time I will use the DA 'til next weekend (or until if fails) when I 
will transfer the DA guts to the QS. Always wanted a QS anyway.

Shameless plug for Barry in Cranston, RI: If you are in Southern New England 
his shop has lots'a Mac's -- vintage thru G4's at least --  and he opened up on 
the Labor Day holiday for me and another customer. You can find on the SWAP 
list. He certainly made my day.

Thanks all --glen

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Snoring G4 Digital Audio?

[glen]

My DA sounds like its snoring  -- Wooooo_zz. Sorta' like 
entering a bedroom with someone asleep -- inhale-exhale snore about every 5 
seconds or so. This condition just started a few days ago.

The problem seems to be coming from the power supply fan speeding up (heat 
issue?) and then vibrating . I have blown out all dust from the PS and the rest 
of the internals. The main case fan seems to be OK.  I can feel the vibration 
when I touch the case of the PS during the  times.

So, the questions:
1) can it be fixed? I read recent tread about PS high voltage so I don't think 
I want to get fried replacing the the PS fan.
2) is the DA PS the same as the G3 BW as I have some spares?
3) what other cheap PS's can be used as a replacement?
4) does it matter? I can deal with the noise, but is an impending PS failure 
imminent? This is my main business computer.

Thanks as always, --glen

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Re: You all have probably figured it out by now

[glen]

 Subject: You all have probably figured it out by now
 
 but fuse.net is spazzing out  again.  I've gotten like 400 LEM list bounces 
dating back to january from  someone there just this morning...
 -- 
 Bruce Johnson


fuse.net? -- no problem here, really sorry --glen

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Re: Bounced mail?

[glen]

From: Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com

Anyone else getting tons of bounce mail coming back? Stuff you sent a long 
time 

ago?

So far no problems here. --glen

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Re: You all have probably figured it out by now

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: glen glenst...@yahoo.com
  Subject: You all have probably figured it out by now
  
  but fuse.net is spazzing  out  again.  I've gotten like 400 LEM list 
  bounces 

 dating back  to january from  someone there just this morning...
  -- 
   Bruce Johnson
 
 
 fuse.net? -- no problem here, really sorry  --glen

I just found 45 LEM bounces in my Spam folder. At least they are easy to 
delete. 
--glen

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Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Jerry apple.mail.lis...@oryx.cc


 strange, it used to be only the softies that relied on file name
 extensions  to determine file type.  Apple people had the resource fork
 and Unix  people had /etc/magic .
 
 Anyway, you can write a nice script that would be  a whole lot more
 robust, but the quick and dirty way would be to run this  from the
 directory where all of your images are located in an xterm, or in  a
 Terminal.app window:
 
 % file * | grep -i tif
 
 This would  identify your tiff files, and then you can move them off to
 another  directory, or what ever you need to  do.

Another easy terminal command that even I could do. I have written them all 
down;  I know one day I will need them.

The quick and dirty way I used was simple cmd-F in Finder. Since all the files 
had a unique six-letter prefix I entered it into the find box this gave me 
3400+ 
file and 3400+ sub folders. Refining the search to Image files gave me the 
list of 3400+ TIF's I needed. Then dropping after them all into the desktop 
printer icon --  20 hrs later all files were printed and billed. Thanks, I 
promise I will learn terminal, I will learn terminal, I will learn --glen

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Re: RealTek 8169 in Beige G3 on OSX?

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: t...@io.com t...@io.com

   Alternatively you can hold down command-V whilst  booting to get the 
verbose start up
   and watch carefully for things  mentioning the card.
 
  Thank you, Bruce.  I will investigate these  avenues this evening and
  report back.  Perhaps I'll also try a different  PCI slot and pull the
  USB card (far fetched, but unlikely to  hurt).

  Also forgot to boot up in verbose  mode.
 Should have done that.  Sigh.
 
 But I didn't want to put  hours and hours into it again.   I have
 firmly reminded myself that this  exercise is to speed the transfer of
 data off of the machine, not to become  an expert at installing 8169
 cards.
 
 So, it occurred to  me
 
 The 8169 works great in OS9.  The files are all available and  visible
 in OS9.   I'll just boot into OS9 and transfer the files off of  the
 machine, over my network, and to the Mini, while the Beige is  booted
 into OS9.   :-)  QED.
 
 OS9 might be slower than OSX at  network activity (is it?) but the Mini
 only has a 10/100 port anyway.   So with the Beige slinging data at
 gigabit, and throttling down to 100 at the  switch on its way to the
 mini, I imagine the Beige in OS9 will give me as  good of performance
 as the other bottlenecks can take.
 
 Then I can  store or dispose of the giant Beige and the tiny little
 Mini will become the  household iTunes server.  Yea.
 
 Perhaps some day I'll revisit this  issue out of curiosity.   Darn it.
 The 8169 ought to work, and it bugs  me that it doesn't
 


Sounds like a good plan. I doubt OS 9 is slower than OSX in network transfers 
in 
a Beige G3.

If you ever decide to revisit the issue be sure to use the cmd-V Verbose mode 
at 
boot.  Aside from all the googlely-gook you see on screen it can provide a lot 
of good info on the card in question and I think there is a way to print it out 
(from logs) if goes too fast to read. I used this method on my unsupported OSX 
Mac's to help solve a few  problems in years past. --glen

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Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com

 
  I'd like to rather see this as a get to know something new every day.  ;-)
 All right then!
 
  When you print something, the system reads  the file and sends the DATA to
  the printer... regardless of the original  file format it was saved in.
  (at least, that's what I  understood)
 You're right. I was still thinking in terms of Postscript  printers,
 but these days most printers just get a bitmap formatted properly  for
 them by the printer driver. That leaves me wondering what a  printer's
 CPU is doing these days.
 Anyway, the OP might look into a RAM  upgrade for that printer. That
 would be kind of an answer to his question,  after all.
 
  Saving an uncompressed TIF or an higly compressed JPG  takes the same time 
(on a
  modern Mac), but with the JPG you get 1/10th  of the size (or less).
 Yes, but I was talking of lossless compression, where  tighter
 compression requires more passes through the file. Photoshop  doesn't
 give a choice when saving TIFF files except for Layer  Compression,
 where ZIP takes about twice the time. But it's true, that's  only a
 few seconds difference on my 2x500 G4 (for a 2MB file).
 


I'm the OP, FYI here's a follow up.

The job took about 20 hrs to print the 3400+ files, approximately 200 files/hr 
not counting downtime. No problem since I could do other work while the files 
printed in background. They are legal files so I needed to check the numbered 
pages and noticed 3 or 4 pages out of 100 were printed out of sequence; for 
example 1,2,3,5,4,6,7 and so on.

The system:
DA 733 MHz with maxed RAM @ 1.5 GB
Canon IR C3220 color copier/printer with Fiery imagePASS C-1 RIP
The RIP to much to my surprise is only an Intel PIII 850 Mhz with either 128 MB 
or 256 MB RAM.

So, here is my observations using Activity Monitor and a wall clock. When I 
drop 
200 TIFF files into the desktop printer. The files start to  print in about a 
minute. The DA CPU is pegged at nearly 100% for about 1/2 hour then drops top 
about 4-6% unless I use the DA for other work. The printer continues to crank 
out pages at about 4 ppm.

The files are approx 100 KB TIFF compressed. From PhotoShop, the resolution is 
300 ppi and image size is 2535x3368 pixels (8.45 in. x 11.227 in.)

The RIP seems to be the bottleneck. In practical terms the old 733 MHz Mac can 
process files twice as fast as the RIP. Good exercise, thanks for all who 
replied. --glen

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Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it

  Most multi-page  documents (.pdf's or even M$ Word docs) print at the 
  usuall 
30
  to 80  page/minute even if they large color files. I wonder why these small 
B/W
   .tif scans take so long?
 
 It might be because they are probably compressed  TIFFs, so the actual
 (uncompressed) data si much bigger (let's say some  megabytes uncompressed vs
 60 kylobytes compressed?).
 If the printing sends  the uncompressed image binary data, it'll take some
 time...
 
Yes, that explains it.

So I ran some tests for the Geke minded.

The test file was 76 KB in its original configuration.  This is the size is 
from Get Info in Preview as the default viewer in 10.4.11. When saved as 
uncompressed it grew to 8.1 MB. When saved again with LZW compression it was 
220 
KB.

When I changed the default application to PhotoShop the original file grew to 
144 KB. When saved as uncompressed it grew to only 1.1 MB. A lot less than 8.1 
MB file from Preview .  When saved with LZW compression in PS it dropped to 236 
KB and when saved with ZIP compression it was 212 KB.

Certainly many different file sizes. And I don't have a clue why.

I wonder what compression was used originally to get the file to 76 KB? It 
would 
be a lot more efficient to store or email a 76 KB files than 200+ KB files if 
we 
could do that in an OSX environment.

The file is a 1 bit/channel B/W (line art) not 8 bit greyscale. I assume the 
scans were done on a commerical high speed document scanner in a Windows 
environment. Perhaps the same scanner is also compatible with Mac OSX. I would 
love to get my letter size 1 bit .tiff scans down to 70-100 KB compressed size 
but then I only using inexpensive flatbed scanners.

Just a FYI report. --glen

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Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu

 On May 28, 2011, at 4:41 AM, Geke wrote:
 
  Or: Glen could  batch-process the images, i.e. open them and save them
  uncompressed, and  then print those. That would take the load off the
  printer’s processor  and put it on the Mac’s CPU.
 
 
 Decompressing the tiff file (which is  LZW compressed) is done by the CPU 
anyway, not the printer.
 


This is what transpires:

When I send 100 or 200 compressed tiff's to the Canon IRC3220 copier/printer. 
It 
takes 1-2 minutes to get the green light on the copier/printer start flashing 
indicating that files are received and printing starts in about another minute,

The spinning beach ball on the Mac spins for about another minute and goes 
away. 
Then the activity monitor on the Mac CPU is around 4% unless I use the mouse or 
do other work and then of course the CPU activity goes up.

100 compressed files are approximately 10 MB so I think the transfer time over 
10baseT Ethernet is about right. But I suspect the RIP* in copier/printer is 
taking the heavy load and processing the files since it takes about an hour to 
print 200 files and in the mean time the Mac is total useful for other work.

I don't have the spec's for the RIP in the 3220 but do know it is faster that 
the RIP in my other copier/printer which has dual-core 2.5 MHz processor.

Really would not expect my outdated 733 MHz DA to process these files in a 
shorter time than the RIP in a production machine -- but I really don't know 
all 
the in's and out's of the process so I'm guessing.

Thanks again Bruce as always you have been so very helpful. --glen

*RIP for the non-Geke this stands for Raster Image Processor which takes the 
pixels in the file and turns them into a printed page (greatly oversimplified).
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raster_image_processor

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Re: Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
 
 On May 26, 2011, at 5:31 PM, glen wrote:
 
  Sooo, the QUESTION: is  there any Mac software that will sniff out  the 
.tiff
  docs and send  them to my high speed commercial digital copier and allow me 
to
  print  the 3000 pages without having to open each tiff file separately to to
   print it. Or is this just another Mico$oft  I got'cha.
 
 
 tiff  files are not microsoft files. You can use the OS X command line to 
achieve  this.
 
 see  http://www.mcelhearn.com/2004/12/08/printing-from-the-command-line/
 
 Yes  you should be able to do what you want; but it will take some unix 
 chops. 

The  find command is your friend.
 
 So the concept is 'find all the files like  *.0001- *.0300 on the CD' and 
 send 

them to the lp command specifying the  high-speed printer.'
 
 the find command should be able to do this.   Hopefully someone with better 
unix command-line skills can manage  this.
 

Yes the Find Command!

I did not need to use command-line -- one day I will need to learn more unix.

I just used the Cmd-F in Finder. The first six letters of all the files to be 
printed are the same and unique. The 

result was a list of 3431 subfolders and 3431 .tif files (one in each 
subfolder). Why does commerical M$ scanner software put each scan in a 
subfolder 
-- ahh, never mind it's M$.

Then I refined the search from Kind-Any to Kind-Images and that gave me a 
list of the 3431 .tif's. Now I can select as many files as I want to print by 
clicking on the first and scrolling down the list while holding the shift and 
clicking on the last. Or I could hit cmd-A to select all 3431 files -- didn't 
do 
that.

Then I dragged the selected batch into the desk top printer Icon and they print 
away in the 

background. I could still use Mac DA for all other work or browsing or checking 
emails. Wow!

Also switched commercial digital copier/printers from a B/W Canon IR8070 to a 
color IRC3220 (in B/W mode) with a faster RIP this increased speed to 4 
prints/min. Generally these machines produce 30 to 80 copies/min but these 
small 
(60kb) .tif scans really slow things down. Of course I could use both machines 
at the same time but really needed to keep one available for other work.

Most multi-page documents (.pdf's or even M$ Word docs) print at the usuall 30 
to 80 page/minute even if they large color files. I wonder why these small B/W 
.tif scans take so long? Oh well got 1200 pages printed today only 2200 more to 
go :-).

And worked out a deal with the law firm on cost, so I'm good.

Thanks Bruce, --glen 

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Need to Print Thousands of Micro$oft doc scans, Ahhh

[glen]

Here's the deal. I have been given a CD with more than 3,000 pages scanned in 
the .tiff format, I assume they were scanned with a high speed commercial 
digital copier/scanner in a Windows office environment.

For security reasons, the scan folder is named xxx_0001. There is also another 
nondescript file named xxx_0001.OPT.

A seach reveals OPT is:  OPT file is a Microsoft Visual Studio Workspace 
Options. This is a binary file that is the workspace options file for the local 
computer.

When I open the scan folder I see 3000 subfolders with names xxx.0001 to 
xxx.3000. If I open each subfolder I see a one page tiff scan with consecutive 
legal Bates Numbers xxx.0001 thu xxx.3000.

I did open and try dropping the first 15 pages of .tiff files into  my desktop 
printer icon and it prints about 2 pages/minute. That translates to 30 hours 
non-stop time without breaks or interruptions.

These are legal docs I received from a respected local law firm I that I do 
business with and my job is to print them.  I do not think think the firm is  
willing to pay for 30 hours of work and I would not feel justified in that 
charge.

Sooo, the QUESTION: is there any Mac software that will sniff out  the .tiff 
docs and send them to my high speed commercial digital copier and allow me to 
print the 3000 pages without having to open each tiff file separately to to 
print it. Or is this just another Mico$oft  I got'cha.

This print shop is totally Mac with no Windows PC's.

I am using a DA 733 with OS 10.4.11 for this job, any suggestions? --glen

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Re: Extracting JPEGl Files From Phone Attachments

[glen]

  So I assume I am not selecting and saving   the proper header text info for 
a
  graphic reader to open the file  properly. If I drop the entire file into 
  PS 
I
  still get the same  message. Perhaps I need to add some kind of text marker 
to ID
  the file  as jpeg? --glen
 
 
 
 
 Save the file from the start of /9j/ to  the end before the 
 --NextPart--- etc.
 
 Bring up command prompt,  and do:
 
 openssl base64 -d -in infile -out  outfile
 
 And it will convert the file to an actual jpg from a  base64 encoded 
 attachment.  Should do the trick!
 
 -- 
 Brielle Bruns
 The Summit Open Source Development  Group
 http://www.sosdg.org/  http://www.ahbl.org
 


OK, by infile I assume you mean something like 
/Users/userone/Desktop/attachment6a.txt without the brackets.? And outfile 
 would be something like /Users/userone/Desktop/attachment6a.jpg  without the 
brackets?

And the commands are in Terminal? As you may perceive  I am not an experienced 
Terminal user. But this is very good info and if I can get it right I may be 
very useful for future problems. Wow, great to now the Unix shells of OS X can 
do so much that most of us just don't know about.

As far as this specific problem, I have found that an old  version of Suffix 
Expander will sort through all the garbage and decode MOST of the base64 
attachments (.pdf's and jpg's) -- but not ALL.

The memorial program is on track to be printed on time and all the mission 
critical info is at hand.

Thanks for all who replied: Graphic Converter --great program did not help in 
this odd circumstance.  All who responded on of off list with the need to 
decode 
was correct. How to decode will be a good learning experience for me. I will 
pursue it. Great list! --glen

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Extracting JPEGl Files From Phone Attachments

[glen]

Perhaps there is a better list or forum for this problem but since I'm using a 
G4 733Mhz DA and OSX 4.11, I will try here first.

The project is to print a memorial program for a fund raising event for a local 
HS student  who tragically died after a seizure during an athletic  event.

Most of the graphics work is done but it would be good get access to a couple 
of 
JPEG's the client has sent -- apparently from a smart phone.

All I received are files called Attachment 5, Attachment 6. ect. I can open 
them in a text editor like TextEdit or in Firefox but not in PhotoShop or Illy. 
 
I can see all the headers and read the email tread if I ignore the HTML coding. 
Then  I see to the file jpg or pdf . When  I delete all the extraneous text and 
save as jpg or pdf --no go in PhotoShop even after adding the proper suffix 
(.jpg or .pdf)

Also  noted the files were encode in base 64, so on  a lark a ran then through 
Stuffit  Expander 12 and the .pdf files translated and are usable not so the 
JPEG files.

Is there any way to extract these embedded JPEG files? I can see them in text 
mode. --glen

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Re: Extracting JPEGl Files From Phone Attachments

[glen]

- Original Message 

 From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net

 On May 8, 2011, at 6:04 PM, glen wrote:
 
  Most of the graphics work is  done but it would be good get access to a 
couple of
  JPEG's the client  has sent -- apparently from a smart phone.
 
 Why do you believe they're  .jpeg format?
 My guess is you've got some other format.
 
  All I  received are files called Attachment 5, Attachment 6. ect. I can 
open
   them in a text editor like TextEdit or in Firefox
 
 Can't you just drag 'n  drop the individual photos from TextEdit or Firefox 
directly onto your desktop?  Then open these desktop files with something like 
GraphicConverter or  PhotoShop.

Kris,
If I delete all the extraneous email headers, HTML code and actual email  
messages I'm left with this:

--_=_NextPart_006_01CC0431.20606A80--

--_=_NextPart_005_01CC0431.20606A80
Content-Type: image/jpeg;
name=Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Description: Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename=Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg

/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAZABkAAD/7AARRHVja3kAAQAEZAAA/+4ADkFkb2JlAGTAAf/b
AIQAAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQICAgICAgICAgIC
AwMDAwMDAwMDAwEBAQEBAQECAQECAgIBAgIDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMD
AwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMD/8AAEQgBWgIuAwERAAIRAQMRAf/EAMIAAQACAgMBAQEBAAA

[Cut]
this  goop goes on for a number of MB's

I did try saving the entire file as .jpg and opening in PhotoShop and I get the 
message:

Could not open attachment6.jpeg because JPEG marker segment length is too 
short (file may be truncated or incomplete).

So I assume I am not selecting and saving  the proper header text info for a 
graphic reader to open the file properly. If I drop the entire file into PS I 
still get the same message. Perhaps I need to add some kind of text marker to 
ID 
the file as jpeg? --glen

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Re: can't print from os9 classic from g4 mdd

[Glen McKnight]

On 13 Apr 2011, at 01:36, rumble wrote:


i have os 9 classic on my g4 mdd (running 10.4.11)

i managed to get some of my classic programs to my os 9 partition
(namely pagemaker 6.5)
and i can run pagemaker ok, but i can't get it to see my epson printer
on the os x system.

it doesn't show up in the chooser in os 9 and i can't seem to figure
out how else to get it to see the printer using any networking or
printr sharing in my os x prefs panels.

can someone help me get this happening?

thanks

--  


Hi

I have the same problem, I select laserwriter in the chooser and then  
in the print menu I save as a PS File (If you are running classic in  
system 10 it will open in preview and print, exactly as your original  
layout).


Have Fun

Glen

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Re: can't print from os9 classic from g4 mdd

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: rumble rum...@metrocast.net
 To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 12:30:19 AM
 Subject: Re: can't print from os9 classic from g4 mdd
 
 i don't see save as pdf as an option in pm 6.5.

  
 In PM 6.5 you must export to PDF.  Choose FileExportAdobe PDF, then save 
and print --glen

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Re: can't print from os9 classic from g4 mdd

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: rumble rum...@metrocast.net

 
 i just tried exporting as a pdf, but pagemaker is asking me to  select
 a postscript printer from the chooser (which i don't have)
 and i do  not believe these (or any) newer inkjet printers include
 drivers for os  9.


PM 6.5 will export directly from the file menu (file export Adobe PDF) if 
Acrobat Distiller is installed. Acrobat Distiller is installed as part of the 
PM 
6.5 default (Easy Install option). If it is not installed you can install it 
from the PM 6.5 installation disk either directly from the Adobe Distiller 3.0 
folder or by using custom install and just installing Adobe Distiller.

Short of Distiller there is or used to be a free extensions, one called 
Acrobat™ 
PDFwriter 4.05  and another one called AdobePS 8.8.0 which may be still be 
available from Adobe download site. When one or both are installed they will 
show up in Chooser as printers. They reside in the OS 9 Extensions folder. I 
never had to use them to create a PDF  from PM 6.5

For a test I just created a PDF from PM 6.5 while in 10.3.9. Classic mode on a 
G4 Sawtooth. I did not have to use Chooser.

HTH --glen

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Re: Faxing from Mac - wanting Free Software other than built in

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
.
 
 At issue in many of these cases is an assured  chain of physical handling: 
something sent via email can be intercepted and  changed in transmission; a 
fax 
cannot.  

 


Well, sort of -- certainly in the electronic transmission of a document.

My business includes a public fax service. I have seen some folks grab a bottle 
of whiteout and change the content of the legal documents they are faxing. So 
the document faxed is not the original but an edited copy. Is this legal? Don't 
know, I'm not in a position to judge.

I have noticed over the past year or so my fax revenues have greatly increased 
due to real estate transactions, debt management issues and also court related 
legal problems. Some folks have spent more on faxes at my establishment than a 
new AIO machine from Stables would cost. But I do agree with Kris that the fax 
technology is on the way out but perhaps not for a few more years. Just my take 
--glen

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Re: New addition to my tool kit...

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
..
 
 ...something everyone who works with computers should have in their  kit...
 
 http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10622
 
 I'm buying a  bunch!


Ahh, from what I read your investments in tetra-grammatron phase inductance 
focusing screen may up in smoke.

But good luck --glen

tetra-grammatron phase inductance focusing screen (TGPIFS for short)
 Through a proprietary procedure using our inverse tetra-grammatron phase 
inductance focusing screen (TGPIFS for short), we were able to easily resurrect 
any IC reliably. Simply place the phase ring of the TGPIFS directly over your 
IC, inject your smoke, and you're done!

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Re: Leopard on an 800MHz eMac (ATI)? (... and stuff)

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: iJohn zjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com

 I  was wondering if anything other than performance might go wrong if I
 moved  her eMac to Leopard? Technically it doesn't meet the minimum
 requirement of  867MHz, but it's not very far off. So if the only
 concern is how well it  might perform it seems like it's worth trying
 it to find out.
 
 I  believe she's still running 10.3.9, Panther. I think she might be
 using  Internet Explorer as her web browser over a dial up connection.
 (I'd love to  move her to something faster than dial-up, but she can't
 really afford  anything much beyond the $10/mo she's paying now for
 NetZero.)
 
 The  main reason I expect to be messing with this eMac in a rather
 major way some  day is because when I attempted to back up her drive
 last night with CCC, it  was (1) unexpectedly slow and, more seriously,
 (2) there were drive read  errors in the CCC log. So far the files the
 read errors occur on are nothing  important. But I'm thinking the 8
 year old Seagate ST340015A 40GB drive in  this eMac is due to die.
 Probably sooner rather than later.
 
 Oh, almost  forgot. I'm not sure if it is still using the original PRAM
 (?) battery or  not. If so, that might also be on its last legs. If
 some day ... sure as heck  not going to be THIS month, but if some day
 after I file my taxes I ever go  inside the eMac to swap the hard
 drive, it probably would be prudent to  replace the PRAM at the same
 time. Where do you folks go to buy those? About  how much does a
 replacement battery usually cost?
 


Why not just upgrade to Tiger and use Safari or Firefox for a browser? It 
should 
be faster on the eMac than Leopard.

Does she have cable for TV? Some cable providers are providing internet access 
for $25 or less and some provide unlimited phone service for a few dollars 
more. 
So, check the combined cost of phone, TV and the $10 dial-up costs. It my be 
close to the current costs??

Check the HD for errors/repair with Disk Utility. If the  replacement is needed 
-- good time to replace the PRAM battery if the voltage is low. --glen

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Re: Overclock a G4 iMac?

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu

 On Mar 20, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote:
 
  I honestly  don't know what everyone complains about with G4s and
  Flash.  It  runs nearly flawlessly on both the Quicksilver 933mhz I had
  and the  733mhz Digital Audio Power macs with basically stock
   hardware.
 
 A LOT of Youtube's content is now HD, which is the problem;  people connect 
 to 
a yourtube video and it runs like crap because a machine that  old is just not 
capable of decoding HD flash video, particularly with the Flash  browser 
plugin.
 
 I can watch Youtube stuff adequately on my 1.67 GHz  AlBook, but only by 
downloading the video (in my case with CosmoPod) so I can  play the video with 
Quicktime (flash requires the Perian plugin, but so does  real life,. it's a 
must-have QT plugin for all mac users  http://perian.org/ )
 


Like most have stated I have had no success with viewing streaming Youtube 
videos. My best Mac is a 733 MHz DA and in streaming Youtube there are long 
pauses with only a few seconds of play. However once the video is downloaded 
using only the Activity window in Safari it plays without a hiccup with the 
free 
MPEG Streamclip video player on the DA. Copying the same video over to a  400 
Mhz BW it also plays without a hitch. I do have Perian installed but don't 
think Perian is needed with Streamclip.

All the vids downloaded are 3-10 minutes long and not likely HD. I guess if the 
files were much longer or HD this may not be practical but perhaps a sort'a 
work-around for some  old PPC Mac's? I don't view many Youtube vids just some 
favorite music that crops up from time to time. --glen


  

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Re: When you really need to erase data...

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com

 I was reading  this:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/datacenter/five-ways-to-intentionally-destroy-your-data/3848

 
 and  ended up watching  this:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTm36fcYCOc
 
 oh  my.
 
First shed it then smelt the remains. Pour the melt into a mold of Steve Jobs, 
or your favorite rock star or your favorite deity and sell it as an iStatue; or 
create a thinner mold suitable for framing.

Great opportunity here :) --glen


  

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Re: Apple Oompa Loompas!

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com
 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 2:26:27 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Oompa Loompas!
 
 At 2:15 PM -0500 3/4/2011, Yersinia wrote:
  On 3/4/11 10:10 AM, Dan  wrote:
  http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1948362
  
  And make sure you CRANK up the volume for the singing  Oompas!
  
  Hmmm, is this something which requires Leopard, Snow  Leopard or an Intel 
Mac? All I got (G4 867 QS/Tiger 10.4.11/Safari 4.1.3), for  as long as I was 
willing to put up with it (not long!) was a black screen and  really annoying 
interrupted dialog.
 
 It plays ok on my 933 MHz  QuickSilver, under Tiger.  Took a little while to 
get going tho.  The  site seems to be under quite a load.
 
 - Dan.



Plays just fine. Well, one small hiccup on my 450 MHz Smurf (an overclocked 400 
MHz) with 896 MB of RAM. Much better than most YouTube stuff. --glen


  

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Re: best site to check values

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: cdphoto ch...@cdphoto.com
 To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 5:32:19 PM
 Subject: best site to check values
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm new to the group. I'd love to get a link to the best site to  check
 the value of a couple
 of older Macs that I own, specifically a Power  PC 266MHz beige
 desktop.
 
 This unit is in working condition. And I  still have the original CD
 plus cables.
 Any links, or interest in this  machine is much appreciated.


Welcome,

Past auctions on ebay is good. -- glen


  

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Re: Word list Generator???

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu

 On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote:
 
  I would like a  generator to take Englosh and convert it to Pig Pen and 
  allow 
me to print it  since it takes forever to do it by hand. Anyone know of a 
program to do  this.
 
 Pig Pen?
 
 The only ref I find in a cursory Google search is  'pigpen' or Masonic cipher.
 
 Here's a site that does  it:
 
 http://www.purplehell.com/riddletools/pigpen.htm
 
 Or  you can just get the font...one of many...type your message, select all, 
change  the font,  voila`.
 
 http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/Font-Utils/BabelStone-Pigpen-.shtml
 
 Pr  possibly you mean Pig  Latin?
 
 http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/jbc/home/chef.html
 


I suspect Pig Latin, probably just a slip we old timers do from time to time.

But then maybe the Grateful Dead?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8B_YY327Pk

Pig Pen was a sorely missed band member. -- glen


  

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Re: Awesome mod...

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu

 Subject: Awesome mod...
 
 http://hackaday.com/2010/10/30/building-the-banana-jr-6000/
 

Super! Saw it on the Vintage List a day or two ago and it blew me away. --glen



  

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Re: Calling Apple Script Experts

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Jason Brown jason_brown1...@att.net

 I am actually very surprised that I have received 0 responses to this. I 
thought  sure that there would be a ton of people that were good with 
Applescript. Oh  well, thank you to each of you that read it and tried to 
figure 
things  out.
 
 On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jason Brown wrote:
 
  I have a  problem that I need some help with. 

The only help I can suggest is to find an Applescript group. Maybe someone on 
list can suggest a good one. I know they exist from my experience in the 
graphic 
arts industry. I remember posts for needs of scripts for a specific needs and 
know there is a great group or two out there that can help. I don't remember 
the 
name of the group(s).  Search? --glen


  

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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[glen]

- Original Message 

 From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com

 
 Raise your hand if you  used the link instead of reading the email!  ya right.

Here's my hand. I did not see the article at the end of the email; did see the 
link and went directly to the article. Another click for the ad guys.

I would have been more concerned of taking up too much wordage and wasted 
bandwidth when a link was all that was needed.

But hey, you are right in defending copyright laws, though they are somewhat 
vague and untested. These days someone may end up in the county jail for jay 
walking. So are the times.

Good call, --glen



  

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Re: IS the world about to change ?

[glen]

From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com


When you have done it all your life,  make dos, work arounds, Goldberg and 
McGivering get very old and tiresome. PCs promise a lot and deliver headaches 
whether 'Nux or Winslowz. I am tired ...

LOW END to me means poor.

People too poor to afford new computers.
People too poor to afford costly repairs.
People too poor to listen to the more affluent dismiss their needs.

Fear Apple? That is not the subject. 
Get it ?

-

Nah,

The make do's is what what life is about. Since I done the do's all my life 
(not 
just computers) , I don't know what I would do without them.  --Seriously 
consider it; they make  life worthwhile. 


I have lost two loved one's during the last year (stroke and cancer) and going 
though that  makes you really wonder what is important on this planet.

OK fear Apple is a bad choice of words; don't care  would have been better 
choice of words.

As far poor goes, I just received my first meager SS check this month. Still 
wonder if I can pay the heating bills. I live in New England. Sorry if I set 
you 
off. I do appreciate your concerns.  --glen

PS rants are OK by me --well within reason. -- ;)









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Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer

fluxstrin...@gmail.com

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/
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Re: IS the world about to change ?

[glen]

From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com


Content with prettier eye candy sells ideas If you cannot keep up with the 
current style your content looks flaky and suspect. Think here of 
mimeographed 

political flyers when Xerox came out. The medium in itself is a semaphore 
subtexting and toning whatever it expresses.

Rather than the democratizing effect that personal computers should have, if 
you 

cannot keep up financially your ability to put a message out is compromised.

Your comments about the struggle on the street level I can well identify with.  
Steve jobs has lost touch with the needs of the masses he sought in the old 
days. 


Well, the mimeograph analogy is not the best but does serve a an example of 
waning technology.

In the early 70's my political friends and I produced 2  3 color political 
flyers on a mimeograph. Xerox was a rather low quality black and white 
substitute at at that time. Even the Gestetner mimeo techs were amazed at what 
we could do with their machines and took samples of our work to their regional 
office. We were doing duotones on a mimeograph. It took Xerox another 30 years 
to get a decent color copier. --And we were hard pressed to buy food in those 
days.

I guess the point, is that if we are creative enough we will find solutions to 
the latest technological advances we are faced with regardless of our budget 
(or 
lack of). I have no fear of Apple or any other corporate giant. Just deal with 
it!! --glen


  

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Re: Just got my first apple desktop!

[glen]

 
 On Oct 5, 6:54 am, yolee yo...@hotmail.com wrote:
  I am  contacting Apple because
  i am hoping they can help me figure out the  specs on the CPUbecause
  I don't see anytihng anywhere. I am hoping they  can give me that info
  by the serial/model number on the card and then  start building!
 
 You might want to read this article, it is actually very  easy to get
 specs and user manuals for  Macs
http://www.maclife.com/article/tip_day/search_apple%E2%80%99s_specifications_page_serial_number
r
 


I'm coming in a little late. If you are just trying to identify the G4 model 
these links may help:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3082
http://support.apple.com/kb/TA25585

They show the different port configurations on the various G4's --glen


  

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Re: Hardware or Software Problem?

[Glen McKnight]

On 20 Sep 2010, at 22:59, Drew Anderson wrote:


Hello All,

I sometimes get a message on my G4 Sawtooth, You need to restart  
your computer. Hold down the power button for several seconds or  
press restart. in 4 or 5 languages. Is this  an OS glitch? Hardware  
problem? Memory problem? I've been getting the same message a lot on  
my G4 iBook as well.


G4 Sawtooth w/Sonnet 1.3Ghz dual core.
OS 10.4.11
1.5 GB RAM

Cheers,
Drew



Hello Drew

Try restarting your machines with an installer disk in and running the  
Disk Utility.app and see what turns up.


Have Fun

Glen



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Re: Happy birthday OS X!

[glen]

- Original Message 
 From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
0:40 PM
 Subject: Happy birthday OS X!
 
 OSX is 10 years old today...September 13, 2000, the OS X 10.0 public beta was 
  
released...
 
 http://tinyurl.com/32a2ac7
 

Wow, times flies as the saying goes. Still have a 10.0x disc and the 10.1 
upgrade! So many changes in my computing and my life in the last 10 years.

Thanks Bruce, I need that fact --glen



  

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Re: ITunes 10

[Glen McKnight]

On 7 Sep 2010, at 12:35, Nikki Wraith wrote:

It is an issue with how the version is listed. There is a plist edit  
that fixes it. Google will help you find the fix.




Thank you, this was the fix I needed to get my alarm back again, I  
also used the feedback as suggested by Kris Tilford.


Again thank you.


Have Fun

Glen



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