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Hi Damien AND ALL.
Thomas and Clemant have done a pretty excellent job of covering this, so I
won't have a whole lot to add here other than the suggestion that you maybe
spend some time listening to some gaming videos on youtube, there are all
kinds of them out there, this may give you some ideas
I know. That's why I'm probably not going to go that route in my games. I
don't have it in me to support JFW anymore.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, August
well unfortunately there are those that are stuck with it.
being that most organisations for jobs and stuff here seem to only
recognise jaws I actually use it.
though I actually like sapi support.
if you can support nvda then thats also good since nvda has its own library.
I have not seen many
Games rarely support hal anyway in a self voicing sense, though it is good
with programs like smugglers with unusual interfaces.
To be honest though, when games are on windows, i really don't see what
wrong with sapi, especially sinse for any serious gamer getting a good sapi
voice is a bit
Nice coverage.. I love detail. grin. I would also recommend a ps2... as it
has the bigest amount of accessible games in my mind, and is reasonably
priced. Snag one if you can and give it a wirl before thinking about any
current-gen stuff.
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From: Tom Randall
I would like to agree on everyone who's expressed contempt for Freedon
Scientific... I've converted to window-eyes and to be honest, I love it a
lot more and always have. It's more customizable, and suport is a lot
better... I've had a lot of people tel me JFW has better tech support, and I
First, I so agree. I converted to window-eyes my self. I actually been a we
user since 4.5 in 2004 to about 7, but then I got a vista pc and, I sort
of, ok, I'l say it outright, I was using a cracked version of jaws, as nvda
wasn't as stable as it is now back then. Later I could finally afford
7-128 Software now uses SAPI Voices in their games.
7-128 Software games that are BL rated have always self-voiced as well as
worked with JAWS.
But our voice was, well... not shall we say very elequant.
We've changed that.
Now all of our games that are accessible to gamers who are blind can use
Hi Dark,
Right. In fact, in the latest build of the Genisis Engine I have added
SAPI 5.x support. I haven't yet converted MOTA over to SAPI but like
you I believe buying high quality voices such as the ATT Natural
Voices, Cepstral Voices, etc is a bit like buying a joystick. It is a
game
Hi,
That's unfortunately true. Here in the U.S. most organizations and
government agencies only recognize Freedom Scientific's products in
any official copacity. However, with free and open source solutions
like NVDA out there one can choose to pass on Jaws and choose to use
NVDA instead. If they
speaking of screen reader support, will system access support be included in
your game engine and any future titles?
On Aug 7, 2010, at 12:59 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Louis,
Honestly I can't blame you. that's why I have not really been using or
supporting Freedom Scientific products much
Hi Charles,
You are absolutely right from a business point of view. However, there
are plenty of alternatives than supporting the screen readers
directly. For example, Time of Conflict and Lone Wolf allow you to
select SAPI, Jaws, or Window-Eyes. As far as I am concerned using SAPI
5 support is
Hi Brandon,
Smile. As I said in a previous post I have a general polacy not to
support any screen reader directly. For one thing it is extra work
trying to directly support Jaws, System Access, NVDA, Window-Eyes, etc
when there are easier solutions like SAPI 5 that would work just as
well. Plus by
Hi Phil,
Thanks for the news. That rocks. I happen to like the 7128 games and
it is very cool they are now Sapi 5 compatible.
Cheers!
On 8/7/10, Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net wrote:
7-128 Software now uses SAPI Voices in their games.
7-128 Software games that are BL rated have always
o that makes sense.
On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Brandon,
Smile. As I said in a previous post I have a general polacy not to
support any screen reader directly. For one thing it is extra work
trying to directly support Jaws, System Access, NVDA, Window-Eyes, etc
when
HI,
I must absolutely agree with the message below! That is like totally
criminal. I never liked jaws anyways. It started to become worse and
worse from the first version it was built. It seems like they don't give
a damn about fixing issues. They instead add more useless, even more
broken
Hi,
OH, and something else to mention. Why on earth does jaws lock the arrow
keys! I mean no! And I do say no, other screen reader does that, as far
as I know. They always are passed through to the application. Maybe not
how they are supposed to be, but they are anyway, so they still work.
Hi Kevin,
Well, I don't know for certain what the developers did, but I have
enough background knowledge of the problem to make an educated guess
as to why Jaws locks up whenever you play a game that uses DirectX. I
remember several years ago when I was writing Jaws scripts all of the
keyboard
The same goes for canadian groups and businesses... I'm part of the
Vancouver school district in Canada, and the only screenreadeer that the
special educational institute leds students like myself is JFW, though I've
tried time and time again to convince window-eyes is the way to go.
-
True. Though, I wonder if their are any iksesible games for the nintendo
wii? I could say, A sited game is all random. Yes, Tom, I agree, but also
tri to memerize things. I no its hard.
My audio games for the blind group.
Discussions off topic are welcome in the holidays. Talking about games is
There are accessible games for the nintendo wii... but not as many for the
ps2. The only ones are games like the dragonball z games, Mortal kombat...
better on the ps2, and tatsunoko vs. Capcom. TVC is a great game, and I got
a wii and I only play that one game. However, like I said, a ps2 far
Hi,
This also applies to the pac mates - which are horribly out of date and need
huge revamps. And also cost ten times more than the compitition. Well that's
an exageration, but you get my drift.
The fact they sued a non prophit organization because of a small thing like
this is just
It's the same here. Although the department I work for is getting sick of
freedom scientific - do you know that they won't let aroga sell their
products any more? - And they're going to be buying a few copies of window
eyes for students. Here in manitoba that is.
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Nope i totally disagree on that one. The hole no activations for sixty days
thing is a bit rediculous. I'll be switching to the mac, actually. And using
NVDA and sapi 5 on windows.
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From: clement chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list
That's probably the main reason why my games most likely won't have direct
screen reader support. I don't think I have it in me to be impartial about
each company, Greedom Science Fiction least of all. Not only that but as
Thomas said it's a lot more extra work than just coding it to work off
Lucky you... wish I could get aroga n vancouver to see WE instead of JFW.
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Actually, if I wanted to, I could sue freedom scientific for several things.
Since I now own the rights to the windows bridge code,
I could sue for all kinds of things they swiped from wb (such as the capslock
key as a modifier) as well as several inovations which were frist
introduced by wb
Hi. Recently I've switched to SAToGo and absolutely love it! Regarding Uno 3.0,
I am not sure if I will even develop anymore for Pocket PC since there is only
PAC Mate Omni that is fully supported. If there are any blind people out there
who use a different Pocket PC then 3.0 may be considered,
I disagree that the no activation for 60 days is a bad thing, it
gives the newby time enough to try wineyes out, it's certainly better
than 40 minutes then reboot, 40 minutes and then reboot etc.
At 05:24 AM 8/08/2010, you wrote:
Nope i totally disagree on that one. The hole no activations for
Do it travis! do it now!
At 11:17 PM 7/08/2010, you wrote:
Actually, if I wanted to, I could sue freedom scientific for several things.
Since I now own the rights to the windows bridge code,
I could sue for all kinds of things they swiped from wb (such as the
capslock key as a modifier) as well
One more for the freedom scifi dirt file I'm building.
At 01:31 AM 8/08/2010, you wrote:
HI,
I must absolutely agree with the message below! That is like totally
criminal. I never liked jaws anyways. It started to become worse and
worse from the first version it was built. It seems like they
Hi Muhammed and all.
I definitely agree with what Clemant said on this, the only thing I would
add is that yes the wii is a lot of fun, however many of the games that we
can play e.g. bowling, baseball, etc. are multiperson games. This is fine
if you consistantly have other people to play with
hi thomas,
Thank you for allowing us to comment.
Freedom scientific has put several of our friends in brazil on courte,
because, guess what? we decided to try and have alteernatives to jaws,
which, is over 4,500 reais (our currency).
We do not believe, as a nation, that we have to stick to jaws
I was going to point that out, but thanks. lol. I hated having to reboot
after 40 minutes... especially when I was in the middling of doing something
or having something download.
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From: Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net
To: Gamers Discussion list
Here are the events scheduled for Sunday, August 8th:
From the Pulpit
11:00 AM eastern
Hosted by Lee
Location: House of Our Lord
Come listen to a live service, which will include, worship, music, preaching,
and special singing.
Yahtzee
3:00 PM eastern
Hosted by Jeannette
Location: Game Zone
If
I was talking about jaws, not window eyes. Window eyes has no activations,
right?
- Original Message -
From: Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports
They seriously did that? This quite honestly does not surprise me. Window
Bridge. Man, I used that with a doubletalk or decktalk synthisizer about 12
years ago.
- Original Message -
From: Travis Siegel tsie...@lothlorien.nfbcal.org
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, August 07,
I wouldn't mind seeing FS get put in there place... I say do it!
- Original Message -
From: Constantine tcwoo...@shaw.ca
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BrailleSoft No Longer Supports Freedom Scientific
as a revolutionary citizen from brasil, I am already supporting your
cause by advertizing this in accessible blogs of our nation.
I have completely stopped supporting FS in anyway, and am looking
forward to working with projects such as NVDA.
My cousin is a student at MIT, and we will look forward
well I don't like the fs tactics.
but here in new zealand its mostly fs.
the braille note is the other thing and if i had not got so far into
windows I think it would be a braille note if I started again and a mac.
At 09:30 p.m. 7/08/2010, you wrote:
First, I so agree. I converted to
I aggree with all of this including their stupid polocies, ie
profesional to run pro systems and extra packages to use remote services etc.
However I doubt I will be changing to anything, I havn't upgraded in
ages, and probably won't for a bit.
but since I am stuck with the software unless I
I think we also need to remember that nvda has an command line dll of espeak.
I am not saying use espeak as some don't like it but if you had a
synth which is internal then fgine I use espeak because its internal
and nothing else.
At 02:25 a.m. 8/08/2010, you wrote:
Hi Charles,
You are
Hello, Aroga seens to sell products across Canada? We recently delbt with
Aroga because I bought talkx for my nokia e71 phone. you could get. Like
Clement, I have converted to Window-Eyes, and I find it a lot more
custonaiseable.
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From: Constantine tcwoo...@shaw.ca
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