just a little above Richmond. I grew up in Florida
precipitation is called normal.
Its the cold white stuff that I don't
like. (that might also be a result of driving a Miata)
That actually sounds like a fun car for the snow...
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On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 08:05, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On 1/6/02 3:54 PM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 07:27, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Shouldn't tomcat and httpd be in the same category?
different
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to guarantee that the compiler won't generate names that conflict
with ones I declare in a page?
As a SWAG, I would think you could parse out the ones you declare, keep a
list, and ensure you don't generate anything that conflicts?
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You left out my 'favorite'
if ( something ) { }
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found.
Are these perceived as problems by others or is it just my
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it really matter whether the code is jakarta-gump or
xml-whatever?
Funny. I've been waiting for it to become a top level project (or at least
an Alexandrai project :)
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Good idea. We were going to do that at one point.
Maybe we'll ask each newsletter contributor to make up a *one* sentence
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On 1/3/02 8:21 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Comments?
Why is it appropriate for Jakarta? That's the missing piece for me. You
said that the Cocoon community is excited about it, it could be important
for data conversion in XML land
clear from the start.
Comments?
Why is it appropriate for Jakarta? That's the missing piece for me. You
said that the Cocoon community is excited about it, it could be important
for data conversion in XML land...
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that dependent jars can be easily downloaded
I think it might be a good idea for JJAR/CJAN to be a subproject of
Alexandria.
I disagree.
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at the simple notion of just having release jars available w/o docs,
source, etc I don't think this is a bad idea :)
However
Any license issues? Wouldn't we want to package the jar w/ a license ?
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Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I agree that it would be nice if the GUMP results were put somewhere
publicly accessible (they may be but I have no idea where). However, the
second step is to automatically fetch the correct dependent jars
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Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Putting aside *all* the stuff we are talking about for a moement, and
looking at the simple notion of just having release jars available w/o docs,
source, etc I don't think this is a bad idea :)
However
On 1/1/02 3:08 PM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: Re: Just the JARs
You don't want to use the results of Gump for JJAR. Gump isn't
On 1/1/02 6:04 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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My rationale was that the goal of GUMP as I understand it now, is to
ensure that all projects play well with each other in term of
compatibility. It seems natural to extend it so that it can also be
asked
... :-)
[snip]
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However, I will continue the riff that released versions are important and
different.
Just curious, why does the December 9th release of jakarta-velocity contain
a milestone version of commons-collections.jar
to it and grok all that
is going on. :)
Also, each group might have something they want to emphasize or advertise...
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You're going to end up getting pissed at your software
anyway, so you might as well
the most perfect tool [2], but it does the job
well, people adopted it quickly and the bitching about Styleweb (the
previous tool) stopped.
thanks!
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Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter
Don't give up too easily :)
I'll help
are atempts to gain
consensus on whether to use tabs or not, and then how many characters an
indent is :-).
No, and 4 :)
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Or some such. ( Give a guy some basic Xpath knowledge...)
We don't need no steenkeeng pasting...
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A shame (Java cross referencing not needed :().
Juliet is commercial, but there will be a
free version.
Thanks for the reply,
carlo
Actually, isn't that one of the goals of Alexandria? Maybe wth your
expertise you might want to help out there? :)
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It appears the Cocoon project uses Stylebook. Jakarta projects use Anakia,
but I have not found any macros in Jakarta-site2 that reference a Change Log
or To Do list.
I predict that they will become sick of working with an XML format :)
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We use XML format via Anakia in velocity-land and don't have any problems...
I don't really mind.
snip
Enlighten me
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. They will just
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, it's going to be a bit of work, although we could try to
recycle the lutris simple beans...
Now, if I could just avoid sleep...
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Take up some moderation works? I'm fed with all mailing lists :)
Pier
Yep - send stuff my way.
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Hi,
When doing site updates, please don't forget to update before starting
editing. For example, Berin reverted many changes to the news and binary
pages.
Shouldn't the cvs commit caught that on the merge?
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The only problem that I see is (iv). Is that it?
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acknowledge it.
Maybe it's time to reorganize the site and see who salutes or flames :)
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to general@. It's 5:50 am,
coffee just finished brewing, and I forgot this was a general@ thread with
replied to list.
Sorry again, all.
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Peter Donald wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:29, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Sam Ruby wrote:
Kevin A. Burton wrote:
- - No more competition from .NET/C#. (why would anyone want to support
an MS proprietary language?)
s/MS proprietary language/draft ECMA standard language/. ECMA
be nice, but that's only a suggestion - I am not a part of
xml.apache community.
If they can't be acommodated in a way that is satisfactory to all, +1
for here in Jakarta.
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that
this list will double in size very shortly.
Thoughts?
Does that belong here in Jakarta or in XML land? Either way, +1 from
me, btw.
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Pier P. Fumagalli wrote:
Sam Ruby at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
+1 for BSF as a Jakarta project.
Ditto.
Doh :) +1
Pier
Re me
+1
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No vote:
Pierpaolo Fumagalli
Ted Husted
Geir Magnusson Jr.
Craig McClanahan
Sam Ruby
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You have a genius for suggesting things I've come
force the issue by making it a part
of being a Jakarta project, I don't think we want to do that.
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still climbing up to the shoulders
Sam Ruby wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
There is nothing (other than the sloth of Daedalus) which prevents us
from adding any 'test' we want - Gump is running the Velocity testbed,
for example, which is more than interface-related, but functional as
well.
That test suite takes
as a set of
guidelines?
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still climbing up to the shoulders
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
Greetings,
Here are some pretty good news:
http://www.javaworld.com/jw-05-2001/jw-0504-finalists.html
Regards, Ceki
Congratulations to log4j and Tomcat 3.2!
If no one has done it yet, I am going to put this up on Jakarta news.
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marketing machine.
Not because it it technically better. But because I for one don't like
rewriting my applications every few months.
The comparison was really about JSP vs. Velocity.
What if you could use Struts/Velocity? :-)
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The Velocity project is pleased to announce the release of Version 1.0
of the Velocity template engine.
Velocity is a powerful template engine written in Java and released as
open-source software under the Apache Software License.
Sun's Dot-Com Builder developer information site just did a
for Java Enterprise Unit testing framework. That's not so bad.
I like this. It keeps the 'Unit' and if you can get away with JE w/o
Sun getting upset...
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and my favorite of all:
UnitTestingSystemForSunOverHypedMarketingBuzzwords
How about .NETUnit ?
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tter basis for deciding where such
a beastie will live as a 'formal' project.
You could also try it under the asupices of Avalon, Turbine, Struts
too...
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for the components might be realized, as I am sure
it will bring howls of derision and scorn regarding central control and
big brother.
However, this is a really good point and a discussion we should have in
Commons-land. Please come and join if interested.
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when both
turbine/avalon already offer a lot of support.
Why wouldn't the import be allowed? That's one of the reasons for
commons : to provide a place to collaborate across projects...
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Conor MacNeill wrote:
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Peter Donald wrote:
Jon Stevens :
For #2: It certainly could start
Peter Donald wrote:
At 11:20 22/3/01 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Why wouldn't the import be allowed? That's one of the reasons for
commons : to provide a place to collaborate across projects...
Go back to the original discussion. Essentially all components should not
rely
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"Michael, Colin" wrote:
Who, exactly, is doing this survey? Does not appear to be from Sun. Is there
a link to this from the Sun website?
Found a link to www.kingbrown.com in their page, who claim to do
'intelligent market research, and claims Sun as a client.
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... sucks being the only Aussie ;)
I thought there were at least several thousand of you there. You
certainly have enough room. I know a few that live in New York if you
are lonely.
:D
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Gunnar R|nning wrote:
"Geir Magnusson Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The thing that started this, about the coding guidelines, was in
response to the addition of the Sun coding guidelines (rules...) - I was
just indicating my preference.
Of course, but it is important
follow-up because a few people gave him a 'what-EVER'...
http://www.salon.com/tech/col/garf/2001/01/18/java_response/index.html
geir
(And if "californian", wouldn't that be 'what-EV- hey? what happened
to the lights? ' )
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- Sam Ruby
The most remarkable thing about this thread is that there appears to be
a consistant and correct spelling of 'WAAAHG'.
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"Craig R. McClanahan" wrote:
"Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote:
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If someone chooses to duplicate a piece of code, maybe the problem is with
the way the code is written and shared.
I think in some cases, its bacause people aren't aware tha
o get them out into
the light of day, documented, and supported directly, not incidentally
as part of larger projects.
I know I am relatively new, and I am not criticizing. I just think
there is a huge opportunity here. :)
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that offer a separate, clean FOO tool that supports BAR.
(Choose your tool and it's expected functionality).
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and placing it where it can be found may help.
That's what I am advocating - Getting this stuff out front and center.
I am not blaming the users. Its our fault if people don't know what the
projects are about and have available.
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Sam Ruby wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Call it 'Rupert'.
Be careful, that name might stick. ;-)
That would be fine - forward progress! I guess the logo would be
next... :)
I mean, with Tomcat 4, nothing really guarantees that you
won't abandon Servlet 2.3 for the Wiggly Green
. ;-)
Ok, based on the response to the poll tallied at
http://husted.com/about/jakarta/library.html
Man, you are *damn* organized :)
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e same problem again?
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Ted Husted wrote:
On 2/9/2001 at 8:12 AM Sam Ruby wrote:
I would suggest that you start with a proposed code base.
Going back over the posts, there seem to be at least five clear areas of
overlap:
* DataSource/Database Pool
+1
* XML Configuration
+1
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