Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-06-06 Thread Ted Husted
FWIW, I'd like to change my vote to +1. The existence of a Apache Commons project devoted to Java doesn't automatically preclude the future existence of an Apache Ruby Commons or Apache .NET Commons. After all, the project names are only labels. Should another application for a TLP Commons be mad

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-26 Thread Phil Steitz
Stephen Colebourne wrote: > This seems a little overplanned in my mind ;) Allow a little more evolution. > > - Commons goes TLP. > - Rules for Commons TLP become clear (one mailing list, one PMC, anyone > commits in any component, anyone votes/reviews any release, comfortable > social group) > -

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-26 Thread Matt Benson
IIRC Torsten had already added himself to the proposal, then after emails in which T. indicated his willingness to act as chair, Henri updated the wiki accordingly. -Matt --- "Daniel F. Savarese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roland > Weber writes: > >Rory Winst

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-26 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roland Weber writes: >Rory Winston - was added by Daniel Savarese >Torsten Curdt - was added as chair by Henri Yandell Rory voted for the proposal so I saved him the time and redundancy when I added myself after voting for the proposal. I assume Henri did the same

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-26 Thread Roland Weber
Ted Husted wrote: > As to the point of active consent, did each and every individual > listed on the proposed resolution either actively consent in an email > message on an ASF list, or add their own name to the list? Based on the Wiki history... http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolutio

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-26 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/23/07, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Committ access and being a PMC memeber are 2 different things - its been mooted that we should carry over the current Jakarta commit list for Commons (which I'm in favour of) - but that would be for the PMC to decide if its formed. Retaining

RE: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-25 Thread Jörg Schaible
Folks, I am on holidays and offline for two weeks, so if anything is decided inbetween, the statement below is my official position. Cheers, Jörg Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Henri, > > Henri Yandell wrote on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:00 AM: > > [snip] > >> If that, or something like it, sounds

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-24 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Henri Yandell wrote: So the question is; is the above direction worth discussing, Not sure about moving to incubator part -- but overall -- yes, IMHO it is worth discussing. Vadim or should we just go with the Commons TLP. Hen --

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-24 Thread Martin van den Bemt
> > Added themselves to the TLP Proposal but didn't vote(?) > > 1. Jochen Wiedmann > 2. Martin van den Bemt(*) > 3. Matt Benson > 4. Rory Winston(*) > 5. Joerg Pietschmann > I voted +1, unless the goal is that commons becomes Jakarta in t

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-24 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 5/23/07, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/23/07, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think there's another issue here. > > Many of those who voted +1, aren't on the initial list of committers > in the proposal. > > Also, many current commons committers aren't on the pro

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-24 Thread Rahul Akolkar
On 5/23/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If that, or something like it, sounds like a good consensus plan, then I'm definitely more in favour of that than Commons going to TLP. There are really only four steps: Step 0: Consensus. Step 1: Move 3 projects to the Incubator. Step 2: Mo

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5/23/07, Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message From: Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Using CLI as an example, I'm not sure that there is a shared sense of > responsibility for it. > > CLI 1.x has had an issue open against it since 2006-03 with only > rece

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Sam Ruby
On 5/23/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Slide. There's some sign of activity here. Not enough yet. * Cactus. Tiny bit of activity, again not enough for a TLP. * JMeter. Lots of commits from Sebb, but not a big community. For all three of these the best solution I can think of i

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Roland Weber
Dion Gillard wrote: > Many of those who voted +1, aren't on the initial list of committers > in the proposal. As has been mentioned, it's an initial list of PMC members. But the votes come from all of Jakarta, not just Commons. Some of them are from Commons people voting to get out of here, other

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Stephen Colebourne
- Original Message From: Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Using CLI as an example, I'm not sure that there is a shared sense of > responsibility for it. > > CLI 1.x has had an issue open against it since 2006-03 with only > recent activity on it, and Henri's comment in that issue from 2

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Dion Gillard
Stephen, I think Sebb does have a valid point. Using CLI as an example, I'm not sure that there is a shared sense of responsibility for it. CLI 1.x has had an issue open against it since 2006-03 with only recent activity on it, and Henri's comment in that issue from 2007-03 ("CLI is still prett

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 5/23/07, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/23/07, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/23/07, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think there's another issue here. > > > > Many of those who voted +1, aren't on the initial list of committers > > in the proposa

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Stephen Colebourne
- Original Message From: sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Do all the Commons sub-projects have sufficient numbers ot committers > to justify them remaining in Commons? For example CLI has not even had > a formal release yet and has been far less active than JMeter, but is > still protected by be

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Dion Gillard
On 5/23/07, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/23/07, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think there's another issue here. > > Many of those who voted +1, aren't on the initial list of committers > in the proposal. > > Also, many current commons committers aren't on the pro

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 5/23/07, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think there's another issue here. Many of those who voted +1, aren't on the initial list of committers in the proposal. Also, many current commons committers aren't on the proposed list. Yup thats disappointing. It seems that we're not

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread sebb
On 23/05/07, Scott Eade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: > * Slide. There's some sign of activity here. Not enough yet. > > * Cactus. Tiny bit of activity, again not enough for a TLP. > > * JMeter. Lots of commits from Sebb, but not a big community. We have invited another person

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Stephen Colebourne
to join if they wish (once the rules and expectations are clear) Simple. And community-up not top-down. Stephen - Original Message From: Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jakarta General List Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 6:00:05 AM Subject: Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP O

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 19:14 +1000, Dion Gillard wrote: > I think there's another issue here. > > Many of those who voted +1, aren't on the initial list of committers > in the proposal. > > Also, many current commons committers aren't on the proposed list. > > It seems that we're not voting on t

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Dion Gillard
I think there's another issue here. Many of those who voted +1, aren't on the initial list of committers in the proposal. Also, many current commons committers aren't on the proposed list. It seems that we're not voting on that specific proposal, rather just the idea to move, and that a lot of

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-23 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
[ ] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [X] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... Sorry for the late vote. I'm opposed to the resolution as I see no benefit for Commons, and I believe the Jakarta "brand" must be preserved. I would support a resolution aiming at restructuring J

RE: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-22 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Henri, Henri Yandell wrote on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:00 AM: [snip] > If that, or something like it, sounds like a good consensus plan, then > I'm definitely more in favour of that than Commons going to TLP. There > are really only four steps: > > Step 0: Consensus. > Step 1: Move 3 project

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-22 Thread Scott Eade
Henri Yandell wrote: * Slide. There's some sign of activity here. Not enough yet. * Cactus. Tiny bit of activity, again not enough for a TLP. * JMeter. Lots of commits from Sebb, but not a big community. For all three of these the best solution I can think of is to move them to the Incubator.

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-22 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5/22/07, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quick summary of this thread 28 Votes for (23 binding), 4 against (3 binding). Seems to me that those objecting don't seem to have pursuaded people to change their vote. At what point do we decide on a result? I think you just did :) Defin

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-22 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution Please add your name if you're a Commons dev

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-15 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5/15/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We can create a "Jakarta Commons PMC" without affecting the future of the "Jakata PMC". We should stop thinking of "Jakarta" only as an entity, and go back to thinking of it as to the ASF synonym for "Java", as originally intended. Very interes

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-15 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/14/07, Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, from a practical matter, our projects already use org.apache.commons, so this is already recognised in the ASF. Verbose package names are a Java notion, and they are only relevant within a Java application. Regardless of whether t

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-15 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/14/07, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From a practical pov isn't java already associated with the word grouping "commons apache"? To Java folks it is. But, XML has a Commons too, as does Web Services. A third group tried to create a top-level Commons last year, and creating Commo

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/15/07, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From a practical pov isn't java already associated with the word grouping "commons apache"? No, that's the point http://commons.apache.org/ Although this commons project was supposed to replace the commons efforts in jakarta.apache and x

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
From a practical pov isn't java already associated with the word grouping "commons apache"? If you need a differentiator I would put it in the commons-net.apache.org or whatever name instead of soiling the existing "branding" that has already been cemented in everyones minds whether people like

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Should it be commons4j.apache.org? (j = java or jakarta)? am not worried about the java package name... thanks, dims On 5/14/07, Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Travelling ATM, limited internet My preference is for a java-only commons.apache.org. I don't see that as scary or

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Jesse Kuhnert
That's the most logical argument I've seen on this thread. :) +1 (probably not binding and not mattering ) On 5/14/07, Stephen Colebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, from a practical matter, our projects already use org.apache.commons, so this is already recognised in the ASF. Steph

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Stephen Colebourne
Travelling ATM, limited internet My preference is for a java-only commons.apache.org. I don't see that as scary or unreasonable. My +1 is based on that assumption. Also, from a practical matter, our projects already use org.apache.commons, so this is already recognised in the ASF. Stephen

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/14/07, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If moving commons TLP is just a "twisted" (maybe a bad choice of a word) way to come back to jakarta.apache.org in the end, I am -1 on the TLP move.. IF, its a big if and one I think we need to devote some though, and a *modest* ;-) am

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Martin van den Bemt
If moving commons TLP is just a "twisted" (maybe a bad choice of a word) way to come back to jakarta.apache.org in the end, I am -1 on the TLP move.. We currently have 2 projects moving TLP (Turbine and POI) and after that we need to start thinking about every other project at Jakarta. So if th

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
-1 to Commons being Jakarta. Commons should be commons, have its own PMC/domain. It already has its own brand recognition. I had an interesting conversation with a large financial customer about it just before I left JBoss. They weren't clearly even aware that commons was part of Jakarta. -

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ ] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... -1 I would like to see the issues raised regarding the name resolved. I would also like to see the options regarding commons as a successor to t

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/14/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As my random suggestion that Ted quoted points out, you can have a PMC without their having to be TLP. Least I was told that a couple of years ago either on board@ or face to face, so we could do the following: * Create the Jakarta Commons PMC

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-13 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5/13/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/13/07, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't see why. As a member of the Jakarta PMC I'm willing to allow > > jakarta-commons.apache.org to use our trademark :-) > > The problem is that you will be hijacking the Jakarta n

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-13 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/10/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * "Multiple PMCs, one website. So we'd have Java Commons, Ruby > Commons, BobsYourUncle Commons PMCs, and they'd all share a > commons.apache.org website." This one was definitely a random suggestion. If we reach a point of impasse with anot

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-13 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/13/07, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't see why. As a member of the Jakarta PMC I'm willing to allow > jakarta-commons.apache.org to use our trademark :-) The problem is that you will be hijacking the Jakarta name and since the future of Jakarta (and usage of the na

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-13 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Simon Kitching wrote: > On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 01:06 +0200, Martin van den Bemt wrote: >>> If the new TLP is java-only it seems very rude to take the name >>> "commons.apache.org" : it's far too generic. Perhaps >>> jakarta-commons.apache.org would be appropriate.. >> Leaving means not using the J

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-13 Thread Simon Kitching
On Sun, 2007-05-13 at 01:06 +0200, Martin van den Bemt wrote: > > > > If the new TLP is java-only it seems very rude to take the name > > "commons.apache.org" : it's far too generic. Perhaps > > jakarta-commons.apache.org would be appropriate.. > > Leaving means not using the Jakarta name anymore

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-12 Thread Martin van den Bemt
> > If the new TLP is java-only it seems very rude to take the name > "commons.apache.org" : it's far too generic. Perhaps > jakarta-commons.apache.org would be appropriate.. Leaving means not using the Jakarta name anymore. Mvgr, Martin -

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-12 Thread Simon Kitching
> http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution > > [ ] +1 I support the proposal > [ ] +0 I don't care > [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... I'm not really convinced that this change will improve anything. In particular I'd be sad to lose the current SVN access system, whe

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-12 Thread Roland Weber
+1 > [ ] +1 I support the proposal > [ ] +0 I don't care > [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OT - Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread David Fisher
Sorry. No. Not on this list. (1) Go to http://tomcat.apache.com look for their email list and ask your question on that list. (2) Please learn to be much more polite, as you have been very rude in your earlier "replies." (3) Questions belong in a new email message and not in a reply. Tha

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread Jean Carlo Salas
did you why Apache Tomcat dosn't run in Vista?? On 5/10/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/10/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [ ] +1 I support the proposal > > [ ] +0 I don't care > > [x] -1 I'm opposed to the p

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5/10/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ ] +1 I support the proposal > [ ] +0 I don't care > [x] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... I do not feel the draft resolution adequately addresses several remarks made in the discuss

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 5/10/07, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ ] +1 I support the proposal > [ ] +0 I don't care > [x] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... I do not feel the draft resolution adequately addresses several remarks made in the discuss

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 5/10/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move > > to TLP. > > +1 (non binding) > > > > >http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution > > > > Plea

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [ ] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [x] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... I do not feel the draft resolution adequately addresses several remarks made in the discussion thread. The resolution should address issues raise

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread Ted Husted
Then why not just strike the word "Java" from the resolution now? -Ted. On 5/9/07, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I think this was discussed before and the consensus was "we will change the charter if a C# project actually shows up". Jakarta is dying because there is not

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread luc . maisonobe
Selon Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > At this time it tends to be common for the new PMC to be formed of the > committers. It can depend, if someone is a new committer then it'll be > weird adding them to the PMC from the get go (least that seems to be > the general opinion). > > I realized

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move > to TLP. +1 (non binding) > >http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution > > Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added > you

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! > > [X ] +1 I support the proposal > [ ] +0 I don't care > [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... Ciao, Mario - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-10 Thread luc . maisonobe
> However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move > to TLP. +1 (non binding) > >http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution > > Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added > your name yet. I think you have already explained that yester

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Jean Carlo Salas
Fuck you guys!!! On 5/9/07, Yegor Kozlov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1 Yegor > Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. > http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution > Please a

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Yegor Kozlov
+1 Yegor > Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. > http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution > Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added > your name

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Scott Eade
+1 Scott Henri Yandell wrote: Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Petar Tahchiev
On 5/10/07, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not a Jakarta commiter, and also vote is not binding, but I want > to ask something. What are the benefits for commons of moving to a You are a Jakarta committer :) Mvgr, Martin -

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Martin van den Bemt
> I am not a Jakarta commiter, and also vote is not binding, but I want > to ask something. What are the benefits for commons of moving to a You are a Jakarta committer :) Mvgr, Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)
Henri Yandell wrote: > Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. > > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move > to TLP. > >http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution > > Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
+1 Oliver 2007/5/8, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution Please add your name if you're a Common

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Hi, I think this was discussed before and the consensus was "we will change the charter if a C# project actually shows up". Jakarta is dying because there is not enough adhesion between the projects. The binding element of the commons TLP is currently "we are developing Java components". If there

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Ted Husted
It would be nice if the proposal allowed for some flexibility as to language. We do have several ASF products written in C#, and the notion of starting a C# commons has come up a couple of times in discussions between open source C# developers. -Ted. On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Thomas Vandahl
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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Henri Yandell
This came up on commons-dev when we were discussing the idea: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-commons-dev/200704.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] My reply was: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-commons-dev/200704.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] The hard part, as you pointed out,

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 On 5/8/07, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1 Niall On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. > > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. > > http://wiki.apache.or

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Don't know about POI, Turbine is fine, Scott used the right template. Best regards Henning Henri Yandell schrieb: > On 5/9/07, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > [X] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... >> >> diffing the Wiki text against the tem

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5/9/07, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [X] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... diffing the Wiki text against the template in SVN (https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/subproject-tlp-resolution.txt) shows significant differences. I'd like

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Nick Burch
On Tue, 8 May 2007, Henri Yandell wrote: However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. +1 Nick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
> [X] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... diffing the Wiki text against the template in SVN (https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/templates/subproject-tlp-resolution.txt) shows significant differences. I'd like you to update the proposal accordingly. As this proposal will n

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-09 Thread Jean-Frederic
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 10:20 -0700, Henri Yandell wrote: > Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. > > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. > > http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution > > Please add your name if you'

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Petar Tahchiev
On 5/9/07, Jörg Schaible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1 Henri Yandell wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:20 PM: > Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. > > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that > it move to TLP. > > http://wiki.apache.org/jakar

RE: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Jörg Schaible
+1 Henri Yandell wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:20 PM: > Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. > > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that > it move to TLP. > > http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution > > Please add your name if

RE: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Phil Steitz
+1 Phil Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added your name yet. [

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Jean Carlo Salas
Leave me out of this sheet On 5/8/07, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 8 May 2007, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. > > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it > move to TLP.

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 8 May 2007, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. > > However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it > move to TLP. > >http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution +1 Stefan -

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Niall Pemberton
+1 Niall On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution Please add your name if you're a

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Mark Thomas
Henri Yandell wrote: > [X] +1 I support the proposal > [ ] +0 I don't care > [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Martin Cooper
On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [X] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... -- Martin Cooper

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Stephen Colebourne
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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Oliver Heger
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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Torsten Curdt
+1 On 08.05.2007, at 19:20, Henri Yandell wrote: Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution Please add your name if you're a Commons de

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Mladen Turk
Henri Yandell wrote: [X] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... Regards, Mladen. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Dennis Lundberg
+1 Henri Yandell wrote: Sadly a bit too late to make the next board meeting I suspect. However, here's a vote for Commons to officially request that it move to TLP. http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/TLPResolution Please add your name if you're a Commons developer and haven't added y