Re: Wiki, newsletters, PMC-chair

2004-06-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 27 Jun 2004, at 21:35, Henri Yandell wrote: As the wiki-update emails don't seem to get through to this list, thought I'd let people know I've done a bit of reorganization of the Jakarta Wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/ I've also added a bunch of ideas and thoughts. IMHO this is som

Re: [site] .htaccess file has been modified outside cvs

2004-06-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
they look right to me. someone's added a redirect for pluto to portals TLP: Redirect Permanent /pluto http://portals.apache.org/pluto so i've committed them into CVS and replaced the local copy. - robert On 27 Jun 2004, at 17:18, Noel J. Bergman wrote: the .htaccess file for the jakarta site has

[site] .htaccess file has been modified outside cvs

2004-06-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
the .htaccess file for the jakarta site has been modified directly but is maintained in CVS. unless anyone knows a good reason not to, i'll update the copy in CVS with the changes. - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTE

Fwd: Call for Participation for ApacheCon US 2004

2004-06-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
Begin forwarded message: From: Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 24 June 2004 13:48:10 BST To: Apache Committers Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ApacheCon discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ApacheCon announcements <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Apache httpd users list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subje

Re: jk2 changes

2004-06-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi andy i think that jk2 is developed by the tomcat community. you'll probably get a better answer faster by asking on one of the tomcat lists. read http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html for more information. - robert On 22 Jun 2004, at 11:35, Andy Armstrong wrote: I'm just making sure the L

Re: Apache Tomcat 5.0.x

2004-06-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 22 Jun 2004, at 08:51, Emulsify Adren wrote: Hi, i'm interested to know whether i need to pay to run Apache Tomcat 5.0.x and where can i get a copy of it. hope to hear from you soon. thanks in advance. apache tomcat (together with all the other ASF - http://www.apache.org - releases) is open

Re: [PROPOSAL][site] create separate page for commons downloads

2004-06-20 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 20 Jun 2004, at 22:45, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Stephen Colebourne wrote: PROPOSAL i'd like to shift all jakarta commons component downloads onto separate pages which are linked from the main ones. i think that this will prolong the useful life of the original page wit

[PROPOSAL][site] create separate page for commons downloads

2004-06-20 Thread robert burrell donkin
BACKGROUND -- the common release download pages for jakarta products currently list as many of these as possible. by it's nature, the number of jakarta-commons components has risen over time and will most likely continue to rise in the future. at the moment, the download pages are hard

Re: Maven Repository Status

2004-04-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi howard (i'm assuming that this is about getting new jars into the java repository so they can be accessed b maven.) AIUI the process is still being developed so documentation is patchy at best. i'd suggest subscribing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and asking what to do there. - robert On 24 Apr 20

Re: [site] thinking about adding a couple of links from resources

2004-04-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
--Original Message----- From: robert burrell donkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 2:03 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: [site] thinking about adding a couple of links from resources in the light of the recent debate over on licensing about the inability for java fol

[site] thinking about adding a couple of links from resources

2004-04-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
in the light of the recent debate over on licensing about the inability for java folks to take their jakarta fix in the usual packaged/ported *nix fashion, i thought i might add links to a couple of well-known downstream distributors of packages and ports to the resources (unofficial) section:

Re: Struts mailing lists

2004-04-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:44, Shapira, Yoav wrote: Hi, I assume the website is about to be updated with this information? I tried to email [EMAIL PROTECTED], but typically, heh, the recipients mail server was down or unreachable ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Send a note to the struts-dev list, they're respons

Re: [site] Sister Resources

2004-03-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 19 Mar 2004, at 08:50, Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11 Mar 2004, at 12:47, Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:32:31 +0100 Stefan Bodewig wrot

Re: [site] Sister Resources

2004-03-16 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 11 Mar 2004, at 12:47, Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:32:31 +0100 Stefan Bodewig wrote: Depends on what you consider a sister resource. At least, I guess robert is considering planetapache would be one of them :) --

[site] Translated (Web) -> Unofficial Resources...?

2004-03-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
at the moment, we have a section on the jakarta navigation bar that's titled 'Translated (Web)'. i've been wondering whether it might be better to rename this to something like 'Community Resources (Unofficial)'. this would make it clear that (though we're very grateful for these sites), they a

Re: news symlinks

2004-03-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Mar 2004, at 12:15, Marcus Sundman wrote: maybe it'd be cool to have a complete latest-first index of all news stories in the news index page. that way, not only would it be a useful resource but also it'd be a fixed page for people to book mark. Yes. (Well, it would be "cool" in the sense

Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3 Mar 2004, at 22:28, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: Quoting Christopher Lenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: You're not saying that the boilerplate text should appear as comment in every generated HTML document, are you? Yes, I am. For the same reason that it's in every Java file. +1 (it probably needs t

Re: news reorganization

2004-03-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 25 Feb 2004, at 13:33, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Feb 24, 2004, at 5:08 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: i've just committed the reorganization i proposed last week. i've moved all the news documents into the news subdirectory and all now have date-related names (so no renaming

Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2 Mar 2004, at 20:21, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 20:08:42 + robert burrell donkin wrote: the .vsl template should definitely be altered to include the boilerplate (as a comment) but i think that it'd be good to think about including a meta and/or link tags as we

Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2 Mar 2004, at 02:06, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: Quoting Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:24:02 + robert burrell donkin wrote: i've had a quick google and i'm not sure that there's a consensus out there on this. i like the idea of modifying

Re: questions license for site documents

2004-03-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
i've had a quick google and i'm not sure that there's a consensus out there on this. i like the idea of modifying the .vsl file and i'd be inclined to add both formulations. maybe this would be a good question to raise on community... - robert On 1 Mar 2004, at 17:25, Christopher Lenz wrote:

Re: news symlinks

2004-03-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Mar 2004, at 12:15, Marcus Sundman wrote: I think the best solution would be to have one page with news old, and then have a completely separate news archive where news are categorized by month/year/whatever. The former could have news from both Jakarta and elsewhere on the same page, preven

licensing javadocs...?

2004-02-29 Thread robert burrell donkin
it seems to me that the javadocs are distributed just like everything else in the release. so, it seems to me that we need to alter our builds so that the apache license 2 is included. we could do this by setting the license as a header or footer (or something) in the javadoc build. anyone hav

questions license for site documents

2004-02-29 Thread robert burrell donkin
the generated html does not contain an explicit license just a copyright. am i right in thinking that now it would be better to publish them under the apache license 2? also, am i right in thinking that all the source documentation should have license notices added? - robert -

Re: Apache Gump and Apache Portals

2004-02-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 27 Feb 2004, at 07:49, Stefan Bodewig wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: do the gump team plan to continue to use the jakarta announcement mailing list or will they be creating a new list? We'll have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] that takes over

Re: news symlinks

2004-02-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 27 Feb 2004, at 12:19, Marcus Sundman wrote: Would it be possible to have symlinks like http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/news-latest.html http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/elsewhere-latest.html that would point to the latest news? we'd then risk people losing long term urls. probably getti

Re: news reorganization

2004-02-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 25 Feb 2004, at 13:33, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Feb 24, 2004, at 5:08 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: i've just committed the reorganization i proposed last week. i've moved all the news documents into the news subdirectory and all now have date-related names (so no renaming

Re: news symlinks

2004-02-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
we'd then risk people losing long term urls. probably getting apache to do temporary redirects from those urls would be ok, though. of course, i'd be interested to know what other people think on this before actually doing anything about it... - robert On 26 Feb 2004, at 12:56, Marcus Sundman

Re: news symlinks

2004-02-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 26 Feb 2004, at 19:42, Noel J. Bergman wrote: probably getting apache to do temporary redirects from those urls You do know that /www/jakarta.apache.org/.htaccess is in CVS, right? i do now :) thanks - robert - To unsubscrib

Re: Apache Gump and Apache Portals

2004-02-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
do the gump team plan to continue to use the jakarta announcement mailing list or will they be creating a new list? - robert On 26 Feb 2004, at 22:30, Adam R. B. Jack wrote: Tetsuya Kitahata" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - The Apache Gump Project will now oversee the development and mainte

news reorganization

2004-02-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
i've just committed the reorganization i proposed last week. i've moved all the news documents into the news subdirectory and all now have date-related names (so no renaming should be necessary and therefore the urls will be permanent). the html versions of the old pages now redirect to the new

Re: chairmen..

2004-02-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 24 Feb 2004, at 16:06, Tom Copeland wrote: On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 17:28, Danny Angus wrote: If its not too patronising of me I'd like to propose vote of thanks to Sam as outgoing chair, +n, where n >= 1 +n! (that's a factorial sign rather than an exclamation mark ;) - robert

[website][PROPOSAL] (small) reorganization of news

2004-02-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
i've now discovered that news from jakarta is being disseminated to a wider audience. this is a good thing but a bit unexpected (at least to me). this raises the issue that we do not - at the moment - have permanent urls for our news stories. they go into news.xml which is then archived. this m

Re: possible online documentation error in org.apache.commons.collections.functors Class OrPredicate page

2004-02-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 13 Feb 2004, at 06:05, RK wrote: Iam new in writing apache modules, can anybody tell me where can i get the documentation regarding development of Apache modules in C++ this list is general at the jakarta project (within apache). you're asking for information about the httpd project. for help

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 13 Dec 2003, at 22:22, Martin Poeschl wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 12 Dec 2003, at 09:28, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 21:07, robert burrell donkin wrote: hi henning you don't need to be a committer to act as a mentor. from what i've heard, i&

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12 Dec 2003, at 09:28, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 21:07, robert burrell donkin wrote: hi henning you don't need to be a committer to act as a mentor. from what i've heard, i'd say that you'd be an ideal candidate :) Hi, thanks. :-) I'm wi

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-11 Thread robert burrell donkin
ot;release management experience". ;-) Regards Henning On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 13:13, robert burrell donkin wrote: in this case, i'd say we'll need sufficient volunteers from the jakarta pmc to ensure oversight during this period. it'd probably be good if

Re: jakarta-future Was: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 8 Dec 2003, at 04:20, Phil Steitz wrote: Then maybe instead of breaking it on code-base, we could break it on concept: jakarta-bugs jakarta-announce jakarta-dev jakarta-pmc jakarta-ideas jakarta-site or something. I'm assuming it'll be too noisy, but it is a logical question to ask based on C

Re: jakarta-future Was: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 8 Dec 2003, at 21:07, Costin Manolache wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Costin Manolache wrote: Or even better - since jakarta has a single PMC, it could also have a single list of committers ( most of them in the single PMC ). Each PMC member can vote about any jakarta issue -

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
I'd propose that we move JCS in this direction, if the JCS developers push for a 1.0 release inside turbine-jcs and we make the transition into a Jakarta project with this 1.0 release (which would IMHO a fine reason to do so). Regards Henning On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 17:

Re: jakarta-future Was: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 8 Dec 2003, at 11:10, Christopher Lenz wrote: Am 08.12.2003 um 09:03 schrieb Stefan Bodewig: Can anybody with a better memory for commons than I have recap why the httpclient traffic list has been split off? Did the httpclient developers want a list of their own or have the developers for the

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4 Dec 2003, at 22:35, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: From a Jakarta PMC perspective, I think that we should cease to support Sub-sub-projects with the exception of commons.* i think that it depends on what's meant by sub-sub-projects :) i'm happy for a single sub-project to create many different pr

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5 Dec 2003, at 09:10, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 20:43, Daniel Rall wrote: Given Robert's description of his experience with the Incubator, I'm for the Jakarta Commons to gather some community (direct drop rather than sandbox route), with the goal of an eventual prom

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-04 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4 Dec 2003, at 08:17, Daniel Rall wrote: Martin Cooper wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: [I like "Turbineers". :-) ] > I am one of them, and I did some discussion about JCS @ ApacheCon with Martin Poeschl (who seems to do the odd fix to JCS because he uses it in Torque)

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-04 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4 Dec 2003, at 19:28, Henri Yandell wrote: On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, robert burrell donkin wrote: (i'm a little inclined towards db but) i'd support a proposal from the JCS team for a future in either db or jakarta (along the lines outlined above). guys - have you come to any opinions ab

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-04 Thread robert burrell donkin
IMHO the incubator is having some political difficulties at the moment and (from my experience of projects being incubated) it doesn't really help with gathering more developers. having read the thread so far, here's my feelings: 1. i feel strongly that JCS should not continue as a turbine sub

some reading for those considering their pmc nominations

2003-12-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
some bedtime reading for those people considering (or soon to be considering) whether to accept pmc membership: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg? [EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgNo=2642 we really need a much bigger pmc. please say yes :) - robert --

[POLL] pmc alumni

2003-12-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
the problem --- 1. it's hard to keep track of which illustrious former pmc member's have not been nominated and which no longer feel they are not able to serve on the pmc. proposal create a new class of jakartaens: pmc alumni consisting of senior jakarta figures (typically ex-p

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Dec 2003, at 12:51, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: [I like "Turbineers". :-) ] or turbinauts as in 'jason and the turbinauts' ;) If JCS really catches on, we can still move it back to Jakarta as "Jakarta JCS". if JCS really catches on, they might demand a top level ASF project. who knows! -

Re: jcs

2003-12-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Dec 2003, at 09:57, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: I agree to Henri JCS could need more publicity! luckily enough it's apache newsletter time! i know from personal experience that writing up something for the newsletter really does generate interest. JCS sounds like something that people would b

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-12-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1 Dec 2003, at 05:11, Scott Eade wrote: Without knowing too much, should perhaps "JCS to db top level" and "JCS to db commons" also be considered options? definitely :) Of the available options below I have selected jakarta commons more by excluding the other options than because of some p

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-11-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 30 Nov 2003, at 20:41, robert burrell donkin wrote: sorry, missed one and probably [ ] leave JCS within turbine [ ] JCS to apache commons [ ] JCS to jakarta commons [ ] JCS to jakarta top level [ ] JCS to incubator [ ] something else (please specify)... ps before i get flamed (once again

[POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

2003-11-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
(we've done some talking on the pmc list and turbineers have discussed this in the past but since it's not really confidential i'm starting this thread to give everyone a chance to participate.) some information about Turbine-JCS: * JCS has no release * other apache products depend on JCS * JCS

Re: [website][patch] Add instructions for setting up mail to newbie.xml

2003-11-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi phil IIRC infrastructure is the right place to submit patches for the main site. - robert On 23 Nov 2003, at 00:01, Phil Steitz wrote: Martin Cooper wrote: Isn't this something that should go somewhere off of here: http://www.apache.org/dev/ rather than under Jakarta? I thought about adding

Re: [website][patch] Add instructions for setting up mail to newbie.xml

2003-11-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
(i know that people have different opinions about decanting content from jakarta upwards but i'm not sure anyone feels strongly enough to force votes but) when people are moving material from the jakarta site to the main ASF site could they please ensure that they include an URL to the newer m

[NOTICE] to all jakarta committers

2003-11-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
will all jakarta committers please ensure that there apache.org email account is set up so that it forwards mail to an account that they read. this is very easy to configure - just log on to cvs.apache.org using ssh and then edit the .forward file. (one way to do this is to use vi. type > vi

Re: BSD style code and licensing issues

2003-11-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9 Nov 2003, at 22:01, Mark R. Diggory wrote: Mostly, I'm trying to ascertain the best strategies for donations that will be arising in the near future from projects that are now relicensed using a BSD style license (portions of Colt and RngPack). I am working through details with these indiv

Re: BSD style code and licensing issues

2003-11-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi mark IMHO there are two different issues here. 1. what's the right thing to do legally... i don't recall any problems with including BSD licensed source (providing that the license is followed which probably means adding the appropriate credits) but the right place to ask this question is

Re: Problems with cvs checkout -r TAG

2003-10-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi todd it's hard to diagnose this kind of thing without more details (it's possible that your connection or the server was slow when you tried to connect) but here's something you might try: first checkout the module and then update to the particular version you require. - robert On Thursday

Re: Patch for jakarta-site2/.../whoweare.xml

2003-10-11 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Saturday, October 4, 2003, at 05:05 PM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:27:50 -0400 otisg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you for the promptness! Okeydoke. By the way, would it be possible for you to update "committers" module: /board/committie-info.txt ?? (You have a sufficient

Re: Patch for jakarta-site2/.../whoweare.xml

2003-10-11 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi otis IIRC the current policy is that any jakarta committer who wants access to the site module will be granted it on request. i'd like to encourage people to take an active interest in maintaining and improving the site so i'd hope that you'll ask for jakarta-site karma. since you're a pmc m

Re: Publicizing ApacheCon 2003

2003-09-04 Thread robert burrell donkin
ken i don't suppose that you've got a few word-of-wisdom about ApacheCon that you'd like to contribute (so they can be put in the news section and posted to announcement) have you? - robert On Thursday, September 4, 2003, at 09:05 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Brian McCallister wrote: Act

Re: Publicizing ApacheCon 2003

2003-09-04 Thread robert burrell donkin
i like the logo. (unless someone beats me to it) i'll add a news item as well. if someone could let us know when sessions are available, then we can change to a logo with 'sessions-now-available' byline and probably post something to announcements as well. (it'd be cool if someone involved wit

changes to download page

2003-09-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
i've just committed some pretty significant changes to the download pages on the jakarta website. as some of you will already be aware, the ASF has to pay for bandwidth and this means that it's very important to move from the old system of release directories to the new mirrored ones. from the

move user lists to mail.html from mail2.html? [WAS Re: mail2.html -> mail.html]

2003-07-29 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003, at 02:15 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Thank you for the comment, Robert. TO tell the truth, my original motivation to arise this issue was concering to the upcoming newsletter. I published the final "Jakarta Newsletter" in early this month and I found I made some mista

Re: mail2.html -> mail.html

2003-07-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
jakarta came round to having two pages for mail subscriptions after having years of regular problems with people joining the lists who had no idea about how to behave. the pages are user unfriendly but the old solution (ie publically and vocally humiliating posters on list) was worse (since it

Re: [i18n] Internationalization project

2003-07-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
ion subproject sponsor? Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:32:36 +0100 From: robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 01:14 PM, Robert Simpson wr

Re: [i18n] Internationalization subproject sponsor?

2003-07-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 01:14 PM, Robert Simpson wrote: I am surprised there isn't more interest in a common internationalization framework within Jakarta. But then I have been assuming that there are non-English-speaking "members" in Jakarta, not just "committers" and other users of the

Re: XML Beans advertised on Jakarta ... Re: Vote for XMLBeans proposal

2003-07-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: On 7/7/03 2:09 PM, "robert burrell donkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: XMLBeans feels (to me) like a jakarta component but if xml are happy to manage it, i'd say that it'd probably work out easier that way

Re: The vendors page

2003-07-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
FWIW i think that the original arguments which lead to the creation of the vendors page are still relevant. it's very hard for any folks here to judge the merit (or otherwise) of companies providing support. on the other hand, there was a definite demand from users and vendors for a dating serv

Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9

2003-07-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsl

Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9

2003-06-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
--- On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:28:59 +0100 (Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki.

Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9

2003-06-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
n, 23 Jun 2003, Mark Womack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is there a target date for completion? -Mark - Original Message - From: "robert burrell donkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:28 AM Subje

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Commons EL 1.0 Released

2003-06-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
AFAIK (hopefully someone will correct me if i'm wrong) EL is an implementation of a standard (JSP2.0 expression language) whereas JEXL is an extended version of the language with velocity-inspired features. - robert On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 11:58 AM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Someone cares to

Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9

2003-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be willing

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tetsuya committer at large: Jakarta

2003-06-04 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Monday, June 2, 2003, at 10:14 AM, Danny Angus wrote: Andy proposed: I would like to nominate Tetsuya Kitahata to be a Jakarta committer with rights to jakarta-general. Given that Tetsuya is doing so much to publicise Jakarta in the "Far East" and has been maintaining Japanese translations of

Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects (was Re: [PATCH] Re: Jakarta Newsletter ...)

2003-06-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
i quite like the idea of adding a table giving introductions for related projects but i know some other people think that the welcome page is too big already. opinions, anybody? - robert On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Hi, Robert and all. applied. many thanks

Re: Jakarta-site access & PMC membership for howard lewis ship

2003-05-31 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 11:14 PM, Danny Angus wrote: Andy wrote: I'd like to propose that Howard Lewis Ship be given jakarta-site access and I hereby nominate him for the Jakarta PMC. +1 to both. +1 to both - robert - To un

Re: [PATCH] typo at site/news.xml

2003-05-29 Thread robert burrell donkin
committed. many thanks. - robert On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 03:20 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Hi, I noticed that there's typo (webbaster -> webmaster) at xdocs/site/news.xml and created a patch (zipped). Please apply this. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Re: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
i think that licensing would be the right list to ask on. i believe that XDoclet would now have to be incubated (rather than going straight into jakarta). i think that one of the functions of the incubation process would be to give definite answers on these kinds of questions. - robert On Wed

Re: [PATCH] promoted sub-projects

2003-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
maybe we could change 'SubProjects' (which is more to do with internal organization at apache) to something more positive like 'Jakarta Is'. that would make it easier for projects who want to retain an association with jakarta to keep their listing. - robert On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, at 01

Re: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released

2003-03-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
this page contains more detailed advice about setting up the mirroring: http://cvs.apache.org/~bodewig/mirror.html - robert On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 03:59 AM, Kurt Schrader wrote: Google says: http://www.apache.org/dev/mirrors.html -Kurt On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Than

Re: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released

2003-03-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
IMHO it's quite a bit more involved that preparing a old-style release. i'm currently preparing a revised release procedure document for commons. this will contain detailed instructions on how i mirrored the recent releases i cut. - robert On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 02:38 AM, Andrew C. Ol

Re: Vendor Listing

2003-02-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
please submit a patch for the vendor page :) - robert On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 08:24 PM, Gary Gwin wrote: Friends, We would like to be considered for a complete solution provider listing: company name/website: Cafésoft http://www.cafesoft.com/services/projects.h

Re: Karma request jakarta-site2

2003-02-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 07:33 PM, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: I'd like to join the bandwagon. I would like karma and permission to advertise major Tapestry releases on the Jakarta main page. it's not within my power to grant you karma but if you do add a news item about tapestry to th

Re: [RESULT][PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 09:13 AM, Henri Gomez wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: the following committers have passed the PMC nomination vote proposed by sam ruby: - Danny Angus - Peter Carlson - Morgan Delagrange - Ceki Gülcü - Dmitri Plotnikov - Phillip Rhodes - James

[RESULT][PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-20 Thread robert burrell donkin
the following committers have passed the PMC nomination vote proposed by sam ruby: - Danny Angus - Peter Carlson - Morgan Delagrange - Ceki Gülcü - Dmitri Plotnikov - Phillip Rhodes - James Strachan - Jason van Zyl - Ted Husted - Rod Waldhoff i'm sending this to let you all k

Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
does anyone know the apache login name for: - Phillip Rhodes ? - robert On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 10:41 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: Just a view against the 'jump right in and nominate a person at a time' idea. +1 FYI: My preference is for monthly batches. My aim

Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 10:25 PM, Ceki Gülcü wrote: Hi Robert, I think Mark's nomination follows the sprit set by Sam's initial note. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-general&m=104275438831116&w=2 As such, I don't see a need for a separate vote. my reasoning was purely prag

Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi ceki wouldn't it be less confusing to have a separate vote for mark? while i'm thinking about it, is general or pmc the right place for votes of this kind? - robert On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 09:15 PM, Ceki Gülcü wrote: At 19:26 13.02.2003 -0500, you wrote: Charles Burdick wrote:

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 11:42 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Yesterday I received the Jakarta Monthly Newsletter. Interesting as always, until I got to the section on PMC nominations. There, I suddenly found my name listed as elected to the Jakarta PMC. This came as a complete surprise

Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 12:26 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: Charles Burdick wrote: Selection criteria aside, I nominate Morgan for the PMC. Now that I think of it, let me just skim through the Jakarta-Announcements archive from various points last year. - Danny Angus - Peter Carlson - Morgan D

Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - August 2002

2003-02-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
(here's some bits and pieces from the commons.) Jakarta Commons === The major subject for debate this month was the organization of the mailing lists (again): http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-dev&m=104376872026090&w=2 Jexl Jexl was promoted from the Sandbox to

Re: New Jakarta proposal: Pluto

2003-01-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 03:51 PM, Costin Manolache wrote: I would preffer that all portlet-related technology would be in the same project and community, with JSP/struts/cocoon specific areas. Maybe an "commons"-like project. +1 (providing that andrew's reservations about pluto are

Re: what's the right way to deal with unlicensed code in sandbox?

2002-10-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
i suppose that really this should be a matter for the jakarta pmc. i have a feeling that the apache members are very strong about the contents of public cvs since it exposes them to (possible criminal) liability. how far should things be allowed to go in the sandbox? - robert On Thursday, Octo

Re: Hi I am a new Joinee.

2002-06-11 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi Rajan (if you haven't found it already) you might like to read http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html and http://jakarta.apache.org/site/guidelines.html to give you an idea of the way that jakarta works. i'd say that the best way to start to contribute to the jakarta community i

Re: [PATCH] Added new turbine mailing lists to site

2002-06-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 11:02 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: > On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 17:59, robert burrell donkin wrote: >> the existing list of mailing lists doesn't include some of the newer >> turbine lists. >> >> this patch for jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/ma

[PATCH] Added new turbine mailing lists to site

2002-06-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
the existing list of mailing lists doesn't include some of the newer turbine lists. this patch for jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/mail2.xml adds them. - robert Index: xdocs/site/mail2.xml === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/si

Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002

2002-06-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wednesday, June 5, 2002, at 04:31 PM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Rob Oxspring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So is it worth bothering with each month? Feedback wanted! :) > > Great job! +1 thanks for persevering! > I second Pier's suggestion to peer-review here and send t

Re: summary: [New Subproject Proposal] ObjectBridge

2002-05-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
(sorry i wanted to delete this rather than send it) - robert On Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 10:18 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: > On Thursday, May 2, 2002, at 09:53 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > snip> > >> I'm +1, but I really want to discuss Costin's ide

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