Re: Image problem on tomcat

2007-06-28 Thread Danny Angus
This is not the right place to get help, try the tomcat users list. http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html P.S. you probably need to add the extension and the mime type to a configuration file. d. Zilberstein Yuval [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/06/2007 16:22:02: Hello all, I have an image

Re: Jakarta site directory no longer contains .svn directories

2007-06-08 Thread Danny Angus
On 6/7/07, Thomas Vandahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danny Angus wrote: Yes.. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jakarta-site2.html I've never seen this before. What link would have taken me there? From jakarta.apache.org, I mean? Oh I don't know the answer to *that* question! I just knew the page

Re: Jakarta site directory no longer contains .svn directories

2007-06-07 Thread Danny Angus
On 6/7/07, Thomas Vandahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this procedure ... documented somewhere? Yes.. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jakarta-site2.html d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [PROPOSAL] The future of Jakarta

2007-05-22 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/22/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty simple to solve this though (even though repeating myself here) : Let (a flattened) commons become Jakarta.. I thought that that idea was unpopular with some commons commiters on this PMC? d.

Re: [PROPOSAL] The future of Jakarta

2007-05-21 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/21/07, J Aaron Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread has been more quiet than I expected. I thought so too. There are two points which I'd like to make from the things that have been said so far, 1/ From Ted H. Whenever we foster healthy communities that create great software, we

Re: [PROPOSAL] The future of Jakarta

2007-05-21 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/21/07, J Aaron Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread has been more quiet than I expected. Actually, thinking about it, perhaps that's because we all think we know where this is inevitably going and we're just waiting for it all to settle out. d.

Re: [PROPOSAL] The future of Jakarta

2007-05-21 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/21/07, Jörg Schaible [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1/ Open-up Jakarta to all committers, was vetoed 2/ Merge commons into Jakarta, was vetoed 3/ Move commons into own TLP, was vetoed So what's left in your opinion? Work with the people who cast the deadlocking vetoes to resolve their issues

Re: [PROPOSAL] The future of Jakarta

2007-05-21 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/21/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone wants to turn Jakarta into a Java portal, then turn Jakarta into a Java portal. Some of the codebases may still be under the Jakarta PMC umbrella, but would have little effect on using the Jakarta site as a portal to the ASF's Java

Re: [PROPOSAL] The future of Jakarta

2007-05-21 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/21/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/21/07, Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Ownership is perhaps the wrong word, if Jakarta is being disbanded who provides the oversight? The same people who provide oversight for any ASF project: The people doing the work. If anyone

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-15 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/15/07, Jesse Kuhnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a practical pov isn't java already associated with the word grouping commons apache? No, that's the point http://commons.apache.org/ Although this commons project was supposed to replace the commons efforts in jakarta.apache and

[PROPOSAL] The future of Jakarta

2007-05-15 Thread Danny Angus
Hi, Ok, I've followed the commons TLP vote thread with some interest because it seems to impact directly on the end-game for Jakarta. I believe that we have to make some pretty fundamental decisions about that future before we can fully resolve the commons TLP issues. 0/ Do we agree that the

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/14/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As my random suggestion that Ted quoted points out, you can have a PMC without their having to be TLP. Least I was told that a couple of years ago either on board@ or face to face, so we could do the following: * Create the Jakarta Commons PMC,

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/8/07, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... -1 I would like to see the issues raised regarding the name resolved. I would also like to see the options regarding commons as a successor to

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
On 5/14/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If moving commons TLP is just a twisted (maybe a bad choice of a word) way to come back to jakarta.apache.org in the end, I am -1 on the TLP move.. IF, its a big if and one I think we need to devote some though, and a *modest* ;-)

Re: Looking for an incubation champion

2007-03-08 Thread Danny Angus
Oliver Zeigermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/03/2007 21:31:17: Not if the code is developed outside the ASF (as seems the case here). Hmm, is that so? Looking at the charter http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/charter.html I could not find something like that. It is possbible to

Re: News feed,

2007-03-05 Thread Danny Angus
Thanks Henning, I will do. Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/03/2007 12:04:53: As you seem to be building your site with maven: If you use maven 2, I'd like to invite you to check out http://velocity.apache.org/site/tools/velocity-site-news/index.html

News feed,

2007-02-07 Thread Danny Angus
I see jakarta has a news feed, I'd like to nick the idea for James. How did you do that? d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Jakarta Voting

2006-12-22 Thread Danny Angus
As we get more and more into auth, it becomes tempting to auth the whole thing. Vote through the webapp and not an email, You could sign your mail with a key you register for the purpose. listens to emails and a script that sends out emails in a particular format. Might work, but parsing

Re: Jakarta Voting

2006-12-22 Thread Danny Angus
Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 22/12/2006 09:21:51: Hi Danny, As we get more and more into auth, it becomes tempting to auth the whole thing. Vote through the webapp and not an email, You could sign your mail with a key you register for the purpose. that's a big hurdle

Re: POI TLP -- constructively

2006-12-19 Thread Danny Angus
+1 to this thread (the Jakarta parts - not the let's all talk about our kids, but if anyone wants to I'm as talkative as any other father :) ). +1 to making progress -1 to re-running the old bile. My kids both got hamsters yesterday (early for christmas), boy was that ever exciting! :-) d.

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-18 Thread Danny Angus
I'm +0 for opening. I'm enthusiastic on pushing POI out of Jakarta to remove this restriction. While I agree that POI fits Jakarta theme-wise, this access restriction thing feels too much like a wart. Same here, as no-one has ack#ed my resignation I'm going to vote +0 for this. I think that

Re: [site] proposed changes

2006-12-12 Thread Danny Angus
On 12/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5. Translation sites. They can't keep up, time to go I think. -1 I think this is an interesting one, perhaps we should think about setting standards for translation sites which might let us feel more comfortable linking to. along the

Re: [site] proposed changes

2006-12-04 Thread Danny Angus
2. Vendor support. This is getting increasingly threadbare - so raising the removal of this again. Content to be moved to the Wiki. Why not just move all of the content of all of these pages to the wiki and change the links. Or better still have a section of wiki links in the right hand nav

Re: Opening up the PMC

2006-08-14 Thread Danny Angus
1) Every existing committer not on the pmc receives an email asking if they would like to join the pmc. Once that email is sent they are marked in a file as having had the email sent and we can wash our hands until a reply comes in. I know that this is something that we had as the end-game

Re: site change checked in, can't do svn up

2006-08-04 Thread Danny Angus
Idiot patepstry WTF!? Tapestry obviously. /Idiot :-D :-D d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient

Re: site change checked in, can't do svn up

2006-08-04 Thread Danny Angus
thx Martin. (I can't ssh anywhere from behind work firewall.) On 04/08/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to do that on people.apache.org in the /www/jakarta.apache.org/site directory... I done the update for you already :)

Re: adding a link from commons.apache.org to Jakarta Commons?

2006-03-24 Thread Danny Angus
- robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 23/03/2006 20:30:12: i think that we need to start breaking the legal and formal organisation from the ontological. all the components in the various commons across apache are similar in many ways. users should really need to care which

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cleanup pmc members

2006-03-17 Thread Danny Angus
On 16/03/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poorly explained by me. The file would be deleted once it had served its purpose. Oh OK my misunderstanding, that changes things a bit. An alternative is a mail thread to which everyone must answer to remain on the PMC - however a file in

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cleanup pmc members

2006-03-16 Thread Danny Angus
Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 16/03/2006 08:14:08: My proposal is that we create a file in SVN in which PMC members can list themselves as being active. After 1 month, failure to appear in that list will result in removal from the PMC. If it goes well we could consider doing it

RE: Jakarta stats

2006-01-13 Thread Danny Angus
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Re: Jakarta stats

2006-01-13 Thread Danny Angus
Martin wrote: The result can be a couple of things (probably depending on the response) : - Vote on them (?) I think the most straightforward thing is simply to announce that a vote will be held for which the rules are that more than a quorum of +1's and no -1's are required to remove a PMC

Re: Jakarta stats

2006-01-12 Thread Danny Angus
I'm one of the 1) Inactive PMC members : 39 For historical reasons I made it onto this PMC just as the project I was really involved with (James) got promoted to TLP. I hung around to try to help make sure that Jakarta didn't die as a result of all the reorganisation, and wasn't killed

Re: GMANE

2005-09-02 Thread Danny Angus
I agree with Martin (below) While we might not want to prevent people accessing our lists using these services the only *official* method is to subscribe. d. 3. easiest path to posting a question to a list that you're not a member of, examining the responses, and then leaving. IMHO, this

Re: Copyright line in code submissions

2005-07-28 Thread Danny Angus
Yeah +1, create it and we can create an IANAL mail storm ;-) We can create an FAQ based upon our own misunderstanding, because at least it will get the misunderstanding out in the open and allow it to be reviewed and corrected by those who know about such things. Would it be possible to have

Re: Copyright line in code submissions

2005-07-26 Thread Danny Angus
Robert wrote: i sometimes find it hard to work out where opinion stops and policy begins... Then again... it is surely the PMC's business to know or find out, and enforce? I mean, IANAL but as a manager I would think that if the PMC is charged with oversight it is surely marginally better for

Re: Name for commons-like area for web

2005-06-27 Thread Danny Angus
Web Components. +1 It is what it says it is. Even to those who's first language may not be English. d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended

Re: VOTE: Tomcat - TLP

2005-04-07 Thread Danny Angus
+1 Danny Angus (Jakarta PMC Member) On Apr 6, 2005 4:36 PM, Ian F. Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As has been discussed on this list on tomcat-dev, the Tomcat people are interested in moving up. Attached please find a Resolution to this effect from the proposed new Tomcat PMC

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-21 Thread Danny Angus
Remy wrote: I am definitely contributing to Tomcat as part of my employment at JBoss. I am not contributing on my own free time to Tomcat as an individual at the moment, and (as far as I can remember, as it was a while ago ...) have submitted a company CLA reflecting that

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-21 Thread Danny Angus
At this point, how about simply kicking me out and ending the problems faster ? Just one quick vote on board@ and any future issues disappear magically. Oh grow up. No one has criticised you, no one has complained that you are paid by JBOSS, no one has criticised your contributions, no one

RE: FW: PMC contact for Wiki Admin

2005-02-18 Thread Danny Angus
It is funny after all these years that the Apache meritocracy has only evolved to sending +1 votes via email. grin Actually I think it is significant. +1's etc. in emails fulfils 100% of our requirements, business, legal and infrastructure, and is demonstrably accessable, robust and fault

Re: [site] Label for promoted Jakarta project

2005-01-13 Thread Danny Angus
We did remove the graduated TLP's from the nav some while ago, I think it was me who did it. But put it back when people started asking for it, the idea was that many people, including some of us tend to go to jakarta.apache first and click links to get to ant, struts et-al. I tend to think that

Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-10 Thread Danny Angus
sorry I mistyped 1.2.4 for 1.4.2 ! issue with RedHat Enterprise and J2sdk 1.2.4, *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or

Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-07 Thread Danny Angus
One thing you *may* care about is using certified Java VM. You should also be aware that there are issues with combinations of JVM and Linux, at work we're still trying to resolve an issue with RedHat Enterprise and J2sdk 1.2.4, and there were significant issues with certain earlier redhat and

Re: [site] clean up

2005-01-06 Thread Danny Angus
Robert, and is any planning needed so that no toes are stepped on? An advance heads-up would warn other projects which might link to those pages. Though as a redirect wouldn't break the links I guess its not that important, James has been bitten by Jakarta changes before, though I hasten to add

Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-06 Thread Danny Angus
So either: a) we should roll back to the table style for header and footer for the moment; or b) we should just ignore it and wait for complaints to come in :) snip Does a) sound okay? When you sell it like that its unopposable! d.

Re: Last call for comments Was: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome

2005-01-06 Thread Danny Angus
There are a couple of tweaky things - like the font seems a little bigger than it needs to be, I twiddled with James css y'day, I think the fonts there are finally OK http://james.apache.org the (extremely simple) css is in svn if you want to look. I'd be interested in theiveing the 3tier xsl

Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt

2005-01-05 Thread Danny Angus
FYI James uses XSLT with no dependance on Anakia or Jakarta-site On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:02:23 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2005,

Re: Lessons Learned

2004-12-10 Thread Danny Angus
Richard, Hi. I was wondering; what are the lessons learned? Everything you see is a lesson learned, what you see in practice is our best, but still admittedly flawed, practice. If you were starting all over today, what things would you have done differently? What are the blind alleys? I'm

RE: Mail list page

2004-12-01 Thread Danny Angus
I'd be happy to see watchdog intrest directed to general@ d. |-+ | | Shapira, Yoav | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | .com| | || | |

Re: Future JDK features - performance and stability

2004-10-29 Thread Danny Angus
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:11:03 -0700, Dain Sundstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +10 I make that 10 trillion. Did I hit a nerve there Dain? ! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-28 Thread Danny Angus
Dain wrote: I understand what you are saying, but do you believe that Sun could actually get such a feature right? I take your point, and tend to think not. I don't believe that Sun would get it right first time, not if we consider their track record. So, yes, I am arguing that no feature is

Future JDK features - performance and stability

2004-10-28 Thread Danny Angus
This is a bit of a rant, I know but... One thing I would like to see Sun do, from the point of view of my previous role at work, would be to devote more effort to improving the stability and performance of the Hotspot VM on all platforms. From what I can see are a number of defects in the Hotspot

Re: FW: RE: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-27 Thread Danny Angus
of behaviour, and I don't believe it needs to break any OO principles if it is properly designed. This approach [anonymous classes] might do the job just as well. What say you, Danny Angus? It works, obviously, but it contains more meaningless boilerplate code for structure than significant code

Re: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-27 Thread Danny Angus
Dain wrote: If you want method pointers today, just get a good byte code generation tool. Yeah I know, and I seriously believe that workarounds such as this do more to harm the so-called purity of Java than providing explicit language level mechanisms for method pointers. The AWT moved from

Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-26 Thread Danny Angus
1/ Ok don't flame me... Method pointers I *know* it is possible to accomplish all the delegation one might want by using polymorphism, but this often leads to unncessary screeds of boiler-plate, so I still I believe there is a case for some kind of streamlining of delegation by allowing it to be

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-29 Thread Danny Angus
The problem is that for java, there are questions about the clarity of the provisions in the license that prevent the virality from taking effect, which is why the ASF doesn't allow LGPLed java usage. I believe that a specific example is implementing an interface where the interface is LGPL,

Re: [VOTE] Updating PMC bylaws

2004-08-11 Thread Danny Angus
+1 d. Danny Angus *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient

RE: Updating the PMC bylaws

2004-08-09 Thread Danny Angus
But those projects won't have 3 active committers. Watchdog and ECS are good examples. IMO The Watchdog debate, that resulted in you and I accepting a monitoring role, is a good outcome. Basically Jakarta is a single ASF project, the PMC is responsible for everything, and the notion of

RE: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-07 Thread Danny Angus
Noel, But I don't think that we need a separate TLP for it. I would leave the project in the community that last hosted the now dormant project. Good point, perhaps we just need to organise ourselves. d. *** The

Re: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-07 Thread Danny Angus
Geir wrote: Well, I'm a little leery about sending watchdog traffic (even if none) to general@ - all it takes is one guy getting interested :) (My silence was due to temporary no-email-at-home, not indifference!) I'd prefer to propose the following: 1/ that a PMC vote is taken *HERE* to

RE: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-07 Thread Danny Angus
Noel wrote: We leave the resources in place, with a notice that the project is dormant. If it is revitalized, great. If not, what harm is there? To me it seems like an opportunity for part of jakarta to fall out of PMC oversight. I'm not suggesting that there is any legal controversy

Re: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-07 Thread Danny Angus
I don't think that working, used-by-users code is 'dead'. There may not be an active community of developers, but if the code is done, it's done. I agree. I think we should consider it as the caretakeing of the user community of a stable product, and if it ever arises, the sponsors of a

RE: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-04 Thread Danny Angus
First of all, I'm curious to know what you think incubation has to do with dormant projects. It's the opposite. Secondly, I'm not one who favors closing an open source project. Ever. I didn't really agree with closing java.apache.org. Although I do agree with closing that domain, in

Re: Why use maillists??

2004-04-16 Thread Danny Angus
why does the Apache/Jakarta project still uses maillist? It's a technology that was used before the invention of WWW. And boy does it ever work! I've worked on a number of commercial projects which are managed in a similar way to accomodate dispersed teams. It works, we like it, get used

RE: Jakarta embracing the JCP?

2004-03-22 Thread Danny Angus
Having named leads of any sort is the antithesis of what I would like to see within the ASF. Fair enough, but there's no reason I can see why a JCP lead shouldn't be an OSS chair, I guess the JCP needs spec leads like the ASF needs chairpeople, to be a single point of refrence from above

Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Danny Angus
What about starting by making sure Apache java projects _do_ work with the 2 open source JVMs that are mentioned in the article ? This is a fine idea, if we're bending the rules to the extent that our stuff won't run on any specifications compliant JVM we should address that, particularly

Re: [VOTE] HiveMind as a Jakarta sub-project

2004-03-03 Thread Danny Angus
[X] +1 I support this proposal [ ] -1 I don't support this proposal [ ] 0 I abstain from voting for or against this proposal d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s)

Re: [VOTE] HiveMind as a Jakarta sub-project

2004-03-03 Thread Danny Angus
I see people marking there votes as BINDING, just for the record my +1 is binding too. |-+ | | Danny Angus | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | co.uk

chairmen..

2004-02-23 Thread Danny Angus
If its not too patronising of me I'd like to propose vote of thanks to Sam as outgoing chair, Sam, I know you've been more involved elsewhere lately, but from a personal point of view I've learned to respect and appreciate the low-key, mature and consensus building way in which you have

Re: compressed body in HTTP POST request; using Jabber for IM

2004-02-11 Thread Danny Angus
We were thinking of using either Tomcat or JBoss for the server, Unless you're not going to use http with JBOSS You'll find that JBOSS is Bundled with Tomcat for the web app container.. From my extensive and brain deadening reading of the MIME rfcs I don't think you be violating the spec

Re: compressed body in HTTP POST request; using Jabber for IM

2004-02-11 Thread Danny Angus
Aha.. misread content-encoding as content-type.. I suspect that gzip is *not* an encoding, which is something like Base64, Uuencode or Quoted-printable and is used to ensure that binary data will pass unmolested through mail transport agents (MTA's) which are only required to handle ASCII,

Re: RIA experiences

2004-02-04 Thread Danny Angus
Hi Henri, I'm taking a serious look at Rich Internet Applications, and I'm investigating using FlashMX as client. Did some of you have some experiences on this ? Yep, I've developed two server apps for Flash clients using XMLRPC (http://www.proboscis.org.uk/urbantapestries/index.html is one

Re: New Project Proposal

2004-01-08 Thread Danny Angus
Chad, I am an IBM employee who has developed a new type of framework Please first read: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html also read http://incubator.apache.org/ You might consider approching the incubator project (subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I would certainly suggest it as

Re: Listing on the Third Part Support for Jakarta Products

2004-01-06 Thread Danny Angus
Submit a patch to this list in the usual way. I would like to have our company listed under both Developer Support and Complete Solutions Providers, with the following info: *** The information in this e-mail is

Website and Reorganisation language... a suggestion

2004-01-05 Thread Danny Angus
Hi, I just had a Eureka moment, albeit a not very significant one, and I want to brain dump... I read this headine on TSS The Apache Jakarta team announces Lucene 1.3 Final It set me to thinking about the issue of using product on the website against the more correct, but less newbie

Re: [License] for jars in CVS

2004-01-02 Thread Danny Angus
I see what you are saying, but why is this an issue only with OGNL? Is it because of license incompatibilities? 'Cause there are other jars in CVS both Apache and non-Apache. Harish, It isn't only an issue with OGNL, it is a general issue which has been bubbling away for months. In

RE: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-29 Thread Danny Angus
We should trust the judgment of our community, let each committer decide for themselves, and then Jakarta be whatever Jakarta wants to be. +1 I totally agree, and I would hope that no one seriously holds any other view. Concern about oversight has been flagged as an issue for us to address

RE: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-28 Thread Danny Angus
-1 I don't think the PMC should be doing anything other than encouraging sub-projects to *consider* TLP at this stage. The proposal contains a number of detailed actions most of which I'd wholeheartedly support as they will help sub-projects to consider pro's and con's of promotion. However

RE: Indemnification of the PMC

2003-12-27 Thread Danny Angus
Stephen wrote, For example, am I in writing this email, acting in the capacity of a PMC member, a committer, or an individual? Seems to me that part of the reason it is difficult to resolve the issues confronting Jakarta is that several initial assumptions are required, and that these are

RE: [License] for jars in CVS

2003-12-24 Thread Danny Angus
Erik As for the larger issue of no JARs in CVS - I disagree. I don't believe that there is room for opinion on this, the fact is it is possible for people to download jars using viewcvs without having read the licence therefore it is not acceptable. UNLESS you have *specific* dispensation

RE: [License] for jars in CVS

2003-12-24 Thread Danny Angus
I am with Erik on no JARs in CVS. Unless it is a legal issue, I would certainly like to distribute all JARs with the distribution. In the case of most of the licences we'd be likely to consider in this context it is usually perfectly OK to distribute Jars in a distribution because that

RE: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were

2003-12-24 Thread Danny Angus
As both Roy and Greg have said, if the Jakarta committers truly understood how few rights and privileges they have, they would be demanding both ASF and PMC membership. Few do, so few have. Well I kind of asked for PMC nomination, are you saying that we should, or indeed could, ask for

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Danny Angus
Andy wrote: FYI, except where I feel the situation absolutely mandates it, I will be voting/discussing here. snip I choose to work in the open. I choose to be googled. I volunteered for it in fact. Well said, I agree with this. But why be so confrontational about it? After all in the

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Danny Angus
While closing out everyone else. Like those who are not yet committers. I certainly think that increasing the size of the PMC makes it easier for things to get discussed on the PMC list, but if people care (and you do for one) about visibility the very nature of things mean that it won't

RE: TRACE level [WAS] Jakarta: Confederation or Single Project?

2003-12-20 Thread Danny Angus
Unfortunately, you can't buy nor open source humor. Perhaps you could delegate it? I've often considered selling my children on the internet, they have a great sense of humour. OTOH perhaps it wouldn't stretch *that* far! d. disclaimer that was a JOKE, my wife would go seriously ballistic if

Re: Confused with PMCs, TLPs, ASF and Power?

2003-12-19 Thread Danny Angus
Be aware of the disclaimer at the top Nice disclaimer ;-) d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-18 Thread Danny Angus
The reason everything is quiet here is all decisions are being made on private lists now. Well at least it's honest. But it makes me wonder about the long term effect of a private decision process in an open source group. It seems to have almost destroyed the XFree86 project recently.

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-18 Thread Danny Angus
Do you feel that we'll still be an open source organization in more than name if all decisions end up being made on private PMC lists not open to the public? For the record I'm in favour of transacting business HERE. But I would like to respond by saying that as I understand it it is the

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-18 Thread Danny Angus
As a committer I would like to know what's going on with the origanization. I can understand certain private conversations that involve legal implications, but anything else, I think, should be out in the open to do justice to the committers. It seems like there is some talk going on about

Re: Promotion of sub projects

2003-12-10 Thread Danny Angus
David Sean Taylor wrote, Just for fun I thought I'd fill this out for the Jetspeed and Pluto projects (WSRP4J is another possibility). We would like to start a TLP named 'portal.apache.org' including Jetspeed-1, Jetspeed-2 and Pluto, and other portal apps as they are developed. Good,

RE: Promotion of sub projects

2003-12-10 Thread Danny Angus
Just a reminder, but there need not be a 1:1 mapping of PMC and web domain, so there is no need to breakup the Jakarta web site unless people *want* to do so. Quite so, there's no obligation on a promoted sub-project to abandon its place in the jakarta infrastructure. In fact the idea of

Promotion of sub projects

2003-12-09 Thread Danny Angus
In the light of a request to the PMC by a Jakarta sub-project to have its own top-level wiki I thought of this... Jakarta is attempting to put our house in order wrt oversight, this is manifesting itself as incresed centralisation of oversight, and reduced autonomy for sub-projects. An issue

Re: [POLL] pmc alumni

2003-12-02 Thread Danny Angus
--- [+1 ] Cool [ ] Whatever [ ] UnCool [ ] I've Got A Better Idea (Please Tell Everyone About It) --- ***

Re: FeedParser - RSS/Atom parser/serializer contribution to Jakarta.

2003-11-20 Thread Danny Angus
1. Find out if Apache has any interest in this code. I think I do :-) 2. Find out what legal documents my company has to process for this to be adopted. We have to have our lawyers review this. I believe that there is a software donation grant document for this, but I'm not the guy to

Re: New project proposal -- Html4Java

2003-11-17 Thread Danny Angus
Sounds interesting, but have you seen ECS? http://jakarta.apache.org/ecs/index.html And for something more weighty in the realm of component architecture for web-pages there's Tapestry http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry

Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework

2003-11-12 Thread Danny Angus
I still ask myself why we can't put HiveMind as its own project under the Jakarta umbrella. It doesn't seem unreasonable to me, if the criteria are met and the political implications of creating a new sub-project are acceptable. Otherwise a spell in commons will help to cement the community

Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework

2003-11-12 Thread Danny Angus
Howard wrote: 3) Chuck it over to Avalon I've looked to see how we could graft HiveMind into Avalon and vice-versa, but they are really quite different beasts. The type-1 vs. type-2/type-3 split is intrinsic and difficult to reconcile. HiveMind's concept of a module doesn't map so

Re: Call on Stein to resin

2003-11-11 Thread Danny Angus
Vic, Notwithstanding your arguments this is not the appropriate forum for this. This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta project. Geronimo is not under the jursidiction of the Jakarta project. If you want to make trouble please make it in the appropriate place,

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Danny Angus
The ASF treats the allegations of code copying very seriously, and will take what actions are necessary to ensure that no IP rights are violated, any offending code, if found, is removed, and any other appropriate action is taken. GREAT!!! That is 99% of what I wanted to hear. I

Re: Call on Stein to resin

2003-11-11 Thread Danny Angus
why it is not the appropriate forum for this shouldnt we know the truth??!!! We must know the truth Quoting from my original message which you appear NOT to have read before replying to it: This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta project. Geronimo is not

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