Its peer review, once the commiters themselves are happy to release the code (they
vote to ascertain this) they release it.
But as development is Open the code is actually available for download from CVS before
it has been reviewed, approved, tested or anything.
The golden rule is that code in
This is probably something that I intended this for:
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?TheStudentResearchPage
Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
on 2003/2/4 4:17 PM, Eric Merhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Can you please send me or point me to information on how submitted open
source
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On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Sam Ruby wrote:
This issue has come up before. This time, let's flatten it.
In two weeks, there is a board meeting. At that time, I would like to
be able to report that the contents of the Maven repository conforms to
the policies of the Apache Software Foundation.
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#20030204.1
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On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:57, Sam Ruby wrote:
This issue has come up before. This time, let's flatten it.
In two weeks, there is a board meeting. At that time, I would like to
be able to report that the contents of the Maven repository conforms to
the policies of the Apache Software
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 12:30, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 11:57, Sam Ruby wrote:
This issue has come up before. This time, let's flatten it.
In two weeks, there is a board meeting. At that time, I would like to
be able to report that the contents of the Maven repository
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 13:16, Sam Ruby wrote:
Jason van Zyl wrote:
The Sun Binary Code License issue I am looking into personally and will
either 1) add a click through license handler 2) Add the
non-distributable JARs feature back in or 3) remove them. These are a
problem.
I don't
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 13:16, Sam Ruby wrote:
I am requesting that the people contributing to Maven perform an audit.
I would like to see that audit complete within two weeks.
It is not difficult to find more license violations. Quite a number of
the packages starting with the letter
Page 7 [on printer friendly verson]'s Figure 5 lists the number of members
each 'company' has in expert groups and lists Apache as having 15.
Now, as http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=127 appears to me to have
anything from 1 to 4 Apache people on it, I imagine that the article's
numbers are
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-01-2003/jw-0131-jcp.html
That article has some nice quotes in it but blows overall. Why do you ask?
It gives way to much credit to the JCP as the main way to get involved
in Java technology
and standardization. The get involved paragraph I find
This conversation is going in the wrong direction.
Sam:
The ASF has no juristiction over the Maven Repository. The most that
could be done is to say
You can't use the word Maven in it. Its not on ASF servers, is not
sanctioned in any way. You could probably say Maven you can't use
the
-Original Message-
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:18 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary
distribution location]
Nick Chalko who is one of my own personal favorites (despite
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Nick Chalko wrote:
I hope to have a proposal started on the Wiki tonight (PST). The Maven
repository
has been an essential tool for me for me.
The next step is to play nice with gump.
Then do help with dependencies
Also to make it easy for projects
JJAR has stalled. but maybe restarting that is a good solution.
I think building outside of maven is a worthwhile because not every one uses
maven.
I would like to see the tools and standards developed be independent of the
build tool.
-Original Message-
From: Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:35, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Nick Chalko wrote:
I hope to have a proposal started on the Wiki tonight (PST). The Maven
repository
has been an essential tool for me for me.
The next step is to play nice with gump.
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:38, Nick Chalko wrote:
JJAR has stalled. but maybe restarting that is a good solution.
It's not a good idea. Again, it was started at my behest and I've
absorbed everything in JJAR into Maven's mechanism. Which can be split
out.
I think building outside of maven is a
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote:
JJAR has stalled. but maybe restarting that is a good solution.
I think building outside of maven is a worthwhile because not every one uses
maven.
I would like to see the tools and standards developed be independent of the
build tool.
This doesn't
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote, On 05/02/2003 20.35:
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Nick Chalko wrote:
I hope to have a proposal started on the Wiki tonight (PST). The Maven
repository
has been an essential tool for me for me.
The next step is to play nice with gump.
Then do help
On 5 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:29, Nick Chalko wrote:
I hope to have a proposal started on the Wiki tonight (PST). The Maven
repository
has been an essential tool for me for me.
The next step is to play nice with gump.
Then do help
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:38 PM, Nick Chalko wrote:
JJAR has stalled. but maybe restarting that is a good solution.
I just wanted to suggest that you might get something out of what was
there, not that it should be restarted.
I think building outside of maven is a worthwhile
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote, On 05/02/2003 20.35:
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Nick Chalko wrote:
JJAR in commons sandbox had some of these ideas in there... But can you
build this into maven rather than in parallel?
I'd like to see this broken out of Maven / Centipede whatever, and put into
libraries that can be used independent of the build tools.
I also think that we need to plan for multiple repositories, whether they be
ASF, ibiblio, what have you.
There are two ideas going on in this thread. One is
-Original Message-
From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:42 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: Clear the air
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote:
JJAR has stalled. but maybe restarting that is a good solution.
I think
doing Struts work?? Cut Craig in half! :) ]
Shall we vote on the Craig Partitioning? Sun can keep the JSP side of
his personality if you
ask me? ;-) (just playing around Craig ;-) )
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http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPOIAudits/20030205
Although its not official, I'm more or less the defacto current member
in charge of oversight for Jakarta POI.
Because there seem to be questions on a number of projects as to their
license usage, I thought it would
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote:
I don't use maven to do my builds. I use a different tool(centipede or
ant).
I am proposing an Project to handle dependencies, versioning, and downloads.
The new project being separate from both Maven and Centipede but useable by
both (or other
-Original Message-
From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:57 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: Clear the air
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote:
I don't use maven to do my builds. I use a different tool(centipede or
ant).
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Nick Chalko wrote:
*nod*. +1 on using what Maven currently has, merged with anything Ruper
has learnt about being outside of Maven and tested by both the Maven
and
Centipede communities. -1 to JJAR as it's just never made it into
reality.
Why use a
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Nick Chalko wrote:
*nod*. +1 on using what Maven currently has, merged with anything Ruper
has learnt about being outside of Maven and tested by both the Maven
and
Centipede communities. -1 to
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:06 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Nick Chalko wrote:
*nod*. +1 on using what Maven currently has, merged with anything
Ruper
has learnt about being outside of Maven
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:50, Ted Leung wrote:
I'd like to see this broken out of Maven / Centipede whatever, and put into
libraries that can be used independent of the build tools.
I also think that we need to plan for multiple repositories, whether they be
ASF, ibiblio, what have you.
-Original Message-
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: Clear the air
I think building outside of maven is a worthwhile because not every
one uses
maven.
Would more people
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?RuperProposal
I've set up a proposal about a Jakarta project for a Repository Project
on the wiki. Below is the current content.
Maven developers are invited to partecipate in the effort :-)
Cheers!
Jason van Zyl wrote:
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:45, Henri Yandell wrote:
The Sun licence stuff on there is more quesitonable. I figure as long as
ibiblio are aware they are liable, and that they have happily accepted
that liability, then it doesn't matter. Or do they pass the liability on
to the
on 2003/2/5 8:34 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thoughts?
+1
Make the change then...
-jon
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On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 15:38, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?RuperProposal
I've set up a proposal about a Jakarta project for a Repository Project
on the wiki. Below is the current content.
Maven developers are invited to partecipate in the effort
On 5 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 15:38, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?RuperProposal
I've set up a proposal about a Jakarta project for a Repository Project
on the wiki. Below is the current content.
Maven developers
I'd hate to see us build mechanism that enforced policy.
+1
I'd like to lend a hand if this gets broken out into a separate project.
+1
Ted
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Jason,
Can you please add your name to this as a committer and/or a sponsoring
member: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?RuperProposal
Also other maven folks?
I value your previous experience and existing source code.
-Andy
Maven developers are invited to partecipate in the effort :-)
Great, so you're inviting us to develop something we've already thought
about intensely and implemented. Do you ever wonder why we as Maven
developers have never felt compelled to work with you?
Thats not fair Jason. So far
I just got off the phone and I got a clear answer as to what
Apache could be liable for. If Maven, being an ASF piece of software, is
party to illegal assembly then the ASF could be liable.
I'd like to thank you and applaud you for being so concientious about
this. I would not have
okey, i'm wading in here, noting as i do the angels high-tailing
it in the other direction.. :-)
i'm ccing community@apache because i think portions of this
discussion are important to the entire asf developer
community, and not just jakarta. (jakarta leads the way
again! grin nature=completely
+1 ( a bit too long, but good !)
Costin
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
okey, i'm wading in here, noting as i do the angels high-tailing
it in the other direction.. :-)
i'm ccing community@apache because i think portions of this
discussion are important to the entire asf developer
- continuing discussion on the general/dev lists -
Costin Manolache wrote, On 05/02/2003 22.14:
I'm +1 overall - but I have few sugestions and proposals.
Cool :-)
First: if it will be a jakarta project, I would like it to be all-jakarta,
like gump - any jakarta ( apache ) committer should
On 5/2/03 16:48 Nathan Christiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone on this list know who I would need to contact at nagoya.apache.org
in order to change my E-mail address on my Bugzilla account?
My company has changed names and therefore my E-mail address has changed. The
old E-mail
Let me second Andy's request. The proposal is much less interesting if what
is developed is not usable by Maven -- Having a new project which competes
with a piece of Maven will leave us with a bad solution for this problem
space. Also, I think it's clear that the Maven developers have thought
I'm +1 overall - but I have few sugestions and proposals.
First: if it will be a jakarta project, I would like it to be all-jakarta,
like gump - any jakarta ( apache ) committer should have access to it. I
consider this an requirement ( I won't vote +1 without this ). I think
that jakarta
Costin Manolache wrote, On 05/02/2003 23.02:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
I am not very happy with the maven layout - which includes only jars.
If this is aproved - I would like it to require a layout that supports
all project components. I assume ( hope ) that part of this project
will be an
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 16:08, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Jason,
Can you please add your name to this as a committer and/or a sponsoring
member: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?RuperProposal
Also other maven folks?
I value your previous experience and existing source code.
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 17:26, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 16:08, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Jason,
Can you please add your name to this as a committer and/or a sponsoring
member: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?RuperProposal
Also other maven folks?
I
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
I would sugest proposing Version to ant.
Why? It seems to me that versioning and resource updating-retriving is
really tied together. Why Ant?
If it gets included in ant1.5 - more people will have access to it by
default, and more likely will be for other projects
(here's some bits and pieces from the commons.)
Jakarta Commons
===
The major subject for debate this month was the organization of the
mailing lists (again):
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-devm=104376872026090w=2
Jexl
Jexl was promoted from the Sandbox to
Seriously people, just forget this strand of the thread. Jason hasn't
slept and is under stress due to family issues.
Jason will probably be mad at me for posting this, but I wanted to say
something.
geir
On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 05:30 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
On Wed, 2003-02-05
Costin Manolache wrote, On 05/02/2003 23.25:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
I would sugest proposing Version to ant.
Why? It seems to me that versioning and resource updating-retriving is
really tied together. Why Ant?
If it gets included in ant1.5 - more people will have access to it by
Costin Manolache wrote:
I'm +1 overall - but I have few sugestions and proposals.
First: if it will be a jakarta project, I would like it to be all-jakarta,
like gump - any jakarta ( apache ) committer should have access to it. I
consider this an requirement ( I won't vote +1 without this ).
I don't care too much about the code either - but more about a layout
that supports both jars and docs and support files.
+1
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Can't do it. I will never collaborate on anything with Nicola Ken
Barozzi. And if I have to say it in public I will. I would probably
participate in anything but not with him.
wow... :-(
-Andy
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On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
I am not very happy with the maven layout - which includes only jars.
If this is aproved - I would like it to require a layout that supports
all project components. I assume ( hope ) that part of this project
will be an effort to convert jakarta
- Hello?
- Go away, the Wizard of Oz is doing Maven.
- But I need a heart?
Is mostly everyone indifferent to basicPortal?
basicPortal would kind of uses open source NullSoft to create setup.exe,
and not Maven. (it that an angle to get some comments :)).
How about is General or Incubator the
Personally I stopped reading when it said .exe because it meant won't
run on any of your servers.. I didn't think this feedback was worth
providing, but there you have it. Hope it helps.
Vic Cekvenich wrote:
- Hello?
- Go away, the Wizard of Oz is doing Maven.
- But I need a heart?
Is mostly
Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/02/2003 08:53:20 AM:
Costin Manolache wrote, On 05/02/2003 22.14:
I am not very happy with the maven layout - which includes only jars.
This is not correct. The maven repository structure includes many
deliverable types, not just jars.
--
Andrew, can you or someone help put this in as a project proposal?
Incubator? Wiki? Here?
I followed all the rules to propose a proejct, like OJB and Tapestry did.
Of course it runs Linux, it's only Tomcat. But Windoze users do not know
how to edit server.xml to setup JDBC relms, etc. This
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Can't do it. I will never collaborate on anything with Nicola Ken
Barozzi. And if I have to say it in public I will. I would probably
participate in anything but not with him.
wow... :-(
I don't know what wow means - but it is absolutely normal for any
community.
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
In short, the answer is no, and this applies to any software with
copyright of The Apache Software Foundation.
which brings up a very good point that may have been overlooked:
this applies to anything on ibiblio or elsewhere that is
[Retry with a better subject line and the proper mailing lists addreses
... sigh]
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
In short, the answer is no, and this applies to any software with
copyright of The Apache Software Foundation.
which brings up a very good point that may have
Sam Ruby wrote:
This issue has come up before. This time, let's flatten it.
In two weeks, there is a board meeting. At that time, I would like to
be able to report that the contents of the Maven repository conforms to
the policies of the Apache Software Foundation.
Code under the ASF License
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