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Santiago Gala wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
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This is one of my least favourite features of this forrest skin.
Look at this version, which is a modified forrest skin, if it's better:
http://www.krysalis.org/centipede/
I took all the suggestions from users
not Maven developers.
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it's just never made it into
reality.
Why use a dead-component, or aspects of it, when there are two
versions of
a live component in place.
Read what I said...
Geir, JJAR has helped us *a lot* in this project, and we use it always
as a reference. Thank you :-)
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rt of Maven ?]
'''(3) identify the ASF resources to be created '''
'''(3.1) mailing list(s) '''
* ruper-dev
* ruper-cvs
(no user mailing list yet, we are starting at Jakarta)
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ussing the code details ;-)
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Costin Manolache wrote, On 05/02/2003 23.02:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
I am not very happy with the maven layout - which includes only jars.
If this is aproved - I would like it to require a layout that supports
all project components. I assume ( hope ) that part of this project
will be an
Costin Manolache wrote, On 05/02/2003 23.25:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
I would sugest proposing Version to ant.
Why? It seems to me that versioning and resource updating-retriving is
really tied together. Why Ant?
If it gets included in ant1.5 - more people will have access to it by
case, we should IMHO help them be aware that it's not
the case.
ASF members that wish to be more directly involved in this issue can
subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before anyone asks, yes, this is a
subscriber moderated list.
Note that I don't object to such a list being that way. :-
Surprise surprise...
http://www.javalobby.org/thread.jsp?forum=61&thread=6843
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All I want to do is write code and manage HttpClient to a full release.
That won't change.
Its all I have time for. Already this PMC chaos is taking more time
than I want to spend on it.
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wonderful set of people
supporting you. Both within the PMC itself and on the board.
Yes, I can confirm this fully :-)
Being a chair carries responsibilities. What Sam has depicted is a very
nice and correct explanation of what being a chair means.
Any takers with the guts?
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te of the Apache license).
Let me know if you have any questions, concerns or if I forgot something
important. The only difference between 1.20 and 1.21 is the licensing
change.
Mark
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Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
I'd like to propose that Howard Lewis Ship be given jakarta-site
access and I hereby nominate him for the Jakarta PMC.
+1
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No? ;-P
If XML.Apache is willing, as it seems, to cater for this project, I'll
wait for a vote from them, an ACK from the Bea guys, and start preparing
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Greg Stein wrote, On 08/07/2003 9.58:
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 08:43:36AM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Greg Stein wrote, On 04/07/2003 1.24:
...
Agreed. That's what I was trying to say, and my read on the board..
...
You guys are misconstruing my statements.
Greg, I'm trying to exp
ts"?
Me:
ROTFL!
Gnu guy:"Linux is just a kernel, we should call the
OS Gnu/Linux...".
Apache guy: "Apache is not just a webserver, the server
should be called Apache HTTPD..."
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can ask to become
top-level projects, as James and Avalon have done.
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It looks like the avalon-tigris skin we have in Forrest. ATM this skin
is not very much maintained, so if you would like to send patches, we
can make the project use that one.
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I'm cross-posting to lists where there might be interest in helping you
out on this.
www.daffodildb.com
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Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will do my best to support someone who wants to create a manual
> like that. If you hang around here and watch what happens and how people
do
> things and start to document it. Then I promise to review it and comment
on
> it.
e, see:
>
>
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/~checkout~/jakarta-commons/docs/latka/index.ht
ml?rev=1.7
>
> My proposal is to make these same changes to site.vsl and site.xsl. Since
> L&F is a major thing, what do others think?
How about http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ ?
See also http://j
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 12:00:53
> > How about http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ ?
> > See also http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/overview.html .
>
> I like these better. Does it come as a sty
t and Chaperon, and bring the benefits
of cross-project pollination to the build.
Since this topic doesn't properly belong to this list, I hope
that this brief explanation of Krysalis Centipede will be enough
to give a basic understanding of what the discussion was
about and move
like.
If any project doesn't want to mess with site generation, just ask me or
even better on the Forrest mailing list
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project? I mean, I can see where a lot of projects are
> eventually going to follow this same path ...
Are they gonna make us change our Jakarta name?
Should we switch proactively to APatchE JackHeartA?
(I always wanted to use *proactively* in a mail ;)
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The jar is done like this:
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Gump, Forrest and Centipede agree that a common format is auspicable, and
will definately use the same formats.
(BTW, I have included the suggestions I got from the gump list in the new
format)
Maven is going its own way. It generates the Gump de
pede:
http://www.sf.net/projects/krysalis/
Site using Centipede:
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/
You make the decision.
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From: "Jon Scott Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> on 4/30/02 2:46 PM, "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Krysalis Centipede:
> > http://www.sf.net/projects/krysalis/
> >
> > Site using Centipede:
> > http://j
a comon system
that solves *all* our _needs_.
SUMMARY
***
Here is my +1+1+1 for all three proposals.
This is the best I can do, and what I think is in the best interest for
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t will be needed.
Many tools it has, could be cool to be in Commons, (like the importScrubber)
but it seems that you will have to get all Maven to get it to work.
There is also JJAR in Commons which Centipede uses, but it seems that they
don't really like to eat the same Jakarta dogfood the
ecial guidelines on this?
Are there any suggestions on this topic?
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From: "Jeff Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:54:48AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote:
> > At 09:02 13/05/2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> > >I would like to encourage information about commercial entities that
> > >support
>
l be available shortly.
If it generates intrest, we will ask to put it here at Jakarta.
If not, heck, we tried ;-)
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This list a place where we can talk-discuss about Commercial support to
Jakarta projects.
If this list will have a reasonable success, we can ask to have it hosted
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ore need to "suppose" it could be a good idea.
It's there now. You want to make it work?
Join.
krysalis-jakarta-adv mailing list @ www.krysalis.org
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ise the new list elsewhere?
Of course :-)
http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/krysalis-jakarta-adv
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Are
> we undermining that?
No, it isn't.
In a true democracy, one has the right to abstain.
IMO that a good democracy doesn't need strong feelings: many dictators go to
power with a strong vote with a strong turnout, while one of the major
democracies of the world, the US, doen
From: "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> Being a committer (at least that's my idea), he doesn't only hav
bugs or 100s of mails answering questions.
If commit numbers are not so important (and I agree), then why measure them
at all?
BTW, this is not what you said some days ago:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-general&m=102112907923436&am
From: "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > If commit numbers are not so important (and I agree), then why measure
them
> > at all?
>
> If commit numbers are not so important (and I agr
From: "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > What is the way that *any* community decides in voting?
> >
> > You *are* a member of the community even if you do not h
From: "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > It does have the right to vote, but it's not binding (at least this is
what
> > Stefano told me two weeks ago).
> >
> > I don
that use it, what is
the "real" status and what can we expect the reasonable adoption in Apache
to be.
As for now, I'd be happy when I see Scarab b7+ running
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Well said.
I subscribe to this.
We should remember that people that contribute so much should be proposed as
committers, regardless to the code submitted, as is done AFAIK in POI,
Struts, Cocoon, Forrest, Avalon, and the Krysalis projects (that refer to
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me stronger, and I learned a lot.
Now you made me come in Avalon just on my word and good proposition, and
this is something I will never forget. It has a very strong meaning for me.
I would like that others have these possibilities, that have made me learn a
lot.
I'm afraid that having "t
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by any single government (US citizens be
> careful: next M$ move against Apache will be lobbying with the US
> government to change the rules).
>
>This goal is much more important than anything else.
>
> Stefano.
[http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-general&m=86951
o do it rather
than "if" to do it ;-)
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Henri Yandell wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
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Therefor I still think Jakarta Commons should fix their naming scheme.
But that will have to be brought up there, not here.
It's completely impractical, and will hurt Jakarta immensely
e Commons and Incubator Project creation.
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For the incubator the mailing list is not yet ready, will be soon. :-)
I don't see a realistic proposal being made that renames all of the
Jakarta Project source code.
Why do you think I posted this message here? *grrrrr*
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[...]
I agree that what you say is the most sensible and correct way...
The reality is that this *will* create tensions and flamewars.
Like we're seeing on reorg@.
Then you&#x
Aaron Bannert wrote:
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 12:05:36PM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
The reality is that this *will* create tensions and flamewars.
Like we're seeing on reorg@.
Then you've seen nothing yet ;-)
Wait, you think that's normal?
Unfortunately it's wa
V. Cekvenich wrote:
I would like to see a DB PMC.
IIRC there is one, and it's in the initial phases.
The website is not ready yet http://db.apache.org/.
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Attached is a rehashed logo for Jakarta to mimic more the one on the
main Apache page, and explicitly state that Jakarta is an Apache project.
What do you think, should we use this instead?
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out exactly what he said.
Is any of this true? Was Jboss rejected from joining Apache?
Some history info:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=java-apache-framework&m=97567909732611&w=2
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Michael A. Smith wrote:
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Why not just decide to move the Jakarta Commons projects to Commons and
the Sandbox ones to Incubator?
This is not a proposal for a diktat, but a *suggestion* for Jakarta
Commons projects to take part of the Commons and
clearly shows that Jakarta is an Apache project.
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asing to the eyes. If you want a new logo it
should use a single font and be be cleaner than this.
Ok, let me see if I get it better in the next iteration.
On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 08:32, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
I've committed the new Jakarta logo based on the one of www.apache.org
i
s on site stuff, I'm not sure)
IMHO for such a thing we should basically all agree on it.
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you can get it from the font it would be
much better.
Tahome and Verdana and Lucida typewriter are similar, especially in the
top part of the "J", but it still isn't it...
(Not trying to make a big ordeal out of this, but let's get it right! =)
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Brian Ewins wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
James Taylor wrote:
I changed the "The Apache" font to one very similar to the "Jakarta
Project" one and deleted by hand the vertical anti-aliasing that was
present, to mimic the same thing in the current logo.
Does a
uy the font?
Hmmm, probably it should be legal...
Anyway, if we go with this version I can happily withdraw my objection.
:-)
I'll commit tomorrow if there are not other objections.
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http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/jakarta-site2/xdocs/images/jakarta-logo-blue.gif?rev=HEAD&content-type=image/gif
Can someone please push it live?
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Stefan Bodewig wrote:
On Wed, 06 Nov 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can someone please push it live?
I have manually updated the site about an hour ago, what else needs to
be done?
Sorr, the browser cache tricked me... again :-/
Oh, thanks btw :-)
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> On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
>
>>Thanks to the valid help of Brian Ewins
>>([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I have committed the revised new
>>versions of the logos, which should be fine now.
>>
>>If there are problems (i
#x27;d be happy
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ll move to rectify the situation.
Currently we should use the full version.
There will be a short version of the next 2.0 license that will be
equally protecting from a legal POV, but in the meantime use the full
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Ceki Gülcü wrote:
At 07:54 04.12.2002 +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Currently we should use the full version.
There will be a short version of the next 2.0 license that will be
equally protecting from a legal POV, but in the meantime use the full
version.
Why? What is wrong with a
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
At 11:06 04.12.2002 +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
IANAL and not the one to decide.
IIRC IIUC the board, &&|| board members have said to use the full
version till version 2.0 arrives.
Well, as far as I know, there is no permission to use a reference to
the
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
At 12:13 04.12.2002 +0100, you wrote:
Ceki Gülcü wrote:
At 11:06 04.12.2002 +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
[..]
You are free to take my word for it, or if you deem it necessary, go
ask directly and eventually report back.
Michael A. Smith actually went to the board
e bases.
In fact it should be open to allo:-D
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e it
- it sucks but with this and that it sucks less == I'm able to use it
- it's very good == I wrote it
- you should use it == it simply works, dunno why but I like it
- it rocks == I've never used it but it makes me salivate
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Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
James Mitchell wrote:
No JSP does indeed suck. It just sucks less with Struts.
LOL..ok, we'll leave it at that.
You gotta understand Andy, he's got his own language:
- it sucks == I don't get it
- the idea is good but implementation sucks
05/01/2003 10:57:21 AM:
[...]
What is up with the left hand side of the layout taking up ~45% of the
page?
http://studioz.tv/huge-margin.pdf
-jon
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/01/2003 09:00:24 PM:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is one of my least favourite features of this forrest skin.
Look at this version, which is a modified forrest skin, if it's better:
http://www.k
ts it would be
great! Then others too, but maybe one step at a time could help.
Maybe its fine as it is?
Your work is very much appreciated :-)
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