On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 14:22 +0200, Torsten Veller wrote:
> * "William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 10:29 +0200, Torsten Veller wrote:
> > > * "William Thomson (wltjr)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
&
using instead? I see what your talking about wrt to
chroots and etc. Not even sure that's relevant or needed anymore. Was to
correct some past issues and hopefully can be removed ASAP.
The pkg_config part might remain not sure there.
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Welcome hottie, I mean hoffie :)
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rver with every
> possible combination of USE flags every time I commit to it, at 45 minutes per
> build.
What about distcc? Sounds like we need to get you some more powerful
hardware to develop on or etc. Since xorg is a fairly major package.
Understandably hard to test every time, but ideally all sh
to
> deal with, and the user shouldn't ever see it.
Dang your better than most carpenters, hitting the nail on the head
repeatedly :)
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ly best for maintainers to be contacted before a bump or etc.
Not sure I would require it, depends on if one will be responsible for
their own actions or not. If not, then it's not right to bump without
maintainers knowledge and leave them to deal with any problems.
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the most professional type of error output. So the || dies are more
like a fail safe for devs to catch minor stuff like missing docs or etc.
QA stuff :)
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ith my hardware. Which is now ruffly 2-3 years old
Xpress200m. So I am sticking with ati-drivers, and only use radeon if
and when I have problems there. Which has been quite some time.
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On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 00:14 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Thursday 02 August 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:05 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > sounds good to me ... so to tie back to the source of the thread, crappy
> > > close
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:35 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > FYI, the patches in bug #183480 [1] allow one to use the most current
> > ati-drivers with a 2.6.22 kernel. As I am now while I am composing this
> > message. Having applied said patc
there ?
>
> There's an open-source driver for the r5xx stuff called the avivo
> driver [1].
>
> 1. http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=avivo/xf86-video-avivo.git;a=summary
Still leaves a gap, since the open source radeon driver is not fully
supporting R3xx to my knowledge much l
ers.
FYI, the patches in bug #183480 [1] allow one to use the most current
ati-drivers with a 2.6.22 kernel. As I am now while I am composing this
message. Having applied said patches and bumped ebuild locally. Just
needs to happen in tree :)
1. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=183480
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 20:09 +0200, federico ferri wrote:
> William L. Thomson Jr. ha scritto:
> >> This is for the very short
> >> term. I don't want to maintain a driver for hardware I don't own and
> >> never intend on purchasing.
> >>
&
h nVidia chipsets, and
nothing special, but nothing that old either. First time I have had more
problems with nVidia vs ATI.
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On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 22:52 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> i dont think he'll accept, but i dont see Flameeyes name yet ...
Fine then, I nominate the biggest flamer of them all, Flameeyes :)
PS
You have to accept, blood in blood out ;)
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ast decision is itself a form a admitting a mistake or
error. Or that trying something new didn't work as expected or etc.
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ly solved their problems by adopting moderation without
> completely alienating their communities.
With two lists we could potentially reduce a single unified bonfire into
two controlled burns :)
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On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 10:25 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote:
> William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > -core Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time
> > -core Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time
>
> No. -core should not eve
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summaries are required or etc.
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a lowly user - I am also.
FYI, every developer was a user at some point. In many ways they still
are. This by no means is intended to diminish, cut off, control, etc any
user input. That would effectively cut off any future recruiting
efforts. Which is not the idea at all.
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Internal Private List, Public R/O after period of time
-internal Internal Developers List, Public R/O
-devExternal Development List, Public R/W
That way -dev remains, we create -internal which all devs have to
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On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 19:51 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:44:03 -0400
> "William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To future devs and any new contributing users, they will see -dev as a
> > ml for developer interaction. The
lume on any list gets to a point where it's productivity
declines. Action should be taken. Which isn't motivated by anything
negative.
I have unsubscribed from lists in the past due to the amount of volume
and hardly being able to follow. Pure positive technical development and
etc discussions. Just to much ;)
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On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 10:35 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 10:14 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > What makes a developer only -dev list any different than developers only
> > having a voice on #gentoo-dev?
>
> It is a change from what we have
Those willing to put their neck on the line should be the
first stop, IMHO.
Simple misunderstanding miss-communication. :)
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On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 15:26 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:14:00 -0400
> "William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > What makes a developer only -dev list any different than developers
> > only having a voice
ers only
having a voice on #gentoo-dev?
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d able to post to -dev.
Either way very few in any position are allowed to retain all power,
privileges and etc after leaving the position. What ever it is. That's
not a elitist thing. That's just how things are. Doesn't make one better
than another, one first class or another sec
g people pay attention to portage griping in the first
place. Which I would assume most don't :) Unless they have to.
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--live flag to quickpkg to
pull files from live file system, or from defaults stored else where or
etc.
Although not sure I like that idea due to extra bloat. But that's one of
the few downfalls I see to that approach. I am sure others might see
some I am not.
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ry to popular opinion, I am going to go with ^ student and not
stupid :) We will save the stupid till after a few commits ;)
Ali, hope you brought your sense of humor with you.
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Deep Blue when you need it?! ;-)
Wasn't built for playing chess, it's purpose has already been served,
42. Now nothing left to do but watch TV :)
Welcome aboard Ali from Istanbul, not Constantinople.
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it, and/or is willing to updated it. Either way with it's age, I
doubt it will ever be a candidate for a Java vm on Gentoo.
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Since no flames were started over something technical. Let me see if I
can toss in some gasoline and get the bonfire going.
On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 23:30 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote:
> William L. Thomson Jr. napsal(a):
> > This has sparked the following open bugs, and countless more closed
pg-1. The symlink is a hack to try to avoid needed both.
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and forcing one or the
other. Which is not a complete solution, and makes our offerings less
than all other mainstream distros.
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;s nature.
No more from me on this. I have done enough on bugs, and me taking this
to -dev is my final contributions. I leave it up to others to decide and
resolve. I was over my limits months ago on this :)
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On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:03 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 10:59:09 -0400
> "William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Policy says to go with upstream's naming. This is, after all, why we
> > > have categories.
> &
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 08:49 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 17:23:58 -0400
> "William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On that note I would hope the vim/vi peeps would rename.
> > app-vim/ant
>
> Policy says to go with up
al ANT ( dev-java/ant ), not
the vim menu plugin so vi can invoke ant or etc.
IMHO app-vim/ant should really be app-vim/vim-ant or something other
than just ant.
Personal pet peeve of some time now, just lacked the occasion to mention
it till now ;)
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uld not recommend doing it unless there is a
reason and need like on the Java front.
Sorry for length.
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inesses, as
well as mine depend on it. Joined upstream fb-dev ml but spent most time
playing middle man with sekretarz and fb-dev ml. You can email me
directly or hit me up on irc to proceed with this.
At min would like to get you a copy or etc of what I have so far for
2.0. It's a mixture of t
E in 06 we were handing out cds we
were burning with hand written labels. So for any events were we give
out livecds and etc. Would make a big difference at least in first
impressions for many, IMHO.
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Last rites for media-gfx/opcion
Last upstream release was 1.1.1, released April 24, 2004.
The package has been masked, and will be moved to Java junkyard overlay
after 30 days pass. Unless someone cares about this package, needs it,
uses it, and/or is willing to updated it.
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Last rites for media-sound/jsynthlib
Last upstream release was 0.20-beta, released March, 2005.
The package has been masked, and will be moved to Java junkyard overlay
after 30 days pass. Unless someone cares about this package, needs it,
uses it, and/or is willing to updated it.
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Last rites for net-libs/jaimlib
Last upstream release was 0.5, released April 26, 2003.
The package has been masked, and will be moved to Java junkyard overlay
after 30 days pass. Unless someone cares about this package, needs it,
uses it, and/or is willing to updated it.
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Last rites for dev-util/j
Last upstream release was 0.21.0, released September 24, 2004.
The package has been masked, and will be moved to Java junkyard overlay
after 30 days pass. Unless someone cares about this package, needs it,
uses it, and/or is willing to updated it.
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pe.com/comprod/development_partners/plugin_api/
That's all I got :)
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does go off topic and remains on list. Please
update subject to reflect it being off topic. Like has already taken
place with this thread ;)
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ee.
>
> another one i had mentioned earlier:
> - a time frame on moving gentoo-core to public archives ... two years ?
That's seems like a reasonable time frame. Any information would be
outdated at that time, and not have any effect over current issues.
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't and with which driver, in-kernel, or external..
Then we can say grep kenrel driver sources, or etc for that chipset ID,
and go from there :)
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ferent chipsets that both "should"
work with that driver. If the driver is aware of all chipset ID's.
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ren't yet in the kernel tree.
All valid reasons, and of course like other things not in kernel. Not
much choice there.
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Java junkyard overlay
after 30 days pass. Unless someone cares about this package, needs it,
uses it, and/or is willing to patch/updated it.
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the other XML's we provide) Have
> you ever tried?
No clue on extension, and no I have not tried. Haven't had the need just
yet.
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On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 14:13 +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Samstag, 17. März 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > IMHO I think it should be up to the package maintainer how close they
> > want to follow upstream. With regard to development, progress, testing,
> > qa, fee
jk, I have put into tree before
official release has been stable for me. Idea is to find out if it's
stable for others as well. So while it's official status cause it to
fall into experimental category. Most have no issues, and bugs do not
tend to be very obvious or commonly run into.
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it was I would either p.mask, or put in an overlay.
Although I feel things tend to get the greatest exposure and chance of
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On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 03:11 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:25:17 -0400
> "William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hierarchy would be the following
> >
> > snapshot -> dev -> build -> alpha -> beta ...
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 21:23 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Friday 16 March 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > Well that's the problem. When I use say _pre instead of _dev it gives
> > off the wrong impression to users judging package by it's name. Since
> >
they don't understand.
Understandable for sure. Thus not really putting any sort of time frame
on implementation. Maybe EAPI=1 or beyond. Up to others that would
implement it. Just was tossing it out there, providing some feedback.
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/or coming from a developers space. Not main project
release page or etc.
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Or at least that's my thoughts on it. Time for others thoughts, much
less those that will make it so. Not expecting it to get done or be
available any time soon. Would be suffice if they were just accepted and
planned for inclusion at some point.
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moved from tree, and added to the Java junkyard overlay :)
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progress
Changes in overlays
Split ant stabilization progress
Java virtuals
Summary of the meeting along with log.
http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/java/wiki/March_2007_Summary
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tating
that. I try to provide information to inform them, and let them come to
the realization on their own, that they were wrong.
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new dev ~7months. So please do not set me on fire or
stake me.
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ike is not the same as no strikes.
(Neutral comment, not on any side)
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Most all are going that direction
if they have not already.
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ackages fall under this category as well?
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emented yet, but there
might be some efforts in that direction.
Anyone else have info on this?
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upstream switching to it.
Also because of this, Tomcat only requires a JRE at runtime, not a full
JDK anymore ;)
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For those that just can't get enough around the holidays.
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 10:11 -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 09:53 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
> > William L. Thomson Jr. napsal(a):
> > > On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 20:20 +0100, Enrico Weigelt w
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 09:53 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
> William L. Thomson Jr. napsal(a):
> > On Sat, 2006-12-23 at 20:20 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> >> I had some talks w/ tomcat folks
> >
> > Where? Who? Just curious.
>
> There, you'll love it :P
ill be further releases from
upstream. It's got lots of legacy code and likely deps.
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On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 20:06 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Saturday 09 September 2006 19:46, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > Don't want to be misleading or anything :)
>
> aka he's a lamer
I bet you say that about all the guys that turn ya down ;)
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Hailed for like 10 yrs in CA, currently in Jacksonville, FL my home
town.
Don't want to be misleading or anything :)
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