Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/09/2013 04:13 PM, William Hubbs wrote: All, as you probably know by now, udev-197 has hit the tree. This new version implements a new feature called predictable network interface names [1], which I have currently turned off for live

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-09 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 01/09/2013 10:33 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Daniel Campbell dlcampb...@gmx.com wrote: So long as users retain the choice of keeping eth* or wlan*, no complaints from me. I (and others) came to Gentoo to get away from systemd, and this smells of a systemd-ism

Re: [gentoo-dev] removing the server profiles...

2013-01-16 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/16/2013 08:12 AM, Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Panagiotis Christopoulos pchr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 00:36 Wed 16 Jan , Andreas K. Huettel wrote: several people have pointed out to me that the 10.0 - 13.0

Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-15 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 05/15/2013 08:41 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: Are we realizing that in order to keep systemd out of our way, we're currently writing and maintaining drop-in replacements for the features that systemd is already providing in an actively maintained state? openrc-settingsd was the first thing

Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-20 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 05/19/2013 01:05 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: I don't see how this will avoid the issue of a limited amount of inodes. That is what I usually run out of before the disk is full when storing lots of

Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-22 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 05/20/2013 10:34 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:03 AM, Daniel Campbell dlcampb...@gmx.com wrote: On 05/19/2013 01:05 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: I don't see how

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making systemd more accessible to normal users

2013-05-23 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/23/2013 01:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013 16:39:25 -0500 Daniel Campbell dlcampb...@gmx.com wrote: I'm curious as to why you consider users who want to save disk space (openrc or systemd, or other packages, it doesn't

Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)

2013-05-26 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 05/25/2013 02:53 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 05/25/2013 02:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/25/2013 05:14 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: But if a co-maintainer pushes through a change that I oppose, then working together becomes quite

Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)

2013-05-26 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/26/2013 01:55 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Sun, 26 May 2013 01:24:03 -0500 Daniel Campbell dlcampb...@gmx.com wrote: On 05/25/2013 02:53 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: We are moving too quickly on bug #448882 ([Tracker] packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-26 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 06/24/2013 05:54 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: On 24/06/2013 07:30, Pavlos Ratis wrote: That's why I'd like to propose Gentoo Hangouts. Gentoo Hangouts will be Google+ video Hangouts(video calls) held by teams or developers independent of a team. The main goal is to have the teams introduce

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/07/2013 10:16 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: Also, I think we should stop spending a lot of time trying to keep it working with openrc, we simply don't have resources to do that at the moment (even Debian/Ubuntu people are stick with systemd-204 because they don't have resources to keep logind

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/08/2013 01:21 AM, Duncan wrote: Alex Alexander posted on Thu, 08 Aug 2013 05:51:38 +0300 as excerpted: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: On 08/07/2013 09:14 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber wrote: Gnome Herd decided

Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge

2013-08-13 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 08/13/2013 12:21 AM, heroxbd wrote: Dear Fellows, Canonical is raising money by pushing their concept of Ubuntu for Android[1][2]. The idea is to put GNU environment (esp. Ubuntu userland) in parallel to Android to drive the external HDMI output with X11 protocal, so that desktop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-19 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 10/19/2013 10:32 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: Due afterstep and desktop-wm herds removal: net-mail/asmail x11-plugins/asapm x11-plugins/asclock x11-plugins/ascpu x11-plugins/asmem x11-plugins/asmon x11-plugins/astime x11-wm/afterstep - looks that was proxy-maintained sys-libs/libixp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-19 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/19/2013 11:10 AM, Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote: On 10:43 Sat 19 Oct , Daniel Campbell wrote: On 10/19/2013 10:32 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: ... x11-wm/fluxbox I'm not a developer (but have a completed dev test that doesn't know where

Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-04 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/03/2013 10:15 PM, yac wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 11:02:31 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Afaik there is no official way to update gentoo, is there? It's always been emerge -avuND world [snip] Is this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Official way to do rolling update (Was: Re: Releng breakage with respect to move from dev-python/python-exec to dev-lang/python-exec)

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 11/04/2013 03:46 PM, Duncan wrote: Martin Vaeth posted on Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:17:49 + as excerpted: Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: and the default is oneshot I would always recommend to put -1 into EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS; you can still use --select if you really want a new package

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 11/05/2013 10:39 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 11/05/2013 09:49 AM, mingdao wrote: Flameeyes wrote the following blog post concerning this issue: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2012/10/may-i-have-a-network-connection-please and the link gives me a (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask

2013-11-13 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/13/2013 09:16 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 13/11/13 09:55 AM, Thomas Kahle wrote: On 11/13/2013 03:30 PM, Duncan wrote: Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:37:51 -0500 as excerpted: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Thomas Kahle

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-26 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 12/25/2013 08:43 AM, Duncan wrote: Alice Ferrazzi posted on Wed, 25 Dec 2013 15:38:42 +0900 as excerpted: On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote: rc-update del vixie-cron default /etc/init.d/vixie-cron stop emerge -C vixie-cron emerge cronie rc-update

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2014-04-14 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/14/2014 02:08 AM, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: Hi all! There are a list of packages up for grabs. I cannnot test anymore some of them, or i stopped use them. app-text/fbreader dev-libs/liblinebreak net-wireless/madwimax

Re: [gentoo-dev] The state and future of the OpenRC project

2014-06-07 Thread Daniel Campbell
and cc pchrist@g.o so we can coordinate things. I still have my ebuild test file floating around as well. I hope this doesn't come off as spammy; I'd honestly like to contribute and keep choice alive in the init system space. Sincerely, Daniel Campbell

Re: [gentoo-dev] The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-13 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/13/2014 08:00 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Denis Dupeyron calc...@gentoo.org wrote: Rich, if I may have a suggestion, it would be that instead of meddling with projects that have been doing their best with what

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=gudev introspection removal from virtual/udev tomorrow'ish

2014-07-25 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 07/24/2014 02:22 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: gentoo-x86 has been converted to use virtual/libgudev. big thanks to _AxS_ who helped me to get it finally done. that means we will be removing compability USE flags gudev introspection from virtual/udev tomorrow'ish (only waiting for

Re: [gentoo-dev] My masterplan for git migration (+ looking for infra to test it)

2014-09-16 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 09/16/2014 01:56 PM, hasufell wrote: Luca Barbato: On 15/09/14 01:21, Patrick Lauer wrote: On Sunday 14 September 2014 15:42:15 hasufell wrote: Patrick Lauer: Are we going to disallow merge commits and ask devs to rebase local changes in order to keep the history clean? Is that going to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: My masterplan for git migration (+ looking for infra to test it)

2014-09-16 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/16/2014 05:18 AM, hasufell wrote: Ulrich Mueller: ChangeLogs are aimed at users Did any1 ask them if they care? If the tree switches to git and there's an option within Portage/emerge to fetch via git instead of rsync, then I'd rather

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2014-11-23 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/23/2014 07:17 PM, hasufell wrote: packages up for grab: I didn't change metadata.xml, nor bug reports for any of those, because I was too lazy. If you grab one, please do so yourself. app-admin/clustershell app-admin/durep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2014-11-27 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 11/26/2014 03:15 AM, Yixun Lan wrote: On 21:08 Sun 23 Nov , Daniel Campbell wrote: I'd like to take x11-misc/spacefm if a developer is willing to allow me to proxy-maint until I become a developer. update metadata.xml, using your email found in bugzie. and current no bug opened

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2014-12-03 Thread Daniel Campbell
of these their futures are unclear.. H On 11/27/2014 04:51 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: On 11/26/2014 03:15 AM, Yixun Lan wrote: On 21:08 Sun 23 Nov , Daniel Campbell wrote: I'd like to take x11-misc/spacefm if a developer is willing to allow me to proxy-maint until I become a developer. update

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-devel/gcc::mgorny up for testing

2014-12-07 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/07/2014 04:37 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, developers and users. As some of you know, the toolchain packages in Gentoo suffer from lack-of-sanity issues and their maintainers are completely unwilling to improve things. I have finally

Re: [gentoo-dev] ffmpeg vs libav choice of default

2015-02-05 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/04/2015 04:43 AM, Mike Auty wrote: It's fine to have disagreements, but airing them in front of the users like this is not an ideal situation... As a user and prospective developer, why? Transparency is important to open communities like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Things one could be upset about

2015-01-19 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/2015 12:44 PM, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 18:33:45 +0300 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 14:45:51 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: The problem isn't the constants, though. The problem is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: qa last rites -- long list

2015-01-07 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/07/2015 04:19 PM, Jonathan Callen wrote: On 01/07/2015 12:15 PM, Matt Turner wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 7:57 AM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 06:49:56AM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: 150106 William Hubbs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policies for games dirs, new group gamestat for sgid binaries

2015-02-21 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/21/2015 01:35 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2015, Daniel Campbell wrote: When this becomes more widespread, what action are users urged to take in order to migrate to the new system? Should our everyday user account be removed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] Rendering the official Gentoo logo / Blender 2.04, Python 2.2

2015-02-23 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 02/23/2015 02:29 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 23 February 2015 at 22:11, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org mailto:sp...@gentoo.org wrote: I have streamlined those into ebuilds and a dedicated overlay Thanks! So whoever needs to render Blender files from 2003 again

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policies for games dirs, new group gamestat for sgid binaries

2015-02-20 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/19/2015 06:19 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: Hi all, As decided by the Council in its 20140812 meeting [1], every developer is allowed to commit and maintain games ebuilds. Furthermore: | There is consensus amongst council members that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Becoming a Gentoo developer?

2015-04-13 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 04/12/2015 05:17 AM, Yanestra wrote: Hi, I am long time user of Gentoo and I tinker with the idea of becoming Gentoo developer. I am a software developer by profession, but I am not quite sure if I should involve with Gentoo ebuild development. To be honest, I have not the slightest

Re: [gentoo-dev] New website: Where the .... is the ....ing documentation link?

2015-04-04 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 04/04/2015 09:42 PM, Duncan wrote: TL;DR: (1) Please consider either making Documentation a top-level-menu link (preferable), or at least change Support to Support and Documentation. (2) On the documentation lander page, add a one big list link to a browser-keyword-searchable list of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item for net-firewall/shorewall all-in-one package migration

2015-04-04 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 04/04/2015 01:09 PM, Thomas D. wrote: Hi, some of you maybe know or already have noticed that the net-firewall/shorewall* ebuilds were re-integrated into a new all-in-one ebuild for easier maintenance. The package is proxy-maintained.

Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Daniel Campbell
esults from a specific directory or package? I'm aware we could pipe git log to grep, but that seems hackish, like git has a better way to isolate log entries. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: ChangeLog

2015-11-02 Thread Daniel Campbell
show 3a8d9727 That'll show where Manifests were updated, variables changed in ebuilds, and so on. - --- So the workflow is basically `git log -- category/package/`, find a commit that looks interesting, then `git show commit-id` to look at what it did. It's actually much better than changelogs,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] EAPI 6 draft for review

2015-10-20 Thread Daniel Campbell
detail that doesn't make my idea any good, please tell me. It doesn't seem like trouble from where I'm looking. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 -BEGIN

Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: Future Support of hardened-sources Kernel

2015-10-20 Thread Daniel Campbell
p. > > Refs. [1] https://grsecurity.net [2] > https://grsecurity.net/announce.php > Looks like a good write-up to me. Concise and clear, with the URL for those who care enough about the fiasco. However, does this mean the hardened kernel package must stay in ~arch since it's technically t

Re: [gentoo-dev] tcltk herd empty

2015-10-09 Thread Daniel Campbell
n I get one I'll have more time to work on Gentoo. I'll add myself to herd and alias, if we have one. When I get the chance, I'll learn more about tcl/tk. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Better way to direct upstream bugs upstream?

2015-08-30 Thread Daniel Campbell
to stubborn upstreams that think Gentoo is the problem instead of their build scripts or packaging preferences? Do we have a policy regarding difficult upstreams? - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091

Re: [gentoo-dev] Better way to direct upstream bugs upstream?

2015-08-30 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/30/2015 12:54 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: On 30 August 2015 at 19:20, Daniel Campbell z...@gentoo.org wrote: Quick question: what is RT? RT is rt.cpan.org, for which every cpan distribution that gets published gets a free bug tracker

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] dev-rust category

2015-09-06 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/06/2015 02:00 PM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: > Hi, > > On 09/05/2015 11:23 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> On 09/05/2015 01:04 PM, Matthew Thode wrote: > >>> I think cargo should probably go in dev-util wit

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] dev-rust category

2015-09-05 Thread Daniel Campbell
being somewhat cumbersome, it makes more sense to do it once it's clear Rust has an ecosystem going rather than catch stragglers in its infancy. For platform-specific things like compilers, dev-lang/ may be a better candidate. Just my 2¢. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo D

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

2015-09-07 Thread Daniel Campbell
th multiple other devs and a script has been written to work on git. It just hasn't had everything ironed out yet. Most notable being the cronjob that does the e-mail, based on what we see. :) Give it some time. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnu

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] dev-rust category

2015-09-07 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/07/2015 05:56 AM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: > Hi, > > On 09/07/2015 07:28 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> On 09/06/2015 02:00 PM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: >>> Hi, >> >>> On 09/05/2015 11:23 PM, Daniel Camp

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support

2015-09-09 Thread Daniel Campbell
a maintainer that matters more than suggestions. If the GNOME team has a solid recommendation for supporting both GTK2 and 3, I'll read it. But for now, defaulting IUSE to gtk3 and allowing the user to set gtk2 is the best of both worlds imo. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support

2015-09-10 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/10/2015 01:47 AM, hasufell wrote: > On 09/10/2015 08:21 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> >> For me to not support gtk2 in the spacefm ebuild would be >> providing a package inferior to upstream. > > That sounds like s

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support

2015-09-11 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/10/2015 11:26 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:21 PM, hasufell <hasuf...@gentoo.org> > wrote: >> On 09/10/2015 08:15 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >>> >>> tldr: If the problem is USE flag

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE="gui"

2015-09-11 Thread Daniel Campbell
introduce this ugliness > called REQUIRED_USE. Instead of saying "gui.gtk" we say > "REQUIRED_USE="gui? ( || ( gtk ... ) )". And it will get worse. I > wonder when people start realizing that. > So are you suggesting maybe we come up with namespaced USE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-09-16 Thread Daniel Campbell
's > no one anymore, so maybe this point can be omitted) > As a developer interested in adhering to the PMS, do we have a tool to check conformance beyond repoman? How would virtuals be handled with static dependencies? - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support

2015-09-10 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/09/2015 03:37 AM, hasufell wrote: > On 09/09/2015 09:24 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> >> x11-misc/spacefm supports multiple toolkits as well. > > It shouldn't. Gtk3 is stable and gtk2 and gtk3 USE flags should be >

Re: [gentoo-dev] www-client/chromium gtk3 support

2015-09-10 Thread Daniel Campbell
t version needs to be chosen. Defaulting to gtk3 falls in line with gnome-team's opinions while still offering gtk2 support. I think limiting it to *only* gtk3 would be doing our users a disservice. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://key

Re: [gentoo-dev] Request to add ~> atom prefix operator on Portage.

2015-09-13 Thread Daniel Campbell
new feature. If SLOT is setup correctly between ebuilds, you could check to be sure it's a specific SLOT. So in your case, pkg-1.0.2[a-z] would be slotted with e.g. pkg-1.0.2g:1.0.2. Anything depending on it would use `pkg:1.0.2`, and the pkg-1.0.3a ebuild could use SLOT="1.0.3" and

Re: [gentoo-dev] tcltk herd empty

2015-10-02 Thread Daniel Campbell
out tcl/tk but it's been an idle curiosity of mine. Are there any particularly important packages that run on them? - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATUR

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-19 Thread Daniel Campbell
he disparate group types into a single group. They all serve the same function: to tie a group of people to a Single Point of Contact to make it easier to communicate. herds.xml and extant aliases do that for us. Most of the work's already done; it just needs some tweaking. No tech discussion's co

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFI: A better workflow for github pull requests

2015-09-19 Thread Daniel Campbell
developer who's experienced in maintaining and setting them up. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJV/dC9AAoJEAEkDpRQOeFwT

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH dtd] herds: Remove no-longer usable element

2015-09-19 Thread Daniel Campbell
ed along the lines of, "This element was obsoleted as of -mm-dd," so readers (maybe new devs, even) understand that it's not meant to be used anymore. Just my 2¢. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFI: A better workflow for github pull requests

2015-09-19 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/19/2015 05:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 09/19/2015 05:16 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> >> We'd just need a developer who's experienced in maintaining and >> setting them up. >> > > Has anyone ever

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-19 Thread Daniel Campbell
eloper can be a grueling process, so I understand that some don't have the time or motivation, and still want to help out. So perhaps we could have contributors who wish to be project members pass our ebuild test, or some other litmus test to prove themselves, like a developer proxying them or some

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFI: A better workflow for github pull requests

2015-09-23 Thread Daniel Campbell
Gerrit instance while hooking into the filesystem. Allowing users to open accounts in order to post bugs, etc just isn't a great idea, imo, and duplicates the effort that already exists in Bugzilla. Maybe it'd be smarter to find a way to `git-am` patches from Bugzilla. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer Op

Re: [gentoo-dev] Team leader(s) election meeting

2015-09-23 Thread Daniel Campbell
am, but I am somewhat interested in learning more about how it works. Which parts in particular need the most attention? I'd be willing to help out if it's anything I have a shot at understanding. :) - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr:

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: automatically mailing people on pkgcheck problems with their packages

2015-12-08 Thread Daniel Campbell
when I come across something that breaks my deptree, and I don't want my packages to break things, either. No complaints here, as long as it's clear what the screw-up is. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] News for Gentoo CI and pull request CI

2015-12-14 Thread Daniel Campbell
e something besides repoman that developers should be adding to their workflow to reduce the odds of issues? I care about building a better tree and writing better builds, but I haven't found much in the way of a "Gentoo QA Guide" that would help a developer like me not make mistakes like that one is

Re: [gentoo-dev] repo/gentoo.git, or how committing is challenging

2015-12-13 Thread Daniel Campbell
one other person helped me out, too. I went to #gentoo-keys and you guys went over it step by step. It looks like my key is still good, too. If you need any help with the project, Brian, I wouldn't mind contributing. Specifically the documentation. I'd just need an idea of where to start. - -

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages to grab

2016-01-08 Thread Daniel Campbell
people who helped me become a developer, so I really appreciate what you did for me and what you do for Gentoo! Here's hoping you get back to us soon! :) - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: dev-lang/go prefix patch hard coding a path to a binary

2015-11-25 Thread Daniel Campbell
seem like the saner, standard route to go about things. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWVghVAAoJEAEkDpRQOeFwS/oP/1dat4yDPBxcy

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New project: Crypto

2015-11-25 Thread Daniel Campbell
> Please consider this an official announcement and request for > comment related to establishing a new project. > > References: [0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Crypto > > Sounds good to me. I have a passing interest in crypto, so where do I sign? :) - -- Daniel Cam

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: adding sbin directories to PATH for all users

2015-11-25 Thread Daniel Campbell
ed in sbin for > some fun reason yet work for normal users. > > But well, I'm the weird one wanting to be able to check how much > free space I've got without going through hoops. > Maybe I'm missing something, but `df` is in /bin. Do you use something else to determine free space? -

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 6 portage is out!

2015-11-19 Thread Daniel Campbell
, that we need to start using > it prior to stable Portage supporting it. It's a potential mess for > a huge portion of our users. > > > That said, I'd like to extend my thanks to Micha? for working on > this. > > - -- Dan

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EAPI 7] The future goals for PORTDIR, ECLASSDIR and... LICENSEDIR?

2015-11-22 Thread Daniel Campbell
blishing a LICENSEDIR that would > contain copies or symlinks to all needed licenses, both in source > and binary installs. > > [snip] > I have no opinions on the others since I'm still rather inexperienced, but LICENSEDIR seems like a sane solution to the licenses problem and

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 6 portage is out!

2015-11-20 Thread Daniel Campbell
ldn't feel comfortable writing EAPI 6 ebuilds on packages with any stable dependencies. At least for the time being; I wouldn't want to disturb stable users. But once EAPI 6-compatible portage is stabilized, I see no issue. - -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

2016-06-02 Thread Daniel Campbell
whether the flag would be useful: it > will. The question is: can it be implemented efficiently... > > To play devil's advocate, can we get a citation on "users don't want to care"? Which users? Does Gentoo have a lot of users who don't care, or does it attract a more passi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

2016-06-02 Thread Daniel Campbell
g to > optimize Gentoo for those people. > Who are you speaking for with "we"? The Gentoo GNOME team? Upstream GNOME? Some employer who's hiring someone to introduce these flags to Gentoo? Outspoken users who have (strangely) only spoken to a few developers with their concerns? The council's not

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

2016-06-02 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 06/02/2016 02:55 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Daniel Campbell <z...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> To play devil's advocate, can we get a citation on "users don't want to >> care"? Which users? Does Gentoo have a lot of users who don't car

Re: [gentoo-dev] Repo mirror & CI project news: 'stable' gentoo branch, new repo stats, faster CI

2016-06-05 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 06/05/2016 02:05 PM, james wrote: > On 06/05/2016 12:15 PM, Daniel Campbell (zlg) wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> On June 5, 2016 9:04:26 AM PDT, "Michał Górny" <mgo...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> Hello, everyone

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-09 Thread Daniel Campbell
Enigmail, but this is the information I'm seeing: > > "EXPIRED KEY Good signature from "Alexander Berntsen <berna...@gentoo.org> > Key ID: 0x705073B5 / Signed on: 09/06/16 10:48" It's his signing subkey that's expired: 0x541A4F01 According to Enigmail, it expired Apr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default DOCS for einstalldocs and HACKING file

2016-06-08 Thread Daniel Campbell
ar method >> for doing this, for exactly this reason/purpose?? > >> MJE > > Some way to append docfiles would be very welcome IMO. > > Agreed. We can already add on to other arrays or lists, why should DOCS be any different? -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council Council: call for agenda items for June 12 meeting

2016-06-11 Thread Daniel Campbell
es.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/41e09d1ddc8b30abb9f9d21d205b7b82 >> [10]:https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/eecad370248118c474a0d819fa7f3576 >> > > > I can understand wanting to avoid a conflict of interest, but I really don't see the trouble in suggesting your ideas hit the agenda. The council can always choose "we don't want to decide on this yet". At least, that's what I understand. -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-11 Thread Daniel Campbell
maintain these >> systems, I don't think its fair to overburden the already stretched >> Infra guys (no offence, guys! you're doin a great job). > > Agree. Gentoo is fantastic. > > Alec > -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

2016-06-03 Thread Daniel Campbell
I variable. How will that be supported in ebuilds? With a gui.eclass? I'm almost to the point with this discussion that we just need a few blatant, no-op test ebuilds and a portage patch or something to demonstrate how it would be handled. Code talks a lot better than we do. -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-11 Thread Daniel Campbell
idea has merit. Are there others who would rather not use the fora or IRC? -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-11 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 06/11/2016 01:58 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 06/11/2016 10:53 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> On 06/11/2016 07:48 AM, james wrote: >>> [snip] >>> >>> Good/Bad idea, posting proxy-maintainer questions to gentoo-user? >>> (recall irc do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council Council: call for agenda items for June 12 meeting

2016-06-11 Thread Daniel Campbell
perspectives a chance to percolate. Based on what I've read in past council discussions, the council is likely to have 'the full picture' in mind and can often point out weaknesses in proposals, which can only help them in the long run. -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-14 Thread Daniel Campbell
ed in layman as "not vetted" but still available, and then some sort of process or mechanism to go from "unvetted" to "vetted", and if they're lucky, "official". It would require less shuffling of resources, as well. -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP K

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-13 Thread Daniel Campbell
ct, the effect has been so large that sunrise has effectively > stagnated, and nobody noticed it for months. Now that people have > noticed it, they/we are simply recognizing the change in usage after-the- > fact and debating the most useful way to shut down just the one single

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Daniel Campbell
ty... > > grep -i -w webp /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc > > ...returns the same list *PLUS* > > dev-lang/php:vpx - Enable webp suppoprt for GD > > ?!?!?!?! Is that a typo? > No, libvpx is what's used to produce webp/webm things, afaict. So in the case of php, t

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-08 Thread Daniel Campbell
y want people who are serious about being a developer instead of treating it like a checkmark on a resume. (Other devs are free to correct any of the above, but that's what I've gotten out of becoming a developer) If you're looking to be recognized and serve your ego, every developer gets a developer bug and an announcement on gentoo-project. Whatever you end up doing, I wish you luck in the process. Don't let a few live IRC interviews keep you from contributing or joining our ranks. There are plenty of devs I don't see on IRC, and plenty more who almost never post on the ML. They do their work quietly and slip under the radar. They're no less worthy of thanks. Just my 2¢. -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-08 Thread Daniel Campbell
> > ymmv. So, I can take it either way, but building something > gentoo-centric, without github, is very appealing too. > > > > James > > There are some of us against GitHub and/or other commercial outfits, so that's not a problem. We offer some mirrors on GitHub,

Re: CoC (Was: Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project))

2016-06-09 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 06/08/2016 11:21 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Hi! > > On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 22:07:06 -0700 Daniel Campbell wrote: > >> There are some of us against GitHub and/or other commercial outfits, so >> that's not a problem. We offer some mirrors on GitHub, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Masterplan for solving LINGUAS problems

2016-05-31 Thread Daniel Campbell
es directly to L10N, then somehow mask them out for other packages. Or the reverse: leave L10N="en_US" or something, and somehow enable other languages in that specific package. Is there a package-level option for this? Users can set their locales in /etc/locale.gen, and that handles thin

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Masterplan for solving LINGUAS problems

2016-05-31 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 05/31/2016 10:31 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 05/31/2016 05:49 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >> Hello, everyone. >> >> Since the previous thread doesn't seem to have brought any good >> solution to the problem other than stopping to (ab)use LINGUAS >> as USE_EX

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

2016-05-27 Thread Daniel Campbell
y see what the big deal was, and was left wanting. None of the toolkits are really that great, but GTK3 in particular feels wrong on a desktop computer. It's probably great on a phone or tablet, like GNOME itself. -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] git-r3.eclass: Support EGIT_SUBMODULES to filter used submodules, #497164

2016-05-27 Thread Daniel Campbell
continue > + fi > + fi > + > # skip modules that have 'update = none', bug #487262. > local upd=$(echo "${data}" | git config -f /dev/fd/0 \ > submodule."${subname}".update) > Looks good to me. Great idea actually, since some projects like app-text/pelican ship with submodules and I just wrote a live ebuild for it. -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

2016-05-27 Thread Daniel Campbell
e may exist under heavy consideration, > especially in cases where the toolkit usage is complex and may have > some issues for some, but in general gtk3 support is deemed good by > upstream. Of course upstream is going to say support is good. Consider the source. If they only write the to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

2016-06-01 Thread Daniel Campbell
ts > of the GUI are available, additional flags may provide a more > fine-grained choice of them. > Pretty much nailed it as far as I'm concerned. -- Daniel Campbell - Gentoo Developer OpenPGP Key: 0x1EA055D6 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net fpr: AE03 9064 AE00 053C 270C 1DE4 6F7A 9091 1EA0 55D6 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

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