> Go to the menu and toggle "View Menubar". How did you miss this?
(Gimp 1.3.4) I had the menubar turned on I expected to still have the
menubar in fullscreen mode.
- Alan
(had to disappear for a few days been busy with other stuff)
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On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 06:48:08PM +0200, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > users. The dialog is great and much better than a html help page for
> > example, but it's presented at a time people will have no clue what it
> > means.
>
> Perhaps we should show it on every startup then ?
It
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 19:25:22 +0200
Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The attitude I keep encountering is a strong resistance to progress.
>
> Sorry, but removing features looks more like a regression to me.
>
I agree, but if on the second window there is 2 buttons, one to skip the
Hi,
Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You are telling me that most of the programs in Gnome and KDE are
> wrong and the GIMP is right. I will go and read the GPL again and I
> will read the GPL FAQ and see if I can figure out where is this
> explicit requirement to display the license.
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Sven Neumann wrote:
> The point is that the GPL explicitely asks to present the user with
You are telling me that most of the programs in Gnome and KDE are wrong
and the GIMP is right.
I will go and read the GPL again and I will read the GPL FAQ and see if I
can figure out w
Hi,
Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The information about the files that are installed in the user
>
> The dialog tells you what the names of the files that are going to be
> installed but not their purpose or roughly how much space they will take.
You need to play with the dialog a l
On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:50:14 +0100 (BST)
Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The user does not need to know about the General Public License (it does
> not apply unless you want to distribute modified versions).
The GPL also applies to unmodified programs. For example, users may not
give c
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Alan Horkan wrote:
> I am all for giving users the information the want to know but when a user
> first starts the GIMP I want to give them the infromation the _need_ to
> know. That should include enough information to tell people where they
> can find out more if they reall
In hindsight I should probably ask on the user lists what they think of
the installer.
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Sven Neumann wrote:
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117010
> > Sven closed my bug report suggesting removing or reducing the user
> > installer. I have moved it to NeedInfo,
Hi,
Sven Neumann wrote:
> Dave Neary wrote:
> >> And page 5 (monitor calibration) should definitely be skipped. Get
> >> the resolution my default from the monitor, as we do, and allow
> >> manual calibration in the preferences.
>
> The question here is "Why?". I don't see any good reason to s
Sven Neumann wrote:
I would agree with you if we would force the user to calibrate her
monitor. But please note that you can go thru the full user
installation process by hitting the default button 5 times. Now
compare this to the installer of whatever windows software. It's just
silly to say th
Hi,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann )> writes:
> Just extracting this info into the help pages would probably help, since
> people are NOT interested in customizing rc files when they have never
> seen te program running, since they simply can't know what they should
> customize.
Good p
Hi,
"Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What about "Welcome to the GIMP! Configuration files has been installed
> into [wherever they were put]. You may want to take a look there; there
> are plenty of possibilities for configuration." (or something along those
> lines).
That wo
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 11:23:57AM +0200, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> we should just drop a number of files in the user directory. Unlike
> the GNOME developers we don't expect our users to be stupid. We put a
One need not be stupid to not understand the dialog, though. Even
experien
Hi,
Raphaël Quinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> And page 5 (monitor calibration) should definitely be skipped. Get
>> the resolution my default from the monitor, as we do, and allow
>> manual calibration in the preferences.
>
> Yes, why not.
The question here is "Why?". I don't see any good
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 11:23:57AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
> The information about the files that are installed in the user
> directory is about the most important part of this dialog. The
> installation log may be unneeded in case of success but I don't think
> we should just drop a number of f
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:17:12 +0200, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alan Horkan wrote:
> > I think the user installer could be shortened or even removed entirely.
> > Distributions like Knoppix already skip it entirely.
[...]
> I agree for the most part. We don't really need to tell the use
Hi,
Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117010
> Sven closed my bug report suggesting removing or reducing the user
> installer. I have moved it to NeedInfo, as I hope with more information
> you can be convinced it is worth reopening.
I did not c
Alan Horkan wrote:
> I think the user installer could be shortened or even removed entirely.
> Distributions like Knoppix already skip it entirely.
>
> At the very least the second and third pages about the files that are
> getting installed could be removed
> At most all you would need say is one
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117010
Sven closed my bug report suggesting removing or reducing the user
installer. I have moved it to NeedInfo, as I hope with more information
you can be convinced it is worth reopening.
I think the user installer could be shortened or even removed en
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