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2003-08-06 Thread Alan Horkan
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Raphaël Quinet wrote: > I don't think that it could be done in time for 2.0, but it would have > been nice to use a Photoshop-friendly menurc as the default for 2.0 and > insert the following stuff in the user installation step: I would be inclined not to set the

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-04 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 21:24:51 +0200, "Branko Collin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4 Aug 2003, at 15:43, Alan Horkan wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Simon Budig wrote: [...] > > > Uh, making all the long time GIMP users grumpy because the shortcuts > > > they are used to use do no longer work and th

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-04 Thread Branko Collin
On 4 Aug 2003, at 15:43, Alan Horkan wrote: > On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Simon Budig wrote: > > Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:51:13 +0200 > > From: Simon Budig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes. > > &g

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-04 Thread Alan Horkan
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Simon Budig wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 00:51:13 +0200 > From: Simon Budig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes. > > David Neary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > The point, as I see

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-04 Thread davide pesenti
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 02:59:20 +0100 (BST) Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so how do you scroll sideways (using the wheel)? using the Control key? i can zoom with Shift+weel, vertical pan with Weel an horizontal pan with Contro+Weel. Is it this you're talking about? bye davide -

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-04 Thread davide pesenti
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 03:02:57 +0100 (BST) Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not officially. In fact there seem to be people actively resisting it who > insist on being differnt just for the sake of being differnt. i think most of the useful funcionlities given by lots of program get lost

RE: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-04 Thread Austin Donnelly
> > GIMP zooms on Shift-wheel since some early 1.1 version. > > Can the gimp be made to zoom in/out on the cursor instead of on the > centre of the image. We have a bug open on this: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79384 Austin ___ Gimp-d

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-03 Thread Alastair Robinson
Hi, On Monday 04 August 2003 12:25 am, Simon Budig wrote: > There now is an option in the Preferences. I am not sure if this is > any different than setting it manually in the GTKrc, but if the > preferences toggle does not work it is a bug... :-) Ah yes, that works. Thank you :) All the best

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-03 Thread Manish Singh
On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 01:25:55AM +0200, Simon Budig wrote: > Alastair Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Sunday 03 August 2003 11:51 pm, Simon Budig wrote: > > > Uh, making all the long time GIMP users grumpy because the shortcuts > > > they are used to use do no longer work and they have

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-03 Thread Simon Budig
Alastair Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sunday 03 August 2003 11:51 pm, Simon Budig wrote: > > Uh, making all the long time GIMP users grumpy because the shortcuts > > they are used to use do no longer work and they have to reconfigure > > them to the old default "costs nothing"? > > Is

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-03 Thread Alastair Robinson
Hi, On Sunday 03 August 2003 11:51 pm, Simon Budig wrote: > Uh, making all the long time GIMP users grumpy because the shortcuts > they are used to use do no longer work and they have to reconfigure > them to the old default "costs nothing"? Is it even possible for an end user to do this any mor

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-03 Thread Alan Horkan
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Phil Harper wrote: > >On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Phil Harper wrote: > > > > > >Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Not officially. In fact there seem to be people actively resisting it who > >insist on being differnt just for the sake of being differnt. > > > >Clone first a

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-03 Thread Simon Budig
David Neary ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The point, as I see it, is that there's no reason *not* to follow > the leader when it comes to keybindings - it makes migration > easier for people used to the other app, and makes your app more > attractive as an alternative, without removing any functiona

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-03 Thread David Neary
Phil Harper wrote: >From: Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Follow standards, even defacto standards unless there is a damned good > >reason to do otherwise. > > make every window manager and desktop just like windows, and every graphics > app just like photoshop, every vector app just like illu

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-03 Thread Phil Harper
From: Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Phil Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes. Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 03:02:57 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Phil Harper wrote: > >Alan Horkan <[EMA

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-02 Thread Alan Horkan
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Phil Harper wrote: > >Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > so how do you scroll sideways (using the wheel)? > > > is this the same keybinding as Photoshop? > > > >Dunno what PS uses but GIMP uses Ctrl. > is there some plan that everything in GIMP should fall inli

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-02 Thread Phil Harper
From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: gimp developer list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes. Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 09:48:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-02 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > so how do you scroll sideways (using the wheel)? > is this the same keybinding as Photoshop? Dunno what PS uses but GIMP uses Ctrl. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-01 Thread Kevin Myers
PM Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes. > dOn 01-Aug-2003, Kevin Myers wrote: > > Helps if you have a 4D "ball" mouse (like I do), instead of only a 3D > > "wheel" mouse. :-) > > > > Seriously though, mainly responding because I want to make

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-01 Thread Patrick McFarland
dOn 01-Aug-2003, Kevin Myers wrote: > Helps if you have a 4D "ball" mouse (like I do), instead of only a 3D > "wheel" mouse. :-) > > Seriously though, mainly responding because I want to make sure the Gimp > developers know that there ARE mice out there with built-in miniature track > balls (2D)

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-01 Thread Kevin Myers
an Horkan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "gimp developer list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes. > > On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: > > > > This functionality was recently

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Horkan
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: > > This functionality was recently added to Dia, you could probably take a > > look and substantially borrow the same code. > > GIMP zooms on Shift-wheel since some early 1.1 version. damn, another inconsistancy. so how do you scroll sideways (using the

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-01 Thread Toby Smith
On Sat, 2003-08-02 at 05:57, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Using the wheel for zooming seems like a good idea to me. > > > > Please note that I very specifically said that the wheel should by default > > scroll the page up and down and that Zooming m

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-08-01 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Using the wheel for zooming seems like a good idea to me. > > Please note that I very specifically said that the wheel should by default > scroll the page up and down and that Zooming must use a modifier and > should be Ctrl+Wheel (dont even get me s

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-07-31 Thread Alan Horkan
On 31 Jul 2003, Jay Cox wrote: > > While we are on brushes I am wondering what kind of information needs to > > be stored in a Brush file and why does it need a special file type of its > > own? > In general it needs some pixel data, spacing information, a hot spot, > and whatever dynamic parame

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-07-31 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > Jay Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> You have a point, I dont much like the proposed solution though. > > > > Any other solution would probably be too complex to implement at this > > point in the release cycle. > > We finally got rid of the

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-07-31 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Jay Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> You have a point, I dont much like the proposed solution though. > > Any other solution would probably be too complex to implement at this > point in the release cycle. We finally got rid of the palettes being copied to the users dir and now you want to

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-07-31 Thread Jay Cox
On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 12:37, Alan Horkan wrote: > Welcome back. > > On 30 Jul 2003, Jay Cox wrote: > > > RECOMMENDATION: gimp should copy (or ln -s?) the system brushes into > > the users folder when it is launched for the first time. Single > > user systems will never miss the meg o

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-07-30 Thread Alan Horkan
Welcome back. On 30 Jul 2003, Jay Cox wrote: > RECOMMENDATION: gimp should copy (or ln -s?) the system brushes into > the users folder when it is launched for the first time. Single > user systems will never miss the meg or two this takes. On > multiuser systems the admins can p

Re: [Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-07-30 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 30 Jul 2003, Jay Cox wrote: > This was the first chance I've had to spend quality time with gimp in > several years. After this long separation from gimp, I feel that my > eyes are pretty fresh. Whho! I think I speak for all of us old fogies when I say, "Welcome back!" Rockwalrus _

[Gimp-developer] A fresh pair of eyes.

2003-07-30 Thread Jay Cox
I first loaded up gimp 1.3.17 not long after my grocer and I split up. I had just gotten over a serious illness that I won't bother to talk about, except that is had something to do with the miserably weary split-up and my feeling that everything was dead. This was the first chance I've had to s