Re: [Gimp-user] creative ideas for blending a cropped + rotated image?
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:49 PM, David Gowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony, Exactly what you want to do is not clear to me. Trying to 'fake' the missing bits of photo is, while possible, a very time consuming choice. I think you would be better off making it seem like the missing bits are intentional, as in this example: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/neota/edits/press-lg-weekly_redux-ed2.png I made this by: 1. rotate appropriately. 2. apply 'value propagate', propagating opacity to the left and right only, repeatedly until no transparent pixels are left. 3. remove the streak that appears near the top of his head by a bit of painting. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/neota/edits/press-lg-weekly_redux-ed3.png is another idea, made simply by a bit of strategic painting. It emphasizes the focus on the book. Thank you David! I just had a good idea from you examples...I can tie into the UI and perhaps have a little note area below the image, that is tied into it, like a static tooltip (be it png) describing the content of the image. -- Anthony Ettinger 408-656-2473 http://anthony.ettinger.name ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] creative ideas for blending a cropped + rotated image?
I have a photograph of a client that I would like to rotate so the angle is not crooked, but I end up with a V shape after rotation...does anyone have any creative ideas for blending something in to get a full rectangle? This is the image in question...I can't crop it down to a square because I would loose the book he's holding, and that's the point of the web site: http://holocaustsurvivor.info/img/press-lg-weekly_redux.png Looking for ideas, thanks. -- Anthony Ettinger 408-656-2473 http://anthony.ettinger.name ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A different font for the first letter of each word
I haven't used gimp yet on my new machine, but if I recall correctly, you cannot modify one letter in a string like in PS. You may however be able to make it Camel Cased... On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Santwana Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am new to Gimp and cannot figure this out. I clicked on text icon and keyed in the words. However, I would like the first alphabet of each word to be larger than the rest of the words. I am not able to do this. Even when I highlight just the first letter, and increase the font size, all of the letters increase in size. Can anyone tell me how to fix this? thanks, Santwana Home: 612-821-8759 Cell: 612-961-1344 Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail(R)-get your fix. Check it out. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Anthony Ettinger 408-656-2473 http://anthony.ettinger.name ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] macports.org gimp2 and Leapoard
Has anyone installed gimp2 from macports on leapoard yet?
Works fine with Tiger, but all kinds of errors with dependencies when
I run $ port install gimp2
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@pets.each do |dog| {
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Re: [Gimp-user] digital camera photo settings
Thanks, downloading exif now :)
On Feb 9, 2008 8:06 PM, Michael J. Hammel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 14:04 +1100, Owen wrote:
Perhaps you want the exif data
Make sure you have the exif libraries install, and at the prompt, type
# exif blah.jpeg
I was wondering - doesn't GIMP 2.4 support EXIF data now? I had a JPEG
with some EXIF data in it that I could read with GQView but I couldn't
find a way to read the data in GIMP. Is there one?
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@pets = Pets.find_all_by_species('dog')
@pets.each do |dog| {
if dog.name == 'Farley'
dog.nick = 'Sir Barks-A-lot'
elsif dog.name == 'Bonita'
dog.nick = 'Princess Boo'
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[Gimp-user] digital camera photo settings
Does anyone know if JPEG stores the settings from a digital camera and
how to read them?
ie: ISO setting, etc.?
I like to experiment with settings, would be nice not to have to write
each one down.
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@pets = Pets.find_all_by_species('dog')
@pets.each do |dog| {
if dog.name == 'Farley'
dog.nick = 'Sir Barks-A-lot'
elsif dog.name == 'Bonita'
dog.nick = 'Princess Boo'
else
dog.nick = 'Doggie?'
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[Gimp-user] suggestion: hide all/reveal all junk
I tend to immediately create a new view of a work at original size -- and having to constantly uncheck all the boxes show boundary, show grid, show this/that/the other thing is rather a pain. Can we get a hide/show all visual cues at the bottom of the View menu? -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 var (bonita, farley) = new Dog; farley.barks(very loud); bonita.barks(at strangers); http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume/ http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] suggestion: hide all/reveal all junk
i saw teh full screen -- but i use it for icon dev...and i just want a original size view as I draw zoomed in. Perhaps there's a way to configure and save views? On 10/13/07, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 00:36 -0700, Anthony Ettinger wrote: I tend to immediately create a new view of a work at original size -- and having to constantly uncheck all the boxes show boundary, show grid, show this/that/the other thing is rather a pain. Can we get a hide/show all visual cues at the bottom of the View menu? May I ask why you are creating such an extra view and if it is important for you to have it available next to the image you are working on? For the purpose of quickly checking the image without all the junk, as you call it, we have introduced the full-screen view (just hit F11). This view has an extra set of view options which can be configured independently from the view options for the normal display. Sven -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 var (bonita, farley) = new Dog; farley.barks(very loud); bonita.barks(at strangers); http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume/ http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Forensic analysis using gimp
On 9/18/07, Kevin Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucas Prado Melo wrote: How can I identify (using gimp) if a photograph has been faked? It would depend on how good a job was done in faking the image. The basics involve using a high zoom factor to see the pixels. Look for artifacts created by a poor blend of the added in (faked) part of the image and the original. Some possible indications of faked images are sudden changes in colour in pixels or pixels with colours that are quite different from those nearby (especially if it appears several pixels along a curve or a line), and differences in lighting direction or intensity. -- Cheers! I would be interested in learning more about high-level techniques for analysis as well. If anyone finds a resource. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 var (bonita, farley) = new Dog; farley.barks(very loud); bonita.barks(at strangers); http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content
saw that the other day -- very cool. On 8/29/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an amazing video describing an image resizing algorithm that removes (or adds) pixels based upon their importance to the subjecto of the photo. Can this be implemented in The Gimp? Apparently it will soon be a part of Photoshop. The video is here: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/28/adobe-hires-co-inventor-of-image-resizer-technology/ Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/gimp.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 var (bonita, farley) = new Dog; farley.barks(very loud); bonita.barks(at strangers); http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A GIMP book
Been waiting for this one, thanks! On 8/22/07, DJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gimp-user, A friend sent me a link to a new GIMP book, The Artist's Guide to GIMP Effects to be published this month. There was a reference to it in the Javascript book he was reading from the same publisher. The sample tutorial looked good. http://nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=gimp Just thought I'd pass it on. -- __ DJ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 var (bonita, farley) = new Dog; farley.barks(very loud); bonita.barks(at strangers); http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] About the replies to this list
On 6/6/07, Mark Szymanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 3 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 19:24:08 -0400 From: Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] About the replies to this list To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii * Victor Domingos [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-05-07 19:12]: But when I do a replay-all, the author will get two copies of the message, since he/she is both in the To: and the Cc: fields right? (he's in the Cc: among the mailing list subscribers, I mean) I confess I usually don't use the replay-all button because I guess that it would have that effect. Get a mail client that has a reply-to-list function. Maybe even answers questions after they are asked, insead of before :^ It seems different lists have a different behavior. I use Thunderbird, and in replying to this list, it put gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU in the To: field without including any others in the CC: fields. On another list, I get the Sender in the To: field and the list address in the CC: field. I simply click the cursor in the To: field, backspace it all the way out with one last time to delete the To: field, drop to the CC: field and change it to To: and it works perfectly, no sending two emails to the sender just one to the list. Yes, it is a little more trouble, but you'd be surprised how easy it is to make it a habit. For what it is worth, I forward my email to gmail, and it seems to handle it fine. Reply adds the user in the To: field and the list in the CC: field, I for one appreciate getting it directly to me, as it is easier to recognize a response to my question. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 var (bonita, farley) = new Dog; farley.barks(very loud); bonita.barks(at strangers); http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] About the replies to this list
On 6/5/07, Victor Domingos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I have a suggestion regarding this mailing list. Everytime I want to reply to a post, I press the button Reply. However, the reply-to field is always set to the post author's email address, not the mailing list address. In these few early days, I guess I have sent several messages by mistake to some users, when I meant to send them to the list. Maybe it would be a better idea to make gimp- [EMAIL PROTECTED] the default reply-to address, like what we can find in other similar lists. What do you think about it? Victor Domingos http://lojamac.com/blog I agree, I hate it when lists go to individuals by default, although just now, it automatically did it correctly for me :) -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 var (bonita, farley) = new Dog; farley.barks(very loud); bonita.barks(at strangers); http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP on Mac
I use gimp-2.3 from the development build under fink or ports (i forget which one). It has all the features you want. the only problem I *hate* is that the X11 will not take control of Gimp when I click on it once...i have to click twice to activate a tool...very annoying. On 5/23/07, Axel Wernicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Victor, Am 24.05.2007 um 01:22 schrieb Victor Domingos: Hello! I am currently using the GIMP on an Apple computer, more specifically a Powerbook G4. I runs quite well, but I feel like it's a little slow. One of these days, I tryed to run it with Ubuntu Linux, in the same machine, and it seemed to run a lot faster. And I wonder now if there could be another GIMP version or build for Mac that would be more optimized for this platform. Does anyone know about any? To tell you about other builds, you should have told us where you got your GIMP version from? There are a couple of prebuild packages for OS X out there - e.g. GIMP.app at http://gimp-app.sf.net . The most optimized solution however might be to build GIMP on your own machine. To do so I'd recommend you have a look to darwinports at http://www.macports.org I know that there is a GIMP-related project named Seashore. It has a clean interface, but it is meanless to me, as it lacks most of the features I like to use... Seashore has nothing to do with GIMP, except that some of the basic technologies that where developed for GIMP were used for a new application. Concerning features is Seashore much closer to Paint than to The GIMP. One other question... Is there a completely universal Mac version? Some weeks ago, I tryed to run the GIMP in a MacBook Pro (Intel C2D) and there were no Filters, and the cursor had a funny aspect Does anyone here use the GIMP under MacOS X in the new Intel Macs? Which version? And does everything work ok? GIMP.app (see above) is AFAIK a universal package. Also building GIMP on your own machine gets you a i386 binary version. Right in the beginning (after Apples surprising switch to the dark side) there where indeed some more or less minor problems. Both, the yellow colored cursor as well as the missing filters are known phenomenon. One can be fixed in the GIMP preferences, and the other was (most likely) due to some bug in the GTK libraries and could be worked around by special environment variables. I'm using GIMP at one of the very early MacBook Pros, build it with a little help of darwinports and do not have any problems you described any more. Happy GIMPing, lexA Thanks! Victor Domingos http://lojamac.com/blog ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user --- Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wish about The GIMP
It already is...try upgrading to 2.3 On 5/24/07, Fabien3D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! I often work with The GIMP to process my own photos, but I also sometimes use Paint Shop Pro X. It provides an interesting feature : when photos were vertically shot, it rotates them automatically when opened by the program. Is this feature available anywhere in the general options or where can I put it in a wishlist ? Thanks ! -- Fabien3D http://fabien.nguyen.free.fr http://creafab.free.fr ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Acquiring multiple screenshots?
On 5/23/07, Rikard Johnels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 19:49, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: Hello. I need to take multiple screenshots conveniently. -A button or a ket shortcut which causes the acquire of the whole screen -Saves directly to the file in the specified format; the screenshot would not be opened for editing -If PNG format, no Save as PNG dialog should popup -Names the files 0001.png, 0002.png, etc.; no filename dialogs; initial directory and start number hardcoded in the script I need this in MS Windows. A script would be nice and fastest way to have the feature, but GIMP must find the script from my own directory as I don't have the admin privileges. GIMP here is 2.2.1. Juhana OOps.. To fast.. Missed the I need this in MS Windows. part... -- It's been awhile, but I used to use Screengrab I think for windows to take scrolling screenshots. If not, try googling for something similar. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How do you select the inside of a circle?
I would suggest putting your circle on a separte transparent later, then filling it with black. Then right-click on layer, alpha-to-selection, then shrink by one, then create anew transparent layer, then put the gradient on that layer, which will be the inner part of the circle. On 5/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How do I get a selection of the entire inside of an outline of a circle? For example, I have a transparent background, and I draw a circle in black (it looks like this O , minus the quotes). I use the Select Region By Color and click on the black outline of the circle. If I click Select - Invert, I get the outside of the circle, as well as the inside. My ultimate goal is to put a gradient inside the circle, but I have to get inside first :-) Thank you. -- __ DJ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] (no subject)
look into convert man convert I use it for bash converting images and creating thumbnailsif the camera put the orientation data in the jpg, then you could look at that and decide whether or not to rotate it. I found GUI image browsers to be too slow to get anything done, and in most cases, modifying the image destroys it...at least with the ones I've tried. Always make a backup before mass-modifications. On 5/16/07, Alex Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't really a Gimp question, I don't think, but I hope it's appropriate here. I just bought a point-and-shoot, and unlike my dSLR, it doesn't have gravity switch to keep track of the orientation of the photo. My old workflow was to run all the pictures through jhead after they came out of the camera and that lined everything up. Now I have to look at each picture individually and decide to rotate it or not. Gthumb almost gives me a nice way to do this, presenting me with a page of thumbnails that I can select from, and then rotate the selected ones all at once. Trouble is, you then have to go through and individually save each image to get it to take. Does anyone know of a tool that that will make this as painless as possible? Thanks. -- --alex http://alexfeldman.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] letter spacing tool missing?
Inside the text tool, the letter spacing setting is missing after I re-installed. I'm using 2.2.12 on Gentoo -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 release
On 3/20/07, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bettina Lechner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: when it finally comes to the 2.4 release will gimp suddenly be available for mac and windows aswell? or will there be a timegap between the release of 2.4 for linux and the rest (other platforms)? and if yes: how long will the compilation (is this the right word for it?) for the other platforms take? The gimp team usually just releases source packages of the gimp. Since we do not have different versions of the source for the different platforms technically the 2.4 release is available immediately for all platforms. However, this requires that you build gimp yourself. If you depend on pre-built binaries it might take a while until somebody provides a package. For the different Linux distributions a lot depends on the philosophy behind the packaging, but I expect Gimp to show up quickly in the different distributions. For windows it probably won't take that much time, although this depends on the amount of time available to its maintainer. For Macs I am unsure if there is a maintainer testing the current code and providing ready made packages. It probably will take a bit longer until someone can provide a package. So, the answer is it depends and the exact timeframes are unclear. I hope this helps, Simon What about if I use darwinports or fink -- I assume there is a delay until those package installers are updated? or do they refer to the downloadable source? -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Starting Gimp-2.3
I had this problem as well, try staring it from the CLI with: gimp-2.3 --verbose -d -f (no data, no fonts) On 3/4/07, Jozef Legeny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: normally you should use the startup script listed on gimp.org site for launching #!/bin/sh PATH=/opt/gimp-2.3/bin:$PATH export PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/gimp-2.3/lib export LD_LIBRARY_PATH /opt/gimp-2.3/bin/gimp-2.3 $@ (provided you installed to /opt so you'd have to change that) -- LEGENY Jozef ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.3 with Fink on OSX?
I installed the latest gimp-2.0 with fink on Mac OSX...is there a development version of the latest Gimp - 2.6 available? I thought I had installed the gimp2-dev but this 2.0.6 is the version that was installed. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.3 with Fink on OSX?
Thanks, I switched to the darwin ports version and got 2.3.14 installed :) The fink version crashed when I tried to use the text toolplus it was an older version. Axel Wernicke wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anthony, gimp-app.sf.net is an excellent source to grep a prebuild an prepackaged version of the most recent stable version of GIMP. To get hands on an unstable version is a bit more complicated. I'm running one on OS X, build with an unreleased ports file for darwin ports (http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/getdp/). Unfortunately some more important packages like gtk2 are not available in a recent version in fink, but in darwin ports only. If you want to be one of the brave, I can send you the ports file by mail. Greetings, lexA Am 28.02.2007 um 18:55 schrieb Anthony Ettinger: I installed the latest gimp-2.0 with fink on Mac OSX...is there a development version of the latest Gimp - 2.6 available? I thought I had installed the gimp2-dev but this 2.0.6 is the version that was installed. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user - --- Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.3 with Fink on OSX?
One thing I can't seem to do is create an alias on the Dock in OSX that will open gimp-2.3 Axel Wernicke wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anthony, gimp-app.sf.net is an excellent source to grep a prebuild an prepackaged version of the most recent stable version of GIMP. To get hands on an unstable version is a bit more complicated. I'm running one on OS X, build with an unreleased ports file for darwin ports (http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/getdp/). Unfortunately some more important packages like gtk2 are not available in a recent version in fink, but in darwin ports only. If you want to be one of the brave, I can send you the ports file by mail. Greetings, lexA Am 28.02.2007 um 18:55 schrieb Anthony Ettinger: I installed the latest gimp-2.0 with fink on Mac OSX...is there a development version of the latest Gimp - 2.6 available? I thought I had installed the gimp2-dev but this 2.0.6 is the version that was installed. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user - --- Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF5erpR9mXLVsAbiQRAvfrAKCCR52jqRoklnXncSdZqKpKIzOw9gCcDM7B hAQGiCjkIbpr/puJxEp9++g= =N5nd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Remove white patches at corner
On 2/23/07, Sudheer Satyanarayana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Our business logo was designed by a professional. At this point of time, the person who created the logo is not available to edit the image. I have posted the images at the following link: http://binaryvibes.in/test/test.php The image has white patches around the circumference and around the alphabets BINARY. When I reduce the image to lesser size, 100x144 it looks very awkward. I have been trying to remove those white patches for two days. I haven't been successful. Can anybody tell me how to remove those white patches and make the image neat? I'm novice in Graphics editing. GIMP is the only graphics editing software I have on my Linux computer. With Warm Regards, Sudheer You could try selecting only the purple area, invert the selection, and then clear all. Or zoom in real tight, and erase those offending pixels. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11
On 2/21/07, Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for helping me The problem is that I am not a computer expert just a Mac user that can not copy images from another program to GIMP. But yes... I will be glad in helping the GTK project. I just do not know how. Orlando Figueiredo ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.OrlandoFigueiredo.com On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:05AM, Axel Wernicke wrote: Hi, the answer is: never, because not GIMP is bound in no way to X11, but to the GTK. A stable GTK is unfortunately for Apples OS X only for an X11 backend available right now. But may be you can help the GTK project to finish their work on a native backend for OS X and help this to free GIMP from the X11 slavery on Apple OS X. Thank you for listening. lexA X11.app is a bit cumbersome, and only available on the Mac install CD. That being said, it's better than nothing at this point. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Pan Tool keyboard shortcut
On 2/21/07, Dave M G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gimp Users, So far as I can tell from looking at online help and experimentation with the interface, the only way to access the pan tool is to use the middle mouse button. I have a pen tablet, and the button that acts as a middle mouse button is rather uncomfortable to use. I'd like to access it with a keyboard shortcut, but the pan tool isn't listed among any existing keyboard shortcuts, nor is it listed in the commands available in Preferences - Interface - Configure Keyboard Shortcuts. How can I get keyboard access to the pan tool? View--Navigate Window opens up a dialog box, in which you can use your arrow keys to pan around. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] X11
On 2/21/07, Orlando Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No doubt that X11 is better then nothing. But GIMP deserves better then X11. Don't you think so? Thanks for helping me. I don't really see what the problem is with using X11.app (other than GIMP for Mac is a version or two behind). -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Select tool locked at fixed size
take a look at the options for the selection tool. On 2/19/07, Thomas H. George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a new user I somehow pulled up a box that allowed me to fix the size of the select rectangle. Now I can't undo it. Please help Tom ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] The gimp character ?
On 2/17/07, Scott Bicknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, February 17, 2007 11:11 am, Jerry Baker wrote: I've been curious... What is the gimp character ? Is it based off of some kind of animal, or did someone just come up with him/her... Some of the splash screens have shown a full body, but mostly I just see the image of the icon... Wilber, the GIMP mascot... was created by Tuomas Kuosmanen (tigert) http://www.gimp.org/about/linking.html That's all it says there about it. Others may know more. Good to see IE7 finally supports PNG. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] missing operations on Mac/WinXP
I've installed Gimp on my Mac OSX and WinXP, and I've noticed a few things are missing that are present in the Linux version. 1) letter-spacing in the text tool 2) Bringing up the color palette and saving a color when using the eye-dropper. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] problem saving as png
On 1/23/07, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 23 January 2007 23:47, Anthony Ettinger wrote: On 1/23/07, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * A [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-23-07 20:31]: [...] and thus it most likely IS a FF or Linux issue. i.e. the people not seeing it correctly must have either: a) a setting issue in FF or Linux (display) or: b) using a version of FF or Linux (display driver) with that issue more likely, they have configured FF or their X display incorrectly, probably FF. I'm suspecting my X server or questionable nVidia driver or my new monitor is responsible...anyway, it seems not a gimp issue, but I figured I'd ask anyway. Just to make sure I'm saving the image correctly, this is my process: 1 layer: with text 1 background (alpha channel removed): color: #99cc00; hhmm?? if you want the text, without the surrounding background to show up over the green bg of the page, why not just save it witha trasnaprent background? Just turn off the visibility of the background layer before saving. When I save as .png, I check the save gamma, Actually, checking the save gamma optin is a good candidate for the color difference to show up at all!!! The problem is _all_ about gamma correction. You should e tried with9u tit already. UNcheck save background-color, NP. this doe snothing, but zero out tthe transparent area and check the last item: dither transparency from background. Uncheck this - you don't want dithered transparency, you wnat true transparency! This worked everywhere but IE6. If i leave the bg color intact, it dithers inproperly in FF. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] problem saving as png
On 1/23/07, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger wrote: On 1/22/07, Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/22/07, Scott Bicknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 22 January 2007 4:46 am, Anthony Ettinger wrote: I've been through this before, I usually just change the bg of the image to the one i'm using, but with #99cc00; as my body bg, I cannot for the life of me, save that same color. I'm trying to figure out what you are talking about. I created an image and filled it with the color you specified, then saved it as a png. No problem. I opened it in Gimp to see if there is some problem with that color in png's and Gimp. Again, no problem. Can you describe exactly what you are doing and point to an example? Create an html page with background-color of #9c0; then do the same with the image in GIMP, and save as PNG. I'm seeing color variation. I made a test case: http://chovy.dyndns.org/gimp/test/green.html I see no problem at all on XP with FF2, Opera 9 or IE7, they all look fine on your page (i.e. same colour for image and backgoround). However, I remember I had a similar problem many years ago with a Macintosh. I think it was related to Gamma correction. Apples had (and probably still have) a different gamma setting, and this was creating a difference then (probably because my PNG did not contain the Gamma information then). Check that your PNG contains the Gamma information, and that your browsers can use it. Best regards, Olivier. Thanks, but I've done it every which way from hell and back, and still looks off in FF/linux. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] problem saving as png
I've been through this before, I usually just change the bg of the image to the one i'm using, but with #99cc00; as my body bg, I cannot for the life of me, save that same color. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] problem saving as png
On 1/22/07, Scott Bicknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 22 January 2007 4:46 am, Anthony Ettinger wrote: I've been through this before, I usually just change the bg of the image to the one i'm using, but with #99cc00; as my body bg, I cannot for the life of me, save that same color. I'm trying to figure out what you are talking about. I created an image and filled it with the color you specified, then saved it as a png. No problem. I opened it in Gimp to see if there is some problem with that color in png's and Gimp. Again, no problem. Can you describe exactly what you are doing and point to an example? Create an html page with background-color of #9c0; then do the same with the image in GIMP, and save as PNG. I'm seeing color variation. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] problem saving as png
On 1/22/07, Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/22/07, Scott Bicknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 22 January 2007 4:46 am, Anthony Ettinger wrote: I've been through this before, I usually just change the bg of the image to the one i'm using, but with #99cc00; as my body bg, I cannot for the life of me, save that same color. I'm trying to figure out what you are talking about. I created an image and filled it with the color you specified, then saved it as a png. No problem. I opened it in Gimp to see if there is some problem with that color in png's and Gimp. Again, no problem. Can you describe exactly what you are doing and point to an example? Create an html page with background-color of #9c0; then do the same with the image in GIMP, and save as PNG. I'm seeing color variation. I made a test case: http://chovy.dyndns.org/gimp/test/green.html -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] problem saving as png
On 1/22/07, Jeffrey Brent McBeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:41:30AM -0800, Anthony Ettinger wrote: I made a test case: http://chovy.dyndns.org/gimp/test/green.html Looks like an IE6 bug. Firefox and Opera both show it as the same color. Not on linux, FF is doing the same thing. Opera and Konq look ok. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] problem saving as png
On 1/22/07, Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 1/22/07, Jeffrey Brent McBeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:41:30AM -0800, Anthony Ettinger wrote: I made a test case: http://chovy.dyndns.org/gimp/test/green.html Looks like an IE6 bug. Firefox and Opera both show it as the same color. Not on linux, FF is doing the same thing. Opera and Konq look ok. Are you sure this is not some setting in FF sinc you made that image a link? When you open that image in Gimp and compare that with that webpage, does it in Gimp look like background or the foreground of the webpage? Matthias The link doesn't have any effect on it. I added a link so I could show a border around it when hovered. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Green on Green
On 1/22/07, Jim Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, for what it is worth, and I don't suppose that is much, on a pretty nifty Sun monitor using FF on Linux, I cannot see the box until I mouseover. The colors are precisely the same. Whatever the problem is, it isn't GImp's. Thanks Jim, I'm installing FF 2.0...as that seems to be the problem browser for me. I'm very surprised that 1.5 isn't handling .png correctly. -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] problem saving as png
On 1/22/07, Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The link doesn't have any effect on it. I added a link so I could show a border around it when hovered. You can have this effect with any HTML element. You don't need a link for that. Matthias That was for IE -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp doesn't respond to mouse in image area, at all
On 12/20/06, Gerry JJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Some time ago, the Gimp stopped responding to my mouse in the image window. In other windows and on menus the mouse works fine (ie I can select brushes and such and use the interface without problems), but in the image window (or more precicely, the canvas area) it's as if the mouse doesn't even exist. All kinds of clicks are ignored, the rulers doesn't show the position of the cursor, and the position in the lower left also isn't updated (it is set once upon entering the window, but after that it's dead). My tablet still works fine, but not being able to use the mouse for anything is somewhat annoying. This originally happened out of the blue one day while using Gimp 2.2.11 (I unfortunately have no idea what caused this to happen). I tried upgrading to 2.2.12 and then 2.3.13, without success. I also deleted the ~/.gimp* directory in the hope that regenerating the config would fix the problem, but no. No matter what I do, I can't make the Gimp recognize the mouse in the image window. The mouse isn't anything special, and it used to work with the exact same X config I've got now. I haven't changed the xorg.conf file in several months. The Gimp is the only application with this problem. This is on a dual-core amd64 processor in 64-bit mode (haven't tried 32-bit), Linux kernel 2.6.18, Xorg 7.1. Does anyone know what might be causing this, and how to fix it ? Just curious, have you tried using different tools and get the same result? -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
I tried both, but since I'm using GIMP all the time i foundthe photoshop interface mostly chaotic. But I'm sure it must be the same for people who pass from PS to GIMP. Most people are complaining about the amount of windows the GIMP opens, but then virtual desktops handle this problem with ease and even turn it into an advantage. As for learning PS or GIMP... i wonder how many students can afford to buy PS and also how many will really use all the tools that are in PS and not in GIMP. (apart adjustment layers, they are great and I wish they were in GIMP) Speaking about Gimpression, it could be taken as a copy of the MS Expression at the time being. I think it is a great name, but people tend to exaggerate when it comes to stealing. I used to not like gimp when I first switched...but after spending the last few weeks intensely going through tutorials, et. al. I'm quite familiar with the interface now - and will never go back to PS. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/17/06, Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Gowers wrote: On 12/18/06, *Leon Brooks* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. Today. What about in 3 years' time? I like the proposed alternate name far better than the current name, being that it is both punny and literal. I believe you'd have to work pretty hard to get such a change accepted, 'cause mainly of name recognition. Something else everyone needs to remember is Gimp is actually an acronym (GNU Image Manipulation Program) vs a chosen name. Peace... Bring out The Gimp -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/18/06, David Gowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/18/06, Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bring out The Gimp How many people do you really think have seen that movie? For example, English is my native language, and I've never heard this movie reference until it was brought up repeatedly on this mailing list -- this is the third thread I have encountered so far in which one or two people say 'this is icky and bad' and most of the others either express that they don't care or that they've never heard of such a way of using the word gimp; I still have never seen or heard a reference in real life to Pulp Fiction or 'gimp'. I think that a name change *could* attract some sorely needed developers, and users, too. If a movie reference is the reason you would like it changed.. I think your perception is lacking. In my case, I just find 'gimp' to be bland -- it's no fun to pronounce, it doesn't bring an image immediately to mind, it's non-obvious what it does, and it is not engaging (sillily or otherwise); on all these metrics I-Mage is superior.) I like GIMP...it throws people off, usually resulting in my explaining the software to them, which is basically a sales pitch on my end. I say keep it - true to many open source software packages that have abnormal names. As a developer I tend to take packages called The Greatest *Whatever* Thing with a grain of salt. Eventually, everthing gets abbreviated anyway: (more commonly referred to as TGWT by it's users, in this hypothetical situation. Anyway, instead of flaming, how about some suggestions: Gimptastic Gimptacular Gimpressive Gimpression Gimpified GIM(p|age) -- another attempt at backwards + forwards compatibility GIMPage Gnu Image Manipulator - GIM(p) --- for backwards compatibility -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/18/06, Frank McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:01:59 -0800 Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you sell that to a corporation? How do you market that? The people in business suits are going to chose a program named Photoshop over Gimp 11 times out of 10. ...and MS makes a good browser. Friend of mine was over on the weekend - I was doing some jpg work..and he asked what software I was using - when I told him it's called the Gimp, he fell over laughing. His comment what is it about Linux geeks that they pick these weird names - even when I explained its origin it didn't help - He added Ask a car maker (like Ford) whether model names (like Edsel) are important. And this stuff like GNU is not Unix drives me crazy. Frank, you have a valid point when you're trying to sell a product. But open source has a tendency to go against the grain in this dept. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/17/06, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 14:23 +0100, Olivier Lecarme wrote: Here is my own modest grain of salt in the discussion: snip Somebody in this list said that teachers have the duty to teach what is an industry standard. My own strong opinion is that one of my duties as a university teacher is to try changing the industry standards, if I think they are inappropriate. If my students need later to learn using Photoshop or Vista, they will be able to learn them quickly and easily, and with an acutely critical mind (hopefully). For the present, I prefer to teach them Gimp and GNU/Linux, and to teach them not to accept any so-called standard without discussion and thought. Surely, it is most important to teach students the principals involved in a subject so that, at a later stage, they are better informed when it comes to choosing in which direction to proceed. It is the responsibility of Industry, not universities, to provide the training needed for its employees to do the jobs required of them. The new graduate should be able to bring fresh ideas to the world of work not perpetuate the status quo and, thereby, help to ensure that we all benefit from progress and change. I could go on but this is probably not the place to do so. Norman As a career development student I'd have to agree that it's more important to learn general ideas and concepts, vs. the nitty gritty of one particular application/language, unless you want to learn that specific level of detail in an application. My wife teaches Gimp to her Jr. High computer class, about 90 students a quarter...she wasn't teaching any advanced graphic editor at all until I showed her Gimp and how it was just as good if not better than the industry standard Photoshop, which is around $600+ for one license (there probably is a school edition, but you get my point). Her students and school would never be able to afford that (nor should they in my opinion) when there is a competing product that is open source and available to all. Also, the industry standard is subjective at best and from my perspective limited simply by choice. Take for excample programming - what would you say is the industry standard language? There are so many choices it's impossible to say. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/17/06, Carter castor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and then name it after a slang word for a disabled person. How do you sell that to a corporation? How do you market that? The people in business suits are going to chose a program named Photoshop over Gimp 11 times out of 10. I disagree. Anyone who's serious about their business wouldn't rule out an application simply by it's name without considering it, especially if it's highly recommended. You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/17/06, Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. Today. What about in 3 years' time? I still don't see it as name-only being a deal-breaker for someone who's interested in a graphic design application. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/16/06, Andrew Swinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John R. Culleton wrote: ON another list someone was complaining about the expense nad bother of upgrading to the latest Photoshop, including licenses etc. I suggested Gimp as a no cost/no fuss alternative for students. I received a long reply, much of which I am not technically competent to answer. I have never used Photoshop. Anyone else care to take a crack at one or more issues raised? - As much as I love The Gimp (I think its the most awesome piece of open source software around), if this is a school that is specifically preparing students for digital design practices in the real world they are going to need photoshop one way or another. After all it is still the industry standard. My suggestion for this type of situation is this. Go with Photoshop licences, but not quite so many. If you were teaching my child I would want him or her to see all the main alternatives, not just the commercial one. At least if they have a few Gimp'd machines they can do some real long term testing. Maybe they can get the students trained in bug fixing and feature programming. I hear GEGL needs some help? ;) My own 2 cents: If you're teaching a class, use Gimp. They can always adapt what they learn in Gimp to Photoshop if their company requires it. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp Advent Calendar
I've been reading the YAPAC (Yet Another Perl Advent Calendar), http://perladvent.pm.org/ Would be cool to do something similar with Gimp. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] layer grouping
On 12/13/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 18:23 -0800, Anthony Ettinger wrote: Is it possible to group layers in Gimp? One problem is linking them, would be nice to link groups and move them independently of each other. Before asking here, you could run a query on our bug-tracker: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86337 Or what about searching the lists archive? Sven No offense Sven, but this *is* the gimp-user list. That's the second time I've asked a simple gimp question in the last 2 weeks where someone has told me to go somewhere else instead of posting here. Anyhow, I'll take a look. I wanted to see if there was any existing feature I didn't know about before submitting a new request.. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] layer grouping
On 12/13/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 00:19 -0800, Anthony Ettinger wrote: No offense Sven, but this *is* the gimp-user list. Sorry, but are you trying to say that users are not able to do some research before asking? That's the second time I've asked a simple gimp question in the last 2 weeks where someone has told me to go somewhere else instead of posting here. Well, you are asking frequently asked questions. I don't think that's much appreciated anywhere. Instead of flaming you for this or ignoring your request, you have been told where to find an answer. What's wrong with that? Nothing I guess. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] layer grouping
Is it possible to group layers in Gimp? One problem is linking them, would be nice to link groups and move them independently of each other. Also, I opened a PSD file which has 50+ layers. some named /LayerGroup with no content. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] easier round corner tabs
I need an easier way to resize a tab background for use in css+xhtml without having to recreate each time I resize. The problem is that if I need to resize the tab width, I have to re-do the entire tab creation. Is there a way to simply edit the selection after resizing? I've been doing the following: 1) three layers filled with: bg color, border color, fg color 2) create rounded selection (25% radius) 3) select border color layer, invert and clear 4) select fg color layer, shrink selection by 1, invert and clear 5) save as .png. the problem is I have to redo all this if I resize the image. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] easier round corner tabs
On 12/7/06, Chris Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) three layers filled with: bg color, border color, fg color 2) create rounded selection (25% radius) What if you add 2b) save selection as channel? Then you can scale the image and reload the selection from the channel... if i save selection to channel how will it be effected when I resize? ie - different radius on corners, or different aliasing? (I noticed this problem when I simply resized the image after it was rendered). 3) select border color layer, invert and clear 4) select fg color layer, shrink selection by 1, invert and clear 5) save as .png. the problem is I have to redo all this if I resize the image. I may have misunderstood the question - let me know if this isn't helpful... Chris -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] easier round corner tabs
On 12/7/06, Chris Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if i save selection to channel how will it be effected when I resize? ie - different radius on corners, or different aliasing? (I noticed this problem when I simply resized the image after it was rendered). The channel is scaled with the image - I'm guessing (now) that you want to scale/skew the image and leave the selection intact? Right, same rounded corners, just not as wide. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color selectors, which one do you use?
On 12/6/06, Steve Stavropoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/5/06, Sven Neumann wrote: This is IMO too much choice for most users It's not like they _have_ to make a choise. They can just use the default as 99% of people do. I too don't like many choises, but 2-3 tabs more or less in a color selector don't bother me at all... Now the question is, which color selectors do you actually use? I have myself never found the Watercolor selector to be useful. Most of the time I use the default, but my mother almost always uses the watercolor. She is not an advanced user (and she wouldn't find it if she had to enable it to use it), she is just used to create the color she wants and when she thinks about a color it feels more natural to mix 2-3 colors together to make it. At the default color selector at first she was totally lost... The one thing I wish Gimp had was a way to save colors for re-use. I hate that I can only have two fg/bg schemes at one time. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Interesting opinions
On 12/5/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 11:13 -0500, Ben Walker wrote: There are no settings/plugins in GIMP (to my knowledge) that provide either a reliable MDI interface or a truly usable SDI interface. New settings recently added like transient windows have quirks, and always on top is not a good alternative either. I understand that developers are saying (I'm sure justifiably) that Windows is the real problem. Be that as it may, on Windows, GIMP does not achieve a truly usable interface. You are perfectly right here. The problem is however that we don't have much, if any, active developers that contribute Win32 specific code to GTK+ and GIMP that would address this problem. There is almost no contributions from Windows users, but lots of complaints. Now tell me why we should even care about them? We would accept patches. There is a lot to do to improve the user experience on the Windows platform. Same holds true for Mac OS X. But unless there's active contributions, this isn't going to change. No matter how loud the complaints are. Sven If there was an option in Gimp to dock the windows so that they function as one, that would solve the problem. Ie - bring one to the front, they all come to the front. I don't know about Win32, as I'm on Linux, but that's one feature that I have yet to discover. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color selectors, which one do you use?
On 12/5/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, time for another little poll. GIMP has an interface for pluggable color selector modules. Over the time we have collected quite a few of them. In the 2.3 tree we have the following modules and builtin color selectors: Default color selector CMYK color selector Painter-style triangle color selector Watercolor style color selector Palette color selector This is IMO too much choice for most users and I think it would help if we would disable some of them. Expert users would still be able to reenable them in the Module Manager. Perhaps we could even have a menu somewhere in the Colors tab that allows to enable/disable color selectors. Now the question is, which color selectors do you actually use? I have myself never found the Watercolor selector to be useful. But your mileage might vary. Tell me about it. I use the triangle color wheel. After reading about color design, it makes more sense. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Interesting opinions
On 12/5/06, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 11:38 -0800, Anthony Ettinger wrote: If there was an option in Gimp to dock the windows so that they function as one, that would solve the problem. Ie - bring one to the front, they all come to the front. I don't know about Win32, as I'm on Linux, but that's one feature that I have yet to discover. Have you actually tried GIMP 2.3 yet? Anyway, if you want to dock the toolbox and other windows to the image window, go provide a patch then. Or better yet, ask on the gimp-developer list about the plans that we have for the GIMP user interface after 2.4 is out and check how your request integrates with that. I'm using 2.3.10. How do I dock it to the image window? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Interesting opinions
On 12/5/06, Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger wrote: I'm using 2.3.10. How do I dock it to the image window? Anyway, if you want to dock the toolbox and other windows to the image window, go provide a patch then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_(Unix), i.e. you'll have to write the code for this first. Thanks. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Website
On 12/5/06, Ben Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess I am going to take on a redesign of the website (pending developer approval), and I am going to need the community's help. From time to time I will mail this list and the GimpWin list with specific requests. I don't aim to totally demolish everything that is there already, but a lot of work needs to be done. What's good should stay, what's not should go. I don't believe in changing stuff just for the sake of changing it. I can't make any timeframe promises as I am very busy, but for the foreseeable future, I am committing to this project. A graphic program's website should be graphically stimulating. I am humbled by the artistic skills of lots of you guys/gals, and will call upon you a bit as you no doubt can do better than I. After a few minutes work I have lots of ideas and will post mock-ups soon on some webspace I have. Right now I'd like to ask members to please post any suggestions/requests for the website. I would like to add your ideas to mine and get GIMP some real web presence! I like the new site :) -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] graphicizing an icon
I've been informed that my icon needs to be more friendly...graphic-like. It's basically an h above a u with a sprite above it... http://chovy.dyndns.org/gimp/logos/logo-techaudio1.png something more cartoonish or friendly... -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] applying new gradients
On 11/24/06, Chris Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) use text tool with text My Company Name 2) copy visible to new layer, alpha to selection 3) apply gradient to it 4) render a variety of drop shadows 5) add bevelling I've attached a test image. 1 - made a text layer, flattened it. 2 - made an inverse selection on a new layer, filled it with white. 3 - made a gradient layer below the new 'cheap mask' layer. - at this point it's just the gradient showing through the hole in the 'cheap mask' layer. 4 - made another new layer (empty) with a selection of the text - ran bevel on that, moved it above the gradient and put it's mode on multiply. 5 - made a drop shadow on a last empty layer, flattened it and move it to the top (also on multiply). The end result is that you can still edit the gradient. One thing I noticed is that the highlights are lost on the bevel. But maybe this will give you some ideas There are others who GIMP better - I'm still trying to figure it out myself.. Thanks Chris, this works for now...although I noticed you have the inverse selection filled with white (called cheap mask)makes it so the gradient doesn't pass through to the entire image (only the text)what is a real mask, anyway? -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] applying new gradients
On 11/25/06, Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/24/06, Chris Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) use text tool with text My Company Name 2) copy visible to new layer, alpha to selection 3) apply gradient to it 4) render a variety of drop shadows 5) add bevelling I've attached a test image. 1 - made a text layer, flattened it. 2 - made an inverse selection on a new layer, filled it with white. 3 - made a gradient layer below the new 'cheap mask' layer. - at this point it's just the gradient showing through the hole in the 'cheap mask' layer. 4 - made another new layer (empty) with a selection of the text - ran bevel on that, moved it above the gradient and put it's mode on multiply. 5 - made a drop shadow on a last empty layer, flattened it and move it to the top (also on multiply). The end result is that you can still edit the gradient. One thing I noticed is that the highlights are lost on the bevel. But maybe this will give you some ideas There are others who GIMP better - I'm still trying to figure it out myself.. ...Chris, here is the tutorial I'm using that I would like to apply varying gradients to...let me know if you have any ideas (or anybody else for that matter). http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/topic/Text-Blending-in-GIMP-339-1.html#19058 Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] applying new gradients
On 11/25/06, Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/25/06, Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/24/06, Chris Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) use text tool with text My Company Name 2) copy visible to new layer, alpha to selection 3) apply gradient to it 4) render a variety of drop shadows 5) add bevelling I've attached a test image. 1 - made a text layer, flattened it. 2 - made an inverse selection on a new layer, filled it with white. 3 - made a gradient layer below the new 'cheap mask' layer. - at this point it's just the gradient showing through the hole in the 'cheap mask' layer. 4 - made another new layer (empty) with a selection of the text - ran bevel on that, moved it above the gradient and put it's mode on multiply. 5 - made a drop shadow on a last empty layer, flattened it and move it to the top (also on multiply). The end result is that you can still edit the gradient. One thing I noticed is that the highlights are lost on the bevel. But maybe this will give you some ideas There are others who GIMP better - I'm still trying to figure it out myself.. ...Chris, here is the tutorial I'm using that I would like to apply varying gradients to...let me know if you have any ideas (or anybody else for that matter). http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/topic/Text-Blending-in-GIMP-339-1.html#19058 update: I've come to realize I can apply just about everything except the very last bevel + drop shadow as seperate layers and still being able to change gradients, colors, etc... Once I've got a good color/gradient combination, I then copy visible and paste into then render a new layer, and apply the last two steps to that layer (bevel + drop shadow) http://chovy.dyndns.org/gimp/logos/logo-techaudio1.png http://chovy.dyndns.org/gimp/logos/logo-techaudio2.png http://chovy.dyndns.org/gimp/logos/logo-techaudio3.png http://chovy.dyndns.org/gimp/logos/logo-techaudio4.png http://chovy.dyndns.org/gimp/logos/logo-techaudio5.png http://chovy.dyndns.org/gimp/logos/logo-techaudio6.png What's your favorite? -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] applying new gradients
I have an image with a bunch of layers + effects rendered on the text layer...however, after seeing the final output I wanted to change the gradient a bit. Is it possible or is there some technique to keep the gradient seperate even after applying drop shadows and beveling? I find it cumbersome to recreate my entire image again simply to change the gradient. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
