Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-30 Thread Michael J. Hammel
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 09:55 -0400, Jason Cipriani wrote: > Would you recommend using Krita for image creation? Despite the fact > that "image authoring" is a point listed in the very first sentence on > gimp.org's main page, and that "painting" *is* the first bullet point > category on the GIMP inf

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-30 Thread David Gowers
Hi Jason, On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Jason Cipriani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 09:43 -0400, Jason Cipriani wrote: > > > > > I'm reading what you are all saying and I do firmly believe t

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-30 Thread Jason Cipriani
I have one other question, now: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:43 AM, David Gowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because it is not a drawing program. MSPaint is a drawing program. > Painter is a drawing program. Krita is a drawing program. Photoshop is > not a drawing program though it allows drawing

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-30 Thread Jason Cipriani
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 09:43 -0400, Jason Cipriani wrote: > > > I'm reading what you are all saying and I do firmly believe that an > > obvious method of drawing primitives would be a reasonable and > > beneficial additio

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-30 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 09:43 -0400, Jason Cipriani wrote: > I'm reading what you are all saying and I do firmly believe that an > obvious method of drawing primitives would be a reasonable and > beneficial addition to GIMP. Have you tried the GFig plug-in yet? It provides an easy method to d

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-30 Thread Jason Cipriani
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 a couple of people wrote: > Edit -> Stroke Selection This looks like it does exactly what I want, and that makes me happy. I haven't tried it yet, as I haven't had a chance to mess with GIMP in a few days. Thanks for telling me about that, though. I'm reading what you are all

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread David Gowers
Hi Ben, On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Ben Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > functionally across broad boundaries. The GIMP is not a "type" of > program. Definitely. > Furthermore, you should be cautious in saying what the GIMP > isn't. How can you say it is not a drawing program when m

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Ben Walker
David Gowers wrote: > I want to make myself clear, I would support the idea of shape drawing > tools (box, ellipse, polygon), providing they have the following > functionality: > 1. Drawing mode+opacity, since it is a paint tool. > 2. Choosing between FG,BG,Pattern, and No fill > 3. Enabling or dis

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:53 PM, David Gowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is not a popular graphics program in > > existence that requires these steps to draw primitive shapes such as > > boxes. It's no more complex than that. "A" solution is to add a > > simple, basic primitive dra

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Jason Cipriani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry for sending you this twice, Michael. Missed the "reply all" > button the first time through. > > One thing I do want to add to what's below is, just to clear it up: > I'm not pressing for a generic "solution" that

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Jason Cipriani
Sorry for sending you this twice, Michael. Missed the "reply all" button the first time through. One thing I do want to add to what's below is, just to clear it up: I'm not pressing for a generic "solution" that allows anybody to implement any custom tools in the tool palette that they may want. M

[Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Alchemie foto\grafiche
"Michael J. Hammel" wrote >"My problem with this is that while drawing borders may be a very common >task for you, there are many users for which it is never (or nearly >never) used. So adding a button for this task to the Toolbox falls into >my definition of feature creep. At what point do you

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Michael J. Hammel
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 17:11 -0400, Jason Cipriani wrote: > An alternative approach to having a new tool is to just add something > to the menu like "draw border around selection", which just automates > the current select + fill + shrink + (cut or fill) process. Adding a menu item is just a matte

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Tobias Jakobs
Am Dienstag, den 29.04.2008, 17:11 -0400 schrieb Jason Cipriani: > An alternative approach to having a new tool is to just add something > to the menu like "draw border around selection", which just automates > the current select + fill + shrink + (cut or fill) process. That's already there, hav

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Jason Cipriani
> FWIW, my GFXShapes plugin will do vector shapes without paths, but you > can save the shapes as presets (re: files). Presets are not saved as > part of the image file, however. GFXShapes was written for 2.2 because > I really disliked the interface to GFig at the time. I think a plugin >

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Michael J. Hammel
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 14:24 -0400, Jason Cipriani wrote: > AFAICT there's no vector-graphics layers so both choices end up with > rasterized shapes). Paths are vector oriented objects in the GIMP. They aren't associated with specific layers so the path is not included directly in compositing (cur

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Rich
Nathan Lane wrote: You're right that there aren't vector graphics layers, per se. However there are path layers, which can be treated like vector although they themselves don't have fill or stroke colors or patterns - if you change a path and you want to change the stroke or whatever, you h

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Nathan Lane
You're right that there aren't vector graphics layers, per se. However there are path layers, which can be treated like vector although they themselves don't have fill or stroke colors or patterns - if you change a path and you want to change the stroke or whatever, you have to do it manually. On

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Martin Nordholts
Jason Cipriani wrote: > Hypothetically speaking, if somebody were to sit down and try to work > on this in the far, far future, it seems like there would only be two > choices, both of them fairly straightforward (I'm new to gimp but > AFAICT there's no vector-graphics layers so both choices end up

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Jason Cipriani
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Martin Nordholts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a couple of reaons, some of them partly overlap: [snip] > * It is a big UI task to define exactly how drawing tools should work > and how they should interact with existing tools and workflows in a good > w

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Martin Nordholts
Jason Cipriani wrote: > I have a second question. If "how do I draw a box?" is a "frequently > asked question", why isn't there a "draw a box" button on the tool > palette in GIMP? Is there some historical reason? > Hello There are a couple of reaons, some of them partly overlap: * It is pos

[Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Jason Cipriani
I need to draw a circle and a box, outlined in black, preferably without erasing the background underneath the shape. How do I do this? Thanks, Jason ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listi

Re: [Gimp-user] Drawing simple shapes.

2008-04-29 Thread Jason Cipriani
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Jason Cipriani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need to draw a circle and a box, outlined in black, preferably > without erasing the background underneath the shape. How do I do this? I found the answer in the FAQ: Use the elliptical select tool, hold down CTRL ke