On 09/12/2012 01:52 AM, Ofnuts wrote:
On 09/11/2012 08:38 AM, maderios wrote:
Hi
I'm not developper but I think it is certainly possible to give the
choice in the configuration.
Yes, but it's a bad idea. Having all the people using more or less the
same Gimp is beneficial. The same tutorials w
maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote:
> May be but you have already the choice with "window-single mode" or
> not. Then you open edit -> preferences and here, incredible thing,
> you can discover about thousand settings ! I joke, you know that.
True, we know that we have way too many configuration
On Tuesday 11 September 2012 07:23:34 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * maderios [09-11-12 06:15]:
> ...
>
> > It's really very simple:
> >
> > Photoshop / Saving images
> > Save a file
> > Use the Save command to save changes to the current file or the Save As
> > command to save changes to a differ
On 09/12/2012 10:16 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote:
May be but you have already the choice with "window-single mode" or
not. Then you open edit -> preferences and here, incredible thing,
you can discover about thousand settings ! I joke, you know that.
True, we kn
maderios, please, please just accept that it will not happen. This has
been discussed at great length, and it will not change.
On 12/09/2012 10:55, maderios wrote:
On 09/12/2012 10:16 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote:
May be but you have already the choice with "wind
I see lots of complaints about the Gimp save and export. I've been
using Gimp for ages with this feature. It is entirely logical and I
don't understand the complaining.
In a DAW (digital audio workstation application) you save the whole
project as a session. You export the final file as mixdown in
maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >True, we know that we have way too many configuration settings.
> >
> >Unfortunately adding to these doesn't help with this problem.
>
> I don't understand. What's the problem ? You can keep a default conf
> or change a few things, or change many things...
On 09/12/2012 12:30 PM, Ryan Stark wrote:
I see lots of complaints about the Gimp save and export. I've been
using Gimp for ages with this feature. It is entirely logical and I
don't understand the complaining.
In a DAW (digital audio workstation application) you save the whole
project as a sess
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:34 PM, maderios wrote:
> A "DAW" with no name...
Any DAW.
> "Lots of apps..." Which apps ?
We've discussed it before, with names. But really, pick any DAW, any
NLE and the like.
> Most software, digikam, phot$p, firefox, avidemux, libreoffice,
> doesnt work like gimp
On 09/12/2012 01:38 PM, Psiweapon wrote:
The problem lies with users who DON'T need the XCF file awesomeness AT
ALL, such as me, as I'm made to jump through hoops to save a .PNG I just
opened. Well, I can use overwrite, but that doesn't even have a keyboard
shortcut.
Hi
I use .xcf files but my
maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Gimp is no longer the "universal Swiss army knife " of image
> editing, it's a fact.
Yes, that is true. It also doesn't aim to.
Bye,
Simon
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:43 PM, maderios wrote:
> People will leave the world of free software to turn to proprietary.
Isn't it where four riders of the Apocalypse emerge? Oh, and Ronnie :)
Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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All DAWs work like this. That's why I used it as an example. DAWs
generally work in a non destructive manner and you need to save that
info for later editing. Not destructively export it without saving the
whole project. 2D image editing has many non destructive aspects. DAWs
have lots of tracks wh
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Ryan Stark wrote:
> DAWs have lots of tracks which can be equated to Gimp's layers.
They even have layers inside tracks ;-)
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:43 PM, maderios wrote:
> I use .xcf files but my friends, my family members and most people, I think,
> don't use .xcf. They need an image editor, not an xcf editor.
> People will leave the world of free software to turn to proprietary.
> Gimp is no longer the "universal
I see all this critique as completely ridiculous. That's why I posted
about it. Gimp is a professional level app and it's free. What more do
people want?
I use Gimp for painting purposes so I end up with complex Gimp
projects with many layers etc so the new save or export makes total
sense. I can'
Ryan Stark (efflux...@googlemail.com) wrote:
> This is a superb feature.
> You can buy a little MIDI controller with lots of knobs and sliders.
> VASTLY superior to sliders on graphics tablets.
Yay! Somebody is using this feature! :-)
Bye,
Simon
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> I use .xcf files but my friends, my family members and most people, I
> think, don't use .xcf.
Yes, I think you have just about FINALLY hit the point. I am NOT a developer
for GIMP, but I am enthusiastically in support of this new change so that I
CANNOT loose my multi-layer composition wi
The basic problem appears to be that casual users of Gimp who just
want to open an image, edit then "save" it back to the original format
don't really seem to understand the .xfc format and what that does. If
they spent a few minutes investigating that they would understand the
change instead of im
On 09/12/2012 03:50 PM, jfrazie...@nc.rr.com wrote:
I use .xcf files but my friends, my family members and most people, I
think, don't use .xcf.
Yes, I think you have just about FINALLY hit the point. I am NOT a developer for GIMP,
but I am enthusiastically in support of this new change so
* maderios [09-12-12 10:36]:
>
> Do you really use it ? Ergonomically speaking, Gimp is now an xcf editor.
s/is now/has always been/
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On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:35 PM, maderios wrote:
> Free Software philosophy is opening, not closing.
> About GNU/Linux philosophy
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar
The GIMP philosophy is "less talking, more doing". This whole thread
is against it.
The change won't be r
"Do you really use it ? Ergonomically speaking, Gimp is now an xcf editor."
Gimp is an image editor that can import or export whatever you want
but has it's own savable format for all the layers and other data to
store for later editing. Hence the differentiation of saving and
exporting.
"Print s
> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:34:07 +0200
> From: mader...@gmail.com
> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Save Export Complaints
>
> Most software, digikam, phot$p, firefox, avidemux, libreoffice, doesnt
> work like gimp but with standard way.
>
> Greetings
> --
> Maderios
It's not logical to save a whole session if all one does is touch up a jpeg
file.
On the other hand, for people who do complicated image building over many
sessions, it makes sense to save a project and in that case it would be logical
to have an option that allows gimp to open the previous pr
"It's not logical to save a whole session if all one does is touch up
a jpeg file."
No, so then the logical thing is to export. Why is this such a
problem? Export is separated from save dialog to make it difficult to
accidentally lose you data. If you accidentally save to xcf rather
than export th
Should GIMP be dumbed down for people who are too stupid to save their work?
As said before, there are many different ways to implement the New; Open; Save;
Save As...; sequence so that all users can feel comfortable with the
interaction and all users can be given the maximum security for their
"Now that's a really neat idea. What (affordable) MIDI controller do you like?"
I use a Korg NanoKontrol. The one here with the sliders and knobs:
http://www.korg.co.uk/products/software_controllers/nano2/sc_nano2.php
I'm not sure how much it is but it's cheap compared to what there used
to be.
On 09/12/2012 05:37 PM, Ken Warner wrote:
It's not logical to save a whole session if all one does is touch up a
jpeg file.
On the other hand, for people who do complicated image building over
many sessions, it makes sense to save a project and in that case it
would be logical to have an option
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Ken Warner wrote:
> As said before, there are many different ways to implement the New; Open;
> Save; Save As...; sequence so that all users can feel comfortable with the
> interaction and all users can be given the maximum security for their work.
Nothing works f
Hello, evryone.
I agree with what Ryan is saying.
It took a little to get used to the new way of saving and exporting, but it
is not more cumbersome than any other program.
Kind regrads
Erik Johansson, Sweden
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Exactly!
On 9/12/2012 9:40 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Ken Warner wrote:
As said before, there are many different ways to implement the New; Open;
Save; Save As...; sequence so that all users can feel comfortable with the
interaction and all users can be gi
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM, maderios wrote:
> The first rule to know when editing an image is to save your work as you go
> along. When you drive a car you look ahead, not behind, you watch the
> road... It's the same principle : security. If people knew that, this
> annoying thread would no
On 09/12/2012 06:55 PM, Chris Mohler wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM, maderios wrote:
The first rule to know when editing an image is to save your work as you go
along. When you drive a car you look ahead, not behind, you watch the
road... It's the same principle : security. If people k
Hello Ryan,
Am 12.09.2012 15:25, schrieb Ryan Stark:
[..] Gimp can be hooked up to a MIDI controller for
controlling brush sizes or anything else. This is a superb feature.
You can buy a little MIDI controller with lots of knobs and sliders.
VASTLY superior to sliders on graphics tablets.
Und
Dear Fellow GIMPers,
I like the new change. Enough said.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, since I have arbitrarily decided that my
sentiments are representative of the entire GIMP user base, we are all
in agreement and the GIMP-bashing threads can die a long-awaited death.
~Christen
On 9/12
On Sep 12, 2012 5:56 PM, "maderios" wrote:
>
> On 09/12/2012 10:16 AM, Simon Budig wrote:
>>
>> maderios (mader...@gmail.com) wrote:
>>>
>>> May be but you have already the choice with "window-single mode" or
>>> not. Then you open edit -> preferences and here, incredible thing,
>>> you can disc
Em 12-09-2012 15:41, Christen Anderson escreveu:
Dear Fellow GIMPers,
I like the new change. Enough said.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, since I have arbitrarily decided that
my sentiments are representative of the entire GIMP user base, we are
all in agreement and the GIMP-bashing threads ca
On 09/12/2012 09:50 AM, jfrazie...@nc.rr.com wrote:
> [...] Ask how many print shops support psd files but not xcf? I
would bet that number would be > 20:1 and one way to change that
would be to try to push the xcf usage among professional artists who
use such print shops far more than the avera
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