Very nice features... until they get in touch with server side code :) (not
talking about ee/pro).
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:30 AM, ckendrick charles.kendr...@gmail.comwrote:
Um, so, it was pointed out to me that I missed some major ones. Even
some I wrote personally :)
Drag Reorder of
What are you talking about? Care to elaborate instead of writing a one liner
with a smiley which makes no sense.
until they get in touch with server side code :) (not talking about
ee/pro)
Are you having trouble writing server side code?
Sanjiv
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:38 AM, mariyan nenchev
Personally - yes. It is to much code for basic stuff. Don't understand me
wrong, if i look smart gwt only as client side framework, it is very good
and rich, but most users(developers) have trouble integrating it with other
frameworks, technologies and so on...You see how many users write every
mariyan,
The SmartGWT LGPL server side code can be as little or much depending on how
the developer codes it. Pro / EE handle the server side persistence so
there's minimal code to writ. With LGPL, the SmartGWT datasource protocol
simply passes the relevant information for various operations like
It looks like we're having a little bit of a flame war going here.
Our current KATO demo ( see http://myjsp.dynamicalsoftware.com/kato )
uses SmartGWT and, though not perfect, the default eye candy does look
nice and we will most probably stay with SmartGWT.
Those who are in Birmingham, AL might
Well I use GXT but like the smartgwt grids better so am looking at
this datasource issue.
It's worrysome:
Thread
http://forums.smartclient.com/showthread.php?t=3012
Bug report asking for RPC datasource
http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/issues/detail?id=303
I see there is an api but it states:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Brown big.coffee.lo...@gmail.comwrote:
Well I use GXT but like the smartgwt grids better so am looking at
this datasource issue.
It's worrysome:
Thread
http://forums.smartclient.com/showthread.php?t=3012
Bug report asking for RPC datasource
Carl,
On skins, you don't sound as though you've looked at the Showcase
since 2.0, when we made a series of improvements which now has most
users commenting that our skins are sharper than GXTs.
On grids, this is the first time I've ever seen someone claim the GXT
grids are better, I really
Um, so, it was pointed out to me that I missed some major ones. Even
some I wrote personally :)
Drag Reorder of columns
http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#grid_appearance_columnorder
The CubeGrid (multi-dimensional data model support)
We have used GXT from 1.2 to 2.1.1 on a mid-sized project.
Pros
- I think the look and feel is sharp and responsive (much nicer that
SmartGWT IMHO - but look at the showcases and judge for youself).
- Grids are the best I've seen (sorry SmartGWT) but no lockable
columns (which Smart does have) -
Just to sum up, the only people in this thread reporting negative
hands-on experiences with SmartGWT have all gone against our explicit
advice in the documentation, FAQ, and in some cases, personal
attention in the forums.
The only person with hands-on experience claiming there are bugs
turned
I too have seen many negative comments on SmartGWT. I am not
associated with the project in any way, but I do use it for several
projects lately. I do agree that some of it is difficult to debug/
understand do to the extensive use of JSNI. However, I have received
great forum-based support, and I
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM, cretz chad.r...@gmail.com wrote:
I too have seen many negative comments on SmartGWT. I am not
associated with the project in any way, but I do use it for several
projects lately. I do agree that some of it is difficult to debug/
understand do to the extensive
I just want to echo this for anyone who hasn't already made up their mind:
* Writing your own UI in straight-up GWT is not as hard as you might think.
The stock widgets are not beautiful out-of-the-box but they are
heavily customizable with CSS. They are *very* easy to learn and
nearly always
Yes it has very fancy widgets but the integration with the server side is
killing unless you decide to purchase pro/ee, which is why it is done that
way, to show the devs how rich library it is and when they began to use it
they understand that they must buy pro/ee else they will code hundreds
I've been using GXT for a while, and as previous posts have mentioned,
the amount of documentation is pretty sparse. I've been able to
overcome that by relying on their extensive set of demo apps, and by
reading through the API's source code. If you're comfortable reading
someone else's Java code,
@mariyan nenchev, my bad, I forgot to mention that it's a EE feature.
But the UI is available in the free version.
GXT API is much like the AWT API.
On Feb 3, 2:21 pm, Jonathan jona...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm also using GXT on a very, very large project. My experience has
been pretty positive.
@mariyan nenchev, I used SmartGWT free version for some time and it
was a pain to integrate with EJB(To be honest I gave up). I considered
the paid version, but it's too expensive. You receive a lot of
useless features. You can't choose the ones you need, you must buy
the whole package.
On Feb 3,
We don't want nested grids. We don't want nested html. We want a
nested composite panel with arbitrary widgets in them. Neither
framework does well there, hence the custom solution.
Anyhow, we'll be looking on our next project and seeing how we feel
about it. Extended GXT was very simple for us
@Jeff, ahhughes: as far as the built-in GWT widgets, they are well-
designed and fine for simple things, but if your requirement is to
have a grid that supports full-row inline editing, grouping,
filtering, frozen columns, paging through large datasets, resizable/
reorderable headers with
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:25 PM, mariyan nenchev
nenchev.mari...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes it has very fancy widgets but the integration with the server side is
killing unless you decide to purchase pro/ee, which is why it is done that
way, to show the devs how rich library it is and when they began
We're currently using GXT on a large project and I'd like to say that
GXT's layout system is alien to GWT, the documentation is
nonexistant,
the appearance is highly inflexible, and the attitude of the support
team sucks (even for customers that pay for support). Consider, for a
moment, that
You know guys, this is a tough decision. We all differ in experience
and knowledge.
I think that this criticism is good for every one.
SmartGWT is very good in Server-side integration, with a lot UI
widgets, but it's a wrapper to JS and you can't override the way it
work internally(Yes, some
I noticed that SmartGWT doesn't support the iPhone whereas GWT does.
This surprised me because SmartGWT does work when using Safari on
either PC or Mac.
How do GXT apps work when surfed to by an iPhone?
On Feb 3, 10:24 am, Tercio terciofi...@gmail.com wrote:
You know guys, this is a tough
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Tercio terciofi...@gmail.com wrote:
SmartGWT is very good in Server-side integration, with a lot UI
Smart gwt pro/ee may be, but not smart gwt. Tell me how many lines of code
you must write in order to integrate it with EJBS? What steps you must do in
order to
We've found this ability to override methods and subclass components
to be invaluable. You may be able to do some of this with SmartGWT, I
have not specifically looked. Coming from a Wicket background I found
GXT to be very comfortable and 'Wicketlike' in the way thats its pure
Java and abstracts
I'm also using GXT on a very, very large project. My experience has
been pretty positive. I've been working with the GXT library over a
year. The appearance of most components can be changed pretty
easily. I prefer the GXT rendering model over GWT. We have custom
versions of nearly every GXT
Re: widgets inside grid rows: not only is it out of the box in
SmartGWT, there are multiple out of the box modes for it, including
nested editable grids.
http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#featured_nested_grid
Hi,
i had the opportunity to write medium sized app with smart gwt, and for me
it was the most painful framework for me ever. I do not know what are the
changes in 2.0, i used 1.2, but i am not will never try it again. Also i
don't like the resource management like images, css, modules so on...
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:16 PM, ahhughes ahhug...@gmail.com wrote:
For future reference
At the time of writing the following are available:
GWT v2.0
and.
SmartGWT v2.0 (http://code.google.com/p/smartgwt/ under Apache
License)
Ext GWT v2.1.0 (http://www.extjs.com/products/gxt/
Thanks i look at it, but i prefer to use pure gwtincubator. Advanced
components also seems good.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM, David Durham david.durham...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:16 PM, ahhughes ahhug...@gmail.com wrote:
For future reference
At the time of writing
I have used both libraries. I would say, stay away from SmartGWT. It's
a wrapper on the SmartClient javascript library, which means the API
is an almost direct transliteration from Javascript. As Joshua Bloch
will tell you, direct transliteration of APIs is bad. A lot of times,
the API methods
My experience with GXT was horrible, and I ended up ripping it out of
my app entirely. I wrote about it in this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/msg/693cacbce437d08a
GXT's layout system is alien to GWT, the documentation is nonexistant,
the appearance is highly
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:38 AM, mariyan nenchev
nenchev.mari...@gmail.com wrote:
i had the opportunity to write medium sized app with smart gwt, and for me
it was the most painful framework for me ever.
Yes, it is.
I do not know what are the changes in 2.0, i used 1.2, but i am not will
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Bogdan Maryniuck b.maryni...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:38 AM, mariyan nenchev
nenchev.mari...@gmail.com wrote:
i had the opportunity to write medium sized app with smart gwt, and for
me
it was the most painful framework for me ever.
Yes, it
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sanjiv Jivan sanjiv.ji...@gmail.com wrote:
It's quite easy to criticize a library, isn't it?
Sanjiv, I remember all that ugly story with you and Ext stuff. And
really appreciate the thing you do. But still, what's wrong with a
constrictive criticism? I am using
SmartGWT (UI part anyway) is open source, so you could modify it -- albeit
have to share it back -- but you are not stuck. Many commercial libraries
are even harder to get a fix. Also, a feature any given person needs may not
be top priority.
Heck, I love GWT, but it needs better enterprise
- Both GXT and Smart GWT are pure gwt (no underlying native JS library,
so expect equivalent speed/performance from the GWT compiler).
Nope, SmartGWT is a wrapper to SmartClient JS Library.
ckendrick and I have different understandings about override ... :-P
We already discussed this
Though many people think that Overloading/Overwriting and JSNI don't
really fit together.
I think they do if you are a bit creative.
If you are interested in how I solved this problem for QxWT you should
take a look at this series of posts.
@Tercio I'm not able to follow the distinction you wish to make
between behavior and functionality, but in terms of what the Java
language calls an override, yes SmartGWT supports it. Demonstrated
here among many other places:
Thanks for everyone's replies. I'm still not sure what the fundemental
differences are between the 2.5 options above.
The following appears to be the case:
- GXT superseed's the GWT-Ext (as GWT-Ext is no longer under active
development), so really this concludes that GWT-Ext is not a
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Andrew Hughes ahhug...@gmail.com wrote:
- Both GXT and Smart GWT are pure gwt (no underlying native JS library,
so expect equivalent speed/performance from the GWT compiler).
No, GXT is pure GWT, but SmartGWT is a GWT wrapper around the JS library,
There you go -- I hope, here:
http://ui-programming.blogspot.com/2010/01/comparation-ext-gwt-gxt-vs-gwt-ext-vs.html
you can find more info about the same topic.
Cheers!
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I am currently using GXT 2.1.0 on a big customer project and my
experience is, that it is a great framework to
produce fast results. There are some bugs in each release but you have
the possibility to override the methods
to fix the bug by yourself. If you want to extend a widget, it is
possible.
With SmartGWT you can also extend widgets and override methods in pure
Java.
Just a tour through the SmartGWT and SmartGWT Pro/EE showcases should
be enough to identify a number of feature advantages which may matter
for your application.
http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/
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