RE: [h-cost] more Eleonora of Toledo

The manuscript is a heavily researched historical novel The inventory is in the book previously mentioned. Catriona -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wanda Pease Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:06 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE:

RE: [h-cost] serging knits help please!

Don't pull the garment as it goes under the presser foot/ over the feed dogs. It should help if there is no pressure on the piece. Also-- play with a scrap and adjust the tension to accomodate the fabric. Good luck ! Dame Catriona MacDuff PS--One of the scrolls on my wall has defenestrate in

RE: [h-cost] Eleanora's Dress

Hi Maddalena (Nancy) --- Actually I have the catalog from the Memphis show and a book on Eleonora that shows this. Also saw it in a slide at a lecture given by Janet Cox-Rearick (16th C costume / painting goddess). Great dress. MIGHT have been one of the dresses from her ladies in waiting. Maybe

RE: Subject: [h-cost] Eleanora's Dress

Hi-- I've read it. The gown was used to dress a statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Eleonora was very religious and some of her gowns were used for ecclesiastical stuff after she died. It MIGHT have been from one of the L-I-W, or Eleonora herself. It is unsure. There is a painting of the Ducal

RE: [h-cost] Eleanora's Dress

It is a very heavily researched historical novel about Cosimo and Eleonora. Dame Catriona MacDuff (Monica Spence) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of WickedFrau Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 2:54 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h

RE: [h-cost] Re: jeans

Try some online stores. Most have real stores in most cities/malls. If you find something it will take less time if you go in armed with a style number or a photo. Dame Catriona MacDuff (Fashion instructor in a college where all the kids are rifgt on top of styles) -Original Message-

[h-cost] Need to find a costume pic

Hi All! I am looking for a color picture: Cosimo de Medici at the age of 12 (Duke Cosimo I de Medici) It is by Ridolfo GHIRLANDAIO, and it is in the Palazzo Medici-Riccardi in Florence. Has anyone ever seen this on the web? If so, couild you please send me the link? Thanks! Dame Catriona MacDuff

RE: [h-cost] Need to find a costume pic

No. The picture that I am seeking is in the Palazzo Medici-Riccardi in Florence. I have see the one in the Hermitage, but thanks for givinig it to me!!! Dame Catriona MacDuff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Sunday, October 02,

RE: [h-cost] Need to find a costume pic

That would be great! Thanks! Catriona -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Suzi Clarke Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:09 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] Need to find a costume pic At 14:49 03/10/2005, you wrote: No. The

RE: [h-cost] Tippets

Hi Robin-- How does one go about subscribing to Medieval Clothing Textiles ? Dame Catriona MacDuff / Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robin Netherton Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 11:18 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re

RE: [h-cost] Tippets

Thanks! I'll check it out. Catriona/Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robin Netherton Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 11:22 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] Tippets On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, monica spence wrote: How does

RE: [h-cost] Cranach dress

Hi Jean/Raella-- I'm doing the Martyrdom of St. Barbara gown (Metropolitan Mus. of Art, NYC) 20,000 beads and counting... The shirt and bodice are definitely connected. Because of how she is kneeling I think it would be a back closure-- at least on this dress. It has a lot of Italian influence to

RE: [h-cost] MCT vol. 2, progress report

Hi Robin-- Bless you for doing some late period stuff! I have mine on preorder already! Dame Catriona MacDuff (Monica Spence) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robin Netherton Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:52 PM To: Historical Costume

RE: [h-cost] knit jacket was Re: Moda a Firenze 1540-1580

I have the Bronzino book, which is an excellent book, if you are specializing in the period it covers. However, it is mostly about painting. If you are interested in that, great. If you are looking for new costume plates, I think that you will be disappointed. Most of the pictures in the book have

RE: Bronzino (was Re: [h-cost] knit jacket was Re: Moda aFirenze1540-1580

Of Susan B. Farmer Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 12:44 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: Bronzino (was Re: [h-cost] knit jacket was Re: Moda aFirenze1540-1580 Quoting monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The lower sleeves are deep maroon in most of the repros I have seen. It is funny that so

RE: Bronzino (was Re: [h-cost] knit jacket was Re: ModaaFirenze1540-1580

in the Panciatichi portrait. The lower sleeves are the same deep burgundy color as in the brocade of the bodice, though they are solid, not brocade. kate - Original Message - From: monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 11:58 AM

RE: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?

Hi Donna-- Do you have a photo link for the painting? (Bronzino's A Daughter of Matteo Sofferoni) I don't think I am familiar with it. Thanks! Dame Catriona MacDuff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donna Franke Sent: Sunday, November 20,

RE: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? Hi Catriona, You can find it here: http://homepage.mac.com/festive_attyre/research/secondflor/portfolio.html Helen On 11/20/05 3:43 PM, monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Donna-- Do you have a photo

RE: [h-cost] Re: Mus. of London... knit question

Is there anything out there about knitted garters? Italian preferably, but English , French or German will do. If there is a reference out there , please let me know. There is a discussion on garters, knitted and otherwise on another list... Thanks, Dame Catriona MacDuff -Original

RE: [h-cost] 16th century Book of Hours/Calendar

Hi ! Has anybody ever have a chance to see the Eleonora of Toledo book of Hours in the VA? If so, is there a link? I have only seen BW pics ... Best Holiday Regards- Dame Catriona MacDuff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kimiko Small Sent:

RE: [h-cost] Re: opera

I've costumed a lot of period style operas-- for me the best way was to lightly bone the bodice of the gown so it gives the look , but doesn't drive the singers crazy... Dame Catriona MacDuff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Caroline Sent:

RE: [h-cost] A Rant about commercial patterns

Why don't you have the girl's mom loosly measure their wrists? Elastic specs are tricky in a factory. If something is too tight it will not fit or sell. Best Regards- Dame Catriona MacDuff (Monica Spence-- designer and patternmaker for kid's swimwear) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] Re: Question about display...

Just be careful that you don't cause stress to the fabric. Vintage fabrics can rip easily if they have not been cared for properly. If you put too much stress on it, it could tear. For example, be careful that you don't hang something from, say pins in the shoulders of a garment, without

RE: [h-cost] Re: Duke of Mantua costume

I saw this costume in New York . It was pretty spectacular. Janet Cox Rearick was the organizer of the exhibit. It also had the famous black white gold Eleonora of Toledo gown and Federico Gonzaga outfit among others. The fabric was amazing the reproduced it for the exhibit... Sigh The women

RE: Man's Doublet closure, was Re: [h-cost] Have you seen this painting?

Hooks and eyes? This is Francesco de Medici, Cosimo I de Medici and Eleonora de Toledo's oldest son. Dame Catriona MacDuff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joan Jurancich Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 5:22 PM To: Historical Costume Subject:

RE: [h-cost] Another period program on tv

Actually I saw that codpiece info also, and it was written , I believe, by a doctor, not a costume historian. If I can find it, I will post a link. Dame Catriona MacDuff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Elinor Salter Sent: Tuesday, January 10,

RE: [h-cost] Re: Italian Underwear

This leads me to ask, and please do not take offense anyone... How did 16th women deal with their monthly courses without underpants? Rags, I know, but how were they held up? This part of clothing never seems to be dealt with, though the Costume Society of America (Dress) once had an article on

RE: [h-cost] Re: seamed nylons

Fredrick's and Victoria's Secrets sell seamed nylons. However, they are not cheap! (I think that they were about $20 US) Catriona MacDuff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Catherine Olanich Raymond Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:25 PM To:

RE: [h-cost] Cap of Maintenance

Hi Arlys-- The cap is usually some shade of red. The look of the cap generally is reflected by the persona: eg: a 16th C woman might have a red caul. Someone I know with a German medieval persona has a small knitted cap. Depends on what you want. I don't have a cap of maintenance-- never got one.

RE: [h-cost] pet hair

Reverse roll tape on your hand so the sticky side is out. Duct tape or that clear packing tape works pretty well. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E House Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:01 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re:

RE: [h-cost] Cap of Maintenance

PROTECTED] Behalf Of Becky Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:13 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cap of Maintenance I am not familar with that cap. What does one look like? - Original Message - From: monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

RE: [h-cost] paned sleeves for Elizabethan - question

I've done the Eleonora of Toledo sleeves in several incarnations/ versions, that have buttons or beads on each pane-- including the undersides of the sleeves-- without a problem. However if something is too sharp, anything would abrade the fabric. Catriona -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] Re: Gestational Stays

Hi -- The Eleonora painting was auctioned off at Sotheby's this past year. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan B. Farmer Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:54 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Gestational Stays

RE: [h-cost] Re: Gestational Stays

The painting of Lady Burley can be found in Roy Strong's The English Icon-- however it is in BW. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ailith Mackintosh Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:05 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost]

RE: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories

Speaking of interesting books--- Does anyone know if Eleonora of Toledo's Book of Hours, which is in the VA, has ever been published? If so, do you have the ISBN number? Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cin Sent: Monday, January 30,

RE: [h-cost] Book Alert - Inventories of Henry VIII

Speaking of Janet Arnold-- I know there were other things thet she was working on that were supposed to be finished by others, including a book on shiorts and smocks. Does anyone know if it was ever published? Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [h-cost] Funny comic

Hi Robin-- I am still laughing. I just was gifted with a Baronial coronet by Their Majesties-East (SCA) and my hisband has made it a point to tease me about this kind of thing. (He has has his for six months already.) Monica (Catriona in the SCA) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] [Fwd: [costumers_notes] How to keep fringe from tangling with your thread while sewing it on...]

This is great. I bet it would work with other stuff that keeps looping around the needle and thread! Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeanine E. Swick Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:00 PM To: ICG-D list Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] silk/'natural protein'

They are now producing fabric from soy protein, I believe. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] silk/'natural protein' In a message

RE: [h-cost] OT Smoking

all think they are immortal... Monica Spence (Catriona MacDuff in the SCA) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kimiko Small Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 6:04 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT Smoking At 08:13 PM 2/23/2006, you

RE: [h-cost] Jealousy, envy desire

courses, or intensive residency programs... Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LuAnn Mason Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 1:04 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Jealousy, envy desire Well, the other question

RE: [h-cost] The Change Hand Fans

Oh Susan! You have it so right!!! I used to do full Elizabethan in August at the SCA Pennsic War... Ha! Not now!!! Monica (Catriona in the SCA) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan B. Farmer Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 10:37 AM To:

RE: [h-cost] Re: History of Fans

Hi Nancy! How are things down South?? I have a book on Fans-- I think there are a few-- but most seem to concentrate on 17th C and beylon. I'd love to know, too! Monica Spence (Catriona MacDuff in the SCA) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf

RE: [h-cost] Re: History of Fans

Oh yes please!! Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Beth and Bob Matney Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re: History of Fans No , but I happened across a lovely folding fan from late Roman in

RE: [h-cost] abuse of fabrics (aka care and washing)

of frustrations. (Don't get me started on off-shore manufacturing...) Yours- Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lloyd Mitchell Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:33 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] abuse of fabrics (aka care

RE: [h-cost] Funny Nail Polish Colors

Personally I would love some of those Elizabethan colors: Dead Spaniard and Dirty Isabella come to mind... :-) Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jean Waddie Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:44 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re

[h-cost] 16th C. Dress

Hi all-- This was just on my email list for the Costume Society of America. Regards- Monica Spence (Catriona MacDuff in the SCA) NEW ONLINE RESOURCE A new research resource for 16th Century dress is now online. A pilot database of images is available at: http://www.jmdsrv1.dyndns.org

looking for a painting (was:)RE: [h-cost] Re:16th Century Spanish patterns

mother and was in all black-- including her jewelry. Has anyone else ever seen this? It is supposed to be ion the Prado, but I have never seen it reproduced anywhere. If you know where I can find this, please let me know! Thanks. Monica Spence (Catriona MacDuff in the SCA) -Original Message

RE: looking for a painting (was:)RE: [h-cost] Re:16th CenturySpanishpatterns

Thanks ! This is it! Best Regards- Monica PS-- Where did you find this??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan B. Farmer Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 10:05 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: looking for a painting (was:)RE: [h-cost]

RE: looking for a painting (was:)RE: [h-cost] Re:16th CenturySpanishpatterns

Thank you so much! Your website is amazing!!! Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of michaela Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 10:06 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: looking for a painting (was:)RE: [h-cost] Re:16th CenturySpanishpatterns

RE: [h-cost] Greetings and question about a painting

try heavy cotton velvet, not that awful acetate velvet that they sell for clothing , to reproduce this. Make sure there is no plastic backing on the fabric if you use upholstery velvet. The person wearing it will just die under the lights! Best Regards- Monica Spence (Catriona MacDuff in the SCA

[h-cost] New Topic: drawstring necklines on chemises

has said she found a reference in several books but is more than willing to look at what I find , and change her lecture, as necessary. We both hate the idea of disseminating incorrect information to students. Thanks a bunch-- Monica Spence (Catriona MacDuff in the SCA

RE: [h-cost] Re: ruffs and drawstring necklines

Thanks everyone for the help! Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re: ruffs and drawstring necklines I am under the impression that ruffs

RE: [h-cost] 265: To dye for: Poison: Paris green

(outside). It seems that arsenic does not leave your system. Once it is there it is there. Too much arsenic makes for unhappy campers...or set builders. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E House Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:18 PM

[h-cost] swaddling bands

-- Catriona MacDuff (Monica Spence) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

RE: [h-cost] swaddling bands

) Allessandro Vitali. Swaddlied in what looks like an embroidered or fancy woven cloth. It is a pic in black and white. The baby is sideways, half covered with a n embroidered? blanket Katy On 3/25/06, monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All-- I am looking for pictures of babies in swaddling

RE: [h-cost] swaddling bands

Thank you!! These are Perfect!!! Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan B. Farmer Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:53 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] swaddling bands Quoting monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [h-cost] Clothes fitting - gotta start somewhere

the image they drop the sizes. For instance, the Limited does not sell men's pants larger than size 36. It seems to me that there is an awfully large market for clothes for those of us who are not perfect... Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [h-cost] Re: Bliaut

Hi Nancy-- Do you have a photo? Regards Monica (Catriona) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 5:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re: Bliaut While in Angers recently I saw a great

RE: [h-cost] ideas on making body-shape suit or adding weight to an actress

split the back and add ties or hooks or velcro for closures... Just a thought. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Diana Habra Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:15 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] ideas on making body

RE: [h-cost] Steam Iron source

I use the Rowenta iron with the separate reservoir and it is fabulous! Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kimiko Small Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:01 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Steam Iron source At 02:33

Center strip on Eleonora's gowns (WasRE: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor....a review)

-- not from the master himself. The Alorri portrait in Francisco's Studiolo is posthumous. The standing color style looks to be to late to actually be worn by Eleonora. Regards- Monica Spence (SCA: Catriona MacDuff) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [h-cost] Mouldy linen/dyed linen

What about a diluted solution of chlorine bleach? That always works on whites for me. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sharon at Collierfam.com Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:24 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: RE: [h-cost

[h-cost] Movies

There are certain movies that I will not see. Titanic was one. Not because of the costumes, but I really didn't want to spend 10 bucks to see 1500 people die. I figured the story's ending wouldn't be changed, so whateve came before would make it worse. Monica Spence -Original Message

RE: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

better each time I see it, and the names become background noise to the story. And we won't even discuss the James Bond movies... Monica Spence ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

RE: [h-cost] Mel Gibson flicks

a designer based on ego, comfort, or their own Vision of the production. It is a rare actor that will wear a costume simply because the designer gives it to him or her. It is a very idealized situation to allow everyone to do their own jobs. In a perfect world it happens, not Hollywood. Monica

RE: [h-cost] Mel Gibson flicks

Hey, they were in a hurry! :-) Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:32 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Mel Gibson flicks girlfriend or his niece unless he feels that she

RE: [h-cost] Titanic film/live

I thought thay had done that already. Sigh. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:43 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Titanic film/live If you thought that awful Celine Dion and

RE: [h-cost] Tudor Jewellery

the Darkridge page, my pendant ship is there, as is the baroque pearl dragon... She does really cool stuff! Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of klh Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:18 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] Tudor

RE: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toledo 1545 help

Hi Natalie-- You can make the gown without an underbodice and kirtle over a corset. How many people at the Faire will notice? You are the one dealing with the heat! About The Eleonora dress: The red velvet pair of bodies was lines with (believe it or not) paper. It had no bones. You could

RE: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toledo 1545 help

knew she had had many children, and was a woman of substance (like me!) but I didn't know how she had died. The velvet bodice makes perfect sense as an alternative to the steel corset for an aging/dying woman. Thanks for the help! Natalie - Original Message - From: monica spence [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toledo 1545 help

Hi Michaela-- Right now I'm writing a book on Cosimo and Eleonora. (P579 and counting... ) so I have tons of information from really obscure sources. The Moda book has a LOT of new info. Some of the other info comes from my correspondance back in the 1990s with Janet Arnold about Eleonora's

RE: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toledo 1545 help

Hi Natalie-- There are references that I have found that say Eleonora's steel corsets were made by Master Lorenzo (I think that was his name...) who was Cosimo's cuirassier (armor maker). She wanted these to give her support so she could make public appearances with Cosimo. My opinion about

RE: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toledo 1545 help

read. I have the new book, got it for Christmas...now classes are done for the semester I can sit and read. Thank you for the nudge. Elizabeth On 5/8/06 8:04 PM, monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Natalie-- You can make the gown without an underbodice and kirtle over a corset. How many

RE: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toledo 1545 help

. Farmer Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:26 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toledo 1545 help Quoting monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Michaela-- Right now I'm writing a book on Cosimo and Eleonora. (P579 and counting... ) drooling. Any vague ideas of publication

RE: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toledo 1545 help

Actually _- I'd like the house elf too. It would give me more time. Thanks for the support. When it gets published (even if I have to do it myself!), I PROMISE I'll put it out on the list. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wanda Pease

RE: [h-cost] more gown help

The puffs can be the chemise pulled through, or a fake chemise sleeve tacked inside so it does not shift. You are doing Ren Faire, so the look is improtant. If you don't want to be pulling on your sleeves all day, go for the fake inner sleeve. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] what's your dress dummy's name? (was What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing this spring?

Mine's Uniquely Moniquely-- it is a Uniquely You dressform. She is wearing a pearl partlet and nothing else. :-) Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carolyn Kayta Barrows Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:03 PM To: Historical Costume

RE: [h-cost] looking for extant late 18c - early 19c stays

Sorry to jump in late on this, but the Costume museum at the Fashion Institute of Technology in New York City, N.Y. had one on display until May 13th . The exhibit is down now, but contact them and maybe they can help you. Best Regards- Monica Spence On 14/05/2006, at 1:07 PM, susannah

RE: [h-cost] pricing muslin

Where are you? If you are in the New York/ New Jersey area you can get muslin for about .99 - 2.00 a yard at Joannes, depending on the width. Less if you have a coupon. Unless you are looking for a really wide width that sounds like a LOT of money. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] When and how did you start making costume?

husband and I have dogs (Westies) at our house, who like to butt test the fabric when it gets laid on the floor. Regards to all- Monica Spence ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

RE: [h-cost] New Portrait of Eleonora of Toledo

the was Francesco wanted to remember his mom. Alorri painting would have been posthumous anyway... Bronzino's portraits of our Eleonora show her very gaunt toward the end of her life and her style of clothing is consistant. Best Regards, Monica Spence (Catriona MacDuff in the SCA

RE: [h-cost] New portrait of Eleanora of Toledo found

the was Francesco wanted to remember his mom. Alorri painting would have been posthumous anyway... Bronzino's portraits of our Eleonora show her very gaunt toward the end of her life and her style of clothing is consistant. Best Regards, Monica Spence (Catriona MacDuff in the SCA) -Original

[h-cost] Re: New Portrait of Eleonora of Toledo

and healthy, just the was Francesco wanted to remember his mom. Alorri painting would have been posthumous anyway... Bronzino's portraits of our Eleonora show her very gaunt toward the end of her life and her style of clothing is consistant. Best Regards, Monica Spence (Catriona MacDuff in the SCA

RE: [h-cost] Re: New Portrait of Eleonora of Toledo

number and I will happily wait my turn the next time. Best Regards Monica Spence (Baroness Catriona MacDuff OL OP, etc. in SCA, Kingdom of the East) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sue Clemenger Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:39 AM To: Historical

RE: [h-cost] OT: meeting at SUNY Stony Brook

Go to the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Finish the Symposium and take the Long Island Rail Road from Stony Brook Station to NY Penn Station (That train is going WEST) Get off Take a taxi to the Met. The subways and busses go up there , but unless you know where you are going, it is worth the extra

RE: [h-cost] Best prices on Moda a Firenze?

OMG-- $175 RIDICULOUS. Go to MIchael Shemanshy on the web. http://www.artbooks.com It is less than $100 and I think he includes shipping. Item Number: 45409 Title: Moda a Firenze 1540-1580: Lo stile di Eleonora di Toledo a la sua influenza Author: ORSI LANDINI, ROBERTA, BRUNA NICCOLI

RE: [h-cost] RE: Costuming/ Re-enacting

That is how I got interested in Eleonora of Toledo. I saw her tiny BW portrait in Davenport and later a muchlarger color pic. I was hooked. Now I'm writing a book (novel) on her and Cosimo, her husband. The research has been an amazing experience. Catriona -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] Flat Caps- was there a response in there?

You can try Janet Arnold's Patterns of Fashion 1550- 1620 (I am not sure of the dates). She has a flat cap from the grave of one of the Medicis. You could use that and embellish as needed. Men's and women's hats were pretty much the same for this style. Regards- Monica -Original Message-

RE: [h-cost] Re:History Channel

... unless you have ever been directly involved with a production you don't know the limitations put on a director by the chanel, the director etc. It is not as easy as you may think. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [h-cost] Glove booklett published

Congrats! I got mine the other day! Monica (Dame Catriona MacDuff East) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:45 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Glove booklett

RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

I don't think much of Kohler. There are better sources. Janet Arnold's 3 books Patterns of fashion are a good start if you are doing 16th-20th Centuries. There are no perfect costume books. Start with the primary sources (art) and extant clothing of whatever period you need. Powerpoint is a good

RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

. :-) Monica Spence -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity. --Robert Frost ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h

RE: What would *you* use? (was Re: [h-cost] Racinet

I used it as a text in grad school because that was pretty much all there was (shows my age, huh?)Anyway, I don't recommend it. Too many line drawings, no primary source material, weak bibliography. You can do better. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] Bad historical costume movies

One of the sad things that came out of that movie is not the costumes. I read somewhere that all of the lead actors -- and who knows how many of the crew-- died of cancer. I think it was filmed in somewhere that they had been doing nuclear testing. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] recent history

Don't throw anything out... it is all coming back! Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robin Netherton Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:42 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] recent history On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] iron corset

set off a coughing fit-- perhaps she did not wish to appear ill or weak. Best regards- Monica Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cin Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 7:04 PM To: h-cost Subject: re: [h-cost] iron corset

RE: [h-cost] iron corset

get tuberculosis of the spine. Fran monica spence wrote: Eleonora di Toledo used these (probably) in the early yaers of her infection with TB (Circa 1550). She insisted on being out in public with her husband Duke Cosimo I de Medici and she wore these under her gowns so her posture would stay

RE: [h-cost] Jewish Blue Dye

Not to mention how the snails felt. :-) Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sonja Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Jewish Blue Dye Jewish blue dye from mollusk.  VERY Sorry if a false

RE: [h-cost] striped skirt

People wore stripes and checks during the 16th C. Check out the paintings of Sofanisba Angiusola (sp) Monica (Catriona in SCA) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 10:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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