ate things.
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works to communicate, then it is *far easier* to then write policies
to prevent unwanted interactions, once we have a way to name the end
points in question.
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, doesn't mean that the purpose of it participating in the routing
is to provide *Internet* to the rest of the house. It might only be
talking to my house network to get across it so that it can turn
activate a light switch...
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t have a second interface,
is it? If it's out at the pool, and it has no wired layer2, then it
might well have a second radio (or a second ESSID), to relay. But, it
might also be connected to the wired network in the pool house.
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rough, I don't think this is at all in
scope.
The EMT have the organization and manpower and mandate to have a managed
network. The home network has no manpower, and is seldom organized.
(The more geekier the network, the less organized :-))
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s can be made to
work, but my concern is that a typically KVM/QEMU user could, if the
router code is built-in to the QEMU, rather than into the operating
system, wind up allocating a prefix each time they boot up a single VM,
and while they might not run a lot of VMs at the same time, they migh
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Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
because it basically forms a temporary DAG across the mesh find the most
direct route. If the best route is via the homenet, it won't be found
if the two meshes are partitioned.
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e topology.
That's a good point: many VoIP ATAs want to be the first device so that
they can control the QoS, and ideally get the public IP address.
Does your VoIP box do PPPoE as well?
Or did I misunderstand.
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n the host has a better chance of doing so
without having the wrong address for that link for too long.
I admit that I still don't really understand how I should set my valid
lifetimes. It seems that they can be quite high in general.
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embered by each router.
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Kyoto Plus: watch the video
mit them to turn off the R3/R2 loop for IPv4, making things
work.
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why
their service discovery protocols now fail?
Jim Gettys has repeated many times that multicast on wireless occurs at
much lower data rates (1Mb/s on links that otherwise do 100Mb/s).
Others have said that some access points turn multicast into unicast
frames, but I've not experienced this.
> "Chris" == Chris Elliott writes:
Chris> Often you can buy an access point or a wireless router. Many
Chris> wireless routers have several switched Ethernet ports and a
Chris> single "WAN" Ethernet port. Just don't use the "WAN" port and
Chris> you're bridged. And some wirele
ystems and applications
james> developers. I suggest HOMENET should steer well clear of it,
james> and just about every related problem that is too easily
james> conflated with it.
What is the set of problems left for homenet then?
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nking
that they need 1-IP per customer, when in fact, they need to have
at least a /60 per customer.
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e not changed, then it much the same as MLSRv2, I think.
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f it's /60. I don't see why the ISP would
ever see this.
Or are you saying a mobile device (a smartphone) will only ever get a
/64 to share?
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l it is needed.
So, we might need to consider if we can expire persisted settings after
some long (from the point of view of the network) time, like 1 week...
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n give out different answers to different query
origins. This interacts very poorly with DNS caches, including the ones
on hosts.
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C,
>> some recognized part of 2000::/3, or an entirely new space).
Peter> While ULAs would "reduce" collisions, the general issues would be
the same
Peter> as with RFC1918 space.
Thus why I said ULA-C.
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tion if it is well past
Curtis> the maxage limit and there are no adjacencies.
So, I think you are right in general... the IA-PD might last more than a
week.
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not being able to figure out
Curtis> what is wrong. All the cables fit in the connector. It should
work!
So, I was interrupted yesterday, reading homenet email, in order to go
to my neighbour's house and sort out this EXACT problem.
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reserved for private use...
So, it would be good for zospf text to say something about this.
I think that we can use 32-bits of MAC address in most cases.
Fred> One obviously doesn't actually announce any LSAs using the
Fred> router ID until a unique router id is establish
phone has three interfaces: USB ethernet, wifi, and 3G.
So my laptop and phone can instantly create two links: wifi and USB.
My phone + AP + laptop can also have a loop via wifi + wired.
I don't need all these links up, but I really do want these devices
smart enough to just bring up connecti
hich is 48 bits long.
But OSPF router-id is 32 bits.What is the likelyhood of a collision
in the bottom 32-bits of the MAC?
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]
> "Stephen" == Stephen Farrell writes:
Stephen> I've been reading the list with interest and have a question.
Stephen> When various devices in the home figure out which does what,
Stephen> and do that periodically to handle changes, there's clearly
Stephen> the potential that
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Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx
faith" springs to mind.
DHCP has an NTP server option. Does IP6CP?
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, or some such.
Curtis> Not backwards compatible. The older OSPF routers will see
Curtis> only the non-unique 32 bits and the network won't work.
There are no zOSPF routers today.
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m, but
that's within homenet to fix.
Bootstraping time enough to get DNSSEC to work is important.
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greement that the home network has
to operate independently of the ISP(s), which is one of the reasons for
ULA, and RFC6204 (Basic Requirements for IPv6 Customer Edge Routers)
already provides for this. At the 10,000ft level, homenet is "Advanced
Requirements for ..."
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to
Curtis> set the time of day after a reboot that lost time-of-day.
huh?
DNSSEC just requires the . key be distributed in the router's firmware.
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> "Joe" == Joe Touch writes:
Joe> On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Curtis Villamizar
Joe> wrote:
>> I'm not fond of protocols that rely on time or monotonically
>> increasing reboot counts and have no fallback.
Joe> +1
Joe> Let's not add time as an attack vector.
So, h
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laptop, smartphone, wii, stereo mp3 player, ...
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Kyoto Plus: wa
I read draft-chakrabarti-homenet-prefix-alloc as being the simplest
thing that might work. We discussed this hierarchy at the interim
meeting, and we were not generally happy with it, as it seemed we were
restricting IPv6 to fail whenever IPv4 would fail, when we felt we could
in fact do better.
I felt rather squemish
about the fact that the routers basically pick prefixes without
consulting the edge router who owns that prefix, but I grew to like it.
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Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz
decide
Guillaume> about the solution
Guillaume> to use ?
You need both pieces.
(Please consider a quoting mechanism that is more robust)
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Maybe the times are getting ripe.
Yes Perhaps you see why I care little about Zigbee in my RPL work ;-)
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Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx
deals with, are neither better nor worse. But maybe
there are other things that we need to concern ourselves with.
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the RAs, and would also be in the zOSPF for a solution that
uses that.
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s important.
2) a USB port is increasing common on home routers, it's where you plug
the printer in, or the 16G key or 1TB disk, as the home router
provides NAS as well.
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PSKC transmission profile can be recorded for a
centralized, standardized reference.
so, basically, it's an ASCII file with some <>-based decoration of the
key itself.
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o run zOSPF
(mine is), yet can never transfer files at all? Mine could trivially
scan a QRcode displayed on a laptop screen and do something interesting
with a secret stored in that.
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y transfered.
It's clearly the domain of the IEEE, but a single vertically integrated
vendor who has control (or significant influence) right down to the PHY
could easily innovate within their product line, while still
interoperating
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> "Joe" == Joe Touch writes:
>>> iPhones are (or can be) routers.
>>> iPhones have no microSD.
>>> iPhones have a USB port that does not supply power.
>>
>> Right, we already covered this. You plug them into a USB host
>> device.If you believe this is impractical, oka
that we can count upon being able to specify
HMAC-SHA3 for this work.
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ce Instance ID that is specified to prevent
Acee> inadvertent adjacencies with routers not supporting the
Acee> auto-configuration. If configuration of a pre-shared key is
Acee> required, you no longer have auto-configuration.
I agree.
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from a web
interface to an email with the ISP.
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ating any geek-speak config concepts
Randy> into equivalent mass market concepts that can be easily
Randy> grasped by the average consumer. If we can't figure this out,
Randy> and the resulting model has too much policy or buttons and
Randy> levers to manipulate,
ybe.
Do we need security for open/guest wifi connections? I think definitely.
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h privacy extensions enabled.
Worse, it won't help us if the machine has moved on, and the DNS has
been updated. What we have is a locator for the network, and we need
to be able to translate that to human comprehensible form.
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agree that it's a problem, but it's not clear to me that it's a real
problem. I think that USB ports are becoming ubiquitous.
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ing
Guillaume> to share something with another ISP)?
No, there are no tunnels across the Internet.
The traffic is redirected within the home.
If the ISP provided home router can't speak homenet, then I guess it
won't get the right logo on it.
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tifying by the address in the subnet the deal with)
This is how I imagined the DHCPv6 PD mechanism working before
draft-chakrabarti-homenet-prefix-alloc-01 was written, which imagined a
strict hierarchal tree.
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think that this is going to be a major sticking point.
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r configurations to their onlink
Ole> routers.
so, does this mean we have to write another draft to explain it?
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Y pending
implementation experience. That means that we need to write a MUST
about decapsulating things to your ULA address in IPIP.
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on inexpensive managed switches made by Fred's
preferred network supplier.
Or, to put it another way: if you need wired security, we have it,
and homenet doesn't need to deal with this. If you need to plug
additional homenet routers into the secured wire, then they need to get
past
nnels be "more
Teco> resilient"? :-)
When the number of internal LANs exceeds the number of subnets available
from a particular ISP.
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plemented, and if someone puts it in hardware
($50 Gigabit ethernet capable home routers are not commonly wirespeed
today, but could be tomorrow), then they can reuse a ASIC design.
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layer3, but you aren't letting them on your "secure" wifi)
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use MSTP...
Given that layer-2 can be tunnelled trivially, I see no advantage.
Chairs: I think that the question of minimal security is a difficult
one, and I think that have made no progress on this.
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y easy to do this, if you have a UI you know the user is
going to visit.
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lood with pruning, and no loop detection).
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Kyoto
if this can really work, then some people will ask, again and
again, why not bridge everything, period. (Your answer is one
answer)
b) this really limits everything in the future to being ethernet-like,
while a layer-3 solution liberates us from that.
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ice about doing Martian filtering...)
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Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx1ycLX
113283132 235936 399a0 ospf6d
272449 238483120 299417 49199 /usr/pkg/lib/libzebra.so.0
No all of libzebra might really be used. So 11K code, plus up to 23K.
I think that half of the code can be ripped out (and I wish I had time
to do).
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garden ACLs on authoritative servers) and
happy eyeballs is enough.
A walled-garden is no different than a multiple ISPs in a residence,
except that general internet traffic does not transit that connection.
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s, where the "building" starts initially as a single tenant,
and grows. As such, it may be useful to put a flag in the RAAI that
says, "I am a security boundary".
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er comments.
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Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://
ut these, we are going to have a hard time moving
Mark> forward at all.
And after that, how much security is necessary, vs how much is
sufficient.
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If necessary, add level of NS record.
(IPv4 thinking would lead you to think you do not want to pollute
"public" DNS with RFC1918 A records, but IPv6 has no such problem)
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then a comparison could occur.
What matters here is that the reset-to-factory-defaults does not destroy
the previously saved configuration, but rather moves it aside, yet
leaves it accessible to SNMP.
(And then there is the other cfg stuff, the one starts with Y, I think,
and netconf too...?
gt; is unavoidable and cheap. UPDATE itself is relatively cheap.
Are you asking for a link-local/mDNS-across-the-homenet leap-of-faith
way to do key establishment so that TSIG can be initialized?
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are we going to do with this?
Does this discussion go into the architecture document?
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>>>>> "Mark" == Mark Andrews writes:
Mark> In message <19226.1331046...@marajade.sandelman.ca>, Michael
Richardson writes:
>> >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Andrews writes:
Mark> A significant percentage of home machines wil
e is any issue with SNMP though.
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Kyoto Plus: watch t
dard
Mark> description on how to do "on behalf of".
So, we need no additional protocol, we just need a DHCP option to tell
the host that where this service is available.
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v= Takes a
Dave> boolean
In other words, don't have a loop.
homenet has assumed loops.
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) into a number of data
centre operations specifically so that I could use SNMP. I am not
familiar with dartware... is it: http://www.intermapper.com/
I think that E2E into the home for SNMP is perhaps one of the things
that would motivate an ISP to support homenet.
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ld the application do when $walledgardenns is not
reachable?
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ast
Ray> DNS, mDNS, or xmDNS (per Kerry Lynn's draft), or even something
Ray> that isn't DNS at all?
I want one.
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ion
can demand.
Parts (a-d), belongs in 3.4.
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Kyoto Plus: w
about people with phony letters after their titles
who have never heard of the IETF), we need to have an answer, and that
answer must be very clearly labelled, such that it can be turned off by
people who want it.
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at there is nor only the
"Home", but also the "Trusted home" and "Guest home"
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eone selling a new application to grandma)
So, if we recommend something which does not facilitate e2e, including
incoming connections, then we have killed e2e. While I'm not happy
about Simple Security + PCP, I prefer that to killing e2e.
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w, it will be used in the
context of my f#(#$ .*#$@# is busted!)
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e the ULA is a walled garden. And if it's really
"Joes' office webcam via VPN", then the Enterprise is a walled garden.
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Ray> - multiple ULA /48 Global ID's within a single Homenet is not
Ray> considered an "error"
Yes.
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art with that source IP.
or: If you want to go *there*, you must start from *here*
or: Ingress filtering rules
(with allusions to: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WouldntStartFromHere )
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term.
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Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.c
. I hate myself for helping kill
e2e. I shipped it with split-horizon DNS standard. It was all stupid. )
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rkins.name" in the
report, and thus you knew everything without even consulting your logs.
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ion, acls)?
I have no idea why you like to have stalls.
My network doesn't have any such things, and there is no reason you have
to stall things to do a lookup.
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] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman S
the two SOHOs...)
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] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] m...@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.
round most of the time anyway. For the ISP, it's
up to them.
My only problem is that I don't understand how it works when you have
two ISPs.
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Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works
IETF ROLL WG co-chair.http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/roll/charter/
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