Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
Considering the decline in the number of mainframe shops, the decline in
SHARE attendance is understandable. And lamentable.
SHARE was formed at a time when intercommunication between installations
was limited and systems had many problems. For decades, SHARE (and
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
In a recent note, Edward Jaffe said:
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:50:30 -0700
A connection is established when a FIND/BLDL (w/o NOCONNECT) is
successful for a member. Another FIND/BLDL for the same member
disconnects the old copy and connects the new. A CLOSE
Hi all,
I can shared now after I setup the PDSESHARING(EXTENDED).
refer to OA10840
thanks
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LOTS of ways to replicate from VSAM to Oracle.
You said real time or near real time, to get the updates to VSAM sent
down the wire to Oracle. One conceptual approach is event publishing,
i.e. to capture the events (VSAM updates), perhaps selectively, then push
some or all of the information
Hi folks,
We have some log datasets that are delete/defined every night and under SMS
management they can obviously go to any device within the SG. Due to the
high activity rate and their critical availability/response times for
these 'online' datasets, we need to ensure they are del/def to
Joe,
Assign a Storage Class to these datasets that has Guaranteed Space equal to YES.
You can then direct your allocation to the specific SMS volume of your choosing.
HTH,
Dave O'Brien
From: Joe jeffries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 9/15/2006 5:46
Joe,
What you are remembering is GUARANTEED SPACE, an attribute of SC. Then
code STORCLAS=sc_with_gs_attribute in your JCL along with vol=ser and it
will be honored.
Bob Richards
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Thanks guys,
It all comes back eventually. Just need to make sure they're not multivol
as I don't want the primary alloc spread too far.
JJ
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On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Tom Marchant wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:29:45 -0700, Ale Eba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Should I BYPASS COREQ and IFREQ ...
You should *never* bypass REQs
Tom,
Maybe this might
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 06:15:36 -0500, Joe jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It all comes back eventually. Just need to make sure they're not multivol
as I don't want the primary alloc spread too far.
Since performance seems to be your concern, have you considered making the
data set striped
I'm curious as to what the concensus on this subject is??? If I convert my
PDS's to PDSE's, which in our case would only be in use by LINKLIST/LLA, would
space be reclaimed or would I be forced to stop LLA and issue a SETPROG
LNKLST,UNALLOC to reclaim? There is a large amount of adds and
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 06:56:05 -0500, George D Dranes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm curious as to what the concensus on this subject is??? If I convert my
PDS's to PDSE's, which in our case would only be in use by LINKLIST/LLA,
would
space be reclaimed or would I be forced to stop LLA and issue a
I must be thick headed but how then would I reclaim space in these PDSEs which
are in LINKLIST/LLA?? I'm assuming a typical LLA,REFRESH isn't going to do
it. Thanks for your help.
Quoting Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 06:56:05 -0500, George D Dranes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VVDSFIX !! YAH!
Just had a bunch of corrupted entries in a usercat!
VVDSFIX came to the rescue!
sample error messages from the DIAGNOSE compare.
REASON: 6 - CELL LENGTH TOO LARGE
REASON: 20 - ASSOCIATION NOT FOUND
REASON: 23 - TRUENAME LOOP FAILURE
REASON: 29 - ENTRY MISSING FROM REL.
We have an z/WebSphere app that connects to a Sybase DB. It's been running
successfully for years. I assume you have copied the driver jar file
(jconn2.jar) and put into your HFS somewhere on z/OS. Make sure the
jconn2.jar is in your classpath so your java app can find the Sybase classes
it needs.
Tommy,
How can I edit the PDSE in multiple LPARs.
I don't think you can unless you implement PDSESHARING(ENHANCED) on
all LPARS (must be in same sysplex).
Regards,
John
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at 06:43 AM, Denise P. Kalm [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Chair became accepted practice as a way of making the position sound
less sexist back when people cared.
Doesn't the parliamentary form The chair recognizes foo go back
much further than that?
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at 12:29 PM, Ale Eba [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I received CBPDO tape to install DB2 Version 8.1. When I ran
the APPLY CHECK job I found a number of COREQUISITES and
CONDITIONAL REQUISITES missing. I was not expecting this. Is it
something normal.
Tom,
We've not had performance problems for the dataset, just the occasional
hiccup when they get allocated to a hot volume which then exceeds the
x'500' threshold in XRC. The primary concern is that XRC doesn't block the
volume so striping would just mean we have to DNB more volumes wouldn't
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/14/2006
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Seymour, are you suggesting that he abandon his long term practice of
providing maintenance as zaps just to be more SMP-friendly?
I'm suggesting that
1. He be honest about the RESTORE requirement coming
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/14/2006
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Good old DSS (Dynamic something Subsystem, what was the something,
Seymour?).
Support.
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ISO position; see
Bob,
I too cannot understand why the request was to put the vol. under
CA-Allocate. Just to clarify one of your recommendations to DFSMSdss CONVERTV
NONSMS to make it a non-SMS volume I read up on the section in the DFSMSdss
user guide but it did not provide me with an example. Can you
John,
I too cannot understand why the request was to put the vol. under
CA-Allocate. Just to clarify one of your recommendations to DFSMSdss
CONVERTV NONSMS to make it a non-SMS volume I read up on the section in
the DFSMSdss user guide but it did not provide me with an example. Can
you please
Chris Craddock writes:
. . .
If you have a multi-address space application and you need to serialize
control
structures between them, then those structures must be in common storage,
shared
storage (including above the bar sharing), or in a dataspace accessible
from
each of your partner
Thanks chaps. One further question, is it possible to revert to the
supplied complete conversion image and if so how. I want to display what's
in there that's relevant to our site. I know I could have done that before
I did the customization, but I didn't.
Jim McAlpine
On 9/14/06,
I verified. The volume is empty. I will initialize (ICKDSF) the pack without
the storage group. Can I initialize it as the same volser?
John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John,
I too cannot understand why the request was to put the vol. under
CA-Allocate. Just to clarify one of your
Hi List,
we are planning to go from static linking under IMS to dynamic linking,
COBOL transactions with DB2 access. The main reason for us is to avoid
relinking in case of modules are changed.
Are there any pitfalls, pros and cons about that?
e.g. more CPU cycles and thus higher Software
John,
Can I initialize it as the same volser?
You can use the same volser but you must
drop it from SMS configuration before you
try to allocate a dataset on it.
Regards,
John
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Thanks John. Thanks to all who offered their help.
John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John,
Can I initialize it as the same volser?
You can use the same volser but you must
drop it from SMS configuration before you
try to allocate a dataset on it.
Regards,
John
Member SYS1.SAMPLIB(CUNSISM6) contains the statements which describe the
default conversion image. I think there's no way to switch to the default,
but you can switch to an image which is identical to the default, by
using this sample. Or, you can add conversions you need to the ones IBM
just an fyi - JES2 in z/OS 1.7 ships SYS1.SHASLNKE which is a PDSE and in
LNKLST as shipped- =:0
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Now I've completed the cycle. We can now train
your z/OS applications programmers to:
* work with z/OS UNIX, including setting up a small web site
(Introduction to z/OS UNIX)
* Develop sophisticated z/OS-based web pages using official
standards for HTML, XHTML, CSS, JavaScript, and DOM
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick O'Keefe) writes:
I hate to argue with furniture (and hate even more when it argues back)
but I'm pretty sure there was a SHARE in eithr L.A. or San Francisco
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:49:36 -0500, Joe jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Tom,
We've not had performance problems for the dataset, just the occasional
hiccup when they get allocated to a hot volume which then exceeds the
x'500' threshold in XRC. The primary concern is that XRC doesn't block the
George D Dranes wrote:
I must be thick headed but how then would I reclaim space in these PDSEs which
are in LINKLIST/LLA?? I'm assuming a typical LLA,REFRESH isn't going to do
it. Thanks for your help.
LLA REFRESH should release the connections to any old members. If you
refresh on all
Does anyone know of a mainframe installation in the
West Covina, CA area ?
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Bruce Black wrote:
Three extents described by the F1 DSCB plus fourteen extents
described by each F3 DSCB up to a max of four F3 DSCBs.
Its 13 extents per F3 DSCB. But anyways he was asking about the
volume count limit of 59 in a non-VSAM catalog record, not the extent
count.
Of course,
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:47:36 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
George D Dranes wrote:
I must be thick headed but how then would I reclaim space in these PDSEs
which
are in LINKLIST/LLA?? I'm assuming a typical LLA,REFRESH isn't going to
do
it. Thanks for your help.
LLA
A while back there was a Share presentation Drinking From a Firehose
that talked about the 1.4 to 1.7 move. I printed my copy and then deleted
it. Now we have a couple of team members who want the PDF.
Does anyone have the link for this?
TIA
Daniel McLaughlin
ZOS Systems Programmer
Tom Harper wrote on 09/14/2006 05:56:24 PM:
Frank,
I have more information than I had earlier. A colleague was trying to
read a VB large block tape data set, and it was failing. Their comment
to me was that LBI did not work with DF/SORT. When I couldn't find
anything (due to the difference in
So is this an optional copy of the JES library, or the new and recommended
one?
Daniel McLaughlin
ZOS Systems Programmer
Crawford Company
PH: 770 621 3256
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Required and distributed as a PDSE by IBM.
snip
So is this an optional copy of the JES library, or the new and
recommended one?
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Daniel A. McLaughlin wrote:
A while back there was a Share presentation Drinking From a Firehose
that talked about the 1.4 to 1.7 move. I printed my copy and then deleted
it. Now we have a couple of team members who want the PDF.
Does anyone have the link for this?
/snip
A while back there was a Share presentation Drinking From a Firehose
that talked about the 1.4 to 1.7 move. I printed my copy and then deleted
it. Now we have a couple of team members who want the PDF.
Does anyone have the link for this?
/snip
2892 - One Last Drink from the Firehose:
Thanks Brian, that'll do fine.
Jim McAlpine
On 9/15/06, Brian Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Member SYS1.SAMPLIB(CUNSISM6) contains the statements which describe the
default conversion image. I think there's no way to switch to the
default,
but you can switch to an image which is
If you are at a level of z/OS that supports this service,
you can use environment() to query or set environment
variables from Unix System Services. Otherwise, you
could invoke the env shell command from REXX.
Bill
Larry R. Wright wrote:
Hi all,
Is there a way to set environment variables in a
snip
A while back there was a Share presentation Drinking From a Firehose
that talked about the 1.4 to 1.7 move. I printed my copy and then deleted
it. Now we have a couple of team members who want the PDF.
Does anyone have the link for this?
/snip
Is this what you are looking for?
2892 - One
Thanks to two listers, I have this once again.
Good bunch of folks here, even if we can't agree on semantics.
Daniel McLaughlin
ZOS Systems Programmer
Crawford Company
PH: 770 621 3256
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Tom,
First off, can you point dynamic allocations to a specific SC? - If so I'm
sorted as we already have a particular SG that has every volume set to
DONOTBLOCK. If you can specify SC for dynamic alloc's then I have an SC
that points to this SG.
The problem is, these datasets do require, and
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:47:36 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
George D Dranes wrote:
I must be thick headed but how then would I reclaim space in these PDSEs
which
are in LINKLIST/LLA?? I'm assuming a typical LLA,REFRESH isn't going to do
it. Thanks for your help.
LLA REFRESH
i remember several shares being regularly on the order of 5000 and
comments about the size limiting the locations available for the
meetings. then there were a couple combined guide/share meetings that
were a little larger (maybe around 6000?)
SHARE and GUIDE had two combined meetings, the first
JES2 supports up to 253 spool extents ... not 59. And that limit is
due to the extent count in the DEB being only one byte wide (255 less
two for the checkpoint data sets).
That is a JES2 issue, not a catalog issue like the 59 vol limit
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Joe,
You can use the ACS routines to test for data set name and set your
assignments accordingly. I'm not sure what question you are asking in
regard to dynamic allocation. Are you saying the data set name is not
consistent?
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company
I was snubbed at SHARE in
On 15 Sep 2006 06:24:39 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Hi List,
we are planning to go from static linking under IMS to dynamic linking,
COBOL transactions with DB2 access. The main reason for us is to avoid
relinking in case of modules are changed.
Are there any pitfalls, pros and
Mark Zelden wrote:
So back to the OP's question... I can't see any real operational
benefit to converting an LLA controlled PDS to PDSE.
PDSE offers benefits over PDS above and beyond space management. Many
modern programming structures and techniques *require* the use of
program objects.
Bruce Black wrote:
JES2 supports up to 253 spool extents ... not 59. And that limit is
due to the extent count in the DEB being only one byte wide (255 less
two for the checkpoint data sets).
That is a JES2 issue, not a catalog issue like the 59 vol limit.
Precisely! JES2 uses only a single
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:44:32 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Zelden wrote:
So back to the OP's question... I can't see any real operational
benefit to converting an LLA controlled PDS to PDSE.
PDSE offers benefits over PDS above and beyond space management. Many
modern
OOH, OOH, question::
But the OP was asking about converting his user LNKLST PDS to PDSE just
for the sake of eliminating the need to COMPRESS.
Here's my ask for I know not the answer and deem this question germane to
the discussion.
I have a LLA PDSE of 10 cyl. I am adding to it, or replacing
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:02:16 -0400, Daniel A. McLaughlin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OOH, OOH, question::
But the OP was asking about converting his user LNKLST PDS to PDSE just
for the sake of eliminating the need to COMPRESS.
Here's my ask for I know not the answer and deem this question germane
Yes I did mean lnklist at IPL and you answered the question by
interpolation, extrapolation, and stipulation.
Daniel McLaughlin
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Crawford Company
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We don't have any problems here, either (zOS 1.6). If you are able to
connect, but not log on, I would expect the Sybase admin should be able to
tell you what they are or are not receiving, if they are receiving garbage,
whatever.
Aaron
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:02:01 -0700, Biff Red [EMAIL
Mark Zelden wrote:
But the OP was asking about converting his user LNKLST PDS to PDSE just
for the sake of eliminating the need to COMPRESS.
True. But, always present is the law of unintended consequences.
Converting to a program object library, and letting them know you've
done so, opens
Hi all!,
I'm trying to install CICS TS 3.1 Serverpac and I'm having a little
problem that I don't know if is a bug or a misconception.
I remember (if I remember well) that the last time that I have
installed a Serverpac, all the values that I selected in the
Variables step were later used in
Did you do the GENSKEL process?
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First off, can you point dynamic allocations to a specific SC?
Yes, there is a dynamic allocation key that passes the requested storage
class, same for data class and management class.
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Not directly related to the mainframe but of interest, I
think: The Wall Street Journal (Sept 11) gave its top
'Technology Innovation Award' to Sun Microsystems for a
product called 'DTrace' (google on 'SUN' 'DTRACE' to
see a number of entries).
.
Quoting from the article by Michael Toddy:
While
traditional trouble-shooting programs can take several
days of testing to locate a problem, the new technology,
called DTrace, is able to track down problems quickly
and relatively easily, even if the cause is buried deep
in a complex computer system.
Can you say z/OS System Trace
Maybe it's solar powered...
GROAN
It is Friday! Mazel Tov.
Daniel McLaughlin
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bruce Black
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sun DTrace
snip
Can you say z/OS System Trace and SLIP?
snip
And Voila! a patent for this will be
I don't know what date the Sterling acquisition refers to but in the
past couple of years I was still receiving maintenance in ZAP format for
CA-1 5.2 (before it went out of support). Thankfully it was a very
small number of SYSMODs.
-Original Message-
From: Russell Witt [mailto:[EMAIL
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:04:48 -0400, Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Behalf Of Bruce Black
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sun DTrace
snip
Can you say z/OS System Trace and SLIP?
snip
And Voila! a patent for this will be granted
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/15/2006
at 11:47 AM, Bill Lalonde [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
If you are at a level of z/OS that supports this service, you can use
environment() to query or set environment
variables from Unix System Services.
Whose environment variables? The process that the REXX
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:19:52 -0500, Dave Kopischke wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:04:48 -0400, Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) wrote:
And Voila! a patent for this will be granted to Sun for coming up with a
new and innovative debugging system.
Assuming Microsoft doesn't already have one that is generic
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:33:08 -0500, Tom Schmidt wrote:
(It originally appeared in Madison's own The Onion but I couldn't
immediately find it on their web site.)
Ah! They went to school with Vice President Dan Mr. Potatoe Quayle*:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29130
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:20:40 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whose environment variables? The process that the REXX code is running
in or the process that invoked it? Does the default Unix shell in z/OS
support .cmd for running cmd in the same process as the shell?
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:49:39 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Whose environment variables? The process that the REXX code is running
in or the process that invoked it? Does the default Unix shell in z/OS
support .cmd for running cmd in the same process as the shell?
Yes. I knew it
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:12:02 -0500, Staller, Allan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Required and distributed as a PDSE by IBM.
...
TCP/IP's SEZALOAD is is an obligatory PDSE. I don't know if it *has* to
be in LINKLIST but I've never heard of it not being there. But datasets
like that aren't the
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
TCP/IP's SEZALOAD is is an obligatory PDSE. I don't know if it *has* to
be in LINKLIST but I've never heard of it not being there. But datasets
like that aren't the issue. You aren't going to be running out of your
target libraries (are you???) so they won't be in your
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dgt2r241.pdf
Chapter 3 under CONVERTV command.
Bob Richards
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Dawes
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:56 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject:
The process that the REXX code is running in. So, to see the environment
variables, the tso shell command would have to be started using address sh
from the same REXX code. That is what I understood the OP to be doing but
it is probably better not to assume.
Bill
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:20:40
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:18:24 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
... You aren't going to be running out of your
target libraries (are you???) so they won't be in your linklist
I don't understand what you're asking here.
I was originally going to say (are
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:46:10 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
As for this Share's attendance compared to prior years. In the same
session that the chair was talking to me, one of the tables told me that
in the late 90's they peaked at about
On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 14:02 -0400, Bruce Black wrote:
Can you say z/OS System Trace and SLIP?
Don't be so dismissive Bruce.
Looks cute.
I did install Solaris 10 (still have it on one of my systems somewhere)
but didn't like it.
Might be worth resurrecting to have a look at DTrace a bit.
Any
On Sep 15, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Schwarz, Barry A wrote:
I don't know what date the Sterling acquisition refers to but in the
past couple of years I was still receiving maintenance in ZAP
format for
CA-1 5.2 (before it went out of support). Thankfully it was a very
small number of SYSMODs.
At 07:47 -0700 on 09/15/2006, Edward Jaffe wrote about Re: PDSE's in
LINKLIST and LLA:
George D Dranes wrote:
I must be thick headed but how then would I reclaim space in these
PDSEs which are in LINKLIST/LLA?? I'm assuming a typical
LLA,REFRESH isn't going to do it. Thanks for your help.
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:01:07 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 13:18:24 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...The start of my LNKLST
definition (in PROGxx) look like this:
LNKLST DEFINE NAME(IPLTIME)
LNKLST ADD NAME(IPLTIME) DSN(SYS1.SHASLNKE)
As SHARE attendance increased, the number of cities where it would fit
dwindled. I believe there was indeed a Task Force on Growth (TFOG) which
considered constraining attendance. Based on the attendance trend (from 6000
down to 1000 or so) since TFOG was chartered, this was clearly one of
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