BTW: I know *existing* OS/390 application using more than 256 bytes in
PARM.
I really would like to see a (working!) example of such a gismo...
I do it regularly with HLASM called from Rexx (not from JCL). Or,
OK, if it is not from PARM= in JCL, then I can see that one can do that.
you
Hello,
first of all, happy new year!
2th, finally, we have included $P to fix the problem.
Regards
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I am trying to send e-mail from os390 using socket programming. But we are
getting following error in syslog.
*IKJ574I NO SPACE* *IN BROADCAST DATA SET FOR MAIL*
Anyone have idea regarding this ?
Thanks
JAcky
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It look like you are using a TSO / Console SEND command, not an email.
The message might not relate to the email, but to a notify parameter you
have in your JOB card. What I am trying to say is, that the message is
gennerated as the jobs ends, not as part of your application program. to
remove
Hi Lucy.
I don't understand what you perceive your problem to be, nor the reference
to Tivoli, but we have a couple of partitioned 3494-L10s.
Are you saying that you are running the 3494 partitioned and do not
believe that the tape range should be in the TCDB for the Plex in question?
If so,
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Anybody know where the ASCII-EBCDIC (and vice-versa)
conversion tables for
We used to have a lot of trouble with this. W went to user level broadcast data
set
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 12/30/2006
at 04:40 PM, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Does anyone know how one might write a full-screen Rexx debugger,
like z/XDC or Xpediter?
You'd have to take over the input and the output routines. Look at
PMREXX in OS/2.
However, if you want something
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 12/29/2006
at 01:07 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
However, if desired I can go on and on and on about another lawsuit
that IBM has going at present.
SCOX, née Caldera?
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
01/01/2007
at 02:17 PM, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I cannot think of ANYTHING where I would consider
TEST to be superior.
I've run into cases where I had to drop back to TEST. I don't know
whether the issues have been resolved by now.
Aside from the
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 12/29/2006
at 06:16 PM, Crispin Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Any suggestions on ways we could have a tape drive 3490 in a remote
location attached to our mainframe.
How large is the file? If speed is not important than I would expect
the file to be small, in which
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 01/02/2007
at 12:51 PM, Richards.Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
A little testy, are we? Relax, the year is too early yet for
Compuware to take exception to anything! Sheesh. :-)
No vendor likes to be taken for a different vendor. I thought that
Mark's complaint was quite
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 01/02/2007
at 01:33 PM, Carol Srna [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Where I was born and raised that's not only how withdrawl was
spelled, that's how it was pronounced. Along with most of the
English language :-)
Would that be Southern with drawl?
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/31/2006
at 09:57 PM, Jim Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The only losers in this could be the State IT workers
What are the taxpayers, chopped liver?
The budget shell games, which both parties engage in, drive up the
cost and reduce the quality of service. What's
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/01/2007
at 05:21 PM, John S. Giltner, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
If the source file is actually using CRLF to terminate the records,
that may be the problem. Unix normally terminates files with CR.
I believe that Unix[1] terminates with LF and Mac OS terminates
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/30/2006
at 08:07 PM, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Given that REXX supports interactive debugging,
FSVO interactive debugging; the term normally encompasses more than
just
trace ?i
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/31/2006
at 10:22 AM, Binyamin Dissen
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/02/2007
at 08:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Not obvious, apparently, to IBM (nor to many contributors to this
list (I am not among them), who would prefer to see the restriction
remain).
FSVO many.
I've seen messages criticizing specific
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 12/29/2006
at 01:07 PM, McKown,
We used to have a lot of trouble with this. W went to user level broadcast data
sets.
See SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSOxx)
SEND
OPERSEND(ON)
USERSEND(ON)
SAVE(ON)
CHKBROD(ON)
LOGNAME(USER.BRODCAST)
Dennis Roach
United Space
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Subject: Re: Using FTP on z/OS to get csv file from unix box
running ipswitch ws_ftp.
In
That was my fault; I got them mixed up. Sorry about that to the Compuware
people. When I was a Cobol programmer, long ago, Xpediter was the bee's knees,
and I couldn't even begin to estimate the cost savings. They would have been
huge.
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 07:24:44 -0500 Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/30/2006
: at 08:07 PM, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
:Given that REXX supports interactive debugging,
:FSVO interactive debugging; the term normally encompasses more than
Those are good points and something that I thought about. It wouldn't be
useful if it didn't work in all environments like ISPF, IPCS, OMVS, etc.
Which means, I think, that one would have to somehow start the exec with the
equivalent of TRACE ?I and be able to monitor and control the
I was looking at the CP idea, but (and please forgive me if this is totally
stupid) can you start a new CP from an existing TSO session? I think so.
And if you do, can you interact with the parent CP? I think so because of
this: QMF is its own CP, no? And from QMF I can go into an ISPF edit
thank you to all who replied - i got the information I needed
Chris Hoelscher
IDMS DB2 Database Administrator
Humana Inc
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 16:29:05 +0100 Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
:I was looking at the CP idea, but (and please forgive me if this is totally
stupid) can you start a new CP from an existing TSO session? I think so.
By CP, I was referring to VM CP. Not TSO CP.
VM CP is a hypervisor
Ah yes. We recently lost use of it and are in mourning.
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/04/2007
09:40:14 AM:
. When I was a Cobol programmer, long ago, Xpediter
was the bee's knees, and I couldn't even begin to estimate the cost
savings. They would have
Hi
I was in a meeting yesterday and I had to discuss the cost of shutting off
our old RVA.
It will cost over $1000.00 to just discontinue service for this box.
Well our Microsoft guys said they could buy a small server for that price.
Our UNIX guys said they have never heard
Oh, by the way if you are VM/CMS, then there is of course:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?TRACEXEC
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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:50 PM
To:
Steve - Thanks! We are thinking it is our CBRUXENT exit. Tivoli manages
the UNIX stuff for backups etc, on the mainframe we use Ca:DISK.
We were thinking we should NOT be able to view the Tivoli tapes - only the
range assigned for mainframe use.
Thanks, again!
Lucy
Binyamin Dissen wrote:
By CP, I was referring to VM CP. Not TSO CP.
VM CP is a hypervisor which runs MVS as a client.
from long ago and far away, I had done IPCS superset written in rexx (when it
was still called rex and hadn't been release as a product) ... which was
initially line-mode
I think it's time to give these young upstarts a When I Was Your Age
tirade...
When I was your age, we breadboarded our equipment - none of those fancy
macros for us, nosirreebobcattail!
When I was your age, we knew exactly what all those flashing lights stood
for.
When I was your age, we
When they found out what I paid for maintenance per year for 500gib I
couldn't get them to stop laughing.
I bought an external 500GB USB2 backup disk for a home system yesterday
for a couple of hundred bucks. So yeah, even though things have come
down a long way, mf costs are still out in the
I, too, disconnected an old RVA - about 8 months ago. I was able to
show management that they could buy a brand new DS6800 box with 3 TB
disk to replace my RVA (with 200 GB physical) and pay for it well within
the 4 year warranty period, just in maintenance and software cost
savings - and get
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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:23 AM
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Subject: Re: Just another example of mainframe costs.
When they found out what I paid for
Charles Mills wrote:
You can write code that Rexx will call for all I/O including Say. See
Chapter 14 of the TSO Rexx reference. I have done this sort of thing; it
is
not for the faint-hearted.
I've done it too, and indeed it's not for the faint-hearted. The
documentation leaves much to the
You have too many products. Delete VTAMSWITCH. Have users log directly
into whatever they want with the TN3270 emulator on their workstation.
You may run into some old restrictions about a single user with multiple
sessions, but that is just a local security policy that should be easy
to fix.
Hello:
We have a configuration consisting of a LPAR1 and a LPAR5 on a Z800 at
our home site.
We have another Z800 at our DR site which is an exact clone of our home
site.
We replicate our disk image home to DR.
When doing DR tests we spend a lot of time dinking around getting the DR
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George Bly wrote:
Hi
I was in a meeting yesterday and I had to discuss the cost of shutting
off
our old RVA.
It will cost over $1000.00 to just discontinue service for this box.
Excuse me, why do you need to pay for DISCONTINUE ???
Is my English so bad, so I should understand it as
If your concern is to get to different PARMLIB members, one way is to
create a new LOADxx member in your IPLPARM data set which points to the
DR-specific IEASYSxx member. Then at the DR site, IPL either LPAR1 or
LPAR5 and specify the new LOADxx member suffix.
Don Imbriale
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R.S. wrote:
It will cost over $1000.00 to just discontinue service for this box.
Excuse me, why do you need to pay for DISCONTINUE ???
Is my English so bad, so I should understand it as $1000/month for
support (not to lack of it)?
It's like the old telephone joke: if you don't want
Tried something similar for a while and finally just gave up. The two
locations were always different enough to make life, well, interesting.
And then we replaced one box where the IODF's were not even compatible.
So, I just run them as two different machines, each with their own
unique IOCDS. I
Until now my Shark has been defined as two control units attached to
four channels.
After adding additional disk capacity it will appear to be four control
units on those four channels.
I would like to dynamically activate the two new control units and
associated I/O devices.
When I tried to do
We have been asked by IBM if any SSI (following a specific SSI in the list
of SSIs) could be modifying flags in messages' WQEs. Is there a trace
that could help answer that? I see that there is a COMP=SYSOPS CTRACE
but haven't seen a good description of that. Is that helpful for the?
If so,
Try a stepwise approach. Take two channels offline, reconfigure, and
bring them back on line. Then take the other two off and do those.
Or do the channels one at a time if you cannot tolerate two off at the
same time.
That worked for me when we did a 'hot' migration from a Shark to a
DS8100.
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R.S. wrote:
It will cost over $1000.00 to just discontinue service
for this box.
Excuse me, why do you need to pay for DISCONTINUE ???
Is my English so bad, so I should understand it as
I bought an external 500GB USB2 backup disk for a home system
yesterday for a couple of hundred bucks.
You are not doing an apples-to-apples comparison.
Yes I do know the difference and I know it's not an apples to apples
comparison. The point is that the drives for these cheap and cheerful
All,
For those who have not made the migration off z/OS 1.4 by March 31,
2007, it will become VERY expensive.
We are cutting over the end of this month to z/OS 1.7, so we are okay.
But, we have found out that if the cutover did not occur by March 31st,
it would cost a good deal of money for
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:15:50 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:
Most of us around here routinely run half a dozen or more concurrent
sessions. We are starting to see second monitors on some workstations to
increase the number of visible windows.
You are only STARTING to see SECOND monitors on some
For those who have not made the migration off z/OS 1.4 by March 31,
2007, it will become VERY expensive.
We are cutting over the end of this month to z/OS 1.7, so we are okay.
But, we have found out that if the cutover did not occur by March 31st,
it would cost a good deal of money for
Just one of those mainframe costs.
OF COURSE
George
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All,
For those who have not made the migration off z/OS 1.4 by
March 31, 2007, it will become VERY expensive.
We are cutting over the end of this month to z/OS 1.7, so we are okay.
But, we
Would the mainframe exist if prices had not been driven down by PCM's
(software and hardware) to the point that they compete well with other
technologies?
On the other hand how crucial was Linux in driving demand for Ascii
servers? What would M$ charge if they had competition only from
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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:35 PM
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Would the mainframe exist if prices had not been
Is it possible to reassign a tape volume to HSM's target tape volumes
for volume space management, eg PPSM's T01=, after it has been taken away
by a ML2 recall? Sort of like a reversed TAPERECALLLIMITS or
In our scenario we only keep a couple of partial ML2 tapes and PPSM will
call for a
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/04/2007
01:17:29 PM:
We have been asked by IBM if any SSI (following a specific SSI in the
list
of SSIs) could be modifying flags in messages' WQEs. Is there a trace
that could help answer that? I see that there is a
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Behalf Of Craddock, Chris
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:29 PM
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Subject: Re: Just another example of mainframe costs.
I bought an external 500GB USB2 backup disk for a home
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From: IBM
Hello all,
I was finally successful in updating the USSTAB
1. Linked modified module
2. refreshed LLA
3. Issued OBEYFILE
4. Logged off/on LPAR
5. Started TN3270 session and was able to use shortcut
thanks to everyone!!
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The biggest WOW! that ever happened here was when we had an OSA die. The
second OSA took up the slack automatically, with absolutely NO interruption to
service.
This kind of WOW! has been around for a lon time!
Remember IMS/XRF (not needed with SYSPLEX)?
The first time we had an auto
All of these statements are true enough. But the one that makes the day
is the one that says 'but I was able to show management ... and save'.
Performance issues, of course, serve a good supporting role.
A boss somewhere was recently heard saying of a proposed penalty box 2nd
mainframe: 'And
Lucy,
sounds like you may already have this in hand, but for info...
CBRUXENT works in conjunction with the REJECT statements in the DFRMM
parameters (EDGRMMxx), but I don't know how TMS achieves the same
functionality.
We have had issues in the past where tapes appeared in the TCDB for
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:52:02 -0500, Jim Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
The routing to WTO SSI function routines is done by SSI, not
Console, so the SYSOPS CTRACE will not help you a snapshot
after each function routine. Your choices would be:
1. SLIP IF,A=TRACE in IEFJRASP with a DATA
On 4 Jan 2007 13:16:06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rodie, Rick) wrote:
I had a chat with my old boss from a decade ago. Software, not
hardware, is the real issue.
Total cost of ownership for a given level of security, reliability,
and dependability should be the issue.
But marketing and
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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:48 PM
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On 4 Jan 2007 13:16:06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip-
Hi
I was in a meeting yesterday and I had to discuss the cost of shutting off our old RVA.
It will cost over $1000.00 to just discontinue service for this box.
Well our Microsoft guys said they could buy a small server for that price.
Rick and Steve and others make points along the lines of...
And when they stop laughing at that, tell them how much throughput and
multi-tasking a mainframe can do compared to their wimpy Windows
boxes.
How many servers it takes to match even ONE z/OS system, and how much
floor space,
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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 4:07 PM
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snip
Know the feeling, George. That srt of attitude
But, we have found out that if the cutover did not occur by March 31st, it
would cost a good deal of money for continued support.
I honestly do not understand this statement.
IBM has always supported 'unsupported' on a time and materials basis.
We were out of support on OS/390 for 9 months
snip---
I think it's time to give these young upstarts a When I Was Your Age tirade...
When I was your age, we breadboarded our equipment - none of those fancy macros
for us, nosirreebobcattail!
When I was your age, we knew exactly what all
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/04/2007
04:27:45 PM:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:52:02 -0500, Jim Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
...
The routing to WTO SSI function routines is done by SSI, not
Console, so the SYSOPS CTRACE will not help you a snapshot
after
Amen, brother. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
As current events show, you don't win a war by kidding yourself about what
the enemy is like.
The customer is right. If people are buying non-mainframe boxes, there is a
reason. Oh yeah, clever marketing. Wrong. You can't sell much of anything
CC just wrote:
...
Mainframes have many fine attributes, but
they're not the king of the hill any more. Not even close. Sorry.
Damn !!!.
You trying to say I should get back to debugging that kernel module I was
tooling around with rather than running GRS traces on that other box ???
Man, those
-snip---
And oh boy, I get to be the bad guy again! With all due respect, you
guys need to get out more. Your perceptions on the relative scale and
performance (and even reliability) of the squatty boxes are well out
of date.
So how many
---snip
The only losers in this could be the State IT workers
What are the taxpayers, chopped liver?
The budget shell games, which both parties engage in, drive up the
cost and reduce the quality of service. What's happening in Texas is
happening
My current client has a V2X2 and is thinking about replacing it with a
Shark. SnapShot is used to snap 600 volumes in about 5-10 minutes. The
physical tape backups are done from the snaps and take about 8 hours. This
DR process is fully tested and works great. My main concern if we replace
Some of the squatty boxes are blindingly fast at raw compute power,
blasting MF engines right out of the box. But how many business
applications are just raw computing?
Mathematically speaking, O(0)
the ones I've ever seen require significant amounts of I/O, and MF is
KING for I/O, because
No, as another has pointed out, if you want to buy an extended support
contract to allow you to report and have IBM fix new problems without
the uncertainty of time-and-materials, it's gonna cost big bucks.
We were actually running os/390 2.10 for over a year unsupported
without costing us
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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:28 PM
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Subject: V2X2 vs. Shark (SnapShot v. FlashCopy)
My current client has a V2X2 and is thinking about replacing it with a
V2X2
I've been involved in storage management since 1981 (way pre-SMS).
What is a V2X2?
When in doubt.
PANIC!!
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According to simple google search on v2x2 disk it is a StorageTek (ie
Sun) Disk Array.
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JME Software LLC
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No, as another has pointed out, if you want to buy an extended support
contract to allow you to report and have IBM fix new problems without the
uncertainty of time-and-materials, it's gonna cost big bucks.
OK! That's a diFferent issue.
I would never pay for an extended support contract.
Hi Tom,
We have used the SnapShot process on a STK V2X ( eariler model ) and we
have
used FlashCopy on a HDS9980V. We have not experienced any subsystem
performance
issues with either subsystem. The issue we did encounter was trying to
explain to
management why we needed 'more DASD' on the
Okay, my curiosity is peeked. We have DMX box (EMC) so for our process for
production packs/DR packs we need a total of 3 volumes. So I have my prod
pack, my Replicate pack and a SNAP (Using FDR Instance).
How does IBM or HDS differ from that. Which uses less dasd and how is that
done? I have
Hi Lizette,
My comment about the STK Log Structured Array ( LSA ) mechanism was a
comparison
to all the other mainframe DASD vendors ( IBM, HDS EMC ). The STK LSA is
a method
of storing the data internally within the DASD subsystem. As far as I
know, no other mainframe
DASD vendor used ( the
Hi Lindy,
I have used the IBM Object REXX for Windows product. IBM provided a
'interactive workbench'
tool with the IBM Object REXX for Windows product. However, I noticed that
when IBM gave the
Object REXX product to the open source community, the announcement
specifically indcated
the
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 08:58:48 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Ticic wrote:
-- snip --
I'm trying to trace some SCOPE=STEP ENQ's.
I RTFMed.
I started GRS Monitor (ISGRUNAU).
I modified ISGAMF00 member by putting GFLG FILTER=N.
Then assembled, linkedited, issued F LLA,REFRESH, then
F
I would hate to get a reputation as anti-mainframe -- like CC --, but the
discussion concerning PSI and their use of Intel Xeon processors to
emulate/simulate/whatever they do a z/Series machine should have made
everyone realize the power in the non-mainframe chips.
And when you get down to
Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/01/2007
at 05:21 PM, John S. Giltner, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
If the source file is actually using CRLF to terminate the records,
that may be the problem. Unix normally terminates files with CR.
I believe that Unix[1]
In a message dated 1/4/2007 4:48:18 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On second thought, don't bother; they'd just find another way to waste
our money. :-(
Or drive up the price of YSB..
In a message dated 1/4/2007 6:04:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Have you heard that m$ wants to charge for the patches to automate the new
Daylight Savings Time changes back to March?
What versions of Windoze? Mine came automagically for XP last week. Too
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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:56 PM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My comment about the STK Log Structured Array
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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: V2X2 vs. Shark (SnapShot v. FlashCopy)
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you are running bleeding edge, you might want a support contract, but 1.4 is
hardly bleeding edge. I know we ran VM 5.1 software until 1999, which was out
of support for at least 5 years. When we shut down our datacenter at PH, we
were running z/OS 1.2, which was out of support for 1 to 2
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