I've got MACRF=(GL,PL) in my programmes and it works. ;)
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At 01:27 AM 8/21/2007, you wrote:
Peter Hunkeler has
Dave Kopischke wrote in reply to John Gilmore
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:27:06 +, john gilmore wrote:
Peter Hunkeler has suggested that I have been exhibiting too much (and
growing) impatience here, and I must agree. Good luck to all of you.
John Gilmore
Ashland, MA 01721-1817
USA
The issue is quite possibly scalability. Only a tiny fraction of Solaris
users need huge
machines, and scalability is something IBM is quite good at. It might make
good business
sense for Solaris to cede the very top end to IBM and avoid the huge expense
of extreme
scalability when
In the LPServe started task there will be a lot of dynamic allocations
during the receiving of data that must be printed using the JES2 spool.
These dynamic allocations are done randomly on our attached dasd.
Does anybody know a way of allocating these temporary files on a dedicated
volume? In
We do not use SMS.
You should.
It would be easy, then.
I implemented SMS in the early 1990's, warts and all.
17 years later, it's much better.
And, it works.
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Johnny Luo wrote:
Steve,
I also believe it should be (GL,PM) after I checked my personal notes. I
remember clearly that I wrote a test program to verify that three months
ago. (On z/os 1.7)
H. I'd have to see the program.
From DFSMS Using Data Sets, p. 398:
When you update a data set in
Steve,
Here is my program:
***
*AUTHOR: JOHNNY *
*DATE : 05/11/07
*DESCRIPTION: UPDATE A PS,FB FILE USING QSAM
*I-OFILE: INVMAST(PS,FB,50)
interesting this topic should come up - i just did an exercise to reblock
the TMC, and to add about 400,000 volume records + 150,000 DSNB records on
Sunday (in Production).
with BLKSIZE=340, the old copy was 9600 trks with 93% used.
with BLKSIZE=8840, i allocated 9000 trks -- used 61%
amazing!
Johnny Luo wrote:
Steve,
Here is my program:
***
*AUTHOR: JOHNNY *
*DATE : 05/11/07
*DESCRIPTION: UPDATE A PS,FB FILE USING QSAM
*I-OFILE:
Thanks, Steve. I'll fix my program as well as my notes right now.
I must say I always fear to deal with i/o because it's so complicated and
full of various parameters.
On 8/21/07, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah! You see: you said you were going to use Put Move
(MACRF=(GL,PM)),
Looking for recommendations on adding an 80 megabyte load module to the
LPA. What are the negatives. The reason we would like to do this is that
one of our application programs that use this module can be used by 1 to
10 jobs running at the same time. Our thought is that by making this
That's interesting. I got my present job because a recruiter saw my
resume on Monster. However, I didn't include anything in my resume that
I would particularly consider confidential. All I included was my name,
address, phone number, email address, and work and education history. I
didn't
I need to define DASD array to MVS.
It will be escon connected, CU type is 2105, ESS 800. Total number of
3390B + 3390A devices is 3072 (12 LCUs).
I need to acces only part of devices in each CU, i.e. 30 3390B devices
of 100 existing in each LCU. The rest will remain undefined (those disks
I suspect that UPDAT is a special case and that, for PUTX, it may not
matter whether you specify MACRF=(GL,PL) or MACRF=(GL,PM).
In DFSMS Using Data Sets, p. 353, it refers to:
GET-locate, PUTX-update. Processed in an input buffer and returned to the
same data set.
And, on p.355:
UPDAT mode.
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:36:07 -0500, Mark S. House wrote:
Looking for recommendations on adding an 80 megabyte load module to the
LPA. What are the negatives. The reason we would like to do this is that
one of our application programs that use this module can be used by 1 to
10 jobs running at
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who uses the Run Time Library
Services (RTLS) function in z/OS which covers, basically:
SET RTLS command
DISPLAY RTLS command
CSVRTLS macro
CSVRTAA mapping macro
CSVRTLxx parmlib member
RTLS system parameter (IEASYSxx)
These services were developed for LE
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:40:32 -0500, Ambat Ravi Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
only hiccup was, the Common Tape Subsystem address space choked (80A-10)
when started at REGION=3M. when asked, the regional CA support simply
stated to bump it up to 4M, but no calculations offered.
It's 2007 -
Two questions/comments:
1. Is the module AMODE 31 RMODE 31? If not, you are taking a sugnificant
chunk of below the line storage. Is it worth it?
If it is AMODE/RMODE 31, then you should be OK.
2. Is the module truly reentrant? If not, then it doesn't belong in LPA.
Jon L. Veilleux
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark S. House
Looking for recommendations on adding an 80 megabyte load
module to the LPA. What are the negatives. The reason we
would like to do this is that one of our application programs
that use this
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark S. House
Looking for recommendations on adding an 80 megabyte load module to
the LPA. What are the negatives. The reason we would like
to do this
is that one of our application programs that use
Ah! You see: you said you were going to use Put Move
(MACRF=(GL,PM)), but you actually used Put Locate (or,
more precisely, PUTX Locate) because your PUTX only
has one operand. To use PUTX Move mode you need to
specify two operands: the DCB and location where the
record should be put from; so you
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:36:07 -0500, Mark S. House
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looking for recommendations on adding an 80 megabyte load module to the
LPA. What are the negatives. The reason we would like to do this is that
one of our application programs that use this module can be used by 1 to
10
Ah! You see: you said you were going to use Put Move
(MACRF=(GL,PM)), but you actually used Put Locate (or,
more precisely, PUTX Locate) because your PUTX only
has one operand. To use PUTX Move mode you need to
specify two operands: the DCB and location where the
record should be put from; so you
I was amazed to see how many posters effectively said don't use this
technique!
QSAM update-in-place is a very simple, easy-to-use and effective
update technique that has been used in countless applications for
goodness knows how many years. Only the application programer will
be aware when
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Two questions/comments:
1. Is the module AMODE 31 RMODE 31? If not, you are taking a
sugnificant chunk of below the line storage.
Yeah, like 500% of what exists down there. :-)
If it is
John Chase said:
Yeah, like 500% of what exists down there. :-)
Right...DUH. I slept through that one
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John Chase said:
Yeah, like 500% of what exists down there. :-)
Right...DUH. I slept through that one
Well, in retrospect, I suppose it could use overlays.
-jc-
John Chase said:
Well, in retrospect, I suppose it could use overlays.
OH GOD! I hope not!
I don't think that there are many application programmers that have even
heard of overlay programs, let alone code one and the corresponding
binder statements, correctly. Not to mention trying to debug
Hi,
I didn't forget about all of you who helped me. Thank you for the
suggestions. I opened a PMR with IBM, it appears that the unit being
passed to SMS is zeros. I am waiting for a slip from them. We did change
the freespace and the file shrunk by 15%. I will update when I have more
info.
Dean
Veilleux, Jon L wrote:
John Chase said:
Yeah, like 500% of what exists down there. :-)
Right...DUH. I slept through that one
Jon L. Veilleux
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I was typing the same information into a response but realized the error
of my ways before I
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:36:07 -0500, Mark S. House wrote:
Looking for recommendations on adding an 80 megabyte load module to the
LPA. What are the negatives. The reason we would like to do this is that
one of our application programs that use this module can be used by 1 to
10 jobs running
Tom Marchant said:
Another consideration might be how often the module needs to change.
If it needs to be updated often it might be a
hassle for you. Also, each time you update it, you take another chunk
of ECSA. You'll need procedures to delete the
old copy when it is inactive. IIRC, you
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:52:52 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L wrote:
John Chase said:
Well, in retrospect, I suppose it could use overlays.
Not in LPA.
OH GOD! I hope not!
I don't think that there are many application programmers that have even
heard of overlay programs, let alone code one and the
Dean,
I didn't forget about all of you who helped me. Thank you for the
suggestions. I opened a PMR with IBM, it appears that the unit being
passed to SMS is zeros. I am waiting for a slip from them. We did change
Do you mean nulls instead of zeros?
the freespace and the file shrunk by 15%. I
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:54:36 -0400, Dean Montevago wrote:
I didn't forget about all of you who helped me. Thank you for the
suggestions. I opened a PMR with IBM, it appears that the unit being
passed to SMS is zeros.
Not surprising. If you must check the UNIT, perhaps you want to check that
it
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:05:13 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L wrote:
If you are using Dynamic LPA you can delete and reload the module fairly
easily
You can delete the module only when you know that no one is using it.
If you are using
PLPA you are stuck without an IPL.
You can't delete the PLPA copy,
FILTLIST DASD_UNITS INCLUDE('3390','SYSDA','SYSALLDA')
FILTLIST TAPE_UNITS INCLUDE('3590*','MAGSTAR','T3590')
David Andrews wrote:
On Fri, 2007-08-17 at 13:11 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote:
If you haven't read the news yet, IBM and Sun announced a new
collaboration. From press accounts it would appear the two companies' next
action is to bring Solaris to the IBM mainframe.
The port itself is
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 00:23 +1000, Graeme Gibson wrote:
Only the application programer will be aware when
[QSAM update-in-place] has been used, there's nothing
to tell sysprogs or operators that it's in use and
absolutely no need for them to know.
Unless the sysprog (me, in one unfortunate
Amen to that Jon. The last time I played with an overlay was when I had a
large module to run in VS1. It was not a pretty picture but you did learn
the Linkage editor.
Bill
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To:
Dean,
You might consider replacing (UNIT EQ DASD_UNITS)) with
(DSORG EQ 'VS'))
A VSAM file is obviously allocated to DASD. If a user/programmer has used a
variation of REFPROD.REF.DNO.**
for a tape backup then the test will fail.
Thanks. That's a thought. But what gets me is we did the same exact
thing for another VSAM file (except we used a fully qualified name) and
it worked no problem. The only difference was the OS level.
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When something works and you change release level, that screams 'bug' to me.
Right now we're trying to find a work around for your problem which requires
NOT doing the same thing.
From: Dean Montevago [Sent: Tue 8/21/2007 11:48 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Hallo To All,
I am trying to perform an XMIT (pds member) from one partition to another and
I am partially successful. Below is my command:
XMIT NYZ380.ZAWTPWG DA('CNTL.JCL(SMSJOB1'))
What the command does it creates the member SMSJOB1 in a pds ZAWTPWG.CNTL.JCL
Does XMIT
Sounds like a bug to me also. Thanks for your help.
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Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMS Question - Urgent
When
Radoslaw,
Simply answer is yes.
For any CU, you can define whatever subset of devices you need, whether
base devices or aliases.
Just ensure that the CU definition is defined for maxiumum devices.. ie
00.256
R.S. wrote:
I need to define DASD array to MVS.
It will be escon connected, CU
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When something works and you change release level,
Tom Marchant said:
Really? Who do you think used overlays? It was SOP for application
programmers where I came from when running in MVT. Debugging isn't
particularly an issue. Of course, the Linkage Editor can't resolve an
external reference to a module
that is in a different leg.
Tom,
On 8/21/2007 12:41 PM, willie bunter wrote:
I am trying to perform an XMIT (pds member) from one partition to another and
I am partially successful. Below is my command:
XMIT NYZ380.ZAWTPWG DA('CNTL.JCL(SMSJOB1'))
What the command does it creates the member SMSJOB1 in a pds
Willie,
Where the user on the receiving system ultimately places the dataset, is up
to the user. OK, what that means is, it's a function of the RECEIVE command
to determine placement of the transmitted dataset (or member). There's
nothing you can do on the TRANSMIT command to influence that.
John,
Agreed, I've seen the same thing although It was long ago.
My point was more in trying to stop Dean from hitting his head against a wall
doing 'what worked before'. If it isn't working now, try something else.
John McKown wrote
When something works
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM and IBM-MAIN
The second batch of Linux and z/VM presentations from SHARE 109 in San Diego
are now up on the linuxvm.org web site. There were some reports of
corrupted files from the first batch. I downloaded everything, and
re-uploaded anything that didn't match
Ray !!! Just getting back from SHARE. There was a presentation on PCI at
Share, and folks are just starting to really take it seriously. I will
send you a copy of the presentation if you like. My shop is just starting
in on this, and I would be glad to compare notes with you.
[EMAIL
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:48:10 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L wrote:
Tom, you're talking about folks who were familiar with writing programs
when virtual storage was very limited. MVT has been gone for a long
time.
Agreed. There is little, if any, need for overlay structures these days. I
was
taking
John Mattson wrote:
Ray !!! Just getting back from SHARE. There was a presentation on PCI at
Share, and folks are just starting to really take it seriously. I will
send you a copy of the presentation if you like. My shop is just starting
in on this, and I would be glad to compare notes with
It will not be easy to install SMS right away, nobody else a diffrent solution?
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None of us are perfect, but we got a good chuckle when we asked a couple
questions in an ETR. This is a service we pay for, right? LOL.
The questions make no difference - just read the responses:
A1. In SDSNMACS(DSNDQW00), QW0021K2 is defined as XL1 (i.e. hex with a
length of 1 byte).
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/20/2007
at 03:06 PM, Darren Evans-Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
You know which one.
Actually, I don't, but I assume that I'll get an autoresponse if I
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/16/2007
at 11:47 AM, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
When I started, that was *the* way people got into system
programming.
Well, I was never in operations.
As for training, not all classes are created equal. I still remember
being given a stack of 7070
OK, Gerard, help me out here ... I'm not into LPSERVE myself.
These dynamically allocated datasets are going to be of what type:
- true temporary datasets (similar to DSN=TEMP1) or
- short-time permanent, cataloged datasets (DSN=LPSERVE.X.Y.Z)?
If they're true temp. datasets, then they should
In
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at 10:05 AM, Grant Ward Able [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Although I have updated my QuickPad to contain the PA1 key, none of
the actions above seem to work...Pressing the ATTN key just
takes me back to my session selection menu.
That sounds like
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 08/15/2007
at 07:17 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Thanks. That is the consensus, so is likely correct. I wasn't around
in the pre-S/370 era.
I was. You can still look[1] at the code if you want; it's on the
OS/360 turnkey system from the Hercules project.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:28 PM
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Subject: Re: LPServe dynamic allocation
It will not be easy to install SMS right away, nobody else a
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/20/2007
at 03:27 PM, john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Peter Hunkeler has suggested that I have been exhibiting too much
(and growing) impatience here,
Nothing wrong with impatience, although it helps if you have all of
your facts right before you post.
and I
That sounds like standard[1] TPX behavior.
Or, Candle SuperSession.
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Todd Burch wrote:
The value for the partition number will be stored as a hex value
so 1 byte or 8 bits will have a maximum hex value of x''
(4,294,967,295 decimal).
... The maximum hex value in 16 bits then is x''
or 18,446,744,073,709,551,615.
Ouch! And, it's even
On Aug 21, 2007, at 8:36 AM, Kelman, Tom wrote:
That's interesting. I got my present job because a recruiter saw my
resume on Monster. However, I didn't include anything in my resume
that
I would particularly consider confidential. All I included was my
name,
address, phone number, email
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 06:53 +0430, legolas wood wrote:
Is there any prediction or announcement about a release date?
Not yet. It's a work in progress.
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On 2007-08-17 08:11, Dean Montevago [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote to IBM-Main:
I have a CICS VSAM file that is reaching it's 4gb limit. I want to
create an SMS pool for it. Can I define all the constructs and
activate the new rules while the region is up and using this file ?
Will they take affect
Gerard,
Following up on my earlier post ... that kept me thinking, so I started
reading ...
The z/OS 1.7 Comm Server IP Configuration Reference, Chapter 25 Remote Print
Server (LPD) contains a description of the LPDDATA control dataset and its
parameters. In there, I can find a UNIT and a VOLUME
Hello Willie,
First, the closing apostrophe should be between the close parentheses
XMIT NYZ380.ZAWTPWG DA('CNTL.JCL(SMSJOB1)')
To your second question - XMIT will not allow you to specify a PDS(E) member
in the OUTDS operand. However, you can ALLOCATE a PDS member and specify
the
On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Veilleux, Jon L wrote:
John Chase said:
Well, in retrospect, I suppose it could use overlays.
OH GOD! I hope not!
I don't think that there are many application programmers that have
even
heard of overlay programs, let alone code one and the corresponding
(ROFL) Yup, that's one I didn't think of!
At 01:28 AM 8/22/2007, you wrote:
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 00:23 +1000, Graeme Gibson wrote:
Only the application programer will be aware when
[QSAM update-in-place] has been used, there's nothing
to tell sysprogs or operators that it's in use and
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