Re: How to concatenate in TSO/ISPF

2009-10-12 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
bububut wrote: One of them is: How to add (or remove) libraries to an existed dataset concatenation? I do not want to disturb other libraries already in the concatenation. Is there any command or utility that can do this? I suggest this for the TSO and TSO/ISPF environments: CONCAT is a REXX

CICS exit VERSION

2009-10-12 Thread R Hey
Hi, My client has a CICS XGMTEXT exit. It has: GBLC VERSION DFHSYS PRINT ON,NOGEN DFHEISTG DSECT

ISPF DDLIST COMPRESS DISP=SHR ENQ

2009-10-12 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
Hello: I posted a message a week ago on ISPF-L and received no answer; hopefully, I'll get a good one here. Here it is: If I enter HELP on the DDLIST panel, I see this: C Compress a PDS using the existing allocation. When I use DDLIST to display allocated data sets, I see most of them

Question on VVDS creation (implicltly)

2009-10-12 Thread Paul Ip
Hi all, I know VVDS can be created Implicltly when a NON-SMS VSAM or a SMS VSAM/nonVSAM is created under a 'NEW' volume. However, It seems to me that the VVDS (an ESDS itself) is not required to be cataloged (meanwhile, some of VVDS are under catalog [MCAT] since we've run a IDCAMS DEFINE

copy VSAM files

2009-10-12 Thread Umamaheshwar Iyer
Friends This should sound as simple, but .. How do I copy a VSAM KSDS dataset to another VSAM dataset with the same attribute as the 'copying from' dataset, without going thru the process of Define? An example of either a REXX code or a JCL will be of help TIA. Thanks

Re: CICS problem at DR

2009-10-12 Thread Crabtree, Anne D
OK, well... Nothing I did seemed to fix my problem so I decided on a whim to start the CICS region INITIAL and it came up fine? So, I have no idea how this all pieces together...lol Right now, I don't really care since the region is up and the users are happy. :) THANK YOU ALL for your

Re: copy VSAM files

2009-10-12 Thread Baraniecki, Ray
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Re: copy VSAM files

2009-10-12 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Umamaheshwar Iyer ui0037...@techmahindra.com wrote in message news:4ae6c9b1f53e7f4c86bc78bc282e62560160e...@sinpunex001.techmahindra. com... Friends This should sound as simple, but .. How do I copy a VSAM KSDS dataset to another VSAM dataset with the same attribute as the

Re: copy VSAM files

2009-10-12 Thread esst...@juno.com
You could begin by using the REPRO command of IDCAMS -- Original Message -- From: Umamaheshwar Iyer ui0037...@techmahindra.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: copy VSAM files Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:11:46 +0530 Friends This should sound as simple, but .. How do I

Re: Experience with NPF

2009-10-12 Thread Dana
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:06:20 EDT, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: NPF menus are built in but you have to do some initial customization to get it fired up. We got it working fine and it will probably be more than adequate for our needs. I certainly wouldn't want to maintain it if we had

Re: Question on VVDS creation (implicltly)

2009-10-12 Thread R.S.
Paul Ip pisze: Hi all, I know VVDS can be created Implicltly when a NON-SMS VSAM or a SMS VSAM/nonVSAM is created under a 'NEW' volume. However, It seems to me that the VVDS (an ESDS itself) is not required to be cataloged (meanwhile, some of VVDS are under catalog [MCAT] since we've run a

Re: copy VSAM files

2009-10-12 Thread Darth Keller
This should sound as simple, but .. How do I copy a VSAM KSDS dataset to another VSAM dataset with the same attribute as the 'copying from' dataset, without going thru the process of Define? An example of either a REXX code or a JCL will be of help //JS0040 EXEC

Re: copy VSAM files

2009-10-12 Thread esst...@juno.com
Sorry I didnt read the entire question REPRO will not do it. ARDDSSU can be used to copy (backup) the original source VSAM datasets and the Restore with the RENAMEU parameter. Friends This should sound as simple, but .. How do I copy a VSAM KSDS dataset to another VSAM dataset

Re: Question on VVDS creation (implicltly)

2009-10-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:40:42 -0500, Paul Ip wrote: I know VVDS can be created Implicltly when a NON-SMS VSAM or a SMS VSAM/nonVSAM is created under a 'NEW' volume. However, It seems to me that the VVDS (an ESDS itself) is not required to be cataloged (meanwhile, some of VVDS are under catalog

Re: U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000

2009-10-12 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:06:06 -0700, Gerhard Adam gada...@charter.net wrote: Since when does the U.S. House of Representatives mean all of Washington, D.C.? More importantly, since when is $730,000 much of a data center? From the article: But it was time for a change, with the House spending

Re: U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000

2009-10-12 Thread Doc Farmer
If Congress is getting rid of their last mainframe, this only proves the VALUE of a mainframe. Lord knows they get everything ELSE wrong up there... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: copy VSAM files

2009-10-12 Thread Darth Keller
Sorry I didn't read the entire question REPRO will not do it. Yes, in combination with JCL, IDCAMS REPRO can do it: //JS0040 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //IN1 DD DISP=(SHR,KEEP,KEEP), // DSN=SMS.SCDS01.SCDS //OUT1 DD DSN=DK85359.SCDS01.SCDS, //

Re: Question on VVDS creation (implicltly)

2009-10-12 Thread Paul Ip
Yeah, I also expect a VVDS should have been cataloged under either MCAT or UCAT. However, there is a VVDS, it cannot be shown when I input 'SYS1.VVDS' under DSLIST, but it can be found if I input 'SYS1.VVDS.Vxx' (full name) under DSLIST. Even the VVDS can be seen under DSLIST with full name

Re: How to concatenate

2009-10-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:10:03 -0400, Dave Salt wrote: Once ISPF libraries have been allocated (ISPMLIB=2C ISPPLIB etc) you can't = change what's allocated to those DDNAMEs. However=2C you can add libraries = that are searched ahead of those libraries by doing something like this: At the TSO READY

Re: Question on VVDS creation (implicltly)

2009-10-12 Thread Scott Rowe
If you enable 'Display Catalog Name' on DSLIST, it should tell you which catalog it found it in. Paul Ip paul...@boci.com.hk 10/12/2009 10:06 AM Yeah, I also expect a VVDS should have been cataloged under either MCAT or UCAT. However, there is a VVDS, it cannot be shown when I input

Re: Question on VVDS creation (implicltly)

2009-10-12 Thread Paul Ip
Thanks! OK, I can see the VVDS is now under MCAT. so I am confused why I can't see the *VSAM* Cluster Entry (just has the Data Component entry)? and I can only locate the VVDS under DSLIST with 'full name' search... Paul On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:26:45 -0400, Scott Rowe

Re: Question on VVDS creation (implicltly)

2009-10-12 Thread Scott Rowe
I'm pretty sure that the Cluster Entry is only created when the VVDS is defined, and would therefor only exist in the catalog where the VVDS was initially defined, while there will a data component entry in every catalog that contains (or ever contained) a dataset that had an entry in that

Re: How to concatenate

2009-10-12 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Yes, you can. In fact, we use a generic logon REXX that looks to see if the user has a logon exit CLIST or REXX available and run it after the standard allocations are performed. In the exit CLIST or REXX one can use the CONCAT utility mentioned earlier to add other PDS files to any DD they want

The bleak future of COBOL

2009-10-12 Thread john gilmore
The cri de coeur of Clark Morris presents a view, articulated more sympathetically than is usual, that I for one do sympathize with. Moreover, he has identified the key issue, which is that of interoperability/data transfer and thus data-type compatibility in a mixed-language environment.

Receive file size limit

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Pace
I'm trying to receive a really large file. The transmit file is 2,876 cylinders, when I try to receive the file I always abend with receive indsname('MKARLSB.BJC.SMFRAW09') INMR901I Dataset TS58260.BJC.SMF from TS58260 on BASLMO INMR906A Enter restore parameters or 'DELETE' or 'END' +

Re: Receive file size limit

2009-10-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:56:17 -0400, Mark Pace wrote: INMR906A Enter restore parameters or 'DELETE' or 'END' + space(4369,500) cylinders dsname('fred.BJC.SMFRAW03') volume(msmpe2) IEC030I B37-04,IFG0554A,MARPACE,IKJACCNT,SYS00133,B222,MSMPE2,04210010,FRED.BJC.SMFRAW03 Have you tried

Re: Receive file size limit

2009-10-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The volume I'm writing to is an empty 3390-9, so there is plenty of space. It would appear that receive will not create a dataset larger than 4369 cylinders (65535 tracks). Can someone confirm that this is a RECEIVE command limitation, or am I just doing something wrong? It's an OS limitation.

Re: Receive file size limit

2009-10-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Receive file size limit I'm trying to receive a really large file. The transmit file is 2,876

Re: How to concatenate

2009-10-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:28:23 -0400, Hardee, Charles H wrote: In fact, we use a generic logon REXX that looks to see if the user has a logon exit CLIST or REXX available and run it after the standard allocations are performed. In the exit CLIST or REXX one can use the CONCAT utility mentioned

Re: How to concatenate

2009-10-12 Thread Steve Comstock
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:28:23 -0400, Hardee, Charles H wrote: In fact, we use a generic logon REXX that looks to see if the user has a logon exit CLIST or REXX available and run it after the standard allocations are performed. In the exit CLIST or REXX one can use the

Re: Receive file size limit

2009-10-12 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Mark, What's the size of the original dataset, how many cylinders did it occupy? Or might it have come from tape? Have you tried to allocate the output file as multi-volume? e.g. space(4369,500) cylinders dsname('fred.BJC.SMFRAW03') volume(msmpe2, xx) === Failing all that, have you tried

Re: Receive file size limit

2009-10-12 Thread John Kington
Mark I'm trying to receive a really large file. The transmit file is 2,876 cylinders, when I try to receive the file I always abend with receive indsname('MKARLSB.BJC.SMFRAW09') INMR901I Dataset TS58260.BJC.SMF from TS58260 on BASLMO INMR906A Enter restore parameters or 'DELETE' or 'END' +

Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Anton Britz
'Amateur' IBM brings down Air New Zealand By Joe Fay • Get more from this author The boss of Air New Zealand has launched an astonishing attack on IBM after a catastrophic system crash crippled the airline and left passengers stranded. The massive IBM letdown could see the vendor turfed out of

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Doug Fuerst
I doubt that any manager in a position to decide about outsourcing will learn anything from this. I remain convinced that outsourcing is a bad idea if you are dedicated to providing your customers with the best service. Doug Fuerst Anton Britz wrote: 'Amateur' IBM brings down Air New

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Doug Fuerst Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ? I doubt that any manager in a position to decide

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-12 Thread Kirk Talman
Why can't Cobol use the C code generator? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 10/09/2009 04:55:20 PM: Meanwhile, IBM spends considerable effort in optimizing its C/C++ compilers. Customers with C and C++ applications have more alternatives to Big Iron.

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
I think that before we go ahead and lay blame - unlike the manager of the airline who is blaming IBM - we had best wait and get more information. Amateur IBM apparently has control over the power grid in Australia, since it was a power problem that originally caused the outage. Yes, they say

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ? I think that before we go ahead and lay blame

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Ron
Sounds like it was at an IBM facility... IBM responded by saying it had launched an independent investigation into the power outage which appeared to have been caused by a failed oil pressure sensor on a back-up generator. ALSO: Bank of New Zealand was also affected by the outage. BNZ

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/12/2009 12:59:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rjv1...@gmail.com writes: Sounds like it was at an IBM facility... IBM responded by saying it had launched an independent investigation into the power outage which appeared to have been caused by a failed oil pressure

Re: ISPF DDLIST COMPRESS DISP=SHR ENQ

2009-10-12 Thread Itschak Mugzach
As far as I know all ISPF compress operations are done using IEBCOPY, If so, IEBCOPY enques on IEWxxx and staw to protect the directory from being manipulated. It does not protect the directory from read, so if CICS or any other program that has in storage copy of the PDS directory, can be

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread P S
Notwithstanding where it was and whose fault it was or wasn't, the fact that there are no backup procedures to speak of for keeping the business running is worth noting (and for which management should be excoriated). I've seen both extremes in fast food restaurants: at a Taco Bell once, a power

Re: ISPF DDLIST COMPRESS DISP=SHR ENQ

2009-10-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
As far as I know all ISPF compress operations are done using IEBCOPY ISPF 3.4 uses SPFCOPY - non-APF. Unless it's changed in the lasr 10 year. IEBCOPY has to be APF, and compress doesn't need that. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Receive file size limit

2009-10-12 Thread Mark Pace
Thanks, Peter, and others. I did a preallocate of a 5000 cylinder dataset with a Dataclass containing the Extend attribute. Worked like a charm. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 Oct 2009 10:37:56 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main Kirk Talman wrote: Why can't Cobol use the C code generator? IBM could write a parser to generate optimal C/C++ code from COBOL but that would be a large investment and might not produce as good results as the current compiler parser

Re: ISPF DDLIST COMPRESS DISP=SHR ENQ

2009-10-12 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
Itschak Mugzach wrote: As far as I know all ISPF compress operations are done using IEBCOPY, If so, IEBCOPY enques on IEWxxx and staw to protect the directory from being manipulated. .. Are you sure IEBCOPY enques on IEWxxx ? How do you know that ? Is it written somewhere ? My

Re: ISPF DDLIST COMPRESS DISP=SHR ENQ

2009-10-12 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
Ted MacNEIL wrote: As far as I know all ISPF compress operations are done using IEBCOPY ISPF 3.4 uses SPFCOPY - non-APF. Unless it's changed in the lasr 10 year. IIRC, it was changed over 20 years ago, since TSO/E introduced its Service Routine, which is called IKJEFTSR. IEBCOPY has to be

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-12 Thread Sam Siegel
IBM needs to keep optimizing the c/c++ compiler to support *nix/windows server consolidation onto zLinux. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.cawrote: On 12 Oct 2009 10:37:56 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main Kirk Talman wrote: Why can't Cobol use the C code

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic

2009-10-12 Thread Tom Ross
instructions? BUT the resulting reduction in customer CPU utilization would cannibalize the additional hardware sales that would have been made when customer work volume increases, making the hardware side of the house *very* unhappy... Reducing customer CPU utilization likely loses IBM more

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-12 Thread Sam Siegel
I think they are tightly related. Looking at the compiler suite from the outside it would seem that parsing, options, run-time-libraries, STL support, Inter-procedures analysis, etc. would be very common across platforms because much of this is standards based. The code generation would be

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-12 Thread Sam Siegel
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/xlcpp/aix/ http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/xlcpp/aix/From IBM's website: C and C++ compilers, available for many IBM platforms, share a common code base that simplifies porting applications between platforms. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Sam

Re: U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000

2009-10-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip--- If Congress is getting rid of their last mainframe, this only proves the VALUE of a mainframe. Lord knows they get everything ELSE wrong up there... ---unsnip--- Have you EVER heard of

Re: ISPF DDLIST COMPRESS DISP=SHR ENQ

2009-10-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Compress doesn't need IEBCOPY to be authorised ? Are you sure ? Not 100% But, I've compressed without it. Again, SPFCOPY compresses without APF. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: ISPF DDLIST COMPRESS DISP=SHR ENQ

2009-10-12 Thread Scott Rowe
IIRC, SPFCOPY got control un-authorized, but it made itself authorized prior to calling IEBCOPY, but that was very long ago. Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca 10/12/2009 3:35 PM Compress doesn't need IEBCOPY to be authorised ? Are you sure ? Not 100% But, I've compressed without it. Again,

Re: Experience with NPF

2009-10-12 Thread Dana
Has anyone gotten NPF to produce banner pages? The JES2 printer has SEP=YES set but it's unclear if that really takes affect with FSS printers. Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Question on VVDS creation (implicltly)

2009-10-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip Yeah, I also expect a VVDS should have been cataloged under either MCAT or UCAT. However, there is a VVDS, it cannot be shown when I input 'SYS1.VVDS' under DSLIST, but it can be found if I input 'SYS1.VVDS.Vxx'

Re: How to concatenate

2009-10-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip- At the TSO READY prompt, can I not FREE and reallocate? --unsnip-- Sure, if you get all the datasets in the correct order. :-) I prefer to

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip-: I think that before we go ahead and lay blame - unlike the manager of the airline who is blaming IBM - we had best wait and get more information. Amateur IBM apparently has control over the power grid in Australia, since

Re: U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000

2009-10-12 Thread P S
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: SNIP THEM you might get some rational, realistic thinkers. :-) Or ones who can write an English sentence, even. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 10/12/2009 12:59:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, rjv1...@gmail.com writes: Sounds like it was at an IBM facility... IBM responded by saying it had launched an independent investigation into the power outage which appeared to have been caused by a

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip The Register is usually anti-everything. It's not called Vulture Central for nothing. I enjoy it, but I don't take it too seriously for quality reporting. OK, OK, I like the BOFH stories grin.

Re: Experience with NPF

2009-10-12 Thread Gary DiPillo
Yes, using the Input Exit and the Block Letter routine. Has anyone gotten NPF to produce banner pages? The JES2 printer has SEP=YES set but it's unclear if that really takes affect with FSS printers. Dana -- For

Re: U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000

2009-10-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of P S Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Rick

Re: ISPF DDLIST COMPRESS DISP=SHR ENQ

2009-10-12 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Not sure, but LMCOMP is also an option to compress a PDS. But according to the manual it call IEBCOPY. ITschak On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: IIRC, SPFCOPY got control un-authorized, but it made itself authorized prior to calling IEBCOPY, but that was

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread P S
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: Be interesting to see the back and forth memos about DR and  failover on their Linux  Mainframes. I can't make Linux make sense in context here. Are you implying that the fact that this was Linux made it worse?

Re: U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000

2009-10-12 Thread P S
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:14 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of P S Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: U.S. house

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/12/2009 3:28:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, zosw...@gmail.com writes: can't make Linux make sense in context here. Are you implying that the fact that this was Linux made it worse? Without knowing the topology and configuration it'd be hard to say. Just quoting the

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

Re: Multiple jobs/same name

2009-10-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4aca49e5.2070...@ync.net, on 10/05/2009 at 02:32 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net said: But you still need to prevent testers from submitting jobs with a production USERID. We used a TSO exit to remove USER/PASSWORD parms from the JOB statement. Got a better idea? Sure; don't have

Re: multiple jobs / same name

2009-10-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%200910021749338415.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 10/02/2009 at 05:49 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: The Old Timers will shout, Why don't you speak for yourself, John? This old timer says that it was a convention that never made sense and should have been buried long since.

Re: Multiple jobs/same name

2009-10-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%200910050005416948.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 10/05/2009 at 12:05 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Until someone shows me documentation or an example to the contrary, I'll believe that OWNER is a synonym for userid. It is. But RACF also uses GROUP to control access. --

Re: Multiple jobs/same name

2009-10-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 565251895-1254708894-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-20340310...@bda488.bisx.prod.on.blackberry, on 10/05/2009 at 02:14 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said: How can the programmer control these independently? USER= PASSWORD= are valid JOB CARD parms. K3wl, but it has nothing

Re: Multiple jobs/same name

2009-10-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 575253278-1254703734-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-3855232...@bda488.bisx.prod.on.blackberry, on 10/05/2009 at 12:48 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said: Why OWNER? Because it's USERID. Userid is the common control for production (independent of job-name). They're

Re: multiple jobs / same name

2009-10-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 000d01ca43b2$7ddc9c10$7995d4...@net, on 10/02/2009 at 03:48 PM, Ulrich Krueger u...@pacbell.net said: The tradition of using your TSO userid for batch job names dates back to the invention of TSO and has been a default (or should I say, de-facto standard) ever since then. If you wanted

Re: How to concatenate

2009-10-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9c3df50c0910111923p1e03ae26j8c94e76d68048...@mail.gmail.com, on 10/12/2009 at 10:23 AM, bububut bubu...@gmail.com said: So I just want to add a data set into the ISPPLIB concatenation while giving no influence on any other data sets already there. If the logon procedure isn't written to

Re: How to concatenate

2009-10-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In blu149-w51cd54fd1819de71e4743fa1...@phx.gbl, on 10/11/2009 at 11:10 PM, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com said: Once ISPF libraries have been allocated (ISPMLIB, ISPPLIB etc) you can't change what's allocated to those DDNAMEs. You can if you first exit ISPF. However, LIBDEF is usually the

Re: multiple jobs / same name

2009-10-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005bde01...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 10/02/2009 at 01:54 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: I'm not an expert on this. But, as I understand it, HASP was an add on to OS/MVT My recollection is that it supported MFT before it supported MVT.

Re: Job name standards (Was: multiple jobs / same name)

2009-10-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%200910101341489068.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 10/10/2009 at 01:41 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: The OUTPUT JCL statement, Then you're talking about a length restriction of OUTPUT, not of SJF. The vendor appears to be IBM, Not even close; you gave the right answer to a

Re: U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000

2009-10-12 Thread Bobbie Jo
is this one of those great savings from someplace that hadn't upgraded their mainframe system in 20 years? and I love this part: The last mainframe was an IBM model in place since 1997 1997, let's see, so we're talking either the 9021 family or the early generation cmos. yea, okay, I just

Re: COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions?

2009-10-12 Thread Rich Smrcina
A COBOL compiler that runs on Linux (including Linux for System z) does produce intermediate C code, before running it through GCC. It is not technically considered a GCC based COBOL, though. Take a look at OpenCOBOL, http://www.opencobol.org. There was some work done some years ago on GCC

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Graeme Gibson
Well, I agree completely with PS. I felt that there was just a hint of look the other way while I cover my arse in the tone of the complaint by the Air NZ chief. Somewhere in there he knows that ultimately he, and his board, are responsible for keeping their airline running.. and pointing

Re: U.S. house decommissions its last mainframe, saves $730,000

2009-10-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 Oct 2009 12:35:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: -snip--- If Congress is getting rid of their last mainframe, this only proves the VALUE of a mainframe. Lord knows they get everything ELSE wrong up there...

Re: Question on VVDS creation (implicltly)

2009-10-12 Thread Paul Ip
Thanks! According to the reply from you and Scott, I could locate the *VSAM* entry (or multiple entries as the VVDS may under 1 UCAT and/or MCAT) under DSLIST via 'S*.VVDS.Vxx' .but I still found one of the VVDS (I'm not sure if it is a normal case or not, anyway the datasets under

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 Oct 2009 17:10:22 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Well, I agree completely with PS. I felt that there was just a hint of look the other way while I cover my arse in the tone of the complaint by the Air NZ chief. Somewhere in there he knows that ultimately he, and his board,

Re: Outsourcing your Computer Center to IBM ?

2009-10-12 Thread P S
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: If the crew schedules and maintenance information was on that system, they couldn't move until it was back up (hours of service and other interesting regulatory issues).  If the contract was written properly, IBM

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2009-10-12 Thread Klaus Klein
I am out of the office until 18.10.2009. Note: This is an automated response to your message Re: [IBM-MAIN] COBOL is an obvious cash cow to be milked to death was Re: Does Ent. COBOL 4.1 generate 64-bit binary arithmetic instructions? sent on 13/10/09 1:42:30. This is the only notification

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2009-10-12 Thread Steven Liston
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Re: CICS exit VERSION

2009-10-12 Thread R Hey
Found it in SDFHMAC(DFHSYS) : ... VERSION SETC '0640' CICS ELEMENT LEVEL ... Cheers, Rez -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the