Bluezone FTP lets you copy the entire PDS to a directory on your PC and change
from EBCDIC to ASCII. I have been using it for years.
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That's a very good point. Normally IBM is much better than this when it comes
to products that you have no choice about using.
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The problem with reporting these types of issues is that they appear to be
completely ignored. In my case, I have been told several times that since i
have a workaround, there is no reason to open an issue. So now I just don't
even bother to report them. I just make a note for the next time.
z/OSMF is not in it's infancy, it's been around for several years now, it's new
to force z/OS installs with it. I have now installed my 22nd z/OS install with
z/OSMF, (hundreds with Serverpak) and I can tell you that It has gone
increasingly downhill over especially the past year or so. The
I don't think they sold it to anyone, I believe it's just been rendered
obsolete. A lot of people who used it were using it for mostly the automation
capability part(s) so it conflicted with the "other" (much more expensive)
automation product they sell.
When they first announced it, we
No it doesn't, you have to use the new Java.
When I installed 3.1 the first time, I found that they did not automatically
create several of the directories. I ended up just going through the log and
fixing things one at a time. Some of the errors were permission related. I
ended up doing
When you say the HMC also failed, can you describe what happened. Did any
messages show up at all, did you define the HMC in your console parms? Did you
maybe forget to just V CN(*),act?
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This is a shamless plug, but you can do it "automagically" with the automation
package, such that when the job ends the output of the job (whatever datasets
of it you want) will go to whoever you want via email or SMS text message. No
JCL or SMF exits needed.
You can send any part of a task
No, it won't help you.
You need to look at why your task failed int he first place. There may be
messages, or a abend, but you might have just received some off the wall error
like "memory failure"/
Do you see anything in the job log of the job that failed or in syslog?
Brian
The job that was running in that init had a memory related error, 878-10 or
worse, and the job and the initiator were both restarted. You will get most of
the information you need by looking at the job that was running. It's even
possible that it was a previous job that was running in that
HBDELETE DataSetName ALL
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One of my small clients just purchased a z14-zr1. I am currently moving them
from their z13s to that box. If you have two crypto cards and a couple extra
Ficon that you would like to sell at a reasonable price, I'm sure they would
love to obtain them.
They are a small county site with not a
I think all you really need to do is change it from scratch to master in the
ISMF tape option under ISPF/PDF. That will tell the 7700 that it's not a
scratch tape.
That will change it in the library. You will then need to bypass your tape
system (normally that's done with the special
I didn't realize you were even old enough to retire. :)
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You should stop all tape processing, (RMM or CA-1, or whatever you have),
because while the VOLCAT is not available no changes will work correctly.
Actually IBM says:
Quiesce tape library management with console command V
SMS,LIBRARY(libname),ALL,OFFLINE for each library sharing the volume
I have a 42 inch curved. The curved screen is very clear and everything is the
same size all the way from left to right. Previously I had a 42 in flat screen
(which I gave to my kid who loves it), but the problem I had was that as I age,
my eyesight isn't able to refocus as quickly so I had
Is the problem that they cannot be encrypted or that they cannot be executed
when in encrypted format?
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I don't think the OP is being misleading or anything, he is probably really
perplexed and doesn't know how to respond to you guys who obviously have way
more experience than the OP. He may not even know how to paste the data from
the console to his entry here, or knows and is simply
You're right, I made the changes to make it work and it does, but we get a
violation for product X8 (Panvalet TSO), which I believe is bogus. I'll call
Broadcom to make sure we didn't violate anything, but I think that the modules
necessary for Panvalet TSO are different than these and it is
When they bought the machine they were moving from a z/800 and were told by IBM
that they didn't "need" the specialty processor. In any case, it is what it
is. Trying to get zIIP dollars from a site that doesn't have one, especially
when their product doesn't support a zIIP would be kind of
This site has a little single CPU z13s (88Mip, 10MSU), with not zIIP
processors.
There seems to be no reason for the increase that I can see, beyond just plain
old greed.
I also don't think people (vendors) should assume that it's a mainframe so the
site can throw money around and spend
Currently they are using File-Aid to provide the interface, but compuware was
acquired by BMC and they have decided that they want over $20K (close to 30)
per year for just file-aid. That's like twice the price we previously paid for
all three products File-aid, abend-aid and Xpeditor the
Does anyone have an inexpensive (i.e. free) working ISPF interface to Panvalet.
There is one on the CBT Tape that doesn't support any recent versions of
Panvalet and it abends because of Panvalet changing to PS datasets from DA, and
also the format of the data being sent back from the PAN#
The only thing I would add is that you should never assume that the cancel will
happen "automagically", you need to remain in control if it at all times, and
it should be very easy to see the status of your ECBs and take the necessary
actions. I don't think it's a good idea to assume that z/OS
There are several steps,
First you need to (in vtam via V NET,INACT,ID=) inactivate any cross domain and
CDRSC connections between that LPAR and everyone else, then you need to (in
JES) using the TSOCKET(name) command change it to connect=no. From that point
on, the physical connections just
Yes,
I have 4 smaller clients that use cloud tape connector who store the second
copy of migrated datasets to the cloud, as well as some DR related items.
Also, I have their DS8K DASD conduct backups of the full DASD volumes directly
to the cloud. The neat part of doing that directly is
They have been using panvalet for over 40 years, they have zero plans to
replace it, it's just File-Aid that is the issue, (costwise)
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It was the PAM interface that I was worried about. I saw that File-Manager let
you access panvalet for copybooks, but didn't see where it let you just open
the panvalet dataset like a PDS and browse the members etc. I have since found
that the older File-manager manuals had the information
CA was bought byBroadcom, compuware went to BMC. But you are correct, Both of
these vendors are using the same pricing practices of the company that they
acquired.
Knowing that IBM file manager can read Panvalet directly is the solution, it's
about 10% of the cost of File-Aid.
Brian
Hi,
Does IBM file Manager let you access (i.e. browse) Panvalet datasets like the
old Compuware File-aid product? One of our clients is getting a huge bill from
BMC (they bought Compuware), and they are thinking about replacing File-Aid
with IBM File Manager. One of the things they use
In fact, it works VERY well. I don't mind the dos boxes opening and closing,
they are REALLY fast and if there wern't so many of them you probably would not
notice that anything happened.
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Possibly what they want to do is be able to create or change the symbolic after
the job has started. Isn't there a program interface to generating symbols?
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I just tried on three z/OS 2.5 systems and four 2.4 systems and it seems to be
working correctly. It only seems to say task busy when it should, i.e I have
terminated the task but it's not completely down yet.
Also our SyzEMAIL/z task allows me to change from accepting modifies to not
I figured out my problem with getting Tom's process to work. My folders are
all set as ReadOnly because OneDrive was running. I ended Onedrive and while
all the folders still show as readonly, they aren't really any more and the
process ran fine, after which I turned OneDrive on again.
I
I get:
If you see a lot of DOS windows quickly opening and closing, that's normal.
Reading file 1.READ_ME_FIRST_zOS_3.1_TOC.htm
Creating a modified version of the HTML index - see file index.html
Creating directories and shortcuts for each manual group and each pdf file -
please wait...
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Tom's system allowed me to use the files without a browser.
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Tom,
Do you still have the PC script that builds the nice directory with the manual
names?
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There are two spaces that need to be there to make this work the GSKSRVR and
CTWTR. You probably didn't get CTWTR started, (that's the part that actually
writes the data). Make sure you have the JCL for both in proclib. (and the
RACF stuff for them).
The sequence is:
s GSKSRVR
TRACE
No IPL is necessary to install or remove CA-1.
The SVC is dynamically added (or should have been since several version ago if
it wasn't), and, unless you intend to reuse it for RMM or something else right
now, dynamically removing it (which is what you are doing already) is pretty
much all you
This might sound odd, but since RMM has been around a VERY long time, your
chances of running into something that can't be fixed within RMM are pretty low
if not non-existent. You would most likely be better off just fixing the
problem and staying with RMM.
That's not to say that you shouldn't
You're close. You need to run tmsinit to disable CA-1 and also there are a
couple health checks that you need to disable. There is a section in the CA-1
manual on deactivating CA-1 right after the section on activating it, and in
fact I just did this two weeks ago at a site I manage that
Yes, All of my sites share the same racf cert between their systems. Self
signed can be shared exactly the same way.
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The last 9.4 upgrade I did, I ended up transferring it to my desktop, and then
from there to a ZFS on z/OS. The problem then was that the direct to z/OS
method was broken on the SAS end and I would imagine that they probably fixed
it in the past 5 months since that time, but it wasn't a real
I believe you can still order CBIPO, but z/OSMF does (unfortunately) seem to be
the way IBM wants everyone to go. I personally disagree with z/OSMF for many
reasons (most of them due to overhead and capability restrictions), but mine
seems to be a waste of breath. :)
Any way ZOWE is open
Personal attacks are really not warranted. I think we can discuss our systems
programming beliefs without attacking someone.
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Equating college and systems programming is not really logical. I'm not aware
of any colleges that "teach" how to be a systems programmer. I think some may
have tried, but I doubt it would be a big draw.
I have a PhD, but I didn't learn to write assembler in college, at least not
any that
I write more lines of assembler per month now than I used to write in a year 10
to 15 years ago. I can't even think of an exit that I have not written code
for at least a dozen times. I've written more interfaces for Java and C++ to
"get" things from z/OS in the past 5 years than I really
I think even the ones that abuse the list the most still provide assistance
from time to time that is very useful. I completely understand that oftentimes
they want the person to RTFM, which makes a lot of sense because you also don't
want the list to become a primary school. The "new guys"
People will join the list, people will leave the list. Some of them will let
the list know why they left (as in this case) and some of them will either just
stop participating or leave without any word at all. It's sad to hear that
people are leaving the list for any reason, but to leave
4 our our clients are running z13s's and they all have received the
notification that it's EOS as of 12/31/2024
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Some people say Syz-R-gy. Actually mostly people from the East coast do that.
On the west cost they typically call us "SYN-R-GY'. Once they hear me say it a
couple times, they tend to at least get a little closer.
We used to have a little pronunciation area on our cards just after the big
I hear a bunch of odd ways people pronounce our company name "Syzygy", a lot of
them put an "R" in there at the middle and some have it start with a "Z", and
some get more than 3 syllables out of it. It's always a lot of fun (when your
really bored) to listen to people mangle the company name.
One of the ways we test our Syzygy automation products is to simply type the
message on the console as if it was a regular command or the entire message we
want to test (we also have a process to do this internally from our product,
but I'm assuming that the OP isn't a customer so doesn't have
I believe that the OP only wants to suppress the message from the console, not
the syslog, so an MPF exit is the best choice for this. You can write one, or
use automation products like netview (or our Syzygy Automation suite
(www.SyzygyInc.com) which is much less expensive), and you can elect
Sorry in advance for the blatant plug. You can do this automatically with our
Syzygy Automation software. It can be built in to the job itself as a step
with SyzCMD/z, or it can be automatically generated at the end of the job with
SyzMPF/z. Both of them would use SyzEmail/z to actually send
so you can use authsmtp.com to send directly from CSSMTP?
When you send the email, does it come from where you say it should or do you
have to use a special email that they give you?
That would be great. I assume they have an smtp server that you set up in the
targetname field. Do you know
Hi,
Peters directions for setting up the trace were very simple and easy to follow.
It was discovered that I was missing a CA cert that was not called out by the
host site. (which he sent me). Now I'm at a stopping place because the
webhost site is requiring authentication on each email (as
This is what I get from your command:
racdcert id(CSSMTP) listr(CSSMTPRing)
Digital ring information for user CSSMTP:
Ring:
>CSSMTPRing<
I get
BPXF024I (TCPIP) Jul 30 01:12:45 TTLS[16777256]: 18:12:45 TCPIP 639
EZD1286I TTLS Error GRPID: 0007 ENVID: 0009 CONNID: 009B
LOCAL: 192.168.1.66..1122 REMOTE: 99.198.97.250..587 JOBNAME: CSSMTP
USERID: CSSMTP RULE: CSSMTP RC:8 Initial Handshake 00
00
Hi,
Has anyone got working directions for setting up AT-TLS with the CSSMTP server.
I found the IBM manual Steps for using Transport Layer Security for CSSMTP,
and went through all of the steps, but I still get stuck when I change
secure=Yes in CSSMTP on a RC=8 (initial handshake) error with
Mine is a Phillips 49" with the 32:9 aspect. The reason I picked Phillips is
they have a 4 year advance replacement warranty. If anything happens (even
stuck or bad pixels) for 4 years, they send me one first, and then I send this
one back. I had a 32" one that I lost a pixel on and they
All RSU's are not created equal. The quarterly ones (i.e. 2303 2306 2309
2312), are tested by IBM differently and tend to be "easier" to install.
There is NEVER a good reason to skip maintenance for a long period of time.
Only doing maintenance when you install a new copy of the OS is a
Everything in a wait is not "eligible" to run. That's pretty much the
definition of wait. :)
Brian
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I'm pretty sure that each TCP of a task can run on a separate CPU.
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Bummer,
However, this is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. It's better to
know, than to guess (or hope). Do you know what the z14+ functions might be?
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So is IBM definitely dropping support for the z13s BEFORE z/OS 3.1 is
officially out? If not, then it should be supported by z/OS 3.1, as well as
products like z/OSMF (which are required in order to install z/OS) should be
able to be run on the z13s, isn't that correct?
Obviously the 4341 and
I think you are missing the point, why sell something and then before you
sunset that box, make it so that you can't upgrade the software? That's
completely against IBM's original method of operation.
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I wonder why IBM didn't build z/OSMF to run on a PC and just let it communicate
to z/OS? That would have been pretty cool.
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I manage 3 sites that each have a z13s with no specialty processors, they were
deemed unnecessary at the time of the purchase, and at the time IBM didn't
disclose that shortly afterwards they would be shifting to z/OSMF which all but
locks them out of installing the next release.
Possibly
While my advice is not to do it at all, that doesn't meant hat it isn't
possible without a plex, just that it's really (really) not a good idea. I
have been at sites that were okay with the exposure, and if you are really,
really careful;, you will still occasionally have issues, but for the
The little single CPU processors don't have the boost feature.
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You don't even need to ask IBM any more, the process is published.
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what else would you expect to see in the FICON CTC reference guide :)
You need to look at the technical guide for the specific hardware box that you
want to implement on. I think that starting with the z13 that they allowed.
There may have been some other methods previous to the z13, but this
The last one I see updated when you follow the link to the actual files is the
2.4 and the z15 workflows.
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According to the manual, you can configure them to be connected apparently
without wires. I believe it does the route internally, but I can't really tell
from the manual. There is probably a better manual because I seem to be seeing
just the overview, bur it does appear to not need any
After a couple years of use, I feel I'm pretty safe saying that, to me, z/OSMF
appears to be a poorly designed and very badly programmed product. Most
vendors would have ditched the product and stopped promoting it by now, but IBM
probably has grand "plans" that won't really come into fruition
Yes, from the z13 up you are supposed to be able to create the connections. I
have not tried it, but it seems to be outlined int he manuals.
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There really is no "safe" way to share DASD without some sort of PLEX, either a
full sysplex (with the CF's) or a baisc (baby) sysplex with Ficon adapters as
CTC's.
Otherwise, Catalog sharing is problematic and PDS/e sharing is not possible,
and actually neither is standard PDS sharing of
It worked!!!
Thank you very much. I did need to make my console message buffer a lot
bigger, but that was my short sightedness in only allocating 200 bytes in my
original code.
Thank you very much.
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Thank you very much, I'll give that a shot.
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First off you are missing OA61532, that's from 2021 and is for the CEEPIPI
error.
Next, secureport was removed and replaced by the ATTLS stuff that was developed
quite a while back. IBM announced it was being removed back in 2020. IN this
case, you could make it work anyway, but hte best
Hi,
I'm playing with the MCSOPER and MCSOPMSG macros and no matter what I do, I
can't seem to get MLWTO messages to be seen by the interface. Am I missing
something or does MCS not see the MLWTO messages at all?
All I seem to get is the first message of the MLWTO with no indication telling
I don't think any were removed yet, but the older SSL stuff was moved to TLS.
I think SSL is still technically supported though.
What is the exact circumstances of the failure and/or what messages are being
generated at IP startup and/or when they try to connect?
I'm sure there is probably a
I do a lot of upgrades for many sites and it's pretty rare that I replace /etc
or /var. I would never do it causally and It does happen VERY occasionally,
but normally you can tell in the apply jobs (for maintenace updates) what has
changed and running DIFF is always a good idea, but I really
Personally I think z/OSMF is a big step in the wrong direction for IBM,
especially since they made it a the only choice. Before them it was also
pretty much just a single choice, but you had a lot of flexibility that you no
longer have with the newer method. There appears to be no good reason
/etc/security and /iked.conf are both part of Internet Key Exchange
Daemon(IKED), which was changed in z/OS 2.2, and 2.3, I don't think there were
changes in 2.4 or 2.5
Even though it's int he etc directory, you probably should not delete it.
Unless you are sure you won't need IKED.
Brian
That's exactly what we suggest to our Syzygy Automation Suite product sites.
They start automation SUB=MSTR, and then set a script entry that starts it up
again and ends the one that it's currently executing under when JES is
successfully up and executing. I don't see any reason why Netview
Just so you know, it's not SYSPLEX that you need, it's GRS and you have have
that with just a couple FICON ports.
I have been doing it at several sites now that really don't need CF's (and some
who can't afford them) and it works very well, no problems at all.
Brian
There is a RSU available every month, (best to be done quarterly). 2.5 came
out over a year ago, and is about to be replaced with 3.1.
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That's the main reason they want you to do these individually, they are really
big.
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No the problem is that you can't install these particular PTFs with everything
else, they have to be performed separately via an Apply the PTF by itself with
NO Groupextend and then Apply the
remaining PTF's needed from the original Apply.
Like:
APPLY S(UI76945)
BYPASS(HOLDSYSTEM)
If IBM remains true to form, there will probably be a smaller z16 with a suffix
that denotes that it's less powerful, then the follow process on for the z16
would be introduced a year or two after that.
It seems fairly consistent that a processor is introduced, then a slightly less
version of
Yes,
Many products, SAS, several Broadcom, ASG (now Rocket) and several others now
send a file or files that they want loaded into a zfs. Normally they ship it
in PAX format so that you can unpax it, but sometimes it's in other formats as
well.
I don't see any issues with creating the zfs
I never really thought about it. I use the ISPF panels (for racf and smp/e) a
lot, and I know pretty much all of the commands to do it otherwise. Actually,
I think I built my SMPe jobs originally from the panels. :)
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I think that's a pretty invalid point. I don't see anyone questioning how to
write an exit or install a new system, or use SMPe, so why would they question
my use of anything I need in order to perform my job efficiently?
Maybe it's just that they all assume I must know what I'm doing. If
The USB is just for emergencies, I can download from my phone just as well, and
from my NAS at home if necessary. It seems odd to me to lock down a systems
programmer from getting information that may save the site, but maybe it's just
me. I can honestly say that no one has ever told me I
I carry everything around on a USB drive. All JCL, manuals and source code and
even load libraries that I might ever need. Drives are very cheap and can hold
much more data than I ever would need. I rarely go anywhere without it
because, well, it's attached to my keys.
Brian
I think you guys are mixing up being productive after the first day with being
able to take everything over and run the site by yourself. And remember this
isn't a test, it's just asking for our personal opinions of our personal
experience. There are all types an levels of systems
I completely agree with one day. You should be productive by then, as for
learning all of the sites naming conventions, procedures and standards, you
would pick them up as you go. I have found that by the end of the first week,
I typically know more about how things are "supposed" to be
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